The Nineteenth Byte

Anush

15:03

is there a smart way in code to download a manual and convert it to pdf? I would like to do this for docs.dgl.ai/guide/index.html

just those 8 chapters

PyGamer0

pandoc? idk if it supports html to pdf, it should i guess

Anush

@PyGamer0 I am not even sure how to download the 8 chapters in html

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Ctrl+S or dev tools or wget/curl

Anush

@taRadvylfsriksushilani It's the recursive part that I am not sure about

I don't want to recurse on the many menu items on the left

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

They shouldn't recurse, right?

Anush

15:08

@taRadvylfsriksushilani sorry to be dim but could you tell me what the curl or wget line is that I should try please?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

I don't know the format of the page since it's blocked on my wifi, so I can't, sorry :/

Anush

I wonder why it is blocked??

@PyGamer0 do you know how to do this?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

.ai, probably

Ginger Industries

hello there

New Posts

0

Q: Biggest katlani noun dictionary in 400 bytes

Katlani is a constructed language being designed in chat. In this challenge, your goal is to print the largest dictionary of katlani nouns possible in 400 bytes or less. Task In 400 bytes or less, your program should print a list of katlani nouns. You can choose to output them as a list/array in ...

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

15:11

@GingerIndustries hai ita

Ginger Industries

@NewPosts [insert witty response]

todo: make an APOL Programmer joke

PyGamer0

@Anush pandoc is a converter

i think i used it ONCE

pandoc supports html

Anush

@PyGamer0 thanks but how would I get all of the 8 chapters downloaded so I can use pandoc on it?

Ginger Industries

4

Anush

CMQ how can I download all 8 chapters of docs.dgl.ai/guide/index.html so I can then pandoc on it?

Ginger Industries

15:19

@Anush one sec

Anush

@GingerIndustries thanks!

Ginger Industries

@Anush ...

Anush

:)

Ginger Industries

@Anush github.com/dmlc/dgl/tree/0.7.x/docs try downloading that

@taRadvylfsriksushilani hey I made one of these

Anush

@GingerIndustries should I git clone it?

Ginger Industries

15:23

@Anush if that works then sure

Anush

@GingerIndustries I am trying to work that out :)

@GingerIndustries I did git clone github.com/dmlc/dgl

I then go into dgl/docs

where there is clean.sh

I can run that

but bpa.st/42VQ

:(

PyGamer0

pip install mxnet?

Anush

if I do that I now get bpa.st/BJUQ

Adám

This one is better:

3

PyGamer0

@Adám that indeed is better

Bgil Midol

15:38

@Adám that is much much better

Anush

I am going back to wget as that didn't work

how can I recursively download this website docs.dgl.ai/guide/index.html but only get pages whose url starts docs.dgl.ai/guide ?

pxeger

5

Apple programmer

Anush

ok cracked the first part!

wget -r --no-parent docs.dgl.ai/guide/index.html is the answer

PyGamer0

16:06

@pxeger lmao APL <=> apple

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Yay! 15k rep! I can now...protect questions .-.

Ginger Industries

@taRadvylfsriksushilani nice

Bgil Midol

@taRadvylfsriksushilani exactly 15000 rep

congrats

New Posts

16:38

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Q: Please predict pumpkin planting plans' potential problems

You are going to be planting pumpkins soon, and you are preparing your supplies. Pumpkins come in all sorts of sizes and have their sizes written on the seed bag. A pumpkin that is size n will grow to be n units wide. However pumpkins need their space. If a pumpkin is stuck between two other...

code-golf array

hyper-neutrino

that's an excellent title

pxeger

> Test cases

>

thank you Wheat Wizard, very cool

hyper-neutrino

lol

Bgil Midol

lol

hyper-neutrino

i believe you can just make every pumpkin grow as far left as possible and scan left-to-right (or equivalently grow as far right as possible and scan right-to-left)

Wheat Wizard

16:41

lol

hyper-neutrino

not sure

Wheat Wizard

I don't think you can.

[0,3,0] doesn't work, unless I don't understand the algo.

pxeger

Well "as far left as possible" would stop at the edges of the list

hyper-neutrino

as far left as possible = as far left as is valid

Wheat Wizard

Ah ok I see.

pxeger

16:44

Doesn't make it any less interesting

Wheat Wizard

[2,0,0,3,0,0,2]

hyper-neutrino

yeah it's not uninteresting. just thinking of an approach

Wheat Wizard

Ok you scan left to right. Yeah I see that works.

pxeger

@WheatWizard the steps could be represented as:

hyper-neutrino

it might still be golfier to brute force

pxeger

16:45

[2, 0, 0, 3, 0, 0, 2]
[1, 1, 0, 3, 0, 0, 2]
[1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 2]
[1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1]

Ginger Industries

@hyper-neutrino cause that's how we do it here at Pode Polf Cack Gxchange

DLosc

Is there a way for me to create a chat room for a discussion with another user who doesn't have a chat profile yet?

Fmbalbuena

17:05

@Neil I have 3 questions: What is Slice, Map and Push in Charcoal?

(I'm not sure if he is sleeping)

@Adám What happened "What people think I do and what I actually do"

Wheat Wizard

Charcoal's map is just a regular map.

Fmbalbuena

@WheatWizard I haven't learned Python map

mathcat

ooh just realized that I casted 1005 votes! (probably nothing special but still)

Wheat Wizard

@Fmbalbuena It takes a list and a function and applies that function to every item in the list producing a new list of the results.

map (+1) [1,6,3,4] = [2,7,4,5]

hyper-neutrino

@DLosc i don't think that's possible; you can make a room and link it in a comment or something like that

IIRC mods can force create chat profiles by superpinging the user by their main profile

DLosc

17:12

@hyper-neutrino Yeah, that's what I ended up doing

Wheat Wizard

@Fmbalbuena Slice works like python's list[start:end:step] syntax.

DLosc

@PyGamer0 Yes.

Fmbalbuena

And Push?

@WheatWizard

PyGamer0

@DLosc ?

also how am i joining TNB at the perfect times

like i got pinged

DLosc

@PyGamer0 I like both, and I think each has advantages.

Wheat Wizard

17:36

@Fmbalbuena Not sure.

Sandbox Posts

17:59

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

TDG - Test Driven Golf popularity-contest Our company requires unit testing before code can be deployed to production. Unfortunately, my code is written in esoteric programming languages, none of which have test runners. Please help me get to production! Input Source code written in language X T...

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

18:35

I'd been getting two lunches instead of one from my school cafeteria for the last month or so, since they cut the amount of food in each one in like half, but they finally caught me :(

The amount of food they gave us in kindergarten is higher than the amount we get in high school

The state requires the lunch food be healthy, but the way that the law works, it's not based on the serving size. So instead of making the food have half as much sugar and salt, they just cut in half how much we get.

Ginger Industries

@taRadvylfsriksushilani ಠ_ಠ

what kind of a school is this

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

That leads to the rather humorous situation where we weren't allowed to sell cookies at the school store because of their sugar content, so we found a company with smaller cookies and sold them in pairs

@GingerIndustries Public school, in Texas

The US, and Texas especially, doesn't really do education very well

Ginger Industries

ah well

emanresu A

Nice job beating arnauld redwolf

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

This is the same state that gives us four hours to do our 40 question standardized tests and doesn't let people leave early if they finish

And that passed a law that made it illegal for schools to require masks

Ginger Industries

18:42

@taRadvylfsriksushilani that's 6 whole minutes per question!

@taRadvylfsriksushilani okay what the rgksp

emanresu A

And the one that organised redwolf's latin class

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Well, that's the school district, not the state

Ginger Industries

@emanresuA okay I haven't heard this story

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

My latin class is...it's a very long story

Ginger Industries

@taRadvylfsriksushilani good thing I've got nine lives to hear it in

I sense a long message

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

18:45

A long, multi-part message

Ginger Industries

.O.

Gather round, golfers. Today we shall hear about the Saga of Redwolf's Latin Class

9

unrelated but incredible idea: Get @lyxal to put evey starred message in this room into GPT-3 and make it generate some more

so we can have a look at TNB in peak form

emanresu A

Redwolf is typing

Ginger Industries

Here's a preview by GPT-2

@mathcat's movie thing vs. the Saga, which will win

Bgil Midol

@GingerIndustries @mathcat's movie

Ginger Industries

the Featured Presentation will begin shortly. Please turn off all phones, computers, laptops, and children and remain in your seats. All 200-foot lead spheres must be left outside the theater for the duration of the movie. Please do not expose popcorn or film to the light of the screen or projector. Thanks, and we'll start in a moment.

it's been 2 minutes, I'm beginning to become concerned

*15 minutes, sorry

brb

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

19:00

Well, our latin teacher last year got her PhD in something or other around the end of the school year, so she got a new job over the summer. That happened to line up with a huge shortage of teachers, meaning that my high school didn't have any latin teachers this year. Well, not too much of an issue, the district managed to get Zoom set up and had the latin teacher from the next high school over teach us. For about two weeks, before he resigned for unknown reasons. (1/6)

He was the second-to-last latin teacher in the district, and the other one presumably already had far too much work to be able to teach us. So, we spend a little while having basically nothing to do. At this point, switching to another Spanish I was an option for most of us, but since we'd already taken Latin I, it'd mean we wasted that class (since your foreign language credits need to be in the same language). Only one person decided to switch. (2/6)

The school managed to find an online self-paced thing. Things seemed fine for about a week, but then we started doing assignments. Or at least, trying to. The online thing used a different textbook, that taught things in a totally different order, at a totally different pace. So, its Latin II was nothing like our Latin II, and as a result we were (and are) totally unprepared for it. (3/6)

It expects us to know all sorts of stuff that we just didn't know, and without a teacher, we can't ask questions about stuff. So I still just stumble through the assignments, using a latin dictionary and lots of guesswork to figure out what anything means. None of us have any clue how to do stuff. A while back we all got together and compiled a list of issues we had with the course (4/6)

and brought those to the district. Some time later, they responded by buying us Latin II textbooks...the ones the district used, not the ones the online class used. And we already had an online copy of the correct textbook. And after that, they figured they'd done the best they could, and they haven't contacted us since. There are 15 chapters we need to complete during the year, (5/6)

and the most anyone has managed to do so far is 3. And we're halfway through the year. Some of the people in the class are juniors or seniors, who need to pass this class in order to graduate, and right now our average grade is about 10%. So yeah.

pxeger

dang

emanresu A

^

pxeger

hopefully they waive it for ECs

emanresu A

yesterday, by ta Radvylf srik su shilani

And if they don't, I'm kinda wondering if not providing us a teacher and then failing all 10-15 of us would be grounds for a lawsuit

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

@GingerIndustries Lyxal's done this with individual pages of the starboard before

GPT-3 can only take so much text as a prompt though, so using all 31k starred messages wouldn't be possible

mathcat

19:07

@GingerIndustries Nobody can beat SE Nitro. he he he. (except Butter. Even Nitro likes Butter)

I am hopeful about the movie, except for the Stickman scene. I have no idea how I could animate it.

Ginger Industries

@mathcat no that was for Latin Saga

@mathcat Butter, eh? Good thing I've got GingerBot then

caird coinheringaahing

@GingerIndustries Oh no, does this mean we have to add "Redwolf's Latin Class" to the TNB wiki?

Ginger Industries

@cairdcoinheringaahing yup

@mathcat so you're telling me it isn't 100% xkcd-style art?

mathcat

19:23

what? no

it's just some animation combined with screen recordings of webpage editing

Ginger Industries

@mathcat nice

well we are all awaiting the movie

Fun fact: The world will end at 11.30 pm ET with the first round of FIFA 16 played over the U.S., Canada and Mexico.

or so says GPT-2

mathcat

But I think i have a good plot

Ginger Industries

@mathcat exciting

mathcat

@GingerIndustries I think FIFA 21 was already released...

Major Plot Hint: It has to do something with this random song I found on the internet

emanresu A

sighs

Ginger Industries

19:36

GPT-2's opinion on the best programming language:

The best programming language is not JavaScript (and that's why I am here), but Javascript.

mathcat

Fact.

⦕ಠ_ಠ⦖⟆. That was the disappointing cat face I was searching days ago.

I'm looking for some fake hate comments on a Sandbox post (for the film). Any ideas?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

What's the relationship between the hater and the hatee?

Is the hate about the sandbox post itself, or more directed toward the OP?

mathcat

@taRadvylfsriksushilani sandbox post

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

"This post would get lots of upvotes in 2013."

mathcat

Super!

thanks

Ginger Industries

19:53

@mathcat hey I made that

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Ugh my laptop's about to die, and this time there's not someone with an extension cord nearby :(

mathcat

@GingerIndustries yeah

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Wait, I see one

emanresu A

It will be a dangerous journey

You will have my sword

mathcat

And you can a cookie: 🍪

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

19:54

Mission successful!

emanresu A

Too late lol

mathcat

Can somebody ping me so that I can read the HTML of the SE inbox?

Ginger Industries

@emanresuA what are you talking about

@mathcat funny message

mathcat

no

not working

hmm... what would be a good way to replicate that

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

You mean being pinged on main?

mathcat

19:58

no

getting an inbox notification

Ginger Industries

@mathcat hM

one sec, I got this

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Go into settings and enable instant notifcations, then have someone ping you here

Ginger Industries

@mathcat leave the room, I'll send you a message

my solution is simpler

mathcat

ok

bye

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Or just wait 15m after being pinged without clicking the green thing, I guess

Ginger Industries

19:59

@mathcat ping test

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

@mathcat pingy ping ping

mathcat

I have to leave all rooms

Ginger Industries

@mathcat guess it worked tho

Peilonrayz is in both this room and the CR main room at the same time

hmmmmmmm

mathcat

@GingerIndustries nope

@taRadvylfsriksushilani i'll try that

Ginger Industries

there is an impostor among us

@mathcat ping

Peilonrayz

20:03

@GingerIndustries Peilonrayz is also a moderator on CR... even more sus

mathcat

kay, last test

Ginger Industries

@Peilonrayz what is going on here

@mathcat ping

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

@mathcat ping

Ginger Industries

don't make us bring out SE Nitro, impostor

mathcat

nvm

Ginger Industries

20:04

uh mathcat

Peilonrayz

I got an invite for Lyaxl, Vyaxl, (IDK you guys name things weird) yesterday... just reopened the tab :)

Ginger Industries

I just asked GPT-2 what SE Nitro can do

caird coinheringaahing

@GingerIndustries Even SE Nitro cannot beat mod powers :P

Ginger Industries

and uh

Se Nitro can:
1. ৈ০৪৭ো০০... ৚০৓ৗਾ৙৒ী... ৒০০০(৭ ো க஼਼্,ৱৗ஼ৱઍ৮৿... ம৯঍నਧ਩... ல১�৕ਜ఩ఢక... ౕధ఍ి਽ు... లౕూ ాతతి(తలౕశీీ లటూଦత ణత෍`త෍`���... ଲ౓ଊଦବଦ... ଲ౅ଚ଺଺଺�

what

caird coinheringaahing

They have a "disable SE Nitro" button on the mod dashboard :P

Ginger Industries

20:05

Things SE Nitro is weak to:
1. GingerBot
2. Moderators

mathcat

@GingerIndustries wow

@cairdcoinheringaahing NO

Ginger Industries

@mathcat that's my second try, the first one was in Chinese

mathcat

YES

I got a message

Ginger Industries

something about POPPER TO PIPIN

pxeger

@mathcat I am simply the best, aren't I

Ginger Industries

20:07

We sent an agent to investigate SE Nitro. This is all we got back.
Se Nitro can:
1. ????.??: ????.?? |???:
2.                       |????: ????????? ??:?:  ???????
3.                       ????.??: ????.??: ????????? ??:   ?       ????????? ????????? |?????:
6.                       ????¤?: ????½?:?????:  ????¤
7.                       ???? ?????: ??????????:  ????¤?
8.                       ???? ?????: ?????: ??????:  ????
9.                       ???? ?????: ????? ??:  ????¤?
10.                       ???? ?????: ????? /??: ?????: ????? : ?????????

It's not very helpful.

mathcat

@pxeger nice, thanks

pxeger

can I delete the comment?

mathcat

yes

Ginger Industries

it doesn't improve either :/

I'd add more but I don't want to flood chat

pxeger

put them in a gist?

Ginger Industries

20:09

@pxeger I am

mathcat

@pxeger Ummm, ctrl-c somehow didn't work, sorry

pxeger

you want another ping?

mathcat

yes pls

Got it, thanks

Ginger Industries

Se Nitro can:
1: ˚·(˚·)-2:
Nitro(o)s =
(o-)nol =
2-oO-nol - 1oOs = O(s)ol = O(O)-ooO
Nitro(o)s o o o o o (œi) s n a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u z w x y z s

" (őo)s n l a b c d e f g h i j k l m n O(s)o =

It seems SE Nitro is a powerful hallucinogenic drug

pxeger

> œi

smells of jelly

Ginger Industries

20:13

it gets better

or worse ig

gist.github.com/GingerIndustries/…

"2D-printed in 3D for better readability!"
yes exactly this makes sense

pxeger

if you want part of it in a quote you need it in two separate messages

> makes the entire message a quote I think

mathcat

okay, i'm 1/4 done with the film

o/

Neil

20:30

@user I have approximately zero friends, except someone I wouldn't say I know that well has helped me quite a lot while I've been recovering from cancer

@Fmbalbuena Slice returns part of an array or string. It's like Python's [:], in that Slice(a) is a[:], Slice(a, b) is a[b:], Slice(a, b, c) is a[b:c] and Slice(a, b, c, d) is a[b:c:d], although the tricky part is making Charcoal use the right number of parameters, and you can't do a[b::c] either, which is annoying

@Fmbalbuena Map evaluates an expression for each element of an array or string; the expression can refer to two additional variables which represent the value and index respectively. The result is always returns as an array; use StringMap if you want the results to be concatenated into a string.

@Fmbalbuena Push simply appends a value to an array.

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Well, Latin II time :/

Ginger Industries

I'm back

@user it's pretty lonely here at the far end of the world

caird coinheringaahing

@user Idk why it feels like bragging to say I have multiple friends irl

Ginger Industries

AntiAntiAntiRickroll

2 days ago, 6 minutes total – 11 messages, 4 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked 2 days ago by Ginger Industries

3

oh yeah, it's all coming together

pxeger

20:46

@GingerIndustries see also:

yesterday, by pxeger

my version of rickblock: https://www.pxeger.com/userscripts/rickblock.js

Ginger Industries

@pxeger cool

pxeger

(did I get you?)

Ginger Industries

I didn't run it, but looking at the code again...
nice try

emanresu A

No, but my email address is [email protected]

Wait, did that ping you?

pxeger

@GingerIndustries you don't need to run the code to get rickrolled

@emanresuA nope

Ginger Industries

20:58

@pxeger I am confused

pxeger

I spent an unreasonable amount of time on that rickroll for it to not work

Ginger Industries

@pxeger ...

pxeger

what browser?

maybe it doesn't work on mobile

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Wouldn't it be easier to just 300 to the rickroll page?

emanresu A

Firefox 95

Ginger Industries

20:59

@pxeger Ã²Ã³²¬¹´¹³¬³³'¬¹¬³¬³¬¹³ v12.44

emanresu A

(Because I don't want background window rendering disabled)

pxeger

@taRadvylfsriksushilani so it works for you? No, because I think it's funnier and more of a jumpscare

Ginger Industries

@pxeger jesus it worked that time

emanresu A

flowers.m4v really?

I opened it and rickrolled myself

pxeger

@emanresuA does it work for you?

emanresu A

21:01

pxeger

@emanresuA lmao I thought the filename might have been an unnecessary touch, but it worked

@emanresuA Is this a problem?

emanresu A

Your <main id="theContainer"> has display:none

pxeger

@emanresuA it's supposed to have that

the onmousedown handler removes it with theContainer.style.display = 'block';

emanresu A

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

@pxeger No, it's blocked for me, but I was assuming you used some sort of autoreload or something

emanresu A

21:03

Oh I see

I didn't click

pxeger

I thought everyone would click on it at least accidentally

damn :(

Javier Moreno Sepena

I have been thinking all day about a question I had in exam. I know intuitevely that it is true, but I am not able to show that a X ~ Binomial n=L, p=1/2, and L~Poisson(lambda), is equivalent to say that X~Poisson(lambda/2)

pxeger

I know it works from a technical perspective, because I tested it

emanresu A

(Btw onpointerdown catches both mouse and touch events)

pxeger

oh I forgot about touchscreen

caird coinheringaahing

21:04

@JavierMorenoSepena Can't you use the tower law to show that?

Javier Moreno Sepena

But that is for Expectation, not for distributions

pxeger

but expectation = lambda for a Poisson distribution

Javier Moreno Sepena

I got stuck, trying to find the marginal for X, after getting f(X,N)

Yeah, but that doesnt proof that X is following a Poisson, just its expectatio no?

caird coinheringaahing

The MGF might work, given that it uniquely identifies the distribution

I literally had my last probability exam last week, I never have to think about it agian, why am I thinking about it? ಠ_ಠ

Javier Moreno Sepena

Hahaha you will never abandon probability

caird coinheringaahing

21:10

deterministic math > all other math

pxeger

@cairdcoinheringaahing but that's only true some of the time!

@emanresuA that doesn't work because videos aren't allowed to play on pointer down

(to prevent autoplay hacks just from scrolling)

emanresu A

True

Fmbalbuena

21:40

0

A: From code to golf (Cops' thread)

!@#$%^&*()_+, 13 bytes * 4 steps = score 52 3130<202(^+@) Try it online!

^ Who can crack?

Fmbalbuena

21:51

Can you post a random message to prevent the deletion?

Useless room

New Posts

22:06

0

Q: Perl: eval a packed hex value passed through any level of ssh

Task Make code given on the command line that takes a hex value as input and evals that in Perl. Like this: perl -e 'eval pack q/h*/,q/072796e6470222458656275672370202d6f62756020222b302072796e6470222478616e60202f6e6560202771697020247f6020246f602029647e2c5e622/' With one more restriction: Your co...

perl

lyxal

22:23

@Peilonrayz hmm yes Vyaxl, my favourite golfing language.

I suppose that makes me lyaxl

Truly wonderful

Peilonrayz

22:38

Oh no... Sorry for saying your name is weird D:

DLosc

I mean... it is weird :D

But then most people's names here are weird.

caird coinheringaahing

@DLosc Weird names? I can't think of an example

DLosc

@cairdcoinheringaahing Well, take mine, for instance. That D-L consonant cluster is really weird. It doesn't even have any good anagrams! =P

lyxal

22:55

@Peilonrayz nah it's fine - it's a result of ipad keyboard mashing anyway

Peilonrayz

@lyxal I've been wondering is Vyxal based on your name? Cause... they're so similar

Unrelated String

yes

Peilonrayz

Oh cool, ty

caird coinheringaahing

In fact, running lyxal in Vyxal has a bit of an easter egg: lyxal.pythonanywhere.com?flags=&code=lyxal&inputs=&…

lyxal

@Peilonrayz I'm that uncreative that I named my esolang the same as my username but with a different first letter :p

Because I really couldn't think of anything better lol

@cairdcoinheringaahing imagine using the old site

Made by vyxal.pythonanywhere.com/#WyIiLCIiLCJseXhhbCIsIiIsIiJd

caird coinheringaahing

23:03

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I search "vyxal" and that's the first interpreter that comes up

lyxal

You should use duckduckgo then

the new site comes up first

Peilonrayz

@cairdcoinheringaahing lol

user

23:27

@Neil That's good to hear (and I hope you're doing okay now)

Neil

@user well, I've done all the chemotherapy (which is really nasty stuff)

user

:(

Neil

I expect to have to do regular tests and scans for the next four years though just to be sure

Fmbalbuena

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help me why this don't work

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Useless room

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