The Nineteenth Byte

12:03

@Razetime Because it was the first language I made. There's a reason it isn't on TIO and basically every other one of my languages is

Razetime

soo dude, are we just supposed to work with the existing interpreter for the bounties

Dude coinheringaahing

@Razetime Each command has 9 possible meanings. It runs every single possible meaning a program could have, then compares the output to the provided output sample and chooses the meaning based on that

Razetime

what?

Dude coinheringaahing

@Razetime Yeah, basically.

Razetime

i thought it was just simple stack based

no winder it's in the 100 category then

Dude coinheringaahing

12:06

Nope. += has 81 different things it can mean, and it figures that out based on the I/O you provide :P

It's very slow

Razetime

what in the world

beginner language implementer caird was mad ambitious

Dude coinheringaahing

That was made Last year

I also think it uses a 5 bit code page

Razetime

oh god

it just keeps getting worse

Dude coinheringaahing

The trick to language making is to assume no one will ever use your language :P

Razetime

@Dudecoinheringaahing and then make bounties on them to torture people

Dude coinheringaahing

12:11

Yeah, the problem with that trick is that I like it when people use my languages :P

WTF autocorrect, why are you like this

Bubbler

12:33

TIB 2.0 is coming soon, with several features you've never imagined for an online interpreter

PyGamer0

> TIB 2.0

what is TIB

try in ..

browser?

Bubbler

Yes

rak1507

Cool

Bubbler

Because it literally runs code within your browser, no server-side job involved

ngn

@Bubbler how does that work? who's making it?

will it be able to run all languages supported by tio?

Bubbler

12:41

@ngn I'm making it. The core is written in Rust (compiled to wasm), and every language is supposed to be also written in Rust

which means it is impractical to run something like C, Python, or JS

(though there's RustPython, which also means there's a small chance that I can actually support Python and langs written in Python)

rak1507

or reimplement python in rust, how hard can it be really :P

last time I looked rustpython couldn't do everything but maybe it's better now

Bubbler

Anyway my current aim is to make it work, and then add a few well-known esolangs and my own lang(s)

rak1507

nice

Bubbler

and a lesser known one I always hoped to have an impl for

ngn

@Bubbler c can be compiled to wasm too

and anything that goes through llvm really

Bubbler

12:53

I just chose Rust just because I became a fan of it (and its browser interop support is insanely good)

PyGamer0

now i have made the parser (after rewriting the whole project)

Bubbler

Actually the entire frontend is written in Rust

PyGamer0

['def', 'grid', ['reshape', 'x,x', ['range', ['**', 'x', 2]]]]

Bubbler

@PyGamer0 Oh nice

vyxal

does this SEDE query work for anyone else?

okay nvm it does

hyper-neutrino

13:02

@Dudecoinheringaahing should we just put it on Thursday then

also CMM, should we get a chatbot to post the routine messages for bmg (so not copying over the challenges, but like posting the announcement for voting and for bmg starting or whatever)

user

@Bubbler Can you make ut work with CPython if tou can get it to compile to wasm?

vyxal

@hyper-neutrino For something that only happens every two weeks? Probably not.

user

@hyper-neutrino idts

vyxal

@user Inventory of Drug-Taking Situations? ;P

user

Shhh :P

PyGamer0

13:13

Imagine this: You find a dead animal. What do you do?

vyxal

depends.

what animal? where have I found it? did I cause its death? would selling it be profitable because capitalism?

see, you need to specify the situation a little more ;p

Jo King

yeah, am i hungry or what?

vyxal

that's something to consider too

Dude coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Yeah, that should work

hyper-neutrino

okay (reply to all three pings)

vyxal

13:18

@PyGamer0 and further, what time of day is it? where was I heading when I found it? does it belong to someone? am I going to be liable for damages? do I need to hire a lawyer to defend me in civil court? was PETA watching when it died? is this actually a prank video and I'll be going on the youtubes?

henceforth, I conclude that your question needs to be VTC'd as unclear

PyGamer0

13:35

@vyxal ok it is night time

you were heading to your school

it belongs to nature

no you are not liable for damages

yes you need to hire a lawyer

Dude coinheringaahing

@vyxal Because I want to contribute to your programming moral decline even more, flag idea for Vyxal: find the smallest positive integer such that the program is true (either starting at 1 or at the TOS, creator's choice)

PyGamer0

no peta was not stalking you

no it is not a prank video

the animal in question is a buffalo

yes selling it is a dumb idea

you did not cause its death

also you are beside a forest know for its tigers

wow thats a lot

now answer @vyxal

vyxal

Why tf am I going to uni at night when I can just do it at home?

Jo King

yeah, going to school is just getting out of bed at sitting at my desk

vyxal

Still, if I'm not technically liable for anything, I'd move it out of the way for others and keep on going to uni at night despite the fact that I don't actually go to uni at night because I don't have night classes and that everything is online anyway because we are currently in the middle of a pandemic

Aaron Miller

13:42

if he didn't cause the animal's death, is the lawyer thing unrelated to the animal thing?

hyper-neutrino

you'd just casually take an entire buffalo and just move it? lol

how strong are you

vyxal

@hyper-neutrino s/move/somehow push it over off to the side

ngn

@PyGamer0 you didn't specify if vyxal is hungry

or horny

PyGamer0

@ngn ok he is not hungry

hyper-neutrino

@ngn ...

vyxal

13:44

@ngn ಠ_ಠ

That's a sentence I didn't need to read

PyGamer0

@vyxal you are going to rob the school :p (and get their amd ryzen 9 processors)

Aaron Miller

@PyGamer0 But what about the lawyer? That detail seems important.

vyxal

@PyGamer0 bold of you to assume we have those

ngn

@vyxal sorry :)

Dude coinheringaahing

@ngn Pretty sure humans (or programming languages) don't have horns ;)

Aaron Miller

13:58

so meta that they span multiple chatrooms.

PyGamer0

14:17

CMC: Append a space and :P to the end of the input 90% of the time.

^ Name of the challenge: Simulate @Dudecoinheringaahing 's messages

user

lmao

@vyxal You haven't answered the question

Aaron Miller

38 mins ago, by vyxal

Still, if I'm not technically liable for anything, I'd move it out of the way for others and keep on going to uni at night despite the fact that I don't actually go to uni at night because I don't have night classes and that everything is online anyway because we are currently in the middle of a pandemic

user

Ah

Aaron Miller

@PyGamer0 Vyxal RMṡ, 7 bytes: Try it Online!

PyGamer0

51AC8, 5 bytes: 1+1+1 the button started working‽

please run the code and tell if the button stops after running

hyper-neutrino

14:26

wdym by "the button stops after running"

i still need to click "stop" manually for it to output

Aaron Miller

No, it's still doing the thing

ninja'd

PyGamer0

@hyper-neutrino earlier you had to press the button twice

hyper-neutrino

also why does that even work isn't 51AC8 a stack-based language?

@PyGamer0 i still do

PyGamer0

bruh

try it again

hyper-neutrino

nope, still need to

PyGamer0

14:28

for me it suddenly started working

@hyper-neutrino you will never know

Aaron Miller

@PyGamer0 ooh, I like that CMC button. we should implement something like that in the Vyxal interpreter

Redwolf Programs

Risky is such a counterintuitive language...1+1 is 2, and 1+1+1 is 1 :p

PyGamer0

i copied from it oof

@AaronMiller vyxal has that

hyper-neutrino

not really

it has copy as CGCC post and copy as a "Try it Online!" link

Aaron Miller

The vyxal one just does the link, it doesn't do the markdown and stuff

dangit, ninja'd again

Dude coinheringaahing

14:30

@PyGamer0 Jelly, 10 bytes ;9XỊ¤¡“ :P

hyper-neutrino

vyxapedia/jelly-tutorial, on the other hand, have that, so the CMC link produces this:

Vyxal, 2 bytes: kH (Try It Online!)

(the reason I don't link the code itself is because sometimes that looks weird especially with jelly's underdots

PyGamer0

@hyper-neutrino oh

@hyper-neutrino it works as i lookahead for any incoming vehicles so an accident Doesnt happen

user

CMC: You remember that JavaScript challenge where you had to string a bunch of keywords together, and the scoring was with the most unique keywords? That, but for Java.

I have 20 currently (spoilers)

PyGamer0

CMonsterC: Do something.

user

Brownie points if you use yield

@PyGamer0 I just typed this message. What do I get?

Redwolf Programs

14:45

@PyGamer0 printf "Redwolf Programs is the best CGCC user" > /etc/motd

PyGamer0

@user nothing you have to write a program

@RedwolfPrograms you get nothing specify the language

:p

Redwolf Programs

Bash + printf

user

@PyGamer0 Fine, Scala: `` (empty program)

Dude coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms Redwolf Programs is a weird way to spell Dude coinheringaahing :P

PyGamer0

ok

user

14:46

@RedwolfPrograms Since I am the only CGCC user, I am the best CGCC user

PyGamer0

@user not interesting you get nothing

user

bruh

Aaron Miller

@PyGamer0 doEverything, 15 bytes: doEverything();

Redwolf Programs

@user Are you sure about that?

Aaron Miller

Clearly those are all sockpuppets

user

14:48

Okay, but there's a lot fewer lowercase users, and they all have 0 rep, so I'm better than them

Redwolf Programs

Well not 0 rep, 0 monthly rep :p

user

Yes, I have more monthly rep, so I am better for the month :P

PyGamer0

@AaronMiller you get a point

ruse

I agree that user is the best user!

PyGamer0

@RedwolfPrograms you also get a point

user

14:49

@ruse Why thank you, ruse

PyGamer0

wait ruse looks the same as user

Redwolf Programs

I was about to say that ruse backwards is user, then I realized I'm an idiot

I am a person

alt maybe

PyGamer0

therefore i conclude that ruse is the alt of user

I am a person

@RedwolfPrograms lol I was thinking the same

ruse

14:50

@user No problem, user. I love all of your answers and I worship you everyday

I am a person

wait what

:hmm:

Aaron Miller

@PyGamer0 :D

user

@PyGamer0 lol was that not clear already?

PyGamer0

@RedwolfPrograms lol same

user

It's literally an anagram, and a ruse is a trick

Gold Farmer Sprow

14:52

I wouldn't know what an anagram is

user

Anagram sockpuppets unite!

PyGamer0

wow many people are there in this chat room

Dude coinheringaahing

@PyGamer0 That's the ruse they want you to fall for - user is a sockpuppet of ruse

PyGamer0

@Dudecoinheringaahing oh

ruse

@GoldFarmerSprow My sock's name is better than yours :P

Gold Farmer Sprow

14:53

My sock's name is quite good. Redwolf Programs even sounds like a real person!

ruse

Well, user makes it very clear to people that my sock is a real user

rak1507

my sock is so convincing no one's even figured it out yet

ruse

Your sock sounds like an animal and not a person

PyGamer0

ok so therefox i conclude that @user is the alt of @ruse and Life is Life (text in bold is my little brother's quote)

ruse

@rak1507 Lemme guess, you're Adám! :P

rak1507

14:54

foiled :P

Redwolf Programs

I'm half tempted to log in as redwolf10105 too and my mesa-socks can fight :p

ruse

Sock battle! Who's in?

PyGamer0

@RedwolfPrograms didnt you lost the password in a forest?

Redwolf Programs

I'm technically a sock of redwolf10105, since that was my original account :p

ruse

Always knew it! Imma flag you now :P

PyGamer0

14:56

i am gonna reveal myself : i am an alt of someone in this chat room

user

wasif?

I am a person?

PyGamer0

@user no he is not online

user

Frowny Frog? AMDG?

PyGamer0

no

user

Who's your sock then?

PyGamer0

14:57

ask them

@user left to you to figure out

Redwolf Programs

pxeger?

You've got a bit of an unusual activity graph, which is quite similar to pxeger's

user

I doubt it

Dude coinheringaahing

@PyGamer0 New Posts?

user

Which timezone are you in, if you don't mind my asking?

Gold Farmer Sprow

It seems to me that they're just making that up :p

user

15:01

tjjfvi? m90? totallyhuman?

PyGamer0

@user +5½

of gmt

Aaron Miller

@Dudecoinheringaahing You're thinking of me. I'm a sock of Vyxal Bot.

Dude coinheringaahing

But Vyxal Bot is a sock of hyper's, so clearly you're also a sock of hyper :P

Redwolf Programs

@AaronMiller You know what happens to Vyxal Bot around here, run while you still can :p

Aaron Miller

@RedwolfPrograms But I'm a sock's sock, not a bot :p

user

15:04

I'm now imagining someone wearing two layers of socks instead of socks and then shoes :P

PyGamer0

what if

i am everyones alt

@user and another shoe on top of that

Aaron Miller

@PyGamer0 No, the socks go over the shoes like a normal person, obviously.

user

@AaronMiller Are you Superman? :P

Aaron Miller

@user No, that's my sock

Redwolf Programs

So you wear superman over your shoes?

Aaron Miller

15:12

@RedwolfPrograms Exactly, now you're getting it :p

Redwolf Programs

Wait no, superman wears you over his shoes and you wear superman within your second layer of socks

Wait, I wonder if you can reply to a message that hasn't been posted yet, without editing, if you know the message ID beforehand

Aaron Miller

:thonk:

Redwolf Programs

Not going to try though, it's painful enough to reply to your own message

Dude coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms No, that won't work

Aaron Miller

@AaronMiller Why not?

Dude coinheringaahing

15:14

SE turns it into a reply if it's a message already posted in this room. Otherwise, it's just a message that begins with : and a number

Aaron Miller

oh

sadge

Dude coinheringaahing

CMC: Given a letter (that isn't j or k), output the smallest non-negative integer that has that letter in the spelling of that integer in English: reddit.com/r/technicallythetruth/comments/oxlysj/…

rak1507

probably a mathematica builtin for it :P

Adám

@Dudecoinheringaahing What should we return for b?

Dude coinheringaahing

1000000000 = 10^9

user

15:31

@RedwolfPrograms This does not put good images in my head

Adám

@Dudecoinheringaahing That's a milliard ;-)

Dude coinheringaahing

Isn't that a duck? :P

hyper-neutrino

no, you're thinking of mallard. milliard is a type of tabletop game also known as pool

Dude coinheringaahing

no, you're thinking of billiards. milliard is a type of seeded grass

Adám

1⁄1000 of a plough.

Dude coinheringaahing

15:50

Are you aware how many catgirls you just killed? — Euphoric Feb 21 '14 at 9:07

dzaima

@Dudecoinheringaahing Canvas, 37 bytes (damn haven't used canvas in a while)

user

@dzaima Is that one of your languages?

dzaima

@user yeah

(as the name implies, it's for ascii art mostly. Which this is not but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

Dude coinheringaahing

It's compression is pretty powerful as well

dzaima

@Dudecoinheringaahing Canvas's compression is pretty basic (also doesn't have english compression unilke SOGL). It's decent for tiny strings with lots of repeating chars, but is worse than generic compression things for longer things

user

15:59

@Dudecoinheringaahing It's "Its" :P

Dude coinheringaahing

Is it's?

Aaron Miller

Its "It's"

Dude coinheringaahing

It's It's? Or its its?

Aaron Miller

Its "Its" is its "it's"

Dude coinheringaahing

Oooh, 05AB1E has dropped heavily in the ELO rankings

hyper-neutrino

16:04

F

dzaima

@Dudecoinheringaahing oh wow, my languages make up two of the top 4

(given that most answers in them are in challenges I thought they'd do good at, it's kind of understandable :P)

Dude coinheringaahing

16:17

I am anticipating some interesting answers to the latest Community VP Questions thread

user

16:29

@Dudecoinheringaahing Perhaps because no one uses it much anymore?

@vyxal For the ELO thing, would it be possible for you to group Python/Java/etc. versions together?

pxeger

16:51

@Dudecoinheringaahing Zsh has gone down by 1 :-(

oh but actually it went up since March 2021

Razetime

@Dudecoinheringaahing it does this every other month

in september it will suddenly come back to #1

either that or Kevin Cruijssen's activity is really hurting the ranking

Redwolf Programs

My ELO-like program should be finished in a week or two, I'll probably update it weekly (since that's the best SEDE can do)

Dude coinheringaahing

Please don't edit that post every week with new rankings

Redwolf Programs

I won't, don't worry :p

Dude coinheringaahing

:P

Redwolf Programs

17:05

I'll probably update it every few months with a more general overview, and have a link to the updated and in-depth results on GH

Catija

... are y'all intending to flood Philippe's question with all CG answers? :P

Dude coinheringaahing

...maybe :P

Catija

Well, y'all certainly play the squeaky wheel well. :D

Dude coinheringaahing

Tbf, we've only got 2 cgcc answers there (never mind that that's 66% of them :P)

Catija

I see you've acquired a title.

hyper-neutrino

17:08

+1 for waffles

Dude coinheringaahing

@Catija The Dude abides :P

Catija

That was my first thought.

Dude coinheringaahing

@Catija No one's posted a challenge on our main for hours, we need something to keep us occupied :P

Catija

Gotta keep those little dopamine hits coming. :P

Dude coinheringaahing

If I can't get the little green +10 here, I'll find somewhere else to do it :P

Razetime

17:23

ok where is it

I must get my dopamine hit as well

Dude coinheringaahing

Best of Stack :P

Looks like someone's gone and downvoted all the answers, fun :/

Although, my MSE rep is now a multiple of 10, so can't complain :P

Redwolf Programs

Ooh, I can see vote counts on meta now!

Ironic that my post about seeing vote counts is what got me there :p

Dude coinheringaahing

Imagine not using the userscript :P

Redwolf Programs

Anyway, time to do more work on the ELO script. I'm thinking about having it "learn" the names of common languages, so it can identify things like "Help, Wardoq!" without parsing that as a language named "Help" followed by a comma and space

Are there any other language names y'all can think of that have punctuation like , or - in their names?

Dude coinheringaahing

???

Redwolf Programs

17:32

What part is the ??? for?

Dude coinheringaahing

tio.run/#qqq

Redwolf Programs

Oh lol

Dude coinheringaahing

:P

wait, Help, WarDoq! isn't even on TIO

Aaron Miller

@RedwolfPrograms √ å ı ¥ ® Ï Ø ¿

Dude coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms But, Is It Art?

Redwolf Programs

17:38

Oh, good one. I think ignoring , when it's followed by a letter could be a possible solution

I'm putting a considerable amount of work into making sure almost all answers are parsed correctly, or ignored if there's no reasonable way to parse them (which could accidentally result in a wildly wrong byte count that unfairly hurts/helps a less common language's rankings)

Aaron Miller

,,,

Redwolf Programs

That's definitely a tricky one

Not sure what the proper way to format a header containing the language name ,,, would even be :p

Dude coinheringaahing

Look for the link

# [,,,](link), 5 bytes is the standard IIRC

Razetime

@RedwolfPrograms ():;+-#?!

@RedwolfPrograms !@$%^&*()+

Aaron Miller

@RedwolfPrograms Example

Redwolf Programs

17:44

@Dudecoinheringaahing That's a feature I was considering, yeah. Unfortunately it'd mess up my current parsing set-up to include additional information like tag boundaries, but I can probably find an awful hack to support it.

Are there any synonyms for <a>? Those caused issues with things like <strike> and <del> for strikethrough handling

Okay doesn't look like there are

user

Oh wow, I got a downvote literally within 3 seconds of posting on MSE

How does that even happen lol

Redwolf Programs

Maybe it looked spammy and got auto flagged by something? Or someone just waited for new posts to appear to downvote ones they dislike :/

Adám

Every single answer has a down vote. Sus.

Dude coinheringaahing

33 mins ago, by Dude coinheringaahing

Looks like someone's gone and downvoted all the answers, fun :/

user

I'm more surprised about the speed than the disliking. I expect all my posts on MSE to be downvoted, but that was just insanely fast

@Dudecoinheringaahing Ah, might be a troll then

Dude coinheringaahing

17:59

Someone's definitely "spawn-camping" :P

Redwolf Programs

Or someone who dislikes these sorts of community input questions

user

@Adám I'm afraid you've caught lyxalitis

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