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7:22 PM
Bored. Entertainment, now.
 
7:44 PM
Greetings.
 
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Q: What are the abilities of the "Special Infected" in Left 2 Die?

Raven DreamerBlizzard's Left 2 Die custom map, a mashup of Left 4 Dead and their own Outbreak campaign mission, starts out with familiar zerg units (from the campaign, if not from multiplayer) assaulting your base, but even during the first night, you will be attacked by "special infected" (so named in the SC...

 
@ItakeDrukqs salutations
also, bbl
 
My employer keeps making these ridiculous demands that I "work"...
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On a Friday!
 
@sjohnston That's crazy talk!
Having said that, I'm battling Java and jQuery event handlers right now... stupid things.
 
I checked in my fun stuff for the day, and now I have an afternoon of bugfixes and/or code reviews ahead of me
 
7:53 PM
Oy. :(
Oh man, @Grace's stealth attacks on my editing habits are so subtle I haven't noticed any of them :(
oh wait, found one. heh.
 
8:08 PM
@sjohnston I don't have any bug fixes to do right now, just writing new handlers in what I swear is one of the worst-designed web apps ever.
 
8:28 PM
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Q: GoldenEye Wii splitscreen online?

prolink007I was wondering if GoldenEye 007 for the Wii supports online play for 2 people on the same console? Could my wife and I play online at the same time from the same console?

 
@Powerlord it would be interesting to compare notes
 
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Q: Overburdened Knight early in the game, how to carry more?

I take DrukqsI'm having some serious trouble with being overburdened on my Knight all the time. If I find a better armor than my starting ring mail and put it on and drop my ring mail, I'm overburdened! What's the most reliable way to carry more stuff early on in the game?

 
I'm busy coding up a replacement for some ... unpleasant C++ code
 
@CRoss nice QA + nomination
and I liked how you at least dared to say you'd pick yourself, nobody on SU dared to do so
 
I know just enough c++ to be dangerous with it. And not in a good way.
 
8:36 PM
@IvoFlipse thanks
@IvoFlipse honestly, if I wouldn't vote for me, what am I wasting a nomination slot on?
 
dangerous as in messing up your computer :P
very true and actually I like your selection
 
@Powerlord I didn't say I was writing it in C++
converting it to C#
 
I'm not 100% sure if I would want @badp as a mod, some users are uhmmm better on the other side of the moderating line
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almost like you need journalists to keep politicians in check ;)
 
very true, a lot of people do calm down with responsibility
 
@CRoss Right, but I can't really read it either. :P
 
8:38 PM
I can read and write C++ ... just not this windows MFC stuff
 
@IvoFlipse starred, I'd link to it from the nomination along with the bad stuff but then I'd ruin the link count. (Also you commented this already and I upvoted it.)
oh wait I didn't upvote it because you said I would behave myself
you crazy person
<cheek><tongue/></cheek>
 
I'm surprised @oak didn't put up his nomination yet
 
He's tilting towards not nominating
 
9:02 PM
oh dear, how's that?
now I must almost nominate myself
if only to say in the QA that I truly despise ITG
 
@IvoFlipse ITG?
 
@Powerlord identify this game
 
@CRoss HEY! Are you trying to get rid of my rep far... er... I mean... these important questions?
I definitely wasn't saying "rep farming tool"
 
@Powerlord I said they're fine, read my Q&A
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A: Q&A with the Candidates in the 2011 Moderator Elections

C. Ross What do you believe is the biggest issue currently facing Gaming.se? How do you plan to handle it? I see the growth of the site as both a good thing, and a risk that has to be managed. As we gain popularity, and have lots of new people who don't know the culture dropping in it will be m...

 
@CRoss Whoops, probably should have replied to Ivo. :P
 
9:07 PM
yeah, blame where it's due
;-)
 
Hey, can anyone fast forward time about 50 minutes?
 
random TAS that is 50 mins long: youtube.com/watch?v=zNArtVnk2mI
 
I can't leave early, either, as I've already turned in my time sheet. :/
and I don't really feel like trying to figure out why this event handler's not firing correctly
 
9:24 PM
it's because you forgot to bind it
 
@Brant I'm binding it as a live event.
 
I should just go home now. This little problem has sucked away any motivation I had to get anything else done this week.
 
Did you make the proper virgin offering to the elder jQuery gods?
 
have you guys checked out jquery mobile yet?
 
@badp Nope... which would explain why my event isn't firing.
 
9:26 PM
I looked at it a while back, but I've never used it for anything.
 
@badp we traditionally sacrifice a goat during the new moon, and draw a giant IE symbol in it's blood on our lawn
 
It looks pretty sweet.
 
Ooo.... shiiiiny.
 
so sexy
 
9:27 PM
My JS Debugger (Firebug) isn't stopping at the breakpoint I'm setting, so something's definitely not firing properly.
 
ooh, I just had a neat idea for a home project. I wonder if Winnipeg Transit has anything I can hack into a workable API...
 
have you tried using node.js?
oh man look at this code:
$.mobile.changePage({
url: "searchresults.php",
type: "get",
data: $("form#search").serialize()
});
sooooo sexy
 
I'm not entirely sure what node.js is exactly
 
Brant do you know what perl is?
perl is to the perl language as node.js is to javascript
what?
no
perl is a programming language
 
oh god yes
iOS webapp time!
Errm, anyway.
@tzenes I'm not sure I get the distinction between perl and the perl language
 
9:32 PM
perl is an executable program
 
do you mean /usr/bin/perl?
Ah, gotcha.
Javascript outside a webpage then, cool. What can you do with it exactly?
 
I think I'd rather set my head on fire than deal with JavaScript outside the browser.
 
JS is great once you get used to it.
BTW, we should move all this here:
 
9:44 PM
These are the Days of Our Lives.
 
PhoneGap is another interesting-looking mobile framework
 
@Powerlord Huh? Mascot? Me? Is the community now so conflicted it is best represented by me?
 
@ArdaXi Yup. Sad, isn't it?
 
The moment I become/became a representative of the community is/was/will be a sad one indeed.
 
@ArdaXi So, you're saying don't vote for you? :D
 
9:57 PM
@Powerlord Have you been paying any attention whatsoever in chat?
 
@ArdaXi Only sometimes.
And not for the next 30 minutes, because I'm going home.
 
@Powerlord Click the link under my nomination and scroll up.
 
10:30 PM
@Powerlord 30 minutes have passed.
 
10:47 PM
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Q: What are the default button mappings for the Thrustmaster Ferrari GT Experience?

saw-lauThe title says it all, really. This steering wheel was bought for me as a Christmas present, and I'd like to map some of its buttons to different functions. How do they map to a standard PS3 controller?

 
BUG SQUASHED
 
...?
Oh. Right. Work.
 
@Grace I'm trying this new thing my employer recommended - "working"
 
I had hoped you meant that one of our outstanding bug reports on Meta was squashed and I somehow missed it. That would've been two levels of glory right there.
 
sadly, no
And I feel extra cool now, because it turns out I had already fixed this bug in another place and blithely overlooked this particular instance of it
 
10:58 PM
So, what you're saying is that I can completely flip around your bliss by pointing out that this whole thing wouldn't have existed had you been more thorough in the past?
 
@GraceNote indeed
@grace although this was the last task that needs to be done for the build next week. And since I got it done, I can devote more of my my weekend time to GAMING!
and that causes a significant increase in bliss
I am going to fortress the crap out of some dwarves
 
Hehe... Oggez Rashas...
 
whistles
 
Hiya @Mana ♪
 
Heeeeeeeey.
I went searching for stealth pokes at my editing tendencies, but have found very little
what did you meeeeeean
 
11:03 PM
Well, one was only in your global inbox, so if you missed it by now, it's probably gone. And you'll never know where your liver went. ♪
 
chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarlieeeeeeeeeeee
 
Missing liver? I'd suspect the black market, organ trafficking and whatnot.
 
candy mountain charlie
 
Oh good heavens, not Charlie the Unicorn...
 
I have come to believe that Mana has an overactive vowel gland, and is forced to jettison them in abundance through the vocal orifice in order to prevent it from bursting.
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(Maaaaaaaaan.)
 
11:05 PM
maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
I'm just really pretentious.
 
Maaaaaaaaan
It'd be better if you were precocious. Then you'd be like Quon.
 
Everyone should have their own strange affectation. It makes chat more...interesting.
 
is recalled of the Ministry of SIlly Walks
 
Yes @sjohns. Everyone should have their own strange affectation. stares
 
So, we have about a year and a half before the first clients will not be able to acquire an IPv4 address.
 
11:08 PM
although I guess your unicorn gravatar kind of counts
 
@ArdaXi Not if we reallocate some of Egypt's.
Man, I'm such a dick sometimes.
 
wow that was uh a good one @Gnomes
 
This is the APNIC region, but before you think this doesn't concern you: this means you can't access their sites over IPv4 either.
 
it almost feels like you uh
 
Hurr hurr hurr.
 
11:08 PM
stole it from something
 
@Mana Stole it?
Swish
It's still dick-ish of me.
 
We're used to that from you. :)
 
I'm especially used to it.
 
Now for something on topic:
 
@Mana I have amassed an amazing abundance of alliteration as my aforementioned affectation.
alright?
 
11:09 PM
Browser Game Pick: I Am An Insane Rogue Ai (Nerdook) http://bit.ly/emd4fB
 
@sjohns cool
 
Well, I better get to sleep, work at 10 tomorrow. (It's 00:09 right now, before you ask.)
 
Cheers @Arda.
@Gnomes I didn't really like IRAI as much as I wanted to
 
@Mana You define your own level of enjoyment.
 
I... scratches head Huh?
 
11:12 PM
leaves mysteriously
(Well, I'm going to keep idling here, but pretend I'm not here)
 
Why are people doing that so often these days :(
the saying cool things and leaving bit
 
You should try it some time
 
The mistake is leaving chat in the first place. nods
 
That is true. People should be more like me. Leave the chat room without ever leaving the chat room
 
Hence I do not leave, I idle.
 
11:15 PM
kicks @Arda
 
I don't think I've ever had more than like an hour of downtime on chat.
 
@Mana IAAIRA*
Also, I playtested it. So bonus points.
 
STOP KEEPING ME AWAKE, I NEED MY SLEEP
 
Weak is for the sleep!
 
Did you guys hear? Nerdook just got engaged.
 
11:16 PM
turns off monitor to definitely leave
 
congrats @Nerdook
 
I don't know who Nerdook is, so unless a wedding gown is involved I'm not really interested.
 
@Grace :
6 mins ago, by GnomeSlice
Browser Game Pick: I Am An Insane Rogue Ai (Nerdook) http://bit.ly/emd4fB
 
why is it even larger
 
Because I said so.
 
11:17 PM
It's a onebox of a quote of a onebox
 
facedesk
 
And all that tells me is one tidbit of information. Which is to say naught
 
Keep whining and I'll do it again @Mana.
@Grace He's a flash game developer.
 
@Grace He's on our site, actually. He only gave like one answer
but still a member of the site
and by our site I mean my site, sorry
 
That happens to be that "one tidbit of information" I mentioned
 
11:18 PM
I pointed out to him an [identify this game] question about one of his games, and he made an account to answer it.
 
Now, @Mana, @Mana is useful and gives additional information
 
I'm citing that for my mod nomination.
juss sayin'.
 
Except now I'm confused between whether "my site" refers to here or a different site that you and Gnome are on.
Go ahead, maaaaan
 
No no, it's this site. I just realized that I sounded kind of rude saying "our site", so I decided to take it a step further
 
@GraceNote What additional information did he give?
Argh. My XBLA version of DOOM seems to crash every time I complete the last stage of episode 4. :/
That's like the 8th attempt.
 
11:20 PM
@GnomeSlice Information of relevance to me, with depth and scattendelarosity which yours greatly lacked.
 
2 mins ago, by Mana
@Grace He's on our site, actually. He only gave like one answer
 
Aye, that
 
bows
 
How is being a member of our site entirely relevant?
 
It's a lot more relevant to me than being a flash game developer that I've never heard of.
 
11:21 PM
So instead he's a Gaming user you've never heard of.
Right. It makes sense now.
 
Methods of familiarity boil down to simple processes: whether I've met the person, whether I know of any of their works, whether I should have heard of them by my own travels.
 
You should have heard of them.
 
I could know this Nerdook by other means, for all I know I may have played one or more other products. But the only knowledge I got from you is that which I already had prior to inquisition
 
What do you know about him now?
 
Hence, Mana gave new information, however worthless, but relevant and deep. Deep.
 
11:23 PM
That he signed up for Gaming S.E.
Very deep, for sure.
 
1. Flash game developer. 2. Is member of community.
Oh, quite deep. Quite deep.
 
Hmmm. I'm beginning to see how this works.
 
Mr. Francis York Morgan.
 
Mostly because I had tidbit 1 as early as when you first posted the Twitter box, not when you quoted it.
 
Nerdook is a member you must surely meet.
You will find my description to be quite deep.
 
11:24 PM
Hit him up on Kongregate.
 
So says Mr. Stewart.
 
Hm... I've managed to avoid Kongregate for my entire life thus far...
 
Rumor: Halo: Combat Evolved HD remake coming this fall. http://bit.ly/fhieBq
Also, I forgot to mention, someone needs to re-pin the login button.
I can't login at school without it. :/
 
Can anyone link it?
 
@badp can, surely.
 
11:26 PM
I imagine he can, and my name's not Shirley.
 
Jan 28 at 11:21, by badp
Trouble logging in? Clicky.
Don't tell Oak though :P
 
@badp can you pin it?
 
@GnomeSlice Oak kinda asked me to stop pinning it.
 
Excellent. :)
@badp But I neeeeeeed it. :(
I'll harass Oak about it, I think.
 
@GnomeSlice So do I, occasionally.
I said "kinda"
 
11:27 PM
Hm... does it have to be pinned in this room?
 
I absolutely cannot log in at school without it.
 
@Grace where else?
 
besides I think the button is now linked from the new message that drops down when you attempt to log in regularly
 
And, more importantly, why does it have to be pinned?
 
11:28 PM
Because otherwise, I don't know how to find it.
 
@GnomeSlice A non-gaming specific room would probably be a more acceptable place to put it.
 
@GraceNote 1. load chat from mobile 2. menu → room 3. click on link (only top three starred posts are shown)
 
And that's the fourth time CrackDown has crashed for me just now while trying to start it up.
 
Bookmark, perhaps?
 
That would work too. That's why I didn't repin it.
 
11:29 PM
@GraceNote I end up using a different machine every day at school.
 
Secret link in your own profile, any number of ways. I can see Oak's reasoning for not wanting it constantly up there in this specific room.
 
However new users may not know about it
 
But I could just tweet the link I suppose, and then favourite the tweet.
 
What does the button do differently, anyway?
 
11:30 PM
I have no clue, @TimStone
 
@TimStone It works without global storage
that is, from mobiles and IE7
 
@badp Marc said that they hacked the normal login method to support lack of localStorage too, though?
 
link?
 
Presumably you're all still having issues, but hrm.
One second, let me scan my memory and try to remember where he said it.
 
sigh
 
11:32 PM
There's only 3 mentioned from Marc
 
Dunno if it's any better on IE7
 
Naught much else on the subject
 
Ah, it's unclear what he was even referring to, I suppose it could have been the button itself, heh.
in The Tavern (General) on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, Nov 24 '10 at 7:45, by Marc Gravell
just, we have our über-ghetto IE7 login hack... er, I mean fix, for chat.SE ready for end-user abuse. I mean, use.
 
@TimStone Yes, that's what it linked to.
 
Gotcha.
 
11:33 PM
Oh jeez, pardon my twitter spam, but this is of the utmost relevance/importance:
Weekend Sale: Raptor Safari for $1 in the Mac App Store! http://blur.st/raptor-sale http://fb.me/Hl1noi1s
If only I had a credit card...
 
I need an extravagant title for a clandestine locale.
 
"The MSO Tavern."
 
That is neither extravagant nor clandestine
 
@Mana If I ask a question about which outfit for the female character in Lost Planet 2 is the most revealing, are you prepared to answer it?
 
11:35 PM
To outsiders it is.
Backronym it, "Mischieves of Sloth's Order." or something
 
@badp Fail. :(
 
I'd like something more... internal, so to speak.
 
"The MSO Harem."
</bad-pun-of-the-day>
 
removes badp's name from the roster
 
Oh snap
 
11:38 PM
@Gnomes this is just ridiculous. Aren't they in extreme climates?
 
In other news
 
Got delayed leaving work, then traffic was slow, and I stopped to get some food.
 
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Q: What is this thing called?

Portman(Original title: "WTF is this thing called?") I have a couple of networking components in my rack that take giant AC adapters ("power bricks") that don't fit neatly into my rackmount PDU. I have one "thingy" that is shown below, and I need to buy a few more. But I have no idea what I'm searchi...

identify-this-thingy
 
@Mana In the second game, the planet is much more terraformed.
 
In other news, Monday Night Combat released a Dedicated Server... and it's Windows only.
 
11:40 PM
Although for some reason, you still slowly lose 'thermal energy'
 
...even so.
 
aaanyway, back to playing games I can't tell you about.
 
@Mana Interestingly, the 'Sand Raider' bottom is the only outfit in the game that features dynamic butt-physics.
 
@badp You know, we're just going to assume they're Hentai or something
 
then I'm powerless to change it :)
 
11:43 PM
Man, the A.I. IS really terrible in this game though. :(
They just stand still shooting at you.
The Scariest Monsters in Video Games: Aliens, Creatures, and Creepers Oh My! http://bit.ly/eIhN9j
You know, for a company with 'Game Gear' in their name, they seem to have surprisingly fuew 'gear' related tweets.
 
@GnomeSlice and surprisingly few Sega related items?
 
@Powerlord You know, know that you mention that, I think that maybe I've been interpreting their name incorrectly this whole time.
Also, back to my secondary topic, I don't think Lost Planet 2 is as bad as everyone gives it credit for.
Then again, I have a history of latching onto games the general population says sucks.
 
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Q: Best Practices: Titles and Tags

Raven DreamerSo the new "suggested edits" bit is really neat, however I've been seeing a lot of edits that basically amounted to-- "Removed X from the title because it was already in the tags" Is this stackexchange policy somewhere? I guess I'm just not understanding the rationale behind it; I could s...

 
@Feeds So maybe I had the wrong impression about this, but I figured it was because of this new thing where we have the main/most popular tag at the beginning of the title.
 
@Mana Most popular, for starters
 
11:52 PM
Maybe we need tag classes.
 
Which has its ups and downs. Like how "xbox-360" outnumbers every 360 game we actually have tags for.
 
Then again, maybe we don't.
 
That's actually been some argument as to why one should put the stuff into the title, though.
Personally, I think it's better if the stuff can be put into the title organically rather than just prepended at the front like some manner of category.
 
Personally, seeing it in google results, I think it looks ugly.
 
@Mana but tags don't show up in google results.
Wait, do they?
 
11:54 PM
I don't believe so.
 
@GnomeSlice The most popular tag, if not already in the title, is added
 
let me check by running a google search on some random programming thing
 
@Mana You mean gaming thing.
 
Which leads to beautious things like "starcraft-2 - StarCraft2: How do I..."
 
@Gnome no, SO is easier to find
 
11:55 PM
@Mana Nothing worth doing is ever easy.
Search for the golden mushroom in Mario Kart.
I know for a fact that one is the top result.
 
I ran a quick search on Java best practices, SO result on the second page
you'll have to give me a few minutes, a really sick song just kicked in
so I'm just going to be staring at the ceiling like a stoner until it ends
 
@Mana That's not a very good chatting practice.
 
not many things I do are.
okay it's done
now then
 
That was a short song.
 
eh, 3:01
I guess you're right
 
11:59 PM
Seemed shorter.
 
"nintendo 64 - What's the most efficient usage of the golden ..."
 
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