The Nineteenth Byte

HyperNeutrino

5:00 PM

cool life hack: you can use the metal part of your seatbelt to open a beer bottle while driving

Step Hen

@HyperNeutrino how old are you again?

HyperNeutrino

15

totallyhuman

...you do realize why they asked you that question right?

Step Hen

@HyperNeutrino I don't think you're driving or drinking beer, and I didn't think you're supposed to do those at the same time xD

HyperNeutrino

that's the point

xD

Mr. Xcoder

5:03 PM

I really wish OPs would respond faster

> What if the letter difference brings the letter out of the alphabet? Like ZEN, for example. Z shifted by 1 is... A? ( as a side note, the 05AB1E answer turns Z into A)

HyperNeutrino

> Isn't E -3? (~40 mins ago)

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino And still didn't respond. That's why I asked something else..

It's a great challenge for Pyth, I think

totallyhuman

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A: The Letter A without A

Vim, 19 bytes (not competing) :redi@"|Ni!<CR>pJd3w~D Do you demand a shrubbery?

wat

ckjbgames

I finally compiled my C++ answer to my own question!

I am compiling my CImg programs with g++ filename.cpp -L/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu -lX11 -o filename -pthread. Pretty wordy, huh?

Business Cat

@DJMcMayhem Jelly, 15 bytes

HyperNeutrino

5:11 PM

dammit that's practically what I tried except I had the components in the wrong places ><

Business Cat

I wonder if there's a shorter way

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Q: Find pages down to a depth of N on a website

In this challenge, your task is to write a program which takes a URL and a number. It will then follow every link on the URL given down to a certain "depth" (i.e. that many links followed.) For each page it encounters, it will output that page's URL to stdout. I don't have any real URLs for thi...

tree-traversal

Mr. Xcoder

Who else discovered PPCG by mistake?

Step Hen

@Mr.Xcoder Does HNQ while bored at school count as a mistake?

Mr. Xcoder

@StepHen Nope

HyperNeutrino

5:15 PM

I can't remember how I discovered PPCG lol

ERMAHGERD so unclear why this challenge

I could tell it was this user before I even checked lol

Business Cat

I found it off HNQ from SO while at work (surprise surprise)

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino The only kind of challenge posted while I am online

HyperNeutrino

lol

Riker

@flawr til this about switzerland, is it true?

Mr. Xcoder

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Q: "Hello, World!"

So... uh... this is a bit embarrassing. But we don't have a plain "Hello, World!" challenge yet (despite having 35 variants tagged with hello-world, and counting). While this is not the most interesting code golf in the common languages, finding the shortest solution in certain esolangs can be a ...

code-golf string kolmogorov-complexity hello-world

This is how I discovered PPCG ^

HyperNeutrino

5:17 PM

wait wat I VTC'd as unclear but it said I closed as off-topic ><

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino I voted to close as off-topic

HyperNeutrino

I think it's by majority

Mr. Xcoder

Because it does not have a winning criterion

HyperNeutrino

Also: Please do not vote to delete yet!

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino I won;t

ckjbgames

5:18 PM

Well, I finally made an answer for my own question... in C++

Step Hen

@HyperNeutrino ofc not

HyperNeutrino

@Mr.Xcoder Even if the user just appended This is [tag:code-golf] so shortest code in bytes wins I would still VTC it

ckjbgames

339 bytes total

Step Hen

@HyperNeutrino Not just for lacking objective winning criterion :P

HyperNeutrino

Okay thanks :) Just putting that out there to avoid more ninja deletes :P

Mr. Xcoder

5:18 PM

@HyperNeutrino I would use all of the close reasons, if I could

HyperNeutrino

even "belongs on SO"? lol

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino No

Well, most of them

HyperNeutrino

and dupe?

and opinion-based?

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino Yes

HyperNeutrino

wait dupe of what

Mr. Xcoder

5:19 PM

I would have found something, because it is underspecified

Step Hen

@Mr.Xcoder Why isn't that a close reason lol

Mr. Xcoder

@StepHen There's unclear what you are asking

totallyhuman

unclear pretty much the same thing?

ninja'd

Mr. Xcoder

yesterday, by Mr. Xcoder

2 hours ago, by Mr. Xcoder

yesterday, by HyperNeutrino

Jun 23 at 12:27, by Erik the Outgolfer

please, "ninja'd" should be restricted to when you actually post the message a split second later than somebody else posting the same message, and then you are the one who is ninja'd

totallyhuman

...yes that's what happened

i got ninja'd :P

Mr. Xcoder

5:21 PM

@totallyhuman * Facepalm *

WTH is this tagged cryptography?

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Q: Shifting Caesars Shifts

Description A Caesar Shift is a very simple monoalphabetic cipher where each letter gets replaced by the one after it in the alphabet. Example: Hello world! -> IFMMP XPSME! As you can see, spacing and punctuation remain unattuned. However, to prevent guessing the message, all letters are capi...

code-golf string arithmetic cryptography encryption

Step Hen

@Mr.Xcoder ... because that's what it is?

Mr. Xcoder

And arithmetic?

Step Hen

@Mr.Xcoder less relevant but still could be argued for

Mr. Xcoder

@StepHen cryptography and encryption are redundant

Step Hen

@Mr.Xcoder encryption has a lot less questions than cryptography

HyperNeutrino

5:23 PM

Thinking about it… https://t.co/AxBzPQlMwk

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on July 18, 2017 at 4:39 PM

Step Hen

@Mr.Xcoder So I'd burninate encryption not cryptography

Mr. Xcoder

@StepHen Cool

caird coinheringaahing

Does anyone know when the mod election happens? I'm tired of Dennis elevening our memes.

Mr. Xcoder

done

HyperNeutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing If memes are enough to make you want to considering replacing a moderator, you need to seriously reconsider the way you think of this site.

Step Hen

5:25 PM

@Mr.Xcoder I meant the tag itself, not it's usage on that question :P since it exists you may as well use it, but it probably shouldn't exist

totallyhuman

yes i can finally answer the hello world question in ,,,

Okx

@cairdcoinheringaahing dennis did say it was a joint moderation decision

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing The community would choose Dennis again anyway

totallyhuman

finally

Step Hen

@cairdcoinheringaahing I want mod election, but so we can have four active mods :P

caird coinheringaahing

5:25 PM

Woah! what a reaction. It was a joke!

And I actually agree with @StepHen

ckjbgames

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A: The Chroma Key to Success

C++, 339 bytes This uses CImg, and it can take files in other formats, too. The result is displayed in a window. #include<CImg.h> using namespace cimg_library; int main(int g,char** v){CImg<unsigned char> f(v[1]),b(v[2]);for(int c=0;c<f.width();c++){for(int r=0;r<f.height();r++){if((f(c,r)==0)&&...

Step Hen

@cairdcoinheringaahing Anyway, mod election doesn't remove mods, you have to remove them before you reelect more

ckjbgames

Ugly answer

HyperNeutrino

Rip ok. sorry for the overreaction lol xD but yeah, I agree with Step Hen too

Dennis

@cairdcoinheringaahing Mod elections happen when a moderator steps down or the mods ask for an additional moderator. You won't get rid of me this easily.

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AdmBorkBork

5:26 PM

@Dennis Thanks! Gonna need to pick you brain a little bit on the TryItOnquine sandbox challenge. Specifically, where in the repo the link generation is located.

HyperNeutrino

> TryItOnquine

what, is this a TIO for Quines?

Downgoat

CMC: given a positive integer, n (> 0) and radius r, output the coordinates for n points equally distributed among a circumference of a circle with radius r

Step Hen

> TryItOnquine sandbox challenge

totallyhuman

while i don't care for new mods, i still want the memes page back ;-;

HyperNeutrino

float coords?

caird coinheringaahing

5:27 PM

so what's happening with this then

HyperNeutrino

@StepHen whoops im dumb

@cairdcoinheringaahing StackOverflow gets more mods all the time. They have like 30 mods. We have 4 xD

Mr. Xcoder

@Downgoat Isn't a circle defined as the union of points at an equal distance to another point?

AdmBorkBork

@HyperNeutrino Kinda. Go check it out.

HyperNeutrino

uhm rip mods cannot have been suspended in the past year, so even if I wanted to try to nominate myself for fun it wouldn't work rip

caird coinheringaahing

@HyperNeutrino that's unfair. We are more important than the original SE site!

Adám

5:28 PM

@Downgoat Any n points, or does the first have to be at 0°?

HyperNeutrino

oh c'mon it wasn't even cuz I was doing anything bad on SE lol

Dennis

@AdmBorkBork That would be the saveState function. github.com/TryItOnline/tryitonline/blob/master/usr/share/…

HyperNeutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing thanks for the badge xD I got "Caucus" for visiting that page lol

caird coinheringaahing

@Dennis what has happened to Alex A.? You mods talk to each other right?

ckjbgames

hey gamers

Mr. Xcoder

5:29 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing They are just generally inactive

Downgoat

@Adám first can be anywhere but have to be equal distributed

Step Hen

@Mr.Xcoder They are as of when is Alex A. two people

AdmBorkBork

@Dennis Perfect, thanks.

Downgoat

@Mr.Xcoder yeah but just said for clarity

ckjbgames

i can't believe i just answered a question in c++

Mr. Xcoder

5:30 PM

@StepHen I don't want to assume gender, and they are is used in this case

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder mods aren't supposed to be ruling over us, but they are supposed to show up every so often. He hasn't been here since June.

Step Hen

@Mr.Xcoder This is his github: github.com/ararslan

ckjbgames

and it was m y o w n q u e s t i o n

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Q: your Uncle help Drunk needs

Drunk Uncle (sorry M.E. and AUS for region lock) is a fictional character from Saturday Night Live. He often confuses words for others that sound like them. For this challenge you need to convert normal speech into drunkspeak. Algorithm Translating to drunkspeak requires swapping the order of w...

code-golf natural-language

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing They should not be a mod, then

Downgoat

5:32 PM

question: this: Math.sqrt(127*127*n + 0*0*(1-n)) is the exact same as Math.sqrt(127*127*n) right? I am not going crazy right

Leaky Nun

@Downgoat yes

totallyhuman

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A: "Hello, World!"

,,,, 14 bytes "Hello, World! I finally added unclosed strings to ,,,. Took me long enough.

Mr. Xcoder

@Downgoat yes

Leaky Nun

it is also same with Math.sqrt(n)*127

Downgoat

ok thanks

HyperNeutrino

5:32 PM

@Downgoat lambda n,r:[(r*sin(360/n*k),r*cos(360/n*k))for k in range(n)];from math import*

Adám

@Downgoat APL: ⎕×¯12○(○2×⍳÷⊢)⎕

Mr. Xcoder

@Downgoat The same with 127*n**.5

Downgoat

trying to do root mean square color mixing

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder while I agree that gender equality is a good thing and that people shouldn't assume genders, his github profile shows that he is a guy. So it should be He

dzaima

@totallyhuman ,,, is stack-based, right?

Mr. Xcoder

5:34 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing I didn't surf through his profile TIL.

totallyhuman

@dzaima yes

HyperNeutrino

Let's not get into this discussion. Either is fine, if you know the person's gender, good for you, if not, you can use "they" even if it's "grammatically correct". Discussion over.

Adám

@Downgoat tio.run/##SyzI0U2pTMzJT///…

totallyhuman

^^

Dennis

@cairdcoinheringaahing He's not as active as he used to be. If he wanted you to know the details, he would have told you. ;)

Mr. Xcoder

5:38 PM

@Adám Can you please type that APL back arrow, similar to a unified <-? I need the unicode char and I don't have it on my keyboard

dzaima

@totallyhuman I'd suggest having unclosed strings need the ending quote not the starting one - pushing and using a string could be way more useful than pushing a string at the end of the program and being able to do nothing much with it

Adám

@Mr.Xcoder ←

Mr. Xcoder

@Adám Thanks a lot

HyperNeutrino

@Dennis but he's alright right?

totallyhuman

@Mr.Xcoder shapecatcher.com

wait wut

HyperNeutrino

5:39 PM

> Your connection is not private

Attackers might be trying to steal your information from shapecatcher.com (for example, passwords, messages or credit cards).

totallyhuman

ah there

it's on the http protocol apparently :/

caird coinheringaahing

@Dennis even so, a mod shouldn't have a month long break from their site

HyperNeutrino

rip

Mr. Xcoder

@totallyhuman Thanks

Dennis

@HyperNeutrino No birds were harmed in the making of this chat message.

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HyperNeutrino

5:40 PM

lol

totallyhuman

not all starred messages are starbait

caird coinheringaahing

I really want to star that "Starbait" message

HyperNeutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing You don't know what situation a person may be in so I don't think you're in the place to generalise what mods should/shouldn't do.

Step Hen

@cairdcoinheringaahing I almost did too

caird coinheringaahing

must resist urge... to star...

HyperNeutrino

5:41 PM

give in to the temptation :3

Step Hen

@cairdcoinheringaahing Can't star deleted messages :/

HyperNeutrino

wait which one were you talking about

Dennis

@cairdcoinheringaahing That's not your decision to make. Mods are simple human beings, and if and when one of us needs a prolonged break to deal with other stuff, it's up to that moderator, the remaining moderators, and their superiors in the SE food chain to decide how to deal with that.

Mr. Xcoder

I starred it too, anyway

totallyhuman

@dzaima you bring up a good point

caird coinheringaahing

5:42 PM

@HyperNeutrino @Dennis sorry, not my place to judge

totallyhuman

i could technically implement both

HyperNeutrino

@Dennis Really? I thought at least ten of you mods were Jon Skeet's bots...

totallyhuman

string at start doesn't need opening, string at end doesn't need closing

Step Hen

@Dennis Especially since, at least on PPCG, it seems to me at least that the moderation that currently gets done is more than sufficient.

dzaima

@totallyhuman SOGL implements ~both but with having the starting and ending quotes be different

DJMcMayhem

5:43 PM

@totallyhuman But... But... How could you possibly parse that?

Mr. Xcoder

And why in the world isn't the best user (highest-rep user) on a site an implicit mod?

totallyhuman

@DJMcMayhem tokenizer

DJMcMayhem

What would ..."..."... be? two strings or one?

caird coinheringaahing

@HyperNeutrino this?

HyperNeutrino

@Mr.Xcoder Because the highest rep user is not necessarily the best user...?

Step Hen

5:43 PM

@Mr.Xcoder Doesn't want to be?

HyperNeutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing yes xD

totallyhuman

@DJMcMayhem oh... hmm

DJMcMayhem

For that matter, what string would aaa"bbb be? A's or B's?

totallyhuman

right yeah

Mr. Xcoder

I mean, why isn't that implicit on SE? They wouldn't have to deal with Mod stuff, but would have mod powers...

DJMcMayhem

5:45 PM

Heck, even if you only implement opening, you'll still be ambiguous. aaa"bbb"c

Uriel

@cairdcoinheringaahing they are doing it for fun, not for job. they owe simply nothing

DJMcMayhem

Is that "aaa"-bbb-"c" or aaa-"bbb"-c?

totallyhuman

easy, just implement AI that can judge based on context :P

but yes that's not gonna work

caird coinheringaahing

@Uriel chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/38857600#38857600

HyperNeutrino

Besides, high rep users are very close to moderators. They have many of the things that moderators can do, and ultimately, you need someone trusted and verified by the community to be able to make the final decisions that ultimately overpower anyone else's decisions.

Business Cat

5:46 PM

Gaia also has both, but with different opening/closing, and even with that the string parsing has caused me headaches to write

totallyhuman

different opening and closing makes sense

Business Cat

Your language is stack-based, right?

totallyhuman

i did like the fact that i could type that with ASCII though :P

@BusinessCat yup

Mr. Xcoder

CMC (more of a hearing CMC): Determine which language Sean Paul uses in this song, at around 1:25

Step Hen

@totallyhuman I know: make it so that every char in strings need to be escaped, that way you don't need opening or closing quotes, so "Hello, World" becomes \H\e\l\l\o\ \W\o\r\l\d

Business Cat

5:47 PM

For stack-based I would allow omitting the start quote over the end quote. It's much more likely that you would have a string at the start and do some work with it than just a string literal at the end

dzaima

@totallyhuman an extra small macro isn't that hard to use

Step Hen

@totallyhuman What's wrong with " and '?

totallyhuman

@StepHen now that's just unbalanced :P

Step Hen

@totallyhuman OK, ` and '

dzaima

SOGL has "...” for regular strings

totallyhuman

5:48 PM

still `kinda' weird

Mr. Xcoder

Look at Pyth, for example. It uses " and if there is only the starting ", it automatically adds another one at the very end

Business Cat

But Pyth is prefix, so a postfix language should automatically add at the beginning

DJMcMayhem

@Mr.Xcoder English

totallyhuman

ok so here's what i garnered and will do

Mr. Xcoder

@BusinessCat Yeah, probably

Step Hen

5:49 PM

@Mr.Xcoder "just turn on subtitles"

totallyhuman

use separate opening and closing (most likely the ones jelly uses or «») and allow for both unopened and unclosed

Mr. Xcoder

@DJMcMayhem Hard to believe that (I know it's English, but what "an English")...

Business Cat

Speaking of headaches, I'm currently having one trying to make an "all partitions of a list" operator

DJMcMayhem

genius.com/Clean-bandit-rockabye-lyrics

Mr. Xcoder

@DJMcMayhem ಠ_ಠ

DJMcMayhem

5:51 PM

Why?

Mr. Xcoder

NVM

totallyhuman

@totallyhuman and plus i won't have to deal with escaping quotes

Business Cat

Why not, you might still want those fancy quotes in a string

totallyhuman

ugh i do not want to deal with rewriting my string regex

Mr. Xcoder

CMC: Given a String, interchange the beginnings and the endings of the words (a word is a run of letters, separated by spaces). You won't receive any punctuation

Business Cat

5:52 PM

Part of my string parser isn't even regex :P

Mr. Xcoder

abc abc cba -> cba cba abc

Java is fun -> aavJ si nuf

(The words will be at least 2 letters long)

Business Cat

Because (using regular quotes here because it's easier to type) \" is a literal quote character, \\" is a backslash at the end of a string, and \\\" is a backslash followed by a quote. I saw no sensible way I could deal with that through regex

HyperNeutrino

avaJ si nuf

totallyhuman

lambda s:' '.join(i[-1]+i[1:-1]+i[0]for i in s.split())

Mr. Xcoder

@HyperNeutrino Fixed

HyperNeutrino

5:54 PM

thanks. and I failed too xD

dzaima

@Mr.Xcoder SOGL, 10 bytes: θ{K;JΚΚ@+t

New Meta Posts

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Q: Professor Propsters' Garden fence

Although I'm fairly new to PPCG, I had this nice idea for a cops-and-robbers game. Although it may take some time to read the suggestion, please take some time to improve the challenge as I have zero experience with this! Thank you. Description: Professor Propster is a strange guy. Ideed, he's ...

discussion

totallyhuman

@NewMetaPosts move to sandbox

DJMcMayhem

@Mr.Xcoder Vim, 29 bytes: :s/\v<(.)(.{-})(.>)/\3\2\1/g<cr>

Mr. Xcoder

@me 14 bytes: jdm++edPtd@d0c (waaay to long)

dzaima

5:58 PM

@totallyhuman it was in the sandbox; it has been moved out

HyperNeutrino

@dzaima but why

dzaima

following the steps of the ant KoTH would be my guess

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

How high can you count? code-challenge Challenge In 500 bytes (or fewer) write a program that outputs a list of the English word forms of as many consecutive integers greater than zero as you can. For example, score 6: one two three four five six Example submission (hopefully you can do be...

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