The Nineteenth Byte

muddyfish

21:00

A length-filter is not a valid protection against SQL injection, and prepared statements really are the only proper defense.

This is the only valid answer. SQL without Prepared Statements remind me of "Strategies how to ride a dead horse" — Alexander 2 days ago

Riker

@Mego it appears to be an explanation of why riding a dead horse is dumb

> 21. "Promoting the dead horse to a supervisory position.(My personal favorite!)

mınxomaτ

This site looks like one of these not-quite-right clones of existing sites used for movie productions to fill computer screens.

Riker

uh nvm

@mınxomaτ ye

@MartinEnder added a test case for that

DJMcMayhem

@Pavel x != n or x! == n

Anonymous

@Pavel Actually, 7 bytes: ;R`!Míu

flawr

21:04

@Pavel What kind of example do you have in mind where it would be impossible to find a an integer such taht x!=n?

Anonymous

(assuming you meant factorial)

flawr

ooooh.

DJMcMayhem

@Pavel vim, one byte: <C-a>

muddyfish

Pyke, ~~7~~ bytes: ~1#SBq

DJMcMayhem

MATL, too many bytes: Try it online!

Martin Ender

21:09

Mathematica, 39 33: InverseFunction[#!&]@#/._@_->0>1& (there's probably something shorter, but I don't get to use InverseFunction a lot...

slow joke was too slow

Luis Mendo

@DJMcMayhem In fact, it can be made done with 6 bytes: t:Yp=f

(produces no output (falsy) if impossible)

Unless I'm missing something...

DJMcMayhem

@LuisMendo oh, duh

That's beautiful

Luis Mendo

:-)

betseg

makes me think about my country

Check Out Tomato

Hi, I'm building a 3D printer, can you please check over my list of parts (other than printed parts)?

amazon.com/gp/registry/wishlist/1VVABRATGO0X5

Taken mostly from github.com/revarbat/snappy-reprap/wiki/BOM

flawr

21:17

@CheckOutTomato I think you're in the wrong room.

Check Out Tomato

@flawr This is TNB, correct?

What is the 3D printing room?

flawr

@CheckOutTomato go to 3dprinting.SE

TuxCopter

The chatroom of 3dprinting.stackexchange.com

Dammit ninja'd

Check Out Tomato

Thanks

flawr

Oddly enough, I still prefer 2d printing

Check Out Tomato

21:19

Their chatroom is dead. 0/10

Thomas Ward

have you considered asking on their site, or is that offtopic?

because i don't think this is the right room for your question

mınxomaτ

Just ordered a mozzarella and tomato salad. Apparently they ran out of mozzarella. How can I tell? Well last I checked, mozzarella wasn't actually just 2cm thick blocks of cheese analogue.

Riker

hahaha

flawr

lol, disgusting

Business Cat

@Pavel Brachylog, 2 bytes ~ḟ (took me way too long to figure out how to use this)

Riker

21:24

@TuxCopter neither of you used the 3D Printing abbreviation? lol

flawr

@Fatalize At some point you should make the counterpart: Brachyexp

TuxCopter

Oops, forgotten this is a thing

mınxomaτ

@flawr That sounds like a drug designed to make you vomit.

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Riker

@TuxCopter lel

ETHproductions

Crayon is now officially a working language! \o/

4

(It's got a long ways to go before it's usable, though...)

Riker

21:26

:o nice!

TuxCopter

@ETHproductions :D

Ductr Tape

is there a ><> interpreter with debugging except from fishlanguage.com?

flawr

@ETHproductions what is it about?

Riker

@DuctrTape don't think so, sp3000 might have one though

ETHproductions

Installation instructions can be found in the repo, if anyone's interested (I haven't tried them myself though)

@flawr It's a stack-based golfing lang designed for producing ASCII-art

Right now it pretty much only has input and output

Downgoat

21:28

@ETHproductions why not publish to npm?

as simple as $ npm publish

ETHproductions

There's already a package called crayon I believe

Downgoat

You can do crayon-lang

ETHproductions

yeah, I'm considering that

It'd be cumbersome to type that in every time you want to run it though

flawr

how about craycray?

4

ETHproductions

or I could golf the name and do cryn

CalculatorFeline

21:31

Crying?

ETHproductions

exactly :P

Downgoat

@ETHproductions binary name and npm name dont need to be the same

ETHproductions

But if you install with npm install -g they will be, right?

(excuse me if this is a dumb question, this is my first experience with creating non-browser software/publishing something on npm)

TuxCopter

@ETHproductions In the package.json you can set the name of the executable

Riker

@Downgoat hey, how goes goathub/gitgoat?

I have some time, I can try to install it on an ipad now

also, can I have a github invite link?

Thomas Ward

21:36

@Riker lol, they have invite links? xD

Riker

idk

but it's a priv repo so

Thomas Ward

ah

@Riker that's a permission, not an invite link

Riker

never used them before so idk

Thomas Ward

they need to add your account to the access list

Riker

@Downgoat can you do ^^ pls thankee

ETHproductions

21:39

@TuxCopter If I understand correctly, doing "bin": {"crayon": "./index.js"} will create a command crayon that calls ./index.js?

Downgoat

@Riker ok I can give permission but I haven't committed in long time

will commit when I get cone

Riker

kk

TuxCopter

@ETHproductions I think

ETHproductions

Oh wait... that's already set up

I'm so dumb :P

So I can change the name of the package with no effects on the command

Pavel

I was gone for an hour and have 5 items in my inbox now.

ETHproductions

21:41

brb publishing crayon-lang on npm

Pavel

What could it be?

Oh right I made a CMC before I left.

Riker

:D got it @Downgoat

Poke

securityreactions.tumblr.com/post/157949358913/…

Riker

@DJMcMayhem O_o what that do

Poke

noot noot

Pavel

21:46

@Poke noot noot?

Poke

see above link

DJMcMayhem

@Riker Try it! Enter a number, ESC to normal mode and press ctrl-a

Pavel

Tumblr is blocked

ETHproductions

crayon-lang should be uploaded to npm now.

Poke

@Pavel It's a pingu gif

Pavel

21:47

@DJMcMayhem What if I can't vim right now. And how does it compute inverse factorial?

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

[Br]eaking Code Golf [Ba]d code-golf Consider the following string: Tin Snips This string contains several atomic symbols on the periodic table. We could rewrite this string to identify several of them: [Ti][N] [Sn][I][P][S] Of course, we could also write it this way: T[In] [S][Ni][P][S]...

DJMcMayhem

@Pavel it doesn't. Your challenge was ambiguous

46 mins ago, by DJMcMayhem

@Pavel x != n or x! == n

Pavel

Ok

That explains everything

ETHproductions

Ohhhh, I saw x != n too

DJMcMayhem

Also, to answer your other question, Try it online!

#windowspythondeveloperproblems I have 5 different versions/locations of Python installed

Pavel

21:51

I only have 2 and 3

I could also see having PyPy.

Downgoat

@Riker invite link? Btw app is not optimized for iPad so might look weird

Pavel

How do you have 5?

Thomas Ward

@Downgoat he wants access to the private git

he doesn't understand githubness

CalculatorFeline

Probably 0.9, 1.6, 2.7, 3.5, and 3.6.

DJMcMayhem

@Pavel 2.7, 3.6, 3.5, and accidentally two locations for 3.5 (x86)

Pavel

21:53

@ETHproductions how to get?

@DJMcMayhem You should delete three of those

ETHproductions

I think you can just do npm install crayon-lang -g

If that doesn't work I've no idea what I did wrong

Pavel

What's the -g for?

Downgoat

@ETHproductions golfed npm i -g crayon-Lang

ETHproductions

It installs it globally. idk if you actually need it

DJMcMayhem

@Pavel I do actually need all of them (except for the dup)

Downgoat

21:54

@Pavel installs globally instead of as a dependency to current folder

Pavel

Ok

CalculatorFeline

What's wrong with 3.6 over 3.5?

Pavel

@DJMcMayhem Why do you need 3.5 AND 3.6?

DJMcMayhem

3.5 for (and 3.5 x86) for development, 2.7 and 3.6 for golfing :P

ckjbgames

Greetings!

Pavel

21:55

@DJMcMayhem Why can't you develop with 3.6?

ckjbgames

So, I don't want to start a war or anything, but what is your favorite text editor?

I like Vim btw

Anonymous

@DJMcMayhem I feel your pain. 2.7 32-bit, 2.7 64-bit, 3.5 32-bit, 3.5 64-bit, 3.6 64-bit, pypy2 64-bit, and pypy3 64-bit

DJMcMayhem

@ckjbgames I'm pretty sure everybody in here knows my favorite. ;)

CalculatorFeline

Textedit. It's better than anything else because it's on my computer.

ckjbgames

@DJMcMayhem Same :)

Riker

21:57

@Downgoat already got it it's cool

ckjbgames

I am still fine with Emacs, and I am surprised no one has made a golfing language based on it

Anonymous

Plus cygwin versions of 2.7 and 3.5

DJMcMayhem

@ckjbgames challenge accepted

Anonymous

So 9 total versions of Python installed

ckjbgames

@DJMcMayhem Entirely in Emacs Lisp

Anonymous

21:57

Still less disk space than MSVS

Pavel

@Mego Do you need all those?

Riker

tfw you find a reddit post by doorknob

Anonymous

@Pavel Probably not

Pavel

'cause it sounds like you should burn your hard drive.

Anonymous

I'm 90% certain that burning my hard drive would summon a daemon

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Pavel

21:58

Or, alternatively, install a fresh copy of Gentoo

DJMcMayhem

@Pavel idk, cause customer is using 3.5? (I think, not entirely sure tbh)

CalculatorFeline

So?

Anonymous

I originally had 2.7 and 3.5 32-bit versions installed for personal/dev use (32-bit because that was the default). I installed 64-bit versions for PPCG purposes. I've had the cygwin versions for ages because cygwin is essential. Then came pypy2 and pypy3 for Seriously stuff and more PPCG stuff. Then I installed 3.6 to test it out.

DJMcMayhem

I'm not actually writing (much) Python. I'm writing C/C++ interfaced to Python. Each version has it's own DLL's

@Mego Hah. I missed that earlier. +1

ckjbgames

@DJMcMayhem Do you know Emacs Lisp?

Anonymous

22:02

@DJMcMayhem I also write some C/C++ with Python, so juggling all the libraries for those 9 different versions is quite the challenge

DJMcMayhem

@ckjbgames not at all

ckjbgames

@DJMcMayhem This must be the ultimate challenge, to write an Emacs golfing language in Emacs Lisp.

DJMcMayhem

I've thought about learning/golfing in it just to screw with people who know I'm a vim fanatic, and for the challenge, but never gotten around to it

@Mego Oh really? That's good to know. Do you use boost Python?

ckjbgames

@DJMcMayhem I have learned a little bit of Emacs Lisp

betseg

codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/111932/56721 "Go to the online JavaScript Conway life simulator. Click import, paste the design text. You should see the design. Then, go to settings and set the generation step to 512, or something around those lines, or you'll have to wait forever to see the clock display updating." help there are no buttons on the site

Anonymous

22:05

@DJMcMayhem Nope. I mostly just do simple C/C++ extensions

DJMcMayhem

That's too bad. I wish I had someone to cry to in here when I get confused by boost.

Which is pretty much all the time

Anonymous

I've used other parts of Boost before

Anonymous

So I can kinda sympathize

ckjbgames

I see in the starred messages there was a conversation about [this](coding2learn.org/blog/2013/07/29/kids-cant-use-computers)

Oops

Screwed up my Markdown

NonlinearFruit

Quick question. This answer was deleted by a moderator. I believe I've fixed the problem and I've flagged it for moderator attention. Is there anything else I should do?

Anonymous

22:17

@NonlinearFruit Nope. A mod will take care of it.

DJMcMayhem

Not really. That's some impressive dedication though!

mbomb007

@MartinEnder Why can't I vote to close a question after I voted to close, then it was closed, then reopened? codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/111991/34718

NonlinearFruit

Thanks! I'll chill and see what happens

Pavel

@mbomb007 To prevent close-reopen wars where a question is repeatedly closed and reopened.

mbomb007

I suppose, but it really is still unclear, as I commented about.

Another topic, it turns out that this exists: "Now in beta: query the Stack Exchange API real-time using SQL. See online-sql-editor.com and select Stack Exchange." - meta.stackexchange.com/users/245360/patrick-hofman

Pavel

22:25

But no one likes SQL, so is it really that significant?

mbomb007

If SE uses SQL, then someone there must like it.

Like the user whose profile I took that from.

betseg

@mbomb007 noone likes PHP yet lots of people still use it /s

DJMcMayhem

22:41

Yet again, TNB is responsible for an obscure chat bug report

11

We should edit every TNB caused bug report into a chain like the "crossed out 44" chain, haha

13

Pavel

I second this proposal.

Anonymous

@DJMcMayhem Or maybe just maintain a list somewhere (not on meta though)

DJMcMayhem

It would be perfect for the many memes page if it weren't locked

Anonymous

@DJMcMayhem "we broke it again"

Pavel

@DJMcMayhem *grumble grumble*

betseg

22:44

@DJMcMayhem I didn't know we had a 44 chain and I just skipped it what do I do now halp

Jan Dvorak

22:56

I'm curious, who tracks the current tail of of crossed out 44?

Downgoat

@Riker :O it is working?

Riker

23:12

Dunno

Can't test

Not at comp or ipad

Riker

23:29

@DJMcMayhem :o your V challenge hit HNQ!

DJMcMayhem

@Riker Yeah, I know. It was at #1 for half the day

Riker

23:46

:o nice!

@Downgoat how do I install gitgoat/

Downgoat

@Riker do you have xcode

Riker

on what

on my mac? yes

Downgoat

Okay open the Xcodeproj in xcode

Riker

@DJMcMayhem thrice is pretty freaking good

Downgoat

Wait you need cocapod

okay install cocapods first

Riker

23:50

I like the alchmemy album

@Downgoat kk

@Downgoat projects.digitalwaters.net/cocopad.html?

Downgoat

@Riker cocoa pods is non-typoed name

Riker

ah kk

@Downgoat xcode command line stuff right

Downgoat

what about them?

Riker

that's what you mean by xcode right

@DJMcMayhem this is giving me stranger things flashbacks

Downgoat

You need like Xcode app

Like one you open up and it shows in dock

Riker

23:55

ah ok

@Downgoat is there any way to install it without a developer apple id :|

Downgoat

It ok that don't cost $$

Riker

ah ok

how make one though

Downgoat

Developer.apple.com

Riker

ah kk

Downgoat

Should be button there

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