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8:00 PM
I think modern-warefare2 is better then mw2
where is the exception and is the rule
@badp What's the difference, and what's wrong with ?
maybe cod-modern-warefare2?
@Wipqozn Either way you should have a space between "warfare" and "2"
@Mana Keeping the radix consistent makes sense for autocompletion, search, etc.
8:00 PM
oops, thanks for catching that.
Perhaps I should make a meta
although, sigh, if I had to choose between and I'd pick the latter
@FallenAngelEyes So, ?
hmm, but if that's why, wouldn't a synonym make sense?
thanks Jeff :/
@Manaಠдಠ we can obviously make synonyms, but we have to pick one tag that 'rules' the others
The 25 character limit for tags sucks for our site
@GraceNote >_>
8:02 PM
I'm making a meta, it would appear we need a formal meta discussion on this.
@Wipqozn Specific case, I'm hoping?
@GraceNote modern warefare 2 in this case. I'm re-tagging questions.
Don't mass retag manually. We have a button to do that without trashing the homepage
@Wipqozn warfare, not warefare
and it creates a synonym in the process
all in one swift move.
8:04 PM
sorry, I'm normally not a pedant but that was bugging me
@badp I'm deleting tags
Oh, nvm. Burninate away.
I'm going through and deleting genre tags when the game is also listed
However I have come across a sizable number of call-of-duty and modern-warfare-2 questions
For the case of call of duty, what should we do?
@Wipqozn Answer?
I'll make a meta with regards to this problem in general, but for right now
@ArdaXi you youngsters
8:08 PM
Got all geared up to hop in for double xp and the servers are going down for an hour.
...Why did you start that?
@FallenAngelEyes Maintenance I'm guessing from the limited context.
@ArdaXi this
I'm deleting tags
how do you make a tag again? in chat, question, et cetera
I'm going to copy this somewhere, since I always forget
I'm putting it in my profile, that way I can always find it :)
@Grace New Recettear question~
8:11 PM
Heh, still got it.
Also I typoed my last message, I meant "Why did you star that?" >_>
@FallenAngelEyes It works well going down the list.
See? "Dammit! The 25 character limit sucks." "How about a little TF2?"
@Wipqozn "Hi, I'm Wipqonz, and [tag:{tag goes here}]"
@KevinY @FallenAngelEyes already posted it, but thanks :)
8:14 PM
Q: Why was identify-this-game question closed?

KatieKThis question was closed as not constructive. It's about identifying which game will be played at an upcoming competition, based on some teaser information and similar previous competitions. Why was it closed? Could someone please explain why this was not constructive? While I probably won'...

@Wipqozn Oh I know, I was just saying that's what your profile was going to look like.
@KevinY doesn't bother me
but thanks for pointing it out
@Manaಠдಠ Answered
@Grace Thanks!!
Well, guess I'll go fishing during downtime >_>
8:18 PM
@FallenAngelEyes NO!
wording suggestion
> How should we tag questions about a game which is part of a series?
Put the joint... er... fishing pole down.
Does anyone have a suggestion on how to improve my above wording?
For the meta.
@Powerlord Hardly. Clearly it means I want to play Bioshock.
Q: Techniques for Playing Wrench Tennis Effectively?

GnomeSlice ツSo, I noticed that in the Medical Pavilion stage of Bioshock, there is one hallway you can enter that has a quaint little machine in it. If you hit a button at the other end of the hallway, this machine starts shooting out tennis balls. There are various trophies lined up along the wall, and v...

@GnomeSliceツ can you give me your opinion on this?
8:20 PM
@Wipqozn "How should we tag games in a series?"
@Wipqozn That's a youtube link. No. Bad.
@GnomeSliceツ was worth a shot
@Powerlord I can't... must... catch... more... Pufferfish...
Also, what the heck is steamreader.org and where do they get feeds of our questions?
@Manaಠдಠ Actually, yes
I thought of that, but disliked it,but we are creating a tag for the game
8:21 PM
@GnomeSliceツ api, data dump...
so I do like it
surely you're a hero @mana
@FallenAngelEyes Baaahaahaha, Pufferfish. Ooh, always a chore
@ThomasMcDonald sandwiches...
@Wipqozn or a bro.
@Wipqozn assuming...control....
8:22 PM
A: "Sl*t" term for males

GnomeSliceSince no one else has said it, I'm going to go ahead and propose hero, or maybe bro.

slowly exerts growing influence
@Manaಠдಠ We already have that question, do we not?
@GraceNote I need more of those and Snakeheads for the Paralysis Crystal :(
@Grace Probably. To be honest I'm more inclined towards a title like "Unifying how we tag games in a series" or "Reconsidering how we tag games in a series"
Q: How do I chain together kills and why should I care?

Mana ಠдಠIn Recettear, I'm slightly confused about how building up a "chain" of monster kills works. At first I thought it was determined by the amount of time I take in between each kill, but this doesn't seem to actually matter. It doesn't seem to be based on whether or not I take damage, either. How do...

Q: What strategies are critical to winning a Tetris DS tournament?

KatieKIn addition to basic Tetris play, what strategies are critical to winning Tetris DS in tournament play (items on, best 2 out of three)?

Q: I can't make half door in Minecraft

WarfaceHow can we have the half wooden door in MC ? I've tried with the data value ID and nothing's working? Could Notch removed it from the game ?

8:23 PM
@FallenAngelEyes I know. Oh, I know aaaall about Pufferfish fishing
@Manaಠдಠ yeah, that seems like a good idea
I'll shift the structure of my question somewhat as well
@Manaಠдಠ Hm. I'll have to see the question body to see how this goes, then.
inb4 @GraceNote has become crazy with power and bans me for disliking my wording
bans me....FOREVER
@Grace since the main point behind this meta post is the fact that we were having a lot of discussion earlier about whether or not it should be seriesname-abbreviatedsequelname or abbreviatedseriesname-sequelname
Among other topics of interest, such as creating synonyms for one or the other
8:25 PM
Didn't we have a general question about that, if not three?
@Grace Yeah...I'm going to go searching.
And somewhat settled on "Guh, grudgingly case-by-case", which is why I asked if Wipqozn's approaching question was a specific case?
protip: Javascript does not like it when you say you're defining a function and you then proceed to create a hash.
Q: How to tag: use acronyms or not?

marco.ragognaI would like to ask the general approach we have to follow in tagging game names. This question already shown the problem: wow or world-of-warcraft. But there any many other examples: hl2 or half-life-2 tf2 or team-fortress-2 mw2 or modern-warfare-2 etc. Maybe we can use google to look whi...

Q: Tag question: wow or world-of-warcraft

antony.trupeWhich is better? wow or world-of-warcraft?

Q: Tag merge request: nfs-hot-pursuit and need-for-speed-hp

Anna LearI don't have the rep needed to suggest synonyms, but nfs-hot-pursuit (9 questions) and need-for-speed-hp (6 questions) refer to the same game and I think they should be merged. It seems like most NFS games are tagged as need-for-speed-[game], so I vote for keeping need-for-speed-hp as the master ...

Q: How to tag the Need for Speed games?

badpWe currently have: nfsmw ×6 need-for-speed-world ×3 need-for-speed-hp ×2 need-for-speed-mw ×2 I think this makes it self evident that we should rather tag our games: nfs-most-wanted nfs-world nfs-hot-pursuit Thoughts?

Q: How should we tag Prince of Persia?

Matthew ReadThe warrior-within tag was just created, and used in conjunction with the prince-of-persia tag. While the Warrior Within "subtitle" is unique to my knowledge, and fairly well-known, do we have a general rule for this? Obviously prince-of-persia-warrior-within is too long, but what about pop-war...

too.... much... meta....
8:29 PM
Yeah, we've discussed this a lot :P
Q: Obese Icon on Meta

GnomeSlice ツI've noticed that the inbox notification icon on Meta seems to have put on a little weight. Depicted below are the icons of both sites, with the main site on top, and meta on the bottom.

How do we tag Tasty ?
Q: How do I tag 'It Belongs in an Ancient Ruin'?

GnomeSlice ツThe tag it-belongs-in-an-ancient-ruin is too long to use, at 29 characters. How am I going to tag this game?

@GnomeSliceツ That belongs in a Museum!
@Powerlord NO IT DOES NOT.
8:31 PM
Anyway, I planned on heading home early today. Like right around now.
@Powerlord Drive safely~
One of my roommates texted me earlier and told me cable's out, so I may not be on until late tonight.
Sorry, that was mean. I didn't mean it in a mean way.
later @Powerlord
I also have my room to put back together, including moving my computer, so...
8:32 PM
oh man :(
Speaking of which, I still need to decide where I'm putting it.
also, another protip: if you don't include the version number in SE api calls, you get a 503.
well see you later then
Cthulhu Berserk (+4) + Sharpe Sword Dance (+5) + Sharpe Combo Master (+4) + October Lightning (+5) + Dacre Attack (+1) = +19 combo/round
8:34 PM
Speaking of which.
Q: How do I tag 'It Belongs in an Ancient Ruin'?

GnomeSlice ツThe tag it-belongs-in-an-ancient-ruin is too long to use, at 29 characters. How am I going to tag this game?

however that drains Sharpe's mana too fast. :/
I never decided an an actual answer for this.
oh but I have :P
That brings me to
Cthulhu Berserk (+4) + Sharpe Attack (+2) + Sharpe Combo Master (+4) + October Lightning (+5) + Dacre Attack (+1) = +16 combo/round
ah well.
@badp Don't drain Mana!
It's still ridicolous
However, the Fallen Angel's regenerating upwards of 6k health is also ridicolous.
8:37 PM
@Grace It actually really bugs me that their image for Trilobyte is of a Horseshoe Crab
@badp What about the @FallenAngel's Eyes?
oh come on
the combo counter is capped?
that's lame
feel free to improve the wording
Q: Reconsidering how we tag games in a series

WipqoznAs of late there has been a lot of discussion in chat on how games in a series should be tagged, and it is a topic which has come up in the past. However, we have never been able to reach a consensus on how we should tag games in a series, and some games were discussed in the past and never decid...

that means I can't deal more than 8,519 damage wiith a Deathblow :/
which, after defense and whatnot, became 6,815. :\
And after other people's damage and this guy's healing, became 4k :|
@Lazers This seems kind of... I don't know. Thoughts?
8:39 PM
@FallenAngelEyes Well, I mean, how does a real trilobyte look?
@ArdaXi I think someone's gunning for the Omegathon at PAX Prime
Trilobites (, ; meaning "three lobes") are a well-known fossil group of extinct marine arthropods that form the class Trilobita. The first appearance of trilobites in the fossil record defines the base of the Atdabanian stage of the Early Cambrian period (), and they flourished throughout the lower Paleozoic era before beginning a drawn-out decline to extinction when, during the Devonian, almost all trilobite orders, with the sole exception of Proetida, died out. Trilobites finally disappeared in the mass extinction at the end of the Permian about . The trilobites were among the most suc...
@ArdaXi I think it's good enough for the site.
@GraceNote Well, yes, but we've closed questions similar to this before.
@Manaಠдಠ No I didn't.
8:41 PM
@GnomeSliceツ you totally did
@ArdaXi How are we allowing extensive Starcraft 2 strategies but not this?
@Wipqozn Shh.
@FallenAngelEyes I agree 100%
@FallenAngelEyes That's why I'm asking.
I wasn't sure.
@GraceNote what do you think about this?
8:43 PM
@badp What about the @FallenAngel's Eyes?
@GnomeSliceツ Heal all the HP.
@GnomeSliceツ They're red. Stop asking. ಠ_ಠ (aww, I'm just kidding. still, stop asking.)
@ArdaXi Oh, I wasn't going to comment on the acceptability of the question.
Also, on a related note, I fixed the FPS genre tags. (like I did with rts)
8:44 PM
@GraceNote But... that's your job!
(Well, for a week or so, anyway)
@ArdaXi No, that's badp's job.
He has a job?
Not a paid one in this respect
I thought he just pushed the buttons we tell him to.
Which includes the "Produce feedback on acceptability" button.
8:46 PM
Yeah, but then we have to tell him the feedback to give. Kind of ruins the point.
@GnomeSliceツ I'm not sure
Q: Reconsidering how we tag games in a series

WipqoznAs of late there has been a lot of discussion in chat on how games in a series should be tagged, and it is a topic which has come up in the past. However, we have never been able to reach a consensus on how we should tag games in a series, and some games were discussed in the past and never decid...

I get it. I screwed up. You didn't have to do that though.
What genre should I do next?
8:49 PM
@ArdaXi Kind of the point?
rpgs? good idea.
@GnomeSliceツ Don't do that.
My job description so far has been "ask grace, nod and apply"
Oh. My. God.
For shame @GnomeSlice, for shame
Q: What is 'BloodLust', and how does it affect me?

GnomeSlice ツEvery now and then I'm lucky enough to pick up a rare(ish) weapon from combat. Sometimes, these rare weapons have a stat bonus for something called Bloodlust, given as a percentage. What is this? And what is the percentage a measure of?

Note to self: while convenient, Ctrl to retry uses up 1-ups and loading a save file doesn't.
8:53 PM
@badp HurtAll? Wow, that brings back memories.
@badp That's why I asked Grace, and not you.
@GnomeSliceツ That's why I didn't reply to you.
@badp To what?
@GnomeSliceツ To you
@GraceNote I'm confused.
9:00 PM
@GnomeSliceツ That's all your fault this time.
@GraceNote What isn't?
@ArdaXi Gimme my damn vegetable and leave me alone.
@GnomeSliceツ You haven't earnt it.
There. I think I have all the role playing questions fixed as well.
9:03 PM
So FPS, RTS, and now RPG.
I've flagged quite a few questions as well
Although I still fixed the tags of course.
Actually I've fixed the tags on a few closed questions.
You sure you don't want to run for mod...?
@Manaಠдಠ inorite?
@Wipqozn urdoinitrong
9:06 PM
I'll just use I FIXED ALL THE GENRE TAGS as my nomination.
@GnomeSliceツ What sorry?
@Wipqozn See above.
@ThomasMcDonald in case he misses your one
@ThomasMcDonald Seriously, how did you do that?
9:08 PM
For some reason, I don't think he did
I ShadyURL'd it
@ThomasMcDonald psst,t hat means I didn't notice
Also, I've been listening to this for 10 minutes now without really recognising it
as I was saying, I shall now have to cleanse my brain
9:12 PM
It actually resumes where I left off.
@ArdaXi First to 10 hours wins.
No cheating.
> The question of how people will be able to buy Battlefield 3 has been contentious for weeks, with many gamers hoping to sidestep the entire conversation about online accounts and digital storefronts by purchasing a retail copy of the game. (You know, the version of the game with a box and a disc and everything.) That won't be possible, though, as Global Battlefield Community Manager Daniel Matros has confirmed that retail copies of the game will also require EA's Origin.
Q: What's the deal with these mysterious Ingredient items?

Mana ಠдಠWhen I'm grinding away in dungeons, I sometimes pick up these items shaped like mushrooms, labeled with a giant question mark and the name "Ingredient". These end up taking up a lot of space in my preciously small loot bag, and as far as I can tell I don't end up actually taking them back with me...

9:14 PM
> You'll also be using the Battlelog system to launch the game from your browser, search for servers, and organize games. That's right, you'll be using multiple services to play this game, and it looks as if they'll all be required. I'm sure this will lead to much wailing and gnashing of teeth in our comments, but I'm equally sure it will do little to hurt sales.
Some refreshing realism :|
Vote with your wallet?
@Manaಠдಠ but yeah, maybe I will nominate. It would force us into a primary .
Vote with your wallet is a lie is a lie is a lie
9:16 PM
@ThomasMcDonald HAH.
@Wipqozn :)
Seriously, if nobody else nominates by the time we are about to go into primaries, I will make my nomination a link to 10 hour nyan cat.
@ThomasMcDonald But if we aren't, you won't, right.
@ArdaXi right.
9:17 PM
@Manaಠдಠ my main concern before was my lack of meta participation on the site. That has been improving, but I think spending a few hours fixing genre tags is proof of my dedication.
Also, the half life 3 protest is hilarious
@ThomasMcDonald how can you protest something that doesn't exist?
9:19 PM
Half life 3 protest?
Valve doesn't do 3s
No left 4 dead 3, portal 3, half life episode 3.
Team fortress 3
Also, they got a headcrab off alien swarm ><
@ThomasMcDonald I lol'd. I also haven't played warhammer in ages. I need to get on that.
For now though, TITAN QUEST
9:23 PM
@badp you suck.
If they hadn't already gone home I'd be worried about potential looting at Valve HQ.
oh wait, it's not in London, nvm.
@GnomeSliceツ Your tags suck.
If GnomeSlice's tags were a person, I would punch it in the groin. A lot.
Ok Double XP time, ping me if you need me :)
9:42 PM
I am pleased by this
I still don't know how to tag 'It belongs in an ancient ruin'...
A: How do I tag 'It Belongs in an Ancient Ruin'?

badpit-belongs-in-a-ruin should be sufficient, hoping people will simply autocomplete the tag.

He who fights crime with the most toys wins.
^ Request for a new chat feed ^
@badp I was rather hoping for a consensus, as opposed to just one person's opinion.
@GnomeSliceツ You have my opinion, and another answer with no clear proposal
9:44 PM
@GnomeSlice *7 people's opinions
@badp Me too, thanks for the link, a star for you.
then just tag it whatever and I'll edit it and still win
@GnomeSliceツ You sound like @arda back in the day
@badp I can edit things too.
9:45 PM
@ThomasMcDonald Heh, those were the days.
@GnomeSliceツ Nah, we just let you believe that because it's cute when you think you're helping.
Frozen Synapse Gets Demo, Half Price Weekend http://bit.ly/qVCxfa
You get two copies with each purchase during this sale.
Also, new Source game, Nuclear Dawn if anyone's interested.
Do I want to pay for the WCSF livestream....
S...Steampunk MMO? Yes please!
Frozen Synapse is great.
9:50 PM
Trailer: Guns of Icarus Online (Muse Games) http://bit.ly/qNBbYw
Also this:
@Brant That's terrible.
@Brant Who cares about Nepal?
Do they still make noise when they crunch crisps? Yes they do! How gross. They're thus unimportant in the global scene.
Robin asked if I’d teach him how to drive the Batmobile. I laughed so hard he wet himself.
@ThomasMcDonald That entire forum is wonderful. Especially guessing what the mods are hinting at: forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/f/41/t/45328.aspx
9:55 PM
@CruelCow Hah, I love it.
@CruelCow I lol'd @ "If religion is not aloud on XBL, there is also a place called Hell, Michigan, that could also substitute for the location (I will post a link to google maps below)"
I could browse that for hours. Like this ... person that admits something they didn't know yet: forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/f/41/t/53274.aspx
@CruelCow Yah, read through many a time
@CruelCow Microsoft better watch out – he gon sue!
While those posts aren't really related, you've reminded me of this:
@Brant ಠ_ಠ
@GnomeSliceツ That's horrible.
@GnomeSliceツ :(
9:59 PM
I mean, it's kind of funny in a very, very macabre sort of way.
@CruelCow That one is the best.
@ArdaXi I know what you mean.

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