The Nineteenth Byte

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Q: Make your language *mostly* unusable! (Cops' thread)

Inspired by this comment... Thanks to users Step Hen, Wheat-Wizard, and Dennis for helping my solidify the specification of this challenge before posting it! This is the Cops' thread. For the Robber's thread, go here In this challenge, you are tasked with running some code that makes it so t...

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Q: Make your language *mostly* unusable (Robber's thread)

Inspired by this comment... Thanks to users Step Hen, Wheat-Wizard, and Dennis for helping my solidify the specification of this challenge before posting it! This is the Robber's thread! For the Cops' thread, go here In this challenge, you are tasked with running some code that makes it so t...

code-golf arithmetic cops-and-robbers

DJMcMayhem

7 hours ago, by DJMcMayhem

I'm working on the socratic badge, so I'll post the cop at 23:50 UTC, and the robber at 0:00 UTC. XD

status-completed

Jul 14 at 16:12, by Wheat Wizard

@DJMcMayhem Tell me when you post your CNR, I've been thinking about it and I'm really excited for it now.

@WheatWizard posted!

totallyhuman

do jelly answers always get more upvotes than equivalent byte count answers?

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Q: The redundant boolean

Introduction Classically, booleans are one bit; true or false, 1 or 0. Leading zeros would just be redundant. For example, 001 means the same as 00001 or just 1. The 32-bit boolean Given a truthy/falsey value, output the equivalent 32-bit boolean as a string. (Or as a number if for some reason...

code-golf string

trichoplax

00:32

@cairdcoinheringaahing The little arrow to the left of this chat message is a link to the message it replies to. You can see which message my previous one was a reply to in the same way.

totallyhuman

'cause except for pyth; 05ab1e, cquents, matl and ohm are behind on votes

trichoplax

@totallyhuman Do jelly answers on average have more/better explanations?

totallyhuman

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Q: Sum of all integers from 1 to n

I'm honestly surprised that this hasn't been done already. If you can find an existing thread, by all means mark this as a duplicate or let me know. Input Your input is in the form of any positive integer greater than or equal to 1. Output You must output the sum of all integers between and i...

code-golf math number

they all have good explanations

and husk is 1 byte (albeit slightly late)

whoops i linked to an answer

trichoplax

@totallyhuman Maybe posting 3 minutes earlier makes all the difference...

totallyhuman

maybe

but hey i'm not complaining i got 140 rep from that question

i'm planning on trying brainfuck but division is a pain...

maybe generating the range might be easier..?

NVM

ATaco

00:55

I uh, accidentally solved the challenge.

+++++[[->+>+<<]>>[-<<+>>]<<->[->>+<<]<]>>>.

@totallyhuman

totallyhuman

Oh welp there go my upvotes

Nice job though

ATaco

I was just trying to make it generate a range, and due to a mistake, somewhere, it solved the challenge instead.

totallyhuman

That's way golfier than I would've ended up with lol

@ATaco happens all the time, is natural

ATaco

#WelcomeToBrainfuck

Christopher

I need a challenge that is simple but will get me 20 upvotes a day for the next year. Any ideas?

totallyhuman

01:04

If I had one, I wouldn't tell you

ATaco

Thought about how it worked, further golfed. ,[[->+>+<<]>[-<+>]<-]>>.

totallyhuman

@HyperNeutrino I answered something in positron :D

ATaco

I'll be posting it as an answer to reap the Upgoats.

Christopher

#Ninjapostedyouranswer

ATaco

The Brainfuck is shorter than Bash.

Christopher

01:11

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Q: Interpret as many languages as possible

You must create one program that interprets as many languages as possible Input You will take language name, code, input. These may be taken in any reasonable format, and in an order of your choice. Output The output of the given code when run with the given input in the given language. Rule...

code-challenge

Well that was fast

totallyhuman

Wait for NMP

:P

@Christopher ask why

Christopher

@totallyhuman Why?

Hehe double ontonda

totallyhuman

On the question :P

It wasn't me

Christopher

You can always fix it

totallyhuman

I'm not a big fan either

Christopher

01:20

Same here but removing my sandbox posts

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Q: Interpret as many languages as possible

You must create one program that interprets as many languages as possible Input You will take language name, code, input. These may be taken in any reasonable format, and in an order of your choice. Output The output of the given code when run with the given input in the given language. Rule...

code-challenge

ATaco

@Christopher Damn, I was gonna do 1 Byte 1 Language.

Christopher

@ATaco Cry me a river. Tired of negative votes on all my posts

totallyhuman

You don't gotta post em

Abandoning bad questions is a good idea

Especially when you agree

Christopher

Idc i post em if i want to

totallyhuman

01:25

/shrug then you should get used to the downvotes

Christopher

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ i have

ATaco

assert(cake.have ^ cake.eat)

Christopher

@ATaco what should I have done with my question?

ATaco

I have no idea, I suck at writing questions.

Christopher

I believe you said sandbox it. :P

I sent you a link

ATaco

01:27

I saw, and I saw that the sandbox wasn't positive in favour of posting it.

Which should have been a good warning sign.

trichoplax

I post lots of things in the sandbox, and I end up deleting quite a few of them. I don't see that as a bad thing - it just helps me filter my ideas.

ATaco

I don't sandbox anything, post it and monkey patch it as it goes, it works out usually.

Christopher

I sandbox and monkey patch

still does not work :P

trichoplax

I possibly go too far the other way. I've had posts in the sandbox for years before posting...

ATaco

I think what i do works only because I have a few ideals I stick to when writing challenges.

totallyhuman

01:32

Brainbrain brainfuck fuckfuck

Somebody complete the cycle

Destructible Lemon

@totallyhuman you missed a fuckbrain

ATaco

No Chameleon Challenges: Make the challenge entirely about solving a problem, everything else should be as forgiving as possible.
No Unobservable Conditions: A challenge should be defined entirely by what goes into it and what comes out of it. What happens inside isn't the challenges problem (Except for Restricted Source, In some cases...)
K.I.S.S: Keep it Simple Stupid; You should know what needs to be done exactly after the first paragraph, everything else should be for clarification and convenience, not specifics.

trichoplax

@totallyhuman I hope you're not trying to trick someone else into getting kicked :P

totallyhuman

:P

Destructible Lemon

well

totallyhuman

01:38

I was afraid I'd get kicked for that

Destructible Lemon

so what other things could I make for a koth

maybe something about voxels

Conor O'Brien

@DJMcMayhem notice me dj senpai lol

DJMcMayhem

@ConorO'Brien Sorry, bad timing. I'll get to it within the hour probably

Conor O'Brien

oh ok thx

totallyhuman

02:01

i still have the emoji button tacoscript 😂

HyperNeutrino

Hey can someone check if this is valid? I've never done CnR before so I don't know if this is allowed.

Step Hen

@HyperNeutrino that seems completely fine to me :P

HyperNeutrino

yay lol

Conor O'Brien

omg that's amazing XD

Step Hen

^^

HyperNeutrino

02:05

what is

Step Hen

your crack

HyperNeutrino

oh yay people liked it :D

Step Hen

its so ingenious, and @WheatWizard thought it was doing a really good job stopping you :P

HyperNeutrino

lol

I wonder why it took me so long to do it

Conor O'Brien

he could avoid it by making a new one to delete that function :P

HyperNeutrino

02:06

I thought of it and I'm like "nah that won't work"

@ConorO'Brien yeah but too late :3 lol

Step Hen

@ConorO'Brien yup that's what I was thinking

but the damage is done :P

@HyperNeutrino now crack my obscure esolang :P

HyperNeutrino

He'd also have to remember os.sys because sys is pretty much the same thing as os.sys

Conor O'Brien

@DJMcMayhem I'll assume it's ok that the first have a syntax error, since wheat wizard's is like that

HyperNeutrino

@StepHen will look into it lol

Step Hen

@ConorO'Brien uh it's not supposed to...

Conor O'Brien

02:07

  File ".code.tio", line 5

             ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

from wheat wizard's own cnr, approved by the Dj himself

:P

Step Hen

@ConorO'Brien This code is not allowed to crash or exit.

Conor O'Brien

therefore wheat wizard's submission is invalid

HyperNeutrino

my first try involved looking through dir(everything), dir(), dir(dir), dir(()), dir([]), dir(`[]`), etc, but none of that made any sense.

Step Hen

@ConorO'Brien I agree, unless it runs without error in some environment I don't know about

DJMcMayhem

@ConorO'Brien Yes, that's true. I'll address that on the post I'm an hour or so

HyperNeutrino

02:09

uh oh D: hopefully I don't have to delete my solution. I mean, he could just delete the last line and change 4 to 3 and then I remove the first line of my solution

DJMcMayhem

Really terrible timing tbh

Conor O'Brien

rip

don't pressure yourself

Step Hen

First snippet being allowed to error out really changes the challenge imo

Since you can almost make it "make the second snippet do this and actually run"

HyperNeutrino

@DJMcMayhem Should I delete my Jelly cop-side post?

Step Hen

@HyperNeutrino Wait til it all gets clarified

HyperNeutrino

02:12

k

Step Hen

I still can't get over how perfect some of the Interstellar music is

DJMcMayhem

@HyperNeutrino If you want to. You could also let it get cracked

HyperNeutrino

Alright. It shouldn't take too long; I mean, the solution is literally staring you in the face once you see the crack (unless someone else figures out another cool solution)

Step Hen

@HyperNeutrino Why? It doesn't error out when you run just the first snippet (I believe)

DJMcMayhem

I already wrote the crack :P

HyperNeutrino

02:14

:o

@StepHen because I'm restricting the code to have no newlines

@DJMcMayhem will you post it? lol

Step Hen

@HyperNeutrino Do newlines make it really easy to crack?

HyperNeutrino

yes. If newlines are allowed, the solution is literally \n+

the newline just turns my snippet into another link and then it's ignored unless you call it lol

Step Hen

@HyperNeutrino And there's no way for you to easily prevent that?

HyperNeutrino

nope

Well, actually, yes. Let me go fix that. I can just remove newlines from the source code lol

Step Hen

@DJMcMayhem Code has to match a hash? That cries loophole

HyperNeutrino

02:20

Actually, still can't fix that. If you put a newline there, it won't remove it because it won't run the code to remove it

There is literally no way, easy or not, that I can prevent someone from just sticking a newline after it and not running any of my breaking code.

So if my restriction is not allowed, then this challenge excludes Jelly completely.

I bet Jon Skeet would be able to make a way other than just banning it though. And Dennis.

Just saw this answer. Perfect language for rep bait. Well done, @StepHen, well done. :P

ATaco

That is the correct answer.

Step Hen

@HyperNeutrino Yeah well, it took my four hours to make the original (look at the edit history), then EngineerToast cut my bytecount in half with actual golfed code. Thanks though, I spent an weekend afternoon on that :P

HyperNeutrino

ah :P But yeah, it's pretty amazing regardless :P

Also, 4 hours? Amateur (/s). I spent 10 hours on this one :P (lol)

Step Hen

@HyperNeutrino Python error messages are nowhere close to as hard to debug as Taxi error messages :P I spent most of that time getting it working and writing my own sqrt function. The actual problem was fairly trivial.

HyperNeutrino

ah yes true lol

Step Hen

02:29

I'd rather spend lots of time writing a solution to a hard problem than writing a solution to an easy problem that is hard because of platform choice

Conor O'Brien

you want a hard problem? Look at mine :)

HyperNeutrino

:o

I don't know C to begin with lol

@StepHen yeah true. that's why I only like Jelly for the challenge. It's shorter, but usually a lot harder except when the challenge is really trivial lol

Conor O'Brien

tfw you know this is going to be a good cnr :D

Step Hen

I knew it would be good when asked DJ 10+ questions about it this morning :)

Destructible Lemon

is there a koth/codechallenge based on 2d sideview racing?

Dennis

02:40

@HyperNeutrino Oh, that's why TIO's Taxi usage was so high today...

DJMcMayhem

Ok, I'm ready to answer stuff now

Conor O'Brien

@Dennis you have language usage diagnostics?

Step Hen

@Dennis Sowwy

Dennis

@DJMcMayhem Eh, you didn't have to delete your answer. You were the first to crack it.

@ConorO'Brien Not really. But since TIO made it on Hacker News, we've had some... issues and I've been keeping a closer eye on the servers than usual.

Conor O'Brien

oh ok

DJMcMayhem

02:42

@Dennis Yeah, but I want to see your solution

And I don't mind anyway

Dennis

Here: tio.run/##y0rNyan8//9Rw5y0/CKFZIXMPIXk/… :P

It's just an if statement instead of the newline. Not out of this world.

Step Hen

@DJMcMayhem non-native integers someone's tired or on mobile

DJMcMayhem

Dammit

@StepHen The latter

@WheatWizard Could you post your new code as a new answer instead?

Step Hen

@WheatWizard and make sure you account for os.sys like @HyperNeutrino said (if you have)

totallyhuman

wait are you supposed to patch cracks?

Step Hen

02:53

@totallyhuman not really

DJMcMayhem

Aaargh, there's so many questions people have, and I don't have time to answer all of them on my phone this is stressing me out! :/

Wheat Wizard

@DJMcMayhem Ok

@StepHen What is meant by that?

Dennis

03:28

@DJMcMayhem Just to check: byte count doesn't matter to robbers, yes?

DJMcMayhem

Yes

Dennis

curses himself for using yes in the question and is now confused

DJMcMayhem

Hahaha

Byte count doesn't matter

Dennis

Sweet, that means I can make my crack pretty.

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Thanks.

DJMcMayhem

Although it's weird that byte count doesn't matter to robbers, but it does in the safe snippet

Dennis

03:34

Not that weird. The cop pays a price for having a complicated solution. Whether the robber's solution is simple or complicated doesn't really matter.

DJMcMayhem

That's a good way of putting it

Wheat Wizard

Does anyone know a way I could prevent imports in python? I want to patch HyperNeutrino's crack

DJMcMayhem

I don't know of a way

Wheat Wizard

Or a better way I could break the language than setting the recursion limit low.

DJMcMayhem

I really hope you find it though. Your answer looks awesome

Wheat Wizard

03:36

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Q: Preventing Python code from importing certain modules?

I'm writing an application where users can enter a python script and execute it in a sandbox. I need a way to prevent the exec'ed code from importing certain modules, so malicious code won't be as much of a problem. Is there a way to do this in Python?

python module sandbox

@DJMcMayhem Hopefully its fixed now, I've disabled imports from os and sys

Anonymous

04:14

@Dennis Out-of-context quote for the day

Phoenix

CMC: Given an int array a, increment the first, fifth, ninth, etc element, decrement the third, seventh, eleven, etc element. E.g. 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 -> 1,0,-1,0,1,0,-1,0,1,0

Leaky Nun

@Phoenix Jelly, 5 bytes: Jı*Ċ+

Phoenix

@LeakyNun how does it work?

iirc Jelly uses _ for decrementing and it isn't present there.

Leaky Nun

Jı*Ċ+ z
J     [1 2 ... len(z)]
 ı*   [i**1 i**2 ... i**len(z)]
   Ċ  [1 0 -1 0 ...]
    + [z[1]+1 z[2]+0 ...]

@Phoenix it uses ’

Justin

I'm looking at the new CnR challenge and I'm thinking about posting a submission. Is it valid for the 2nd snippet to exit abnormally (I can fix it, but I'm curious)?

Anonymous

04:34

@Phoenix Actually, 11 bytes: ;r⌠╦½*C≈⌡M¥

Anonymous

Equivalent Python 2 code: from math import*;print[n+int(cos(pi/2*i))for i,n in enumerate(input())]

Dennis

@Mego Thank you for noticing this. >_>

ATaco

Hey @Phoenix I kind of wrote a thing that makes installing tacoscripts easier.

Anonymous

@Dennis Glad to help :D

ATaco

I feel safe in answering just about anything in the C&R because RProgN2 is a very poorly known language

Justin

04:49

@Justin Found the answer. Yes it is valid

Phoenix

@ATaco Cool! Link?

< insert Zelda character >

DJMcMayhem

@Justin Yes, that's valid

Justin

Would it be valid to restrict the language to, say, standard c++ (no extensions)?

DJMcMayhem

What do you mean? No includes?

Freaking autocorrect man

Justin

@Justin except the problem being that there'd have to be non-standard behavior / undefined behavior, but I want to, e.g. say you can't use __attribute__ and other gcc extensions

Jan Dvorak

05:01

Usually we don't like language-specific challenges

Justin

@JanDvorak I know, but I'm talking about for an answer for the CnR challenge

DJMcMayhem

@Justin I don't see why not

Phoenix

Languages are implementations, not specifications.

ATaco

@Phoenix a-ta.co/userscripts

Phoenix

Ty

Poll: Do you most often use :x or :wq to save and exit vim?

ATaco

05:10

:q!

Phoenix

I use :wq

ATaco

I don't save.

Phoenix

._.

Jan Dvorak

I don't exit vim

Phoenix

@ATaco no teamspirit.js?

ATaco

05:12

For two reasons, yes.

Firstly, it only appears in TNB, which makes implementing it along side a bunch of the others a pain. Secondly, it's not good.

The Projects page is also back up.

Phoenix

Neat

DJMcMayhem

@Phoenix I usually use ctrl-s <Space>q

Custom key-bindings ftw!

Justin

When handling chat spam flags, what does "valid" vs "invalid" mean? 1: The flag is valid/invalid. 2: The message is valid/invalid

DJMcMayhem

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Justin

Okay, time to make a meta post about the ambiguity

Justin

05:38

Dang I can't get my idea for the CnR problem to work. I wanted to make it so you had to use something obscure from the standard, but it turns out that you can simply use something pretty obvious. Maybe I should just post it

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Q: The answer to life, the universe, and ASCII-art

Simple challenge: try to output the following text in as few bytes as you can: the answer toli fetheuniv ersea nde ver ything the ans wer tol ife the uni ver sean dev ery thin gth ean swer tolifetheuni ...

code-golf ascii-art kolmogorov-complexity

Leaky Nun

08:02

why on earth does R need 32 bytes to store TRUE...

Challenger5

08:30

Has anybody written something to compress Jelly numbers?

Never mind, I found one.

Leaky Nun

@Challenger5 where?

Challenger5

There's a script written in Jelly to do it.

There's a TIO link on the "tips for golfing in Jelly" page.

Leaky Nun

oh ok

Challenger5

08:50

Also, is there a way to set an item in an array?

Leaky Nun

@Challenger5 there's a quick for operation on specific indices

Challenger5

Ah, that's probably what I wanted. Thanks!

Leaky Nun

09:02

my code solved PE#73 in 1.6 sec! \o/ \o/

Destructible Lemon

hey I had an idea for a koth based on a game type in worms

infinite prods and infinite teleports with 1 health worms

basically I would make a simplified version of this

also there were some turrets and mines

Challenger5

09:18

Are there any languages optimized for writing interpreters?

Destructible Lemon

I think?

Leaky Nun

@Challenger5 what interpreter do you want to write?

Challenger5

I want to write a program that will take an interpreter written in that language as input

For this challenge

Maybe some sort of rewriting system would work.

Ooh, maybe ShapeScript

Leaky Nun

the word "and" isn't in Jelly dictionary O_o @Dennis

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Destructible Lemon

what language should I use for my koth?

I mean I only program python but my last python koth didn't work out great

Challenger5

10:00

That doesn't necessarily have to do with the language...

Destructible Lemon

10:12

yeah but tbh its a contributing factor

programmer5000

What other scoring format do languages use other than bytes? I know piet uses codels, is there anything else?

Destructible Lemon

scratch tends to use blocks

TheLethalCoder

@Cowsquack Will you be considering adding any other types to Carrot? For example, booleans?

@Cowsquack Or the ability to test for (truthy/falsey)ness?

totallyhuman

10:36

@DestructibleLemon scratch is not scored by blocks anymore

Minecraft is scored by blytes

Oh hey I got bronze number badge

Erik the Outgolfer

11:15

@LeakyNun the word "AND" is

Leaky Nun

@EriktheOutgolfer O_o

Erik the Outgolfer

then you can do "AND", " AND", "aND" and " aND"

of course I don't really know whether any one of them is going to be useful...except maybe from the second one

Beta Decay

What's the point of a git commit message?

How is this going to help anyone? :p

Erik the Outgolfer

I think it's just for checkpoints or something?

like, mnemonic stuff

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Q: Need php script for genetic calculation

favorite I have website and phpBB forum. I need a programmed script like this: it is like a genetic calculator. should have DB with tables and I add predefined inputs about the mutation of the male and the female and the result of the breeding of each couple. the main page has drop-down selec...

javascript php

Beta Decay

11:25

gimme-teh-codez

Step Hen

@BetaDecay So that when you want to find when you implemented something or when a bug comes back and you want to remember how you fixed it last time, it doesn't take an hour of grepping through numeric commits :P

Beta Decay

@StepHen I see...

totallyhuman

my rep is exactly at 3999

Step Hen

HNQ is so broken

totallyhuman

it's based on a curve

lower traffic sites have higher chances of hitting hnq

Step Hen

11:38

@totallyhuman I know what the algorithm is, it's just crazy how much we get up there compared to every other site

totallyhuman

1. be a low traffic site with questions that instantly get loads of answers
2. ???
3. profit!

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programmer5000

Just curious, is anyone aware of a language whose name starts with [ and ends with ]?

Sp3000

p-nand-q.com/programming/languages/brackets.html , technically

Destructible Lemon

we constantly get to hnq but they still won't give us a design

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programmer5000

@Sp3000 Has that been used on PPCG?

We also have the highest a to q ratio, by > 2x

Sp3000

11:55

codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/58851 - I want to say it's been used in more places but frankly I don't remember whether I've used it on site yet

SIGSEGV

Is there a language where every program is a self interpreter

If not do we want one

I want one, I really want an 'original' esolang

totallyhuman

no it wouldn't satisfy language requirements

SIGSEGV

Oh

Anyone have an original esolang idea

totallyhuman

Ey 4k

I now can vtd :D

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Q: Azure IoT Hub UDP Implementation

We are working on a NB-IoT project that uses a GSM/GPRS module. This module supports IPv4, UDP and CoAP protocols. We want to monitor the data, which is coming from NB-IoT module, on Azure IoT Hub. But, Azure IoT Hub only supports AMQP, MQTT and HTTP protocols. On the other hand, Azure IoT Hub pr...

code-golf

Xanderhall

I love seeing questions that are already deep in the negatives by the time they hit here

TheLethalCoder

RE: the sandbox (as I've just been reading over the latest meta post about it). Is it possible to timelock new questions so they can't be answered within that limit?

Leaky Nun

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Q: The answer to life, the universe, and ASCII-art

Simple challenge: try to output the following text in as few bytes as you can: the answer toli fetheuniv ersea nde ver ything the ans wer tol ife the uni ver sean dev ery thin gth ean swer tolifetheuni ...

code-golf ascii-art kolmogorov-complexity

Should I hammer it open?

cc @muddyfish

totallyhuman

Somebody else hammered it open

Leaky Nun

Arnauld did.

TheLethalCoder

12:38

I don't see how anyone could say that was a dupe in the first place.

Of that one at least

AdmBorkBork

KC challenges regularly get closed as a dupe of Rickroll

Okx

If it's not closed as a dupe of the rickroll at least once, it's not a KC challenge.

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AdmBorkBork

@Okx Dang. Neither of my two KC challenges were dupe-closed. Does that mean I'm doing it wrong?

Okx

Yes.

Step Hen

Yay first gold badge

totallyhuman

12:48

Nice

Jan Dvorak

What page of sandbox should my unvoted post reach before it's eligible for being posted anyways?

Step Hen

@JanDvorak You can post it whenever, but I'd suggest sticking it in chat a couple times, make people look at it

Okx

post it here so we can take a look at it?

totallyhuman

And wait for a week

Jan Dvorak

OK. Hold on...

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Compute the antipode of a point on curve code-golf ascii-art A curve is a set of points on a square grid such that each point has exactly two neighbors in the four-neighbor neighborhood and the points form a single connected component. That is, the graph induced by the points on a grid graph is...

trichoplax

12:51

@JanDvorak I wouldn't worry about what page it's on - it's best to sort by active rather than votes. If it goes a week without getting upvotes but there isn't anything specified that you need to improve, just posting it in here usually helps (like you have...).

Jan Dvorak

scribbles down "1 week -> chat" Thanks

Step Hen

We really really really need a way to see how many people have looked over a Sandbox post, like question views

Should we start putting a comment on each new Sandbox post that says "upvote this if you saw this"?

Cows quack

@TheLethalCoder A boolean stack existed in the earliest version of Carrot, but I have since removed it. If you see the TODO-list in the oldest issue in Carrot's GH repo, you can see that stackBool is a planned feature. But now, I am thinking of whether or not I should use the stack float instead for simplicity (in which case it would be 0 for false and 1 for true).

Jan Dvorak

One more benefit of using questions as sandbox

totallyhuman

@StepHen no

Step Hen

12:53

@JanDvorak You know what, we just need a codegolf.sandbox.stackexchange.com site

Meta is not the place for Sandbox questions, but Sandboxed challenges make so much more sense as questions

Cows quack

@TheLethalCoder (and yes, equality testing is again a planned feature) Now what do you think would be better, having a separate stack type for booleans, or using stackFloat for that instead?

TheLethalCoder

@Cowsquack Floats as bools seems fine too. If you're doing that though, would empty strings, arrays and regexes also be false with other's true? Or would you just be going for only floats as ints.

Jan Dvorak

fourth level domain, really?

TheLethalCoder

@Cowsquack I think floats as bools is fine really.

Step Hen

@JanDvorak Meta is codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com

Maybe we can get a separate Sandbox site for a graduation present

TheLethalCoder

12:57

I think the separate site idea got shot down when it was proposed.

By us, not the stack exchange team I mean anyway

Step Hen

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A: Sandbox good for its own subdomain?

I'm Grace Note, a Community Manager at Stack Exchange. Originally, I was writing this answer explaining the mechanical issues with this idea. I won't bore with details, though, but in the long run, migration (and especially chain migration) is pretty messy and this would be a mess to implement. ...

trichoplax

@StepHen I know what you mean, but personally if I've taken the time to read a sandbox post, I've probably left a comment, and if I haven't, I haven't seen the views comment either.

Jan Dvorak

Thanks for the review

trichoplax

You're welcome. The week guideline is just a rough estimate, by the way. Some people say a few days. It's just so that several people have a chance to see it, since the sandbox isn't viewed as much as main.

Jan Dvorak

What are the chances of someone noticing once my question is on the third page of sandbox?

Step Hen

13:02

@JanDvorak There are a few good souls who browse past the first page of active on Sandbox

Jan Dvorak

Nice

TheLethalCoder

@StepHen Hadn't seen that but I meant in one of the more recent meta posts about the sandbox

Jan Dvorak

Let me just scroll down and check behind that rock. Annnnd ... nope, page copyright year starts with '19'. Oh God, is this a WEBRING?

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Cows quack

@TheLethalCoder Only floats as bools for now, but many of these subtler things, like falsey vs truthy strings, will have to be tested out in the wild in PPCG after I finish the rewrite

trichoplax

@JanDvorak Certainly slimmer... If in doubt, post it in here. Unless it's excessive, the number of days shouldn't really matter too much so just judge it for yourself

Jan Dvorak

13:04

Thanks

trichoplax

@JanDvorak This reminds me of realising how old the article I was reading was when it started referring to "weblogs" and "The Wikipedia"

Jan Dvorak

:-D

Xanderhall

@JanDvorak Then you try to search for something obscure from two decades ago and have to go to the fourth page to find it

Jan Dvorak

If you need to visit the second page of Google to get your result ... your time is better spent improving the search query

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Q: Octal Calculator with Primality check

Problem Build an octal calculator that can do the following operations: Add (+) Subtract (-) Multiply (*) Divide (/) Check is prime So given input a b c a being a number in octal b being an operator (+, -, *, /) not is prime c being a number in octal Output the expression evaluated as ab...

code-golf number

TheLethalCoder

13:10

@Cowsquack Yeah sounds better than just adding for the sake of it.

AdmBorkBork

@JanDvorak brb, making a webring sandbox

Jan Dvorak

DansGame

Step Hen

@JanDvorak Wait, Google doesn't magically know exactly what I want, even when I use a bad query?

Jan Dvorak

Well... sometimes

Sometimes Google knows what you want better than you do, even. Want a new fridge? You do now.

Step Hen

@JanDvorak Well... Jon Skeet does work at Google, after all.

flawr

13:26

@Riker QED :D

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Q: Old Cordless Phone

I need to call my friends but the buttons of my cordless phone are not working properly. The only buttons I can press are [Up], [Down] and [Call]. [Up] and [Down] can be used to navigate in my recent calls and [Call] can be used to call the selected name. My phone has a list that holds N recent c...

code-golf array-manipulation

flawr

@Riker yep, anything you find odd? :)

(except that I've never seen two girls riding bikes with guns on their back.)

But right, the weapons probably do not have anything to do with the crime rate. The large part of those weapons are service wepons.

Cows quack

@DestructibleLemon what happened to the spaceship circle koth?

flawr

And I agree that a good social security + mandatory insurances have a big influces as well as the fact that everything is very densely populated, so e.g. police etc arrive very quickly when you need them. And even if you consider e.g. all the burglaries/thefts only a few of them are actually armed in comparision to other contries, so there is much less a "stand your ground"- than a "reduce possibility of any harm and let the pros do their job" mentality.

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Count to 15 with Words! Using the following list(s) of words: https://github.com/first20hours/google-10000-english Print 1 word from each unique length all the way up to 15, here's a valid example: a an and hand hands handle handles abandons abandoned understand outstanding newfoundland under...

Step Hen

13:36

@flawr Plus the benefit of being a smaller, relatively well-off country that can actually afford and regulate said benefits and regulations easily

LiefdeWen

@EriktheOutgolfer yes?

Erik the Outgolfer

huh?

trichoplax

@NewSandboxedPosts This looks like a really interesting challenge.

AdmBorkBork

Yeah. Challenges where you not only golf your code but golf your output are interesting.

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Like 5 favorite letters.

Anders Kaseorg

13:52

Speaking of that, someone want to give codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/132725/39242 a last reopen vote?

trichoplax

Jul 30 '16 at 19:21, by Lynn

Oh, it’s the ENABLE word list

( @MagicOctopusUrn that probably won't be free of expletives, but it's a very full list)

AdmBorkBork

@trichoplax Interesting. First I've heard of ENABLE

trichoplax

@AdmBorkBork Sorry for the random ping - I mixed up your avatar with MagicOctopusUrn

AdmBorkBork

I get that a lot

trichoplax

I thought that word list might be useful for the challenge

@StepHen thanks for picking up on my mistake - I wouldn't have noticed it without your intervention

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