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Q: AoCG2021 Day 12: Oct's Fool

Part of Advent of Code Golf 2021 event. See the linked meta post for details. The story continues from AoC2017 Day 11. Obligatory why me and not Bubbler link After having rescued a child process lost on a hexagonal infinite grid, you hear someone else screaming for help. You turn around, and uns...

code-golf decision-problem grid

1 hour later…

1:01 AM

13 hours ago, by emanresu A

Fun challenge for anyone who wants to try, I should sleep now

1:30 AM

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Q: Why are golfing languages allowed?

I'm a bit confused about the use of golfing languages in golfing challenges. In the standard loopholes there is a point about using self-made languages that solve the problem in one symbol. And it's a fair point. Golfing challenges lose their purpose if you can just make up a new language for eac...

discussion code-golf languages

caird coinheringaahing

@NewPosts Is "because this is a code golf site" a valid answer? :P

Sure

> Most of them are either self-made or maintained by just a few people

Counterexample: Vyxal

1:55 AM

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Generate the Chess Numbers™ I was browsing Stack Overflow when I saw this post in Puzzling in the hot network questions and decided to make a challenge out of it (all credit goes to the creator of the challenge). Overview A Chess Number is a number that, when converted to base 18, results in a va...

caird coinheringaahing

@emanresuA Depends on your definition of "a few"

Vyxal has what, 6 developers? That's more than most golflangs, but compared to a lot of other programming languages, is "a few" :P

Ooh nice, I just got my 300th bronze badge :P

Redwolf Programs

Vyxal has 6 developers, and 6 times as many bugs :p

caird coinheringaahing

The law of programming development states that the number of bugs is directly related to the number of developers :P

@cairdcoinheringaahing 7-8 lol

caird coinheringaahing

> Alexander Aptekarev proved that at least one of Euler's constant γ and the Euler–Gompertz constant δ is irrational.

I've never understood how mathematicians manage to proof "Either X or Y has this property, but we don't know which", especially when "X" and "Y" aren't that related

It's like how we know that at least one of e*pi and e+pi is transcendental, but not which

Redwolf Programs

2:05 AM

Wdym by "how"? I'd imagine its roughly the same as anything else

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah, more like "why is that your approach/aim?"

Redwolf Programs

E.g., proving that if neither of them were irrational, we'd all die

if trivial pursuit is so trivial, why are we still in pursuit of the guy we're chasing?

caird coinheringaahing

The pursuit is trivial and left as an exercise to the reader

2:35 AM

@cairdcoinheringaahing I see you’re q constructivist (is that the word?) :p

caird coinheringaahing

Absolutely not, existence proofs for the win :P

Its just, I want to know how they took two vaguely related things and went "One of these must satisfy this property", and that was easier than showing that one of them satisfies it, regardless of the other

@RedwolfPrograms okay but we have prettier code mow and our repo looks slightly more professional :p

caird coinheringaahing

"Prove that 4 is even. Well, I can't do that, but I do know that exactly one of either 3 or 4 is even"

Redwolf Programs

@user Ah yes, the two most important parts of any golfing language :p

@cairdcoinheringaahing I assume they just happened upon equations that force that

caird coinheringaahing

2:39 AM

@user I read this as "we have prettier code meow" as was like "Vyxal catgirl language confirmed????" :P

Redwolf Programs

After vyxal 2.x is vyxal :3

2

Perhaps their product is irrational according to sth else, so they knew at least one was irrational, and then some other thing let them know at least one was rational so now they know exactly one is irrational

@cairdcoinheringaahing frick i can’t even edit now 😡

caird coinheringaahing

If Vyxal doesn't have an OwO flag, I'll be disappointed

Redwolf Programs

@user caird had said "at least one is irrational" so part 2 isn't even necessary

Ah

Unrelated String

2:41 AM

or some other relationship where one of them being rational could be used to prove that the other is irrational

caird coinheringaahing

> This result was improved in 2012 by Tanguy Rivoal, who proved that at least one of them is transcendental.

Wait what was the result before if this is the improved obe?

caird coinheringaahing

I'm gonna end up having to read the paper, aren't I?

(Too lazy to wikipedia on mobile)

caird coinheringaahing

@user That at least one was irrational

2:42 AM

Oh wait i forgot there not the same

Redwolf Programs

CMQ: Fortune or silk touch for an axe?

(I already have a pickaxe with each)

I like my axes nonexistent thank you cery much

Redwolf Programs

I made a fortune axe a minute ago, but I'm honestly thinking silk touch might be better for things like bookshelves and melons

caird coinheringaahing

@cairdcoinheringaahing Ok, so they provide 3 recurrence relations u, w, v that are all integer sequences, then examine the asymptotes of δu-γv+w to establish that they cannot both be rational

Aaroneous Miller

3:05 AM

@RedwolfPrograms here's what fortune actually does on an axe. In general, I go with silk touch, as it's more useful to me for axe-related things

^, unless you want large amoounts of melon slices

Aaroneous Miller

^, although if you really want tons of melon slices, you might as well just make an automatic farm

caird coinheringaahing

> Data updated 9 secs ago

Well, I got lucky going on SEDE :P

Aaroneous Miller

3:26 AM

@RedwolfPrograms wdym? there's only... checks github oh.

@AaroneousMiller tbf there's only 2 bugs and 8 enhancement requests

caird coinheringaahing

That's two more bugs than any of my languages have, because in my languages, they're features, not bugs :P

Aaroneous Miller

@lyxal give me half an hour

@cairdcoinheringaahing Theimplementationisthespecification gang unite!

Ooh, we should formally verify vyxal

@user idiot that requires me to "own" the pythonanywhere domain

which I don't

if it was easy, I'd have done it by now

3:37 AM

???

You can still upload/host arbitrary files right tho?

Oh github verification

@emanresuA of course, but it means in the DNS

Oh.

and also then there's this:

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Aaroneous Miller

3:39 AM

wait, we don't own SE chat?

Better fix that

I mean, unless you can figure out how to insert the verification stuff to SE, then not really

@vyxalgang, tine to raid se hq! :p

@lyxal i was joking lol

No, you were user

and the message was in jest too lol

I was rues at one point

You know what, I’m going to change my username to joking so that I can say that i was joking

3:41 AM

Ugh, why is vyx.al so expensive?

caird coinheringaahing

@lyxal If you own chat, maybe there will be some actual developments/improvements to it :P

OTOH, we might start needing flags to use chat :P

@cairdcoinheringaahing No, chat'll end up like this

Aaroneous Miller

@emanresuA beautiful

@emanresuA otoh, vyxal.biz is only $15/year, and vyxal.xyz is only $12/year

vyx.al is 13€/year (?), idk what that translates to

@emanresuA 送actualimprovements

what

i'm impressed with my ability to not notice that before sending

meant to say "so, actual improvements :p" :p

Aaroneous Miller

3:45 AM

@emanresuA about 14.71 USD per year

that's not that expensive, imo

@hyper-neutrino Oh no, it's the double :p

I don’t know if y’all are serious but I would advise against buying a domain for vyxal lol

Aaroneous Miller

y tho

Not the worst use of money but certainly not the best either

@user we might not even have to

we could get people to buy it for us lol

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3:48 AM

Python anywhere is good enough, we don’t need to get verified

It turns you off after three months tho

if you don't click the keep active button

@lyxal i doubt anyone would sponsor a golflang lol, and it’d feel weird to use other people’s money

@user people for some reason buy NFTs, so someone would surely sponsor us lol

Like it wouldn’t be a terrible idea but i just don’t want people spending their money on unnecessary stuff

3:51 AM

sell vyxal elements as NFTs

6

True genius

@hyper-neutrino "hey did you use my NFT in your vyxal answer? not cool man. delete it or I'll sue"

Aaroneous Miller

Vyxal's switching to pay-to-win

“Sorry I saw a vyxal solution to this but i can’t copy it and send it to you because it contains an nft”

@AaroneousMiller you can only use 5 bytes and after that you have to wait half an hour for the byte meter to refill. But you can spend 69 gems to get unlimited bytes for an hour

3:53 AM

@AaroneousMiller Unlock our professional plan to get the full dictionary , symbolic math, and more! Only $5 a month!

Aaroneous Miller

@user that's where the domain budget comes from

@user that implies that free users only get the least commonly used words in the dictionary lol

Additional features ($3 each): recursion, digraphs, longer timeout

@lyxal Isn’t that how freemium works? :p

@user you can also watch an ad to get 3 free layers of recursion to use for a single program

@user and for an extra $9.99, you can read the documentation!

We should add a memer discount though: sebd us a good meme or rickroll us to gain access to certain paid features!

@lyxal Wait if vyxal is closed source and docs are paid how do free users even use it lol

3:58 AM

@user via YouTube videos

caird coinheringaahing

@lyxal Just start a "When Vyxal wins" version of a swear jar: whenever Vyxal beats a Jelly, Husk or 05AB1E answer, the loser has to donate $1 :P

For $100 a month, you get tech support from lyxal himself

Aaroneous Miller

> sweat jar

3

i do not like that typo

Unrelated String

could be worse

caird coinheringaahing

3:59 AM

I don't know what you're talking about

i'll just refrain from asking

@cairdcoinheringaahing See that way we’ll lose a lot depending on who’s competing

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino ~~Just google "2 girls 1..."~~ :P

wait how do you typo that from swear tho

@emanresuA fewer letters = more money

4:01 AM

For $300, the entire vyxal team comes over to your home, you get to rickroll them, they solve your math homework in vyxal, and then they give you personalized golf suggestions

@user NO.

@user that'd have to cost $6969 though to cover flights

^

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino t is next to r on a keyboard

@cairdcoinheringaahing ?

@lyxal 69420 would be even nicer

4:02 AM

I was asking about what Unrelated String meant by "could be worse" lol - ik how you typo swear → sweat

@user I've never seen it myself, but I strongly recommend you don't

or rather, I was not asking about that

Lol ok

Every day i come upon more things I’m told not to google

caird coinheringaahing

@lyxal At this point, I think it's so much of a meme that people know vaguely what it is without actually being exposed to it

Which is a good thing :P

I wonder what features a paid version of languages like Python or JAVA or Java would have

Redwolf Programs

4:11 AM

@lyxal I'm pretty sure user's talking about "formal verification" as in using proofs describing the intended behavior to verify the program works as intended

(I've never really gotten the point of formal verification though, if you have a language that you can write the intended behavior in with sufficient confidence it doesn't have bugs, just transpile that instead of checking it against something else you've written)

Yeah but I wasn’t being serious anyway

Aaroneous Miller

for the memes

Redwolf Programs

> Buy a Coffee for Vyxal

@RedwolfPrograms that’s the thing, the cost of doing it is far too high

Redwolf Programs

Vyxal doesn't need coffee, it's already Hyper(Neutrino)

Aaroneous Miller

4:16 AM

the neutrino is hyper, but the rest of Vyxal could use some caffeine

At least until a language with built in support for verification becomes mainstream

Redwolf Programs

I just don't see why it makes the issue any better, since you still have to write the intended behavior without bugs, just a second time

Code is a way to describe your intent to the computer. If you fail at that the first time, who says you'll do it right the second?

Aaroneous Miller

@RedwolfPrograms For a second I thought you were gonna say that you donated lol

caird coinheringaahing

@AaroneousMiller If you buy a coffee for Vyxal, who drinks it?

All of us!

Redwolf Programs

4:18 AM

All the vyxal contributors fly to Australia and share it

Aaroneous Miller

@cairdcoinheringaahing all of us

Redwolf Programs

With a bunch of straws in one coffee cup

caird coinheringaahing

Time to donate a tiny espresso then :P

Everyone gets 1/8 of a shot of espresso each :P

Redwolf Programs

They'll just use one of those eyedropper things to measure out a few mL for everyone :p

@RedwolfPrograms why Australia? Afaik three of us are in North America so that’s where vyxal hq should be

Redwolf Programs

4:20 AM

But lyxal's 80% of the language's name

caird coinheringaahing

A single espresso is ~30ml, so each contributor gets ~4ml each :P

Redwolf Programs

Let's just average y'all's location in 3d space. The meeting will be in the earth's mantle.

@emanresuA not me, i hate coffee unless it’s cold and has 9 sugars in it and then i just get high and get a headache

@RedwolfPrograms hmm maybe let’s use a different coordinate system :p

Spherical coordinates are safer :p

Redwolf Programs

Okay fine, we'll use lat/lon. Have fun swimming out to the middle of the atlantic ocean :p

Actually, probably the pacific

That’s fine, we can meet on a boat

Redwolf Programs

4:23 AM

Just do it in hawaii

That doesn’t sound terrible lol (aside from the whole meeting people and sharing coffee bit)

Redwolf Programs

Kona, Hawaii apparently has really good coffee

Do it there

(I tried it when I was there but it just tasted like coffee lol)

Aaroneous Miller

@user implying that the meeting a plate part doesn't sound terrible either

Perhaps a better island to meet on would be Java. Very symbolic

@AaroneousMiller plats are cool

Aaroneous Miller

@user I approve this message

Redwolf Programs

4:26 AM

Conquer an island and make Vyxal a nation-state

:)

but wouldn't that come with a .vy domain ending

rather than .al

Redwolf Programs

No, just make .al your country code

@RedwolfPrograms we shall conquer java, kotlin, ceylon, and Britain then

Redwolf Programs

(You'll have to conquer albania while you're at it)

4:27 AM

but isnt everything conquered by Netherlands?

@RedwolfPrograms smh we’d make it .69

@PyGamer0 time to defeat the nether dragon or whatever then

but netherlands have conquered 2 planets!

Wut

Aaroneous Miller

relevant xkcd

i was about to post that lol

Aaroneous Miller

4:28 AM

ninja'd

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Aaroneous Miller

also relevant xkcd

oh reverse ninja'd

now you got ninja'd

Aaroneous Miller

ninja'd ur ninja

you ninja'd me again

4:29 AM

Oh lol

but ngl Netherlands are OP

oh also i brought How to and What if from Amazon

ninja'd netherlands

6 mins ago, 2 minutes total – 16 messages, 3 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked 6 secs ago by PyGamer0

4:47 AM

Me: restarts computer

Computer: bsod

Aaroneous Miller

oof

5:09 AM

I haven’t actually had a bsod in quite a long time

Idk if windows has gotten better or I’m just lucky

I’m always confused when people talk about the frequent bsods on windows

5:55 AM

@lyxal i dont remember if i had a bsod when i crashed my computer because c memory leaks

3 hours later…

9:11 AM

@cairdcoinheringaahing how does quicks work internally? What does the condition and quicklink in attrdict mean?

caird coinheringaahing

@PyGamer0 So, first things first, ignore the hypers dict. That's a remnant of old Jelly that Dennis never got around to converting into quicks. Second, when parsing, if the parser encounters a quick, it goes "right, I need to group the links before until a condition is met". Typically, that's a len(links) == n check, meaning that a quick only thinks about the n links before. The other common one is links and links[0].arity, meaning "keep adding links until you find a monad/dyad"

That's what condition is: it tells the parser at what point it should stop looking for more links to group. quicklink is just the call that takes in this group of links, along with the rest of the program for the "call the line above" quicks, and turns them into a link, done as a [attrdict(arity = x, call = func)]

where is the link splitting logic?

caird coinheringaahing

How do you mean?

@cairdcoinheringaahing oh

@cairdcoinheringaahing the part which parses the links

If you mean how atoms/quicks/literals are split up, the "parser" is regex spaghetti.

9:18 AM

oh the one at the end of the file

caird coinheringaahing

parse_code, which relies on a bunch of complicated regex

The regex tokenises the given code, parse_code then parses it, turning it into a list of a list of a list of links

ok

whats the difference between dyadic_link & dyadic_chain

is the chain the one which applys atoms to the arguments?

You can't parse HTML with regex but you can parse Jelly with regex, therefore Jelly != HTML

why cant you parse html with regex?

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A: RegEx match open tags except XHTML self-contained tags

You can't parse [X]HTML with regex. Because HTML can't be parsed by regex. Regex is not a tool that can be used to correctly parse HTML. As I have answered in HTML-and-regex questions here so many times before, the use of regex will not allow you to consume HTML. Regular expressions are a tool th...

It gets good towards the end

caird coinheringaahing

9:25 AM

@PyGamer0 So, if you have a chain that's dyadic (either because it was passed two arguments, or it's explicitly dyadic with ɓ or ð), then it's broken down into Jelly's "patterns" by dyadic_chain. Each pattern in dyadic_chain calls dyadic_link with the atom and arguments, and dyadic_link operates on a single link. That's where the vectorisation happens

In short, dyadic_link takes in a single link and 2 arguments, while dyadic_chain takes in a chain and two arguments, and then dyadic_chain breaks down the chain into its links and calls those through dyadic_link

I will say, trying to make sense of the Jelly interpreter is a difficult challenge, even if you're competent with Jelly's chaining rules and how multiline, multichain programs work. If you aren't that familiar, it's going to be difficult to make sense of it

10:00 AM

TIL base64 = swift

CMQ: For head, tail, except head, except tail, what should it do when passed a scalar?

91 revisions lol

poor unused symbols

10:19 AM

@PyGamer0 convert to list of digits and go from there

so it becomes, return 1, return x, return 2...x, return 1...x-1

ez to add

I more meant return digits[0], digits[-1], digits[1:], digits[:-1]

Oh

done

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10:39 AM

You what.

Can't believe I'm being beaten by 3 tacit languages in terms of code quality by a single rank.

caird coinheringaahing

@lyxal PyGamer is just flaxing their coding skills :P

in Vyxal, Dec 9 at 4:35, by lyxal

Can't believe we're being beaten by 2 tacit languages by a single rank

They just made it 3 :(

10:57 AM

lol

in Vyxal, Dec 9 at 5:48, by PyGamer0

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dont worry @lyxal it would be B when i finish the first version

2 hours later…

1:00 PM

Protip: use a language where no human or AI can judge your code

1:43 PM

examples of such languages?

~~apl~~

2:10 PM

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Q: Amogus is kinda sus ngl

Meme culture + code-golf makes this challenge! Your goal is to generate the following output in as little code as possible: amogus is seriously sus ngl amogus is seriously sus ngl amogus is seriously sus ngl amogus is seriously sus ngl amogus is seriously sus ngl amogus is seriously sus ngl amogu...

code-golf code-challenge kolmogorov-complexity

2:27 PM

@PyGamer0 I will judge your apl code

2:40 PM

@Razetime provided i write apl programs

@Razetime Whoa there, no need to be so uppity and judgmental

3 hours later…

5:31 PM

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Q: Generate an algorithm with a maximal computational complexity with a minimal code size

In this question, the goal of your answer is to design an algorithm with as large time complexity as possible, in as little time as possible. It doesn't actually have to do anything useful, its only goal is to have an extremely large worst-case time and/or space complexity. For all I care, it cou...

code-golf code-challenge restricted-complexity

6:18 PM

I just got my Windows computer to talk to an Android phone over Bluetooth after wrangling with some code that did that but only for Linux computers. It felt so rewarding to see "Error: Missing field from data entry\nDisconnected from <phone mac>"

Even an error is just better than not having any connections at all

@PyGamer0 C and APL are the only languages I know of where you can actually win a competition based on humans judging your code (as opposed to your results).

caird coinheringaahing

6:34 PM

@Adám The popularity-contest tag would like a word :P

@cairdcoinheringaahing … with prices.

caird coinheringaahing

Are you really just going to devalue arbitrary internet points like that? :P

I would like to see an actual competition where people aim to create the most elegant code in any language to do a task though

Well, isn't the IOCCC's only prize the announcement? If so, then only APL remains with any tangible prizes.

echo Hello, World!

@cairdcoinheringaahing Agreed. But then I would want languages competing against each other.

6:37 PM

@Fmbalbuena Hello, World!

caird coinheringaahing

@Adám I think in that context, languages competing makes more sense, as it's very easy to write more elegant C than Jelly, and vice versa

Unfortunately, elegance is so subjective :(

\o/ string silver badge :D

@cairdcoinheringaahing but can you show the link?

caird coinheringaahing

codegolf.stackexchange.com/help/badges/106/string?userid=66833?

@cairdcoinheringaahing yes.

caird coinheringaahing

@emanresuA However, you can parse HTML with Jelly

6:45 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing silver? how quaint. (OK, so I'm only the 3rd gold string tag badge holder of 14...)

caird coinheringaahing

@Neil In my defence, you have 3 years headstart on me, and 5.7 times the number of answers :P

(while I was there I was randomly wondering which badge I'm up for next, and it's the silver random badge, for which I need the one upvote)

@Neil You have the most answers on the site

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caird coinheringaahing

@Neil New site rule: people can only upvote deterministic programs from now on :P

7:00 PM

It's fine, all our random answers are really pseudorandom anyway :P

caird coinheringaahing

\o/ I have officially done 1000 edits

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@cairdcoinheringaahing Huh, I've done 155

Wait how am I second this year?

caird coinheringaahing

When do I get a second Copy Editor badge? :P

Do those stack?

caird coinheringaahing

@emanresuA Because most of the editors ahead of you are no longer active

@emanresuA No (Martin only has one for example, but has ~1600 edits)

7:11 PM

> emanresu A ... 18,608 total reputation 18,713 year reputation

Oh. (asking 'cos steward does)

@tjjfvi Blame bounties or whatever

Uhhh, did you have negative reputation last year?

Ah

@tjjfvi I actually have 18,788 :p

caird coinheringaahing

@tjjfvi No, it doesn't count the association bonus of 101 rep in the "rep earned this year" thing IIRC

@cairdcoinheringaahing There's still a difference of 4...

7:13 PM

shouldiblamecaching.com

caird coinheringaahing

I see 18687 and 18788

o/

1 hour later…

8:20 PM

Is it blasphemy to use sequence for challenges related to sequences but which don't ask you to actually implement that sequence?

caird coinheringaahing

Because sequence often implies the standard sequence I/O rules, if you do, I'd suggest making it extra clear what the I/O should be

8:38 PM

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Please mind the gap code-golf sequence arithmetic Given any three of the first four terms in an arithmetic sequence in unknown order, calculate the missing one. For example, considering the sequence 24 26 28 30 ...: if you are given 24 28 30, you should output 26. Given 30 24 26, output 28. You w...

caird coinheringaahing

@SandboxPosts Dupe?

:(

I didn't bother checking for a dupe because I thought it was clearly unique enough

caird coinheringaahing

Sorry :( It seemed familiar, but couldn't find anything with "blank" or "gap", and "arithmetic sequence" just searches posts tagged with arithmetic sequence

9:18 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing yo i'm weirdly high, huh

caird coinheringaahing

You're literally the third person on the site to get the Copy Editor badge :P

wait i have that? huh

wow, I didn't bother clicking and just kinda assumed copy editor was for 1000. my reading comprehension is not the best today, i'm afraid

caird coinheringaahing

Also, the Editors page is so weird when it comes to numbers of edits. According to my profile, I've only edited 802 posts. WW, who is listed as having 606 edits doesn't have Copy Editor (500 edits) because his profile reports 385 posts edited

wonder if self-edits count for the editors badge, but not your profile?

caird coinheringaahing

And, if you click the "posts edited" thing on your profile, it takes you to the revisions tab, which (for me) lists "1,984 Revisions"

@Rɪᴋᴇʀ Tag edits count towards the Editor user leagues, but not the badges

9:24 PM

ah, interesting. i feel like there's no way WW has edited as many tags as other posts almost tho

caird coinheringaahing

Huh, Editors tab also tracks self-edits

But that seems off, because there's no way that the total number of self edits + tag edits I've made is only 200

spaghetti code smh

10:08 PM

@NewPosts I swear that wasn't me lol

caird coinheringaahing

> So that's 652 identical lines? – Neil 7 hours ago

Yep... 652 because ord("A") + ord("M") + ord("O") + ord("G") + ord("U") + ord("S") = 652 – Binary198 5 hours ago

CMC: Output 652. Your code must contain AMOGUS (case insensitive) as a contiguous substring

jelly: amogus- 652

because u deletes the chain kekw

caird coinheringaahing

What in the frickety frack does s- do? :P

@cairdcoinheringaahing Wait, that's not even true: Try it online!

Needs to be lowercase (and saves a byte over @hyper-neutrino's approach): Try it online!

oh wait

idk why i didn't just like, consider the origin of the number in my approach

codepage index string wouldn't work here would it

`amogus`C∑ in Vyxal

10:17 PM

“amogus‘S for -1 byte over caird

caird coinheringaahing

Try it online!

because codepage index string does work

caird coinheringaahing

Very nice, I should remember that trick for ASCII + O approachs

@cairdcoinheringaahing Welp Python: # AMOGUS \n print(652)

@cairdcoinheringaahing I have a better version: kSC½3/₀d-›

Push the impostor to the stack, get its character code and do stuff to it to make it 562

caird coinheringaahing

10:20 PM

> Your code must contain AMOGUS (case insensitive) as a contiguous substring

Ignoring that, it's much better

Besides, the name of kS is amogus

So it kinda counts

@cairdcoinheringaahing this count?

caird coinheringaahing

Nope, that's an imposter submission :P

bah humbug

10:55 PM

@riker gosh fricking dang it. You and your stupid profile link.

I got gamed on

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