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13:02
So heads up, I just increased this bounty from 500 to 1000: codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/a/21941/17216 Help me take much longer to get to 10k!
@Deadcode I awarded a bounty to that answer by Jonah because I had already awarded a bounty on the question where I wanted to award it, so I'd have to give 500 rep. You'll see in the bounty description that I link to their other answer.
@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI Oh I see. Thanks for the clarification :)
However, you did make me realize that @Jonah's original answer wasn't eligible for my bounty because it wasn't posted 3 years after the last answer, but that's my fault, because I suggested they request a bounty on that without reading my own bounty's criteria :\
So I'm going to go through with that one, and then I'll award yours on a different answer. Can you edit in the request (along with a different answer that I can award the 200 rep on) and then I'll link to your answer which actually qualifies for the bounty when I do that?
I hate that bounties are so confusing :(
@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI I don't understand... my answer doesn't actually qualify for the bounty and I was only asking because I thought bountying that question had been an accident.
@Deadcode Ohhh ok, never mind then :)
@ChartZBelatedly The NSFW userscript?
13:16
@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI I also wish that finished bounties still displayed the message they were bountied with, but they only display the name of who gave the bounty
Me too
The messages should also be editable, really.
@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI You know when you spamflag a post and it gets deleted with a message like "This message was deleted as spam and is hidden. See the revision history for the original post"? That's a userscript that just shows you what the post was
@ChartZBelatedly Oh, I see
I was hoping it could show all deleted posts, so I could follow meta discussions and stuff
No, sorry :(
Looks like SE waits until the end of the UTC day to update tag scores or something
13:23
I don't think they do
I was tracking my gold badge by the vote once it hit 980/1000, just needed to refresh my user page every so often
@RedwolfPrograms Showing No for me, must be a caching issue :P
When I google "should I blame caching" this is the second thing on the list lol
CMQ: What is your highest score tag you don't have a tag badge for? For me it's , with 33
13:30
At some point, I'm going to make a userscript that lists new questions and answers and notifies/alerts you when one gets posted
. zsh is quite good at it.
TIL you can specify when a userscript runs
@RedwolfPrograms how do you tell?
And I will take advantage of this to make a theme userscript that doesn't briefly show the original
@Neil @run-at
@Neil Head to your tags, and its the tag with the highest score <100
13:44
, 203
@Deadcode You should have a bronze badge
@Neil Oh I didn't check which message that was a reply to, ChartZ's reply is correct :p
@ChartZBelatedly Not yet, because I only have 15 posts, not yet 20
@Deadcode Oh right, forgot about the posts requirement
@RedwolfPrograms Are we counting tags that you can't get a tag badge in?
(i.e. there are less than 100 questions with that tag on the site)
13:48
@RedwolfPrograms in that case it's , I have 25 answers with a total of 272 votes, but there are only 61 questions with that tag
if you're just doing it on highest score < 100, it would be with 97 votes across 34 answers. As soon as someone asks another Fibonacci question then if I can get 3 votes on my answer then I'll get that badge
14:12
@RedwolfPrograms CNR at 87/100, 15/20
Does anyone know our siteid?
@RedwolfPrograms
97
14:42
Can someone answer a trivial question so I can test something?
where's [redacted] when you need him
Here's a fun fact: \$\newcommand\$ really doesn't work well in the Sandbox, or at least not in the "preview" shown while editing
Wait is there a way you can redefine things to mess other people's posts up?
Not really
14:47
@RedwolfPrograms Wow, you went straight to that, didn't you?
In your posts, you can set \newcommand{cmd}[# of args]{body}, and then whenever you do \$\cmd {args}\$ it'll use your new command
@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI All the power of the moderation tools is going to my head
On that note I can't seem to find them
For example: \$\newcommand{'}[2]{#1\text{'}#2} defines \' a b to be the quote notation a'b
Click the review icon in the top bar, and then click "tools"
I'm never going to reach 10k :(
@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI Steal some of my rep :P
This should be an easy way to get a decent amount of rep
14:51
@ChartZBelatedly Thanks, I look forward to stealing from you :P
What's the edit tags button for? Can't that already be done with normal edits?
Inline editing is nicer IMO
it just makes it a bit faster to quickly change some tags without doing a full edit
@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI I have tons of rep now, take some of mine. Which answer do you want me to bounty?
Hmm, so only the 10k users get to be productive :p
14:52
@RedwolfPrograms You should update your 19th Byte Room Owner nomination post to reflect your reputation's shiny new 5th digit
So I'm trying to use Flipbit, but there's no wiki page. Looks like brainfu*k though
@Wezl It's alright, I was kidding
although unfortunately you can't add an edit message if you do a tag edit, though usually there's no need to add an edit message to a tag edit anyway because it's pretty straightforward
@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI Yeah, but so much worse :P
oh also chartz congrats on being the first nomination to surpass the nominations post itself in upvotes :p
\o/ :P
One more upvote and I get a shiny bronze badge :P
14:54
If the votes on the nomination post predict the votes in the election, the room owners would be: ChartZ, Bubbler, and two of me, Original, and Lyxal
oh congrats on the 10k @RedwolfPrograms :P i wasn't awake when you got it
@ChartZBelatedly your face has fallen off your head
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@Wezl that is a wonderful image that i will attempt to never think about again
@Wezl Yeah, it does that from time to time. Means I need to reapply the glue
14:57
I just found a question which has a 30 byte bonus for explaining your answer...in spanish
Please link :P
Makes sense, the question's about Spanish :P
I want to answer it in JS though
> I don't take Spanish: I just speak it
Damn, savage from Peter Taylor :P
14:58
@Spanish speakers here's easy rep ^
Nobody ninja me or I will take your square root
Only one answer actually claimed the explanation bonus :P
Why are there so many Perl answers?
this question is probably old enough that code golf was still called "perl golf" by some people
Heh, I got ~1.2k rep today thanks to Bubbler's bounties
15:03
Assuming someone repcaps every day for a week, no bounties, they can get a max of +1400 rep in that week. You've already hit +1200 in 2 days this week :P
> The bounty expires in 7 days. Answers to this question are eligible for a +50 reputation bounty. Wezl is looking for an answer from a reputable source.
Ngl, haven't seen that bounty reason be used for a long time on CGCC, maybe ever
:)
@ChartZBelatedly Where's this bounty? I'd like to see if I can get it
@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI Here
You've already answered in Prolog
Oh ok
@Wezl What exactly do you mean by "reputable source" here?
@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI I'll find out within 7 days
15:17
I wish the authors of XML hadn't required the closing tag to match the opening one. Why can't I just do <div>...</> to close it automatically for god's sake
Think of the number of wasted keytstrokes
Doesn't your editor auto-close that?
@Wezl ?
Why not just <>...</> and have XML automatically figure out what you meant?
You kids and your fancy IDEs
Why not just an empty file and have XML figure out what you meant?
It'd make parsing XML a lot easier, might even be able to do it with regex :P
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15:18
in Husk, Feb 9 at 10:07, by Razetime
Imagine if Type inference could read your mind
Like that ^
@RedwolfPrograms HN just ninja'd you :P
HN can also ninja' the Answers to Good Old Questions bounty as well :p
@ChartZBelatedly I'd advise against that; it's not good practͫ̇i͙ce̹̳͉̽̓͐ ̝͍͈̋͑ͥa̪͎͚nd̐̓͂ č͍an̳̤ ͉ͥl̤̮̖ē̖̤̏ad ̽ͣͩto͙ ̪ͫa̪͂l͍̐ḽ͖͗ͪ ̌̈́̊sortsͅ o͉͉̬͂ͮ̀f wḛi̿řd ̬̫̼ͦ̇̄t̯̎hin͗gs ̫̪̯́̒͆h̯͇̼̓̊͗ä̾pp̞̪̭ͯ̓͆ě̠ni̝̪̣n̙gͤ́̐
[ was gonna make the zalgo get progressively worse but it's too tall and disruptive in chat :( ]
I have desktop notifications enabled for SE chat, and they do not like zalgo:
15:24
@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI maybe it means I can be biased and choose exactly who I think are "reputable sources"
Yeah, I know the picture quality's awful :P
@ChartZBelatedly D:
what is the square root of hyper-neutrino anyway
I have SE chat audio notifications on and they scare the living daylights out of me every time
@hyper-neutrino Just a regular neutrino
15:25
@hyper-neutrino well we all know that hyper < neutrino so sqrt(hyper - neutrino) is imaginary
@pxeger I've got Redwolf's review stalker adaptation that makes noises whenever there's something to review, and I haven't figured out how to turn them off or change them :P
You have the old one too, right?
Lyxal's fridge will forever haunt you
@RedwolfPrograms Yeah, but it doesn't work
15:29
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Original Original Original VIFind the traitor cops-and-robbers (WIP) In this challenge, the cops are the robbers/moles and the robbers are the cops/investigators. Cops Cops will write a program that will output one of the following strings: "Hello World!" "Totally not evil stuff" "Good morning" "Innocent things" However, w...

@ChartZBelatedly @RedwolfPrograms I just installed it, how do I use it?
gtg for a few minutes
Hi, does somebody think Taxi is easier than python?
15:46
it should say "Review Stalker Reloaded (temp fix) v1.9.04" and "site added" at the top
ah ok, I was looking for some separate UI
From there, just leave the tab open and wait until you hear an annoying noise and the tab icon changes to a magnifying glass
15:58
Sorry to spoil the fun, but this is getting to be a bit too much noise, so let's move on to something else.
aw, I was just getting warmed up
@Deadcode I moved them to a separate room instead of trashing them so you can continue there if you'd really like :P
That's got to be the first RO/mod exclusive action here in a while :P
I'm back (misinterpret that :p)
Huh, Redwolf is a body part, who knew?
16:01
ooh, that's a fun bug: when a starred message is moved, it no longer appears yellow for those who starred it
Huh, that's strange :P
There, posted my answer that outgolfed HN
Oh wait forgot to account for special chars in byte count
Also another fun thing: when you unpin a message, it shows as starred by you, but if you try to unstar it, it will fail and tell you you can't star your own message, even though you already have starred your own message. At least, I think that's how it works.
@RedwolfPrograms I didn't include the special characters in the <vowel>is conjugation forms since the top answer seems to skip that as well; if I include it you'll still outgolf me
I still outgolf you anyway, mine just goes up to 191
I think
Yeah
it costs me even more bytes to include the accented characters because I shortcut and steal the character from the source string, so I'd need to add extra cases for it
16:06
Oh, true. The Vosotros one's annoying because it's both hard to implement and not present in some regions I think
I wonder if feeds are flaggable
Looks like they are
I wonder if there's a way to stop feeds from posting closed/deleted questions
Also, quote notation is hurting my brain :(
Anyone else love looking at the dips in number of downloads around Christmas on NPM and similar sites?
@ChartZBelatedly If only there was a userscript designed to address this exact issue :p
16:17
The solution to everything is basically just userscript nowadays :P
@RedwolfPrograms But it doesn't :P
It reduces deleted ones, it doesn't stop them or closed being posted
@hyper-neutrino Apologies, I didn't think it'd get that out of hand
@hyper-neutrino Userscripts are the new jQuery
Although I guess they use jQuery, so the solution to everything is jQuery
No userscript of mine uses jQuery
document.querySelector is way better than $
16:24
I thought $ could do more.
It's also shorter, so... :P
It can do a ton more
But vanilla JS is better
What can it do (besides selecting classes)?
Vanilla JS is my favorite framework too
16:25
I code exclusively in JSF***
@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI It's got all sorts of weird functions and stuff, it's not actual DOM stuff
uh.... so I just deleted one of my sandbox posts and it didn't update so I reloaded the page and it said there was one delete vote
first of all I don't need to vote on things to delete them, and moreover, it was my own post in the first place????????
16:28
SE be buggy
yesterday, by Lyxal
s/chat search//
@hyper-neutrino Did you say at some point that you can refresh the cached stuff for a user? SE still won't admit I have a score of 6 in
Mods can just force tag synonyms IIRC
I want synonymizer :p
@RedwolfPrograms This says you only have a score of 2 as well
@RedwolfPrograms I can force-update your chat profile from its parent site but I'm not aware of a way to refresh cache for what you're trying to fix.
16:35
Ah, ok
your profile says you have a score of 2 with 1 answer, so I guess 11 hours is too short for a cache update :/
Hi everyone!
Do tags scores update instantly if follow it as next tag badge?
Where has git add -N been all my life?
@Wasif No, they're cached, and as @RedwolfPrograms is kindly demonstrating right this moment, they evidently take quite a long time
@Wasif Sometimes
@pxeger No i have seen my [pandas] tag score getting updated instantly on SO if I set it as following next tag badge, In confusion I asked
16:46
Hmm, well caching is funky
Ooh let me try that
Yeah, I think if you follow the tag badge it does
@RedwolfPrograms There's no tag badge for any of those three (encoding, encode, decode)
@RedwolfPrograms Are you seriously going to follow a 2/100 badge?
If it got it to refresh yeah
(6/100)
16:47
@ChartZBelatedly I have 4 sheets of paper covered in crossed out long division and quote marks surrounding my laptop D:
Okay so it turns out for the API our site ID is 200
Oh cool
@RedwolfPrograms still so far.......................... (6/100)
@RedwolfPrograms But for SEDE it's 92...
@Wasif I would switch back as soon as it refreshed
If you don't name any variables involving JSON jason I don't know what you're doing with your life
@RedwolfPrograms Hope you will be the first person who gets a badge in encoding tag
16:51
@RedwolfPrograms In my programs jason is reserved for 5 of the last 6 months of the year
WOW jason -> July August September October November
I subscribe to the philosophy that you should give all your variables human names so you can empathize with them to develop stronger connections with your code
:p
@Wasif Redwolf just needs SE to acknowledge that he's got a score of 5 or more in the badge so he get suggest it as a synonym
TBH tho, given that people need 5 to vote as well, and it needs 4 votes, you might be hard pressed to get it through without prodding some of the top users
If I suggest it and it gets forced by a mod, maybe that'd still give the badge?
someone give me an underused tag to make a question for
this is due to lack of idea reasons
@RedwolfPrograms Just needs to be approved so I think so
@Razetime atomic code golf
somehow both of these tags are not giving me any ideas
abort
Or king-of-the-hill
@Razetime Popularity-contest?
16:57
koth is nice
I should get to writing up the text editor koth
@ChartZBelatedly yay -155
Through some hacky rules interpreting :P
lets goooooo
lmao
CMP: I'm writing up a team-based koth: Python or JS?
JS, because lots of languages compile to it
Python!!!
17:07
JS
@ChartZBelatedly JS
use java
JS
Online interpreters are easier
Scoreboard: JS:4 Python,Java:1
@hyper-neutrino I can write JS and Python reasonably well, I don't know Java :P
17:09
@ChartZBelatedly JS and Python can run on the JVM
A subset, at least.
Yes, but I can't write a controller in Java
And Java can be kinda compiled to JS, but again, it's limited.
How about breaking the mould and going with Ruby
HTML+CSS KotH :p
I can in Python, probably can in JS, but nothing else :P
Or I can run it in Jelly :P
17:10
@ChartZBelatedly I meant that you could use Jython or something (basically Python on the JVM)
@pxeger None is going to participate :P
JS is probably best - whatever's natural for you and lets lots of others participate
How about a Deadfish~ kotH :P
@ChartZBelatedly yes, Jelly
everyone on PPCG already has access to JS, but not necessarily Python or the JVM
17:11
the language which has like, 5 active programmers on SE
Given how "simple" it should be, I'm leaning towards JS and people can translate their bots into JS if necessary
@Razetime what language?
@ChartZBelatedly :+1:
yeah there's skulpt if necessary
Star this comment if you want JS, or don't not star it if you don't. :P
17:12
@Razetime Alright, the people have decided, Jelly it is :P
do it in brainf***
Oooh, how about brainflak?
you can probably run that in javascript too
I think I'll go with JS, but require all answers to be written in J5hit :P
(JS with just []+`=)
How do you plan to I/O without the sixth character tho :P
17:17
my friend just showed me my new favorite PPCG userscript: ((d,e)=>{e = d.createElement("style");e.innerHTML = "*{ background: radial-gradient(red, green, red); }";d.head.appendChild(e);})(document)
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What's the distance (e.g. Euclidean or Manhattan) where it's on a cell-based grid and diagonals "cost" the same as orthagonals? Similar to DnD grid distance?
@Wasif jelly
@Wezl I don't know why I tried that :P
@ChartZBelatedly Don't know the name, but you can just take the max of the x and y distances to get it
@ChartZBelatedly if this is serious please oh please make it happen
17:21
@Wezl I just copied that into my console ⍨
I have a PEA bookmarklet (prompt eval alert)
@Wezl with PPCG grad useracript, this is absolute bliss
@Razetime You're kidding, right?
why would I be
@Razetime Nah, I'm gonna go with JS
17:25
@ChartZBelatedly JellyScript
Jelly is a Python package, meaning that (assuming you have it installed), you can do import jelly, so a Python KOTH could allow Jelly answers
I am waiting for someone to write a jelly interpreter in JS
@Wasif it would be an ordeal
The interpret python command would be tough :p
Wouldn't be hard, just long :P
@RedwolfPrograms Change it to interpret JS, ez
17:28
regex is a bit different in JS so those rules also change
Or if challenge is in jelly then it would also accept python because it has an atom for evalling python code
and it would probably be much harder
@RedwolfPrograms change that feature to interpret JS code
JS cod > atlantic cod
Jelly in Haskell would be impressive :P
17:30
How about jelly in C#
i was gonna say jelly in brainf***, but you know what would be even more impressive? game-of-life interpreter for jelly lmao
Jelly is objectively the most powerful because of the ease with which you can write a jelly interpreter (or compiler) in it
No non-self nominations for RO so far :P last time out of our 5 we only had the one for Mego that wasn't a self-nomination
17:48
@hyper-neutrino And Mego got kinda annoyed at the lack of effort put it :P
> I hereby nominate Mego. He's pretty cool and as far as I can tell is on basically all the time.
@ChartZBelatedly Granted, the nomination was just "I nominate Mego, he seems cool and he's active", so that's fair enough considering the other nominations had like profiles, active times, reasons for them, etc
Besides, it's difficult to write a proper nomination for someone :P
I think I got my userscript working, I just need someone to write a question and answer
I don't suppose it's allowed to deliberately post a closable challenge just for that purpose
Wish we had a sandbox.se :p
17:52
It would be nice for testing privileges and such too :P
Just wait a few days, we get plenty of closable challenges (though not as many as other sites).
If you want, I can make a chatroom and add a feed from a site with more closable questions and wait for it to pick up something bad
the question just needs to be closed before NMP picks it up, which shouldn't be too hard given that our site's pretty active, and I have no life so I'll probably catch it, and NMP is pretty slow usually :P
No, it's a different userscript
It lists new questions and answers as they are posted, like NMP but much more fast and customizable
It just intercepts the 404 at https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/posts/new, then there's a simple UI that listens in on the same socket as the active page

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