The Whiteboard

- Bid on projects and put the beginning of the solution in your cover letter. Last project I posted, a guy did explain how he would proceed. I picked him.

- Bid low because you can't justify a high bid until you have good ratings

- When you have a project, DELIGHT the user. You are not seeking money for now, you are seeking good ratings. Good ratings will allow you to bid normally, and LOT of good ratings will allow you to bid high.

Jinjavajin

ok,i will try in that way

Pierre 303

Give me your profile, I'll review it, because a bad profile will not help

Jinjavajin

ok,let me show my profile

vworker.com/RentACoder/DotNet/SoftwareCoders/…

Pierre 303

Ok, you must change few things.

Jinjavajin

what are they?

Pierre 303

12:16 PM

1. The most important; Your picture. Choose a picture of you smiling (a bit), well shaved hair dressed, in a suit or any "business" environment. You must put a face on that profile and show you are a professional.

Jinjavajin

ok,i will do it soon

Pierre 303

2. Too much specialties. I think you can safely remove SQL Administration.

3. Do more test and try to get higher scores.

I think you will get more results by changing those

Jinjavajin

ok,i will follow your advise

Pierre 303

Also something missing is a description of yourself. You list some skills, but we employers want to know more about you. And also all things you did in the past (projects)

Last advice: bid, bid and bid.... One day, you will be selected.

Jinjavajin

yah,i'm going to follow it

but i know only java,SQL,htm and xml,are that enough to be hired?

Pierre 303

12:22 PM

Yes

Jinjavajin

but when i'm looking into projcects,i see lot of confusing terms which have no ralation to java,can i bid on them?

Jinjavajin

12:38 PM

@Pierre303 in the early day's of learning java i copmleeted the problems in codingbat.com/java

what about showing it in my profile?

ilias

Hello everyone

Is there somebody here who can help me out with an Python script?

Jinjavajin

Hi,chris

@Pierre303 you busy in vworker.com?

Pierre 303

1:02 PM

@Jinjavajin: I was in a meeting. Bid on things you know you will be able to complete AND with great quality

Jinjavajin

ok,thanks

Jinjavajin

2:00 PM

@Pierre303 are you there?

Pierre 303

Yes

Jinjavajin

oh,ok

Do you have any projects poened in java right now?

Pierre 303

I don't work in Java technologies. Javascript sometimes.

Do you want me to post a project for you so you get a first good rating?

Jinjavajin

yah,i want it if you can,

i dont want to be get paid,i want practice java more

Pierre 303

Let me check in my project list if I have something for you

Jinjavajin

2:06 PM

ok,i'm waiting for that

Pierre 303

But are you good with Javascript ?

Jinjavajin

@Pierre303 oh,sorry not better in Jscript,

I can do java very well

Pierre 303

Will check in my project list later today, just come back here monday or tuesday

Jinjavajin

ok,i will do

please check my profile in odesk.com odesk.com/users/Ready-for-java_~~6ca21087fb1cc548?sid=28001

Pierre 303

I use oDesk too

Jinjavajin

2:17 PM

i have an active project there,but they allows me to work maximum 10 hours per week,

Pierre 303

I have 2 employees trough that platform

Jinjavajin

oh,do you have any active projects in java there?

Pierre 303

I don't work in Java technologies

Jinjavajin

then,which technologies are you mainly working in?

Pierre 303

.NET

Jinjavajin

2:23 PM

oh,then the next one i'm going to learn is .NET

Pierre 303

I don't know the java world so much. But I think learning .NET may be a good thing.

Jinjavajin

ok, what about using visualJ#

to write .NET progams in java?

Pierre 303

That would not be useful to me since I work with C#

Jinjavajin

ok,but can't i use it?can i bid on .NET project if i know visualJ#?

Pierre 303

I don't think it's a good idea. People will expect C# or even VB.NET

Jinjavajin

2:38 PM

@Pierre303 ok,then i won't go for it

i created it by midifying an example program it a text that support only one connection

Anna Lear

What other technologies do you work in, @Pierre303?

Jinjavajin

recently i created a download manager that support multiple connection for a single download

hi anna,what are the technologies you are working in?

Pierre 303

@AnnaLear: do you mean platforms or technologies within the Microsoft Stack ?

Anna Lear

@Jinjavajin Mostly C# and lately Python + app integration into a single suite.

@Pierre303 Either or both. I'm just curious. :)

Jinjavajin

@AnnaLear i saw ur comment on the question about car and software,that is awesome

Pierre 303

2:48 PM

@AnnaLear: I'm very active in the Microsoft ecosystem and a big fan of nHibernate. I do some PHP application occasionally

And Javascript of course

I was a Javascript developer before jQuery ;) That was really hard at the time.

Anna Lear

@Jinjavajin Thanks. :)

Pierre 303

@AnnaLear: I understood you work in a dev shop as a C# developer?

Anna Lear

@Pierre303 Sort of. I write more Python than C# these days. This job has me do "strategic coding" -- small changes here and there to make different components of our overall suite work with each other better.

Jinjavajin

can you someone check my downlad manager and say how is it?

Anna Lear

@Pierre303 Last job was straight up C#/WinForms/ASP.NET + some NHibernate, though we eventually ditched it for a homebrew file store (I swear it made sense at the time. :))

Pierre 303

2:52 PM

Do you know Waterloo is a place in Belgium?

Of course you know, sorry for that insult ;)

That's where Napoleon has been defeated by his opponents.

Anna Lear

@Pierre303 A lot of place names around here are borrowed from the "old world" :) There's a London and a Paris within a couple hours away.

Pierre 303

Waterloo is also the name of a great song ;)

Anna Lear

Indeed. :)

@Jinjavajin I can take a look at it when I get home, if you want to share a download link here.

Pierre 303

Must go see you later

Jinjavajin

@AnnaLear oh,but i can send it to you if you give me ur mail ID

Anna Lear

2:56 PM

@Jinjavajin anna at annalear.ca

And on that note, I also gotta go. Work day's kicking into high gear.

Jinjavajin

ok,bye see you pierree,take care

ok, i will send it

@AnnaLear is it Gmail id?

Anna Lear

3:28 PM

@Jinjavajin No, that's just my email.

Jinjavajin

then i just have to send it to annalear.ca

@AnnaLear is it a complete id?

@AnnaLear what i hava to give in To section?

Anna Lear

3:49 PM

@Jinjavajin Well, you have to change the "at" to @ and remove spaces to make it a fully valid email address.

q303

5:21 PM

if you work on Javascript, what are some good development tools?

I mean, I get really irritated working in JQuery becomes it seems that debugging is a really time consuming process

I use Firebug

Brant

5:49 PM

Firebug is the best tool I can think of for JS development, really.

q303

hmm

Brant

6:17 PM

So my IT department finally started officially using source control last year. I just found out that we have a whole repository that just contains a copy of our Intranet... all the _vti_cnf cruft, compiled .dlls in the /bin folder, the duplicated copies of webapps that point to different databases, the /test folder, everything. Aaaaugh.

The deployment is in source control, not the source.

This is the second time this week I've wondered if it would be okay to bring a bottle of scotch to work.

It's not as if the public folder on the web server is a working copy, either... I have no idea how or even if people are committing changes they make. (Yes, the changes they make to the live pages on the intranet server. Map it to a network drive, open it up in notepad, and edit it live! Whee!)

Kill me please.

Josh K

6:36 PM

That's great.

@Brant: Do they have all the war's under source control too? Someone I knew did that. Can you imagine every commit dragging a new 30mb+ binary file?

Pierre 303

@JoshK: Do you master PHP ?

Josh K

@Pierre303 What do you mean?

Pierre 303

@JoshK: Are you very good at PHP ?

Josh K

@Pierre303 Yes, I would say I am.

Pierre 303

do you accept code reviewing missions

Josh K

6:38 PM

@Pierre303 I would be willing to go through some, sure.

Pierre 303

I mailed you

Josh K

Was just going to say drop me a line. ;)

Pierre 303

;) I want to release some code wrote in PHP and I'm not sure of the quality. I want the opinion of an expert first.

C. Ross

on another note. Why is C++ on Windows so much more complicated than C++ on *nix

Pierre 303

I think the guy that wrote it was very good at Javascript, but probably not at PHP

Josh K

6:43 PM

Ooo. That will be fun.

PHP and JS are pretty similar syntax wise. It's the OOP aspects that might be more stressed.

Rebecca Chernoff

codereview.stackexchange.com

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Josh K

@RebeccaChernoff: That sounds like a great way to do work without getting paid. ;)

Though I didn't know it was in beta, I hadn't followed it from Area51.

Pierre 303

@JoshK: ExtJs was used and I'm very happy of that. But my concerns are more about the server side.

C. Ross

@JoshK and SO/SF isn't?

Josh K

@CRoss Oh it is

But often that's one-off problem solving

Not an in-depth analysis of code

I'm taking a look now, it's pretty interesting to see some of the opinions / and "questions" offered up.

Pierre 303

6:50 PM

Nice idea. I will contribute by posting one to see how it goes...

I stopped to post questions on SO. The last three questions had no valid answers except my own I got from other sources.

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