The Nineteenth Byte

Riker

00:00

@cairdcoinheringaahing i really want to make a joke about the current twitter opinion of (mrs.) reagan rn lol

user

Whoa, hold up a minute here, countries aren't responsible for crappy people that come out of them

Riker

but yeah i love ronald 'aids? lmao' reagan too dw

user

@Riker Let's keep our jokes family-friendly :P

caird coinheringaahing

@Riker throat G O A T

Riker

indeed :) (to both i suppose)

New Posts

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Q: AoCG2021 Day 13: Defrag in action!

Part of Advent of Code Golf 2021 event. See the linked meta post for details. The story continues from AoC2017 Day 14. To recap: The disk is a rectangular grid with \$r\$ rows and \$c\$ columns. Each square in the disk is either free (0) or used (1). So far, you have identified the current statu...

caird coinheringaahing

@Riker You can only get aids if your throat game is worse than Nancy, that's the new rule

Riker

:(

caird coinheringaahing

@user No, but we can happily make fun of a country for producing awful people

Riker

also dude now i want in-n-out. i'm flying back home for break in like, 3 days, but i really am craving a groovy burger rn :(

caird coinheringaahing

For example: I will, until the day I die, make fun of the UK for electing BoJo

Riker

00:02

the dining halls on campus are fine and i'll admit to having literally pizza or burgers near exclusively but it just hits different when u got the animal fries :(

@cairdcoinheringaahing bojack horseman notable UK prime minister?????

or is this like, boseph joestar or something like that

caird coinheringaahing

Boris Johnson

I mean, Boseph Jiden

Riker

ahhhh oh yeah i forgot that dude exists

caird coinheringaahing

I wish I could :(

user

You're welcome :)

Riker

false, my burger at in-n-out would never have tomatoes on it. those are an abomination and ketchup is the only good thing they exist for (tomato sauce is on thin ice)

caird coinheringaahing

00:04

@Riker Dining halls seem so weird to me. I'm in a self-catered accom, which means I live off of 2am instant noodles

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing Better to happily make fun than to sadly make fun, I guess

Riker

@cairdcoinheringaahing i'm in a 'you literally can't not get a meal plan freshman year if u live on campus' campus :) i'm assuming they got really really tired of freshman making really awful meal decisions so

caird coinheringaahing

Pretty sure my last meal was a handful of Quality Street, a few Pringles and a pack of instant noodles

@Riker Shit, I've just finalised sorting out accomodation for next year, and I'm basically renting a house with 4 strangers

Riker

huh, those are chocolates? just googled 'quality street'

@cairdcoinheringaahing oh wow, y'all redo housing every semester?? ours is the same housing plan for both semesters

caird coinheringaahing

No joke, I've met these people twice: once when we viewed the house, and then again when we got drunk together the next night

@Riker Next year, not next semester

Riker

00:07

@cairdcoinheringaahing that could be us but u playin (at not being enrolled in an american university)

@cairdcoinheringaahing you do realize its' december 12th (13th, depending on time zone) 2021 right?

there's a lotta next year coming up real soon

caird coinheringaahing

@Riker I tried, alright :P

Riker

lol

caird coinheringaahing

@Riker I know, the housing market here is so fucked that I'm considered "late on the scene" securing a house now

Riker

an internet friend of mine (gaming) might end up transferring to my college in hte fall actually. we'll see how it works out (just convergent evolution as CS majors in the same general area)

@cairdcoinheringaahing oh jesus, I hadn't thought about that. best of luck homie

caird coinheringaahing

I feel sorry for my current flatmates tho, as they haven't even started looking for places, and most places go on to market for twice their advance rates after the new year

@Riker ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I have a room in a house that I can afford, with flatmates who I get on with, so it's solid for me

Riker

00:09

ouch :( have you mentioned that to them?

caird coinheringaahing

I just don't move in until next September

Riker

@cairdcoinheringaahing income from a job or savings?

caird coinheringaahing

Yes and no

Riker

nice

caird coinheringaahing

@Riker I've asked them about their plans, but they consistently say they aren't worried, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Riker

00:10

@cairdcoinheringaahing they are about to experience what the youth of this generation refer to as a 'minuscule quantity of trolling'

caird coinheringaahing

@Riker My dad has done some financial magic meaning that he loans me my housing + tuition, but as a monthly wage so we pay much less taxes on it, and I pay my dad back, rather than paying a bank back

Riker

@cairdcoinheringaahing oh, that's neat. probably more sustainable when tuition isn't measured in the 10s of thousands USD

(google tells me rn it's 1:0.75 for usd:pounds)

caird coinheringaahing

Don't ask me the details, all I know is that I get ~£1000 paid into my account as "Income from XXX Ltd." each month and then I immediately pay off my debts to my school :P

Yeah, tuition is £9250/yr, and accomodation ~£8k

Fmbalbuena

CMC: Implement Random esolang :P

Riker

on one hand, 'wtf'. on the other hand, 'man now i'm sad'

caird coinheringaahing

00:13

It used to be free tuition (like 20 years ago), then got raised to £3k/yr (my cousins, ~4/5 years older than me paid that), and then 4 years ago got raised to £9250/yr

Riker

@Fmbalbuena thats literally just a stack and has no output i think

so that's just 'implement a stack with push and pop(how deep to pop)'

@cairdcoinheringaahing on one hand, 'ok i'm willing to give u inflation' but that does seem like a hike. idk

Fmbalbuena

@Riker Hello, World! program

caird coinheringaahing

My parents were complaining about having to help me through uni, and I had to remind them that a) they got uni for free, and b) they (their generation, not my parents specifically) then turned around and voted to start charging for uni

Riker

i'll make u a deal - you pay my tuition and i'll pay yours :)

caird coinheringaahing

Hmm, I might want to pass on that :P

Riker

00:15

@Fmbalbuena why are some commands only in hte page history not the actual current page

Fmbalbuena

okay so output is wash

Riker

@cairdcoinheringaahing if it makes it any more concerning - the highest merit badge scholarship brandeis offers is 15k pounds/year :)

Fmbalbuena

ok another random page

CMC: Interpret Sea

Riker

hm does anybody on ppcg (besides ais that doens't count) really do problems in undreload? i've looked at it before but never actually looked at how it works

caird coinheringaahing

@Riker All of the places I applied to in the states no longer do merit based scholarships, and base it all on financial situation

Riker

00:17

@cairdcoinheringaahing huh. i only applied for one school so idk how that works out for most ppl

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing I have found some merit based scholarships, but even a few of those need some demonstrated financial need

caird coinheringaahing

Well, idk about anyone else, but I got into NYU, and rejected them after they wanted to charge me $75k/yr for online lectures

Riker

@cairdcoinheringaahing yeah brandeis isnt as much as that but its close, and it's not totally online but i had 1/4 online classes this semester

caird coinheringaahing

I instead settled for a "Maths with a Year Abroad" program, which, assuming I get >70% this year, means I'll spend my third year in either the US or Australia

user

The scholarships that few people apply to require essays or videos or other things that are hard to make, and the lottery-like ones that are more realistic are applied to by a bunch of people so those are hard to get too

How many scholarships did you guys get?

Riker

00:20

@cairdcoinheringaahing yo come to boston

caird coinheringaahing

I think the closest to Boston I can get is Rochester, NY

Riker

@user I didn't really bother applying to many, since i'm just outside of the income cutoff for most of the low income ones (and i'm not quite brown enough for most of hte hispanic/latin@ ones)

caird coinheringaahing

Where I can go depends on what partner unis they have

Riker

ended up only getting the automatic merit-based one that brandeis has (it's a brandeis scholarship not an external one) plus normal need based finaid

caird coinheringaahing

I believe that University of Sydney is an option, which, IIRC, is next door to @lyxal :P

Potentially, I could see Arron plat in person :P

user

00:22

@Riker Oh, that's too bad

What do you mean by "not quite brown enough"? Do they check your skin or something? :P

Riker

@cairdcoinheringaahing yeah but then all the blood goes to your head and you pass out immediatley

user

dw, they've got medication and special suits to mitigate that :P

Riker

@user nah i'm just not culturally latin@ enough to feel ok taking them in the end. i'm around half mexican by blood but there's ppl who need it more than me /shrug

lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing if by next door you mean a few hundred km south, then yes.

user

I feel like either my counselors lied when they told us there'd be plenty of scholarships for everyone to get into college without too much debt or my grades are just not good enough. I choose to blame my counselors :P

Riker

00:24

@user lmfao yeah no that's a lie

user

@lyxal I'm sure that's considered next door in the midwest here :P

Riker

you will have hella debt. great lakes borrower services i get it please stop reminding me via email

lyxal

@user 100 miles / 162km is next door for you?

Riker

100 miles? tha'ts like, a two hour drive?

user

@Riker I would say that's relieving, except...it isn't :P

@lyxal I was joking, because the midwest is so big :P

Riker

00:26

thats like the distance from where i live in CA to jtree, where i semi regularly go camping lmao

user

Feels like you could fit entire countries in there (wait, you can)

lyxal

@user @hyper-neutrino is that true? Did user ever change their username to joking?

Riker

congrats. you've truly achieved the pinnacle of comedy

user

I did not, but why constrain ourselves to antiquated notions of time?

At some point in the future, I shall name myself "joking". All we need to do now is face backwards in time to say I "was" joking

@Riker I have a theory that lyxal became a dad approximately when these jokes started :P

By finding the first such message, I can pinpoint lyxal's kid's birthday. I already know the kid's first name is Rick or something like that :P

totallyhuman

@user you're a bit late for that

user

00:28

wdym?

Riker

oh hey totallyhuman, haven't seen you in yaers

Fmbalbuena

What is Object oriented programming?

user

Object-oriented programming

totallyhuman

jo king?

@Riker hi

i'll be honest, i'm only active as a result of advent :P

Riker

@totallyhuman fair enough

user

00:34

@totallyhuman If you were replying to me, that's how lyxal's joke started

Nov 26 at 20:18, by Jo King

For some reason we get a lot of users attempting to impersonate the mod team (almost always me)

lyxal

The Best Jokes You Can Make About Moderator Names

Sep 30 '20 at 3:15, 5 minutes total – 17 messages, 4 users, 10 stars

Bookmarked Oct 31 '20 at 5:41 by lyxal

user

Off-topic, but cool Python library called Deal that does some static analysis and other stuff through annotations and stuff

caird coinheringaahing

00:53

@lyxal Am I completely misremembering, or aren't you at the University of Newcastle? That's like, 2 hrs drive from Sydney?

lyxal

yes

which is also 162km away

caird coinheringaahing

Of course, Australia is also the size of a continent :P

Riker

isn't it.... literally a continent

or are we calling it a large island

lyxal

caird coinheringaahing

That's a trivial drive

lyxal

00:55

you'd really drive that far to see a plat?

caird coinheringaahing

I'd drive 5 hours minimum to see you wash Aaron :P

lyxal

good.

Riker

is aaron a car or a pet

caird coinheringaahing

Neither

Aaron is a plate

Riker

who tf is aaron then

what

lyxal

00:56

3 people live in my cupboard.

Aug 25 at 0:00, 16 minutes total – 80 messages, 6 users, 5 stars

Bookmarked Aug 25 at 0:18 by lyxal

caird coinheringaahing

Aaroneous Miller, Over Yonder

6k 1 12 32

code-golf string kolmogorov-complexity restricted-source cops-and-robbers number source-layout

Riker

ok then

caird coinheringaahing

Aaron's profile picture looks like a plate that lyxal owns

lyxal

Aug 25 at 0:14, by exedraj

those are the plates IRL

Riker

ah nice

lyxal

01:00

some other relevant TNB memes

hyper-neutrino

no hivemind?

user

Whatever happened to the TNB wiki?

lyxal

@hyper-neutrino the first two are the hivemind

conclusion of that joke btw

nvm wrong link

conclusion of the hivemind

hyper-neutrino

oh

lyxal

and one last series

caird coinheringaahing

01:04

@user I believe it got abandoned, like so many things we try to do as a site :P

user

lol yeah

hyper-neutrino

do fandom wikis expire?

lyxal

no

user

Here it is if anyone's still interested

Fmbalbuena

Meme Meme

33 mins ago, 32 minutes total – 42 messages, 6 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked 6 secs ago by Fmbalbuena

hyper-neutrino

01:06

oh i forgot how to spell the subdomain lol

and i couldn't find it with search engine

lyxal

hey so anyone got any TNB conversations they want gpt-3'd?

user

Yes, why not some of the bookmarks you just linnked?

lyxal

because some of those I've already done

caird coinheringaahing

@lyxal Pick any date, and select the max number of messages from some random time on that day :P

2016 TNB was very different from current TNB, GPT-3 on past-TNB could be super interesting :P

user

I see you made a Vyxal gang category lol

@cairdcoinheringaahing Different in which ways?

Was TNB generally less immature back then?

lyxal

01:09

@cairdcoinheringaahing give random date and I will

caird coinheringaahing

Much less mature

TNB in 2015/2016 was so bad that it got addressed on meta

Fmbalbuena

19584692

user

I find it hard to believe it could be worse than us lol

Riker

no it definitely could be

hyper-neutrino

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A: Should we have additional room owners?

We agree with your concerns and that having additional room owners would help covering both time zones and the volume of posted messages. Effective immediately, we've appointed the following users as room owners of The Nineteenth Byte. Let us thank them for volunteering, and may the odds ...

remember how it took us several months to arrange an RO election?

caird coinheringaahing

01:11

@user It was so much worse

@lyxal 2016-06-15

user

This might be fun @lyxal

hyper-neutrino

the mods at the time ended up appointing five ROs because they couldn't afford to wait even a week or two for an election

caird coinheringaahing

The chatiquette became a thing because of that time in TNB history

user

Huh, only 2 days

Riker

TNB also made it to mother meta for stealth ping abuse back in the day

Fmbalbuena

01:11

Question: what is the min rep of being RO in TNB?

hyper-neutrino

none technically

in theory, you can't be an RO without having 100 rep, but mods can bypass that and make anyone RO

caird coinheringaahing

100rep

Riker

@hyper-neutrino this is the one i remembered first

hyper-neutrino

i 11'd vyxal bot in the vyxal room

caird coinheringaahing

Wait, mods can bypass that requirement?

hyper-neutrino

01:12

although it now has 129 rep :p

Riker

@cairdcoinheringaahing yeah i think it exists for feedbots originally (or that's what i remember from some mod telling me somewhere)

caird coinheringaahing

@Riker Yeah, "We need to talk about chat", and the followup, were the main things that I saw about the problems with TNB in the 2016 era

Riker

maybe also to give RO status in q/a comment derived chatrooms

caird coinheringaahing

Don't try it

Feeds

hyper-neutrino has added hyper-neutrino's sock to the list of this room's owners.

caird coinheringaahing

01:13

@hyper-neutrino no!

You were supposed to be the chosen one! You would bring balance to the ROs!

Riker

pro tip: the proper response to 'lmao mods can do that?' is not 'lmao let's prove it' :P

Feeds

caird coinheringaahing has removed hyper-neutrino's sock from the list of this room's owners.

caird coinheringaahing

get nae-nae'd

hyper-neutrino

ok so I tried to move a message to prove it and uh

it failed because I couldn't talk in the target room

Fmbalbuena

Lol

Riker

01:14

nice

hyper-neutrino

I have outplayed myself

anyway sorry for the disruption I couldn't resist the urge to science :p

Fmbalbuena

@cairdcoinheringaahing 12

user

Not all experimentation is science :P

Riker

@cairdcoinheringaahing i think most of the problematic users stopped after getting suspended. 2017-2018 had really immature ppl i remember but not nearly as abd

lyxal

@user have p fun

caird coinheringaahing

01:16

Fun fact, I was ROed in here before any of the other current ROs, aside from Doorknob (mod) and xnor (in 2016, before I joined the site):

Jan 2 at 2:21, by Feeds

HyperNeutrino has added caird coinheringaahing to the list of this room's owners.

user

@lyxal Nice, thanks!

Fmbalbuena

@lyxal can you do but the first 200 messages?

Riker

@cairdcoinheringaahing i read that as 'in 2016 you were RO'd' and i was like wtf you definitely weren't

llol

lyxal

@Fmbalbuena probably not

Fmbalbuena

@lyxal but why?

lyxal

01:17

word limits

caird coinheringaahing

Oh yeah, in case y'all didn't know, I'm actually cjy in disguise, and have secretly been modding here since 2011

I have a diamond, but its just in white font, so you can't see it

Fmbalbuena

@lyxal okay so the first 50 messages

@user i still don't understand.

Riker

maybe consider doing it yourself? not only lyxal can make gh gists

lyxal

@Riker uh actually, they probably couldn't

user

Oops, I forgot lyxal actually has to process the transcript each time

lyxal

01:20

@Riker I'm autocompleting these with GPT-3

user

I think this is the script to do that

Riker

oh I didn't notice lmfao nevermind me

lyxal

@user ofc I'm using a script

user

@Fmbalbuena It was a joke lol. When someone sends you a link to lmgtfy, it means you could've just googled that yourself

@lyxal No I mean I forgot you couldn't just Ctrl+A the page or sth

otoh it's not too hard to run that so I'm going to be lazy and not provide the processed inputs for you :P

lyxal

I still have to do a bit of culling tho

because of token limits

user

01:22

> PhiNotPi: Alex R "array" A is an array of arrays because he has so many friends... or something, right? ಠ_ಠ

Not GPT's most coherent moment :P

@lyxal Ah, so GPT isn't free yet?

*completely free

lyxal

@user no, it's more that it only lets you have so many words per completion

user

I see

Fmbalbuena

@user can you answer my question?

lyxal

like it only accepts 2048 tokens (which is maybe ~1k maybe a a bit less) at a time

user

@Fmbalbuena No, but I can point you to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object-oriented_programming

lyxal

01:24

@cairdcoinheringaahing I'mma gon need a specific short portion you want done

because there's way too much there to do all at once

caird coinheringaahing

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I just chose a random date, I have no idea what happened then

user

Choose a random set of messages then, let's see if we get comedy gold, boring snippets of code, or comedy heaven material

caird coinheringaahing

@lyxal Take as many messages, starting from this that fit

Fmbalbuena

CMC: think the biggest number

caird coinheringaahing

Let g(f, k, n) represent f(f(...(f(n)) with k iterations of f. Take g(f, TREE(g(64)), TREE(g(64))) where f(x) is TREE(g(x)) and g is the generating function of Graham's sequence, such that g(64) is Graham's number

lyxal

01:31

@cairdcoinheringaahing one moment

here you go

caird coinheringaahing

@cairdcoinheringaahing If my calculations are correct, this is at least larger than 3, and maybe even larger than 7

hyper-neutrino

where did the slash dance come from o.O

caird coinheringaahing

> "Fountain" has anagrams like Foant

Fmbalbuena

@cairdcoinheringaahing or better the biggest finite number that can print in Jelly by just TREE(9)

Unrelated String

slashes and dances in the background

caird coinheringaahing

01:35

Bravo! I am impressed...I didn't even have time to play today.

Unrelated String

> You'd probably be better off saying which letters in particular were good or bad anagrams in that case.

caird coinheringaahing

@UnrelatedString Isn't this just Scrabble?

lyxal

01:47

redwolf letters

Sep 16 at 18:57, 13 minutes total – 46 messages, 4 users, 3 stars

Bookmarked Sep 28 at 19:29 by pxeger

gist.github.com/Lyxal/aaa78a38245c5b7de35b0620d240dc2b

lyxal

01:58

@cairdcoinheringaahing on second thought, you might want to avoid that

we've had a fun little omicron cluster here lately

caird coinheringaahing

Have you seen the covid numbers in the UK?

lyxal

@lyxal 84 cases from a nightclub

@cairdcoinheringaahing no

caird coinheringaahing

I think we're getting ~3000 new Omicron cases a day

coronavirus.data.gov.uk

We're averaging 50k positives a day

lyxal

oof

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah, its so fun ಠ_ಠ

lyxal

02:02

with or without lockdowns?

caird coinheringaahing

Without

Hell, we dont even have mask mandates

lyxal

big oof

user

Oof

lyxal

those end in 2 days here

caird coinheringaahing

The closest thing I have to a mask mandate is that my uni requires them on campus, unless "you're eating, drinking, or distanced from other students"

We're so fucked over here, it's not even funny :/

user

02:07

They were going to discuss dropping mask mandates here before omicron hit

hyper-neutrino

damn, maybe i should be more thankful for how we're handling it over here lol

our uni has a vaccine record mandate

lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing oh boy that don't sound good.

Dang it why do people gotta be so impatient?

like sure we've technically been out of lockdown for two months, but it ends for everyone in 2 days

caird coinheringaahing

all of our socials do ask that you have proof of vaccination or a negative test, but I go to like 2 or 3 a week and have never been asked for proof

user

Enforcement seems to always be pretty lax

I think part of it might be because no one wants conflict with an antivaxxer

Students here often go around without masks and usually, even teachers who see them do anything

One sub got reported for not wearing a mask all day tho, I think someone took a video of him lol

emanresu A

03:10

@Riker Mine's been "anagrammed" for several months :P

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Q: Does Baba Is You belong here?

Introduction Baba Is You is a puzzle game. In this game, a level is a grid that consists of objects and texts, and the objective of the level is to, if there are texts BABA IS YOU and FLAG IS WIN, navigate Baba (a white cat-like creature) to a flag. The fuss is, there are so many variety of possi...

discussion languages

Aaroneous Miller

Is there a way to rejoin starred rooms if you are already in multiple rooms?

@NewPosts VTC as invalid, Baba is a sheep not a cat /s

@lyxal golfed by 1 byte: Try it Online!

It would be golfed by another byte if m didn’t error on 0, clearly that is a vitally important bug to fix

Riker

03:41

@NewPosts good question. i'd argue no, they'd probably belong on puzzling.se instead, tbh

maybe specifically 'solve in min moves'

Unrelated String

that could be conceptually similar to atomic-code-golf but i feel like that's probably still a better fit for puzzling

wait oh the post is for the game as a programming language for existing challenges

that's a really good question

Riker

03:55

oh my bad lmao

Redwolf Programs

04:10

Morning!

It's 22:00 here

But still

PyGamer0

@Fmbalbuena hmmm, lets, see 1+1=2,2+1=3,3+1=4,4+1=5,......., and therefore i conclude that Infinity is big

@RedwolfPrograms oh cool, its morning for me

9:45

@Adám oh

Redwolf Programs

05:18

Well, I'm going to formally rescind a few of my criticisms of 1.18

I still dislike it, and what they did to underwater caves I'll be morning for a little while, but a lot of stuff changed in the snapshots that I wasn't aware of

So although I feel like the new caves are a little unnecessary and I prefer the simplicity of the old ones, I can certainly see the appeal and I don't think those are really worth getting mad over

PyGamer0

wdym the caves are HUGE

CMQ: What should sublists on a scalar return?

Unrelated String

is this contiguous or not

PyGamer0

05:34

?

pxeger

@RedwolfPrograms you can't be morning for too long, because the morning ends at midday!

PyGamer0

ok how are these flax atoms

pxeger

(*mo u rning)

emanresu A

Hint added, it's been two day's and no one's had a crack at it

The Best Jokes You Can Make About Moderator Names

3 people live in my cupboard.

Meme Meme

redwolf letters

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