The Nineteenth Byte

El'endia Starman

20:00

I like absurdibits. :P (Maybe it should be Geobit's new name?)

Geobits

I'd drop that first I, but maybe...

PhiNotPi

@HelkaHomba It could win at the "output the language name" challenge.

TùxCräftîñg

web.archive.org

is down o_o

El'endia Starman

@TùxCräftîñg Uh, not for me. o.O

TùxCräftîñg

o.O

Geobits

20:02

Yep, works here

TùxCräftîñg

ah it simply dont liked https

PhiNotPi

Seems working, it redirects to archive.org/web

Geobits

Wow, RAM is much more compressible than I thought. I just got 32GB from downloadmoreram.com and it only had to download 4097kB. Very nice 10/10

TùxCräftîñg

it use the ggz4 format

Geobits

Hmm. Actually it's kinda suspicious now that I think about it. If I was getting fresh RAM it should be all zeroes, right? So it should compress much smaller than that. I think they're giving me used memory :/

TùxCräftîñg

20:08

:/

zyabin101

CMC: create your own board game. :P

TùxCräftîñg

How not to deal with an expired SSL Certificate http://st.cm/1CY28vg http://t.co/FehGNvQsF8

Tweeted by servertastic on April 9, 2015 at 10:29 AM

zyabin101

(This CMC means chat mega challenge.)

Geobits

@TùxCräftîñg It recommends using something besides Firefox, so it's not all a bad response.

Helka Homba

"I'd want this tech thing the most" - strawpoll.me/11219147

Geobits

20:19

The emulator option is pretty much reality already if you have the internet >_>

Helka Homba

Yeah but they're glitchy and unofficial

flawr

@HelkaHomba None of them o_o

TùxCräftîñg

> glitchy

@HelkaHomba none

Helka Homba

@TùxCräftîñg ?

Yodle

A completely wireless computer would be pretty cool.

TùxCräftîñg

20:20

emulators arent glitchy

Geobits

@HelkaHomba Meh. I've had pretty good luck I guess. If that means I can only play 99% of the thousands upon thousands of games, so be it ;)

@TùxCräftîñg Some are, but I agree that for basically anything pre-2000, they work fine.

El'endia Starman

@HelkaHomba Self-driving cars FTW! Oh, and free wireless internet absolutely everywhere. Maybe not in that order.

Geobits

I mean, I've had PS1 emulators on my phone work just fine on almost all games.

TùxCräftîñg

the only problems i have with emulators are Project64 crashing somtimes and Dolphin eating more ram than Java

and the speakers get mad also

Geobits

Yeah Dolphin is a beast sometimes, and I still can't get it to run Xenoblade Chronicles smoothly, but that's 2010, not <2000.

TimmyD

20:23

> get rid of any bad not letters

El'endia Starman

My laptop isn't powerful enough to run Melee on Dolphin. :(

TùxCräftîñg

i use Dolphin only for Gamecube

Helka Homba

@TùxCräftîñg Paper mario on an android n64 emulator was very glitchy for me

TùxCräftîñg

> android

flawr

@El'endiaStarman earthobservatory.nasa.gov/blogs/earthmatters/files/2016/09/…

mınxomaτ

20:23

@El'endiaStarman btw, have you seen the smashbot DC talk?

Geobits

@HelkaHomba Use a real computer for that :/

Helka Homba

@TùxCräftîñg I've had issues with dolphin on pc too

(or project64, I forget)

mınxomaτ

DEF CON 24 (2016) - Game Over, Man! – Reversing Video Games to Create an Unbeatable AI Player

►

^ amazing development

Helka Homba

Point is, of course, they can be glitchy

El'endia Starman

@mınxomaτ Watching now.

TùxCräftîñg

20:25

f-zero gx crash sometimes with project64, and the speakers went mad with mario sunshine on dolphin

Geobits

@HelkaHomba Sure, they can be. But if even the console/emulator in your poll is limited to "(practically) all the games", I'd say we're already there.

Helka Homba

I suppose

Geobits

My most used emulators are probably NES/SNES on my 3DS though :D

TùxCräftîñg

NES on PC

to edit random memory locations and watch mario die because of a red bowser while flying

Geobits

I mainly like the portability.

TimmyD

20:29

My most used emulator is WoW64

Geobits

@TùxCräftîñg This remind me of playing with my Game Genie :)

Dennis

@ConorO'Brien Done.

There was noting to pull though.

@TùxCräftîñg Done.

TùxCräftîñg

thanks

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Illuminati is Illuminati This is a popularity contest inspired by a dedicated scratch programmer who made the program here: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/117836320/. What the program does, is it takes in a string, and links the string to the Illuminati. This scratch program is especially popu...

zyabin101

933 rep

Gotta get that thought room someday...

Beta Decay

20:36

Why is everyone going on about climate change so much recently?

TùxCräftîñg

scratch.mit.edu/projects/117836320

^ best thing ever o_o

flawr

@BetaDecay cause xkcd

New Meta Posts

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Q: Are there any repercussions for stealing Ideas off the sandbox?

I haven't seen it done myself, but are there any examples of people stealing other's challenges off the sandbox to use themselves? what happened to those questions/users?

discussion

flawr

Does anyone have an idea for more testcases here: meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/9829/24877 ?

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

20:58

CMC: Find my single deleted question on PPCG

TùxCräftîñg

my internet connection isnt cooperative >_<

flawr

14 mins ago, by flawr

Does anyone have an idea for more testcases here: http://meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/9829/24877 ?

TùxCräftîñg

i tried a speedtest.net but the page dont have loaded yet

i opened the tab 10mn ago

Dennis

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ Can I play?

zyabin101

@Dennis Yup.

TùxCräftîñg

21:07

he's a mod

he can find the deleted question easily ._.

Dennis

It's a trick question anyway.

DJMcMayhem

Why is that?

Dennis

Because reasons. :P (I don't think I'm allowed to divulge anything I can see in a profile if others can't, unless I get an OK from @ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ.)

@DJMcMayhem Why is that not a real challenge?

DJMcMayhem

@Dennis Idk, cause I haven't gotten around to it?

Do you think it should be?

El'endia Starman

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ I probably could, in fact. Gimme a little bit.

Dennis

21:13

@DJMcMayhem I like it, but I guess I'm biased because there's a 3-byte Jelly solution. :P

DJMcMayhem

Wow. You should teach it to me so I can post the challenge in the middle of the night and FGITW it. :P

TùxCräftîñg

20mn: speedtest.net is at 80% of loading

DJMcMayhem

Possible title: StringgnirtSStringgnirtSStringgnirtS

TùxCräftîñg

omgyes speedtest is loaded

black screen

i need to reload it :/

Dennis

@DJMcMayhem As long as you don't apply the transformation to your explanation, it's all good.

Nathan Merrill

21:16

oO

xkcd.com/simplewriter

Zero and Nine aren't in the top 10K words

DJMcMayhem

@Dennis HahaahaHHahaahaH

Nathan Merrill

but every other digit is

TùxCräftîñg

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻

my internet connection is officially dead

Dennis

@NathanMerrill Can't say I'm surprised. For a long time, zero wasn't even considered a number. I guess 9 is just rounded up.

Nathan Merrill

I get zero more as well (people often say "none")

but 9?

6,7,8 are all in the top 10K, but not 9?

flawr

21:19

feature-request automatic censoring of words that are not in the top 10k

DJMcMayhem

> thing to please do: don't say word if word not easy word

TùxCräftîñg

haha my message timeouted

1b/s approved

Nathan Merrill

also: "understandings"

Adnan

@Dennis There is also a 3-byte 2sable answer, so I'm guessing this is going to become some kind of cowboy duel.

If it gets posted of course

DJMcMayhem

Maybe I need to make it harder

Adnan

21:23

aww

DJMcMayhem

57 in my naïve python attempt

flawr

TùxCräftîñg

wat

El'endia Starman

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ Well, doesn't seem to be in TNBDE. I guess either the feed bot's message was edited or your question was deleted first, so the feed bot's message has messed up content.

Dennis

@Adnan I'm usually hovering main like a vulture, but until TIO v2 is released, you should have a head start.

Speaking of TIO, thanks again! :)

New Sandboxed Posts

21:27

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Yes, Yeah, Maybe, Zlich code-golf If the input is one of these words, with a separator of your choosing: yes, yeah, yea, okay, ok, indeed (Note: uppercase and lowercase doesn't matter) Output a truthy value. no, nada, blank, naught, zero, zilch, nought, void,n othing Output a falsely val...

TùxCräftîñg

i found a 26-bytes solution in straw

Adnan

@Dennis Hahaha, no problem :)

flawr

Does anyone have any suggestios for interesting testcases for meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/2140/…

TheBitByte

Hello guys!

TùxCräftîñg

!syug olleH

TheBitByte

21:32

Do it for this.

TùxCräftîñg

CMC: Take a string, reverse it and print it

straw: <">

zyabin101

I think it's a dupe of a challenge, I don't know which.

Adnan

@TùxCräftîñg 05AB1E: R

flawr

@TùxCräftîñg Matlab: @flip

TheBitByte

@TùxCräftîñg English language, 8 bytes: gnirts a

TùxCräftîñg

21:33

xD

but it's a standard loophole

TheBitByte

Do standard loopholes matter in CMCs?

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@Dennis Why not, it was a stupid question anyway, I'll allow it :p

Dennis

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/49193/… codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/49741/…

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

(I personally can't even find it myself it's so old)

@Dennis Huh, I made 2

Dennis

28 mins ago, by Dennis

It's a trick question anyway.

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

21:36

SE knows more about me than I know about myself :/

I only remembered the first one

TheBitByte

@Dennis It 404s for me. If mods and possibly 10k+ are who can see it, why post it?

DJMcMayhem

I don't remember how many I have. I know I have at least one

Dennis

38 mins ago, by ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

CMC: Find my single deleted question on PPCG

DJMcMayhem

Oh that's right, I have two

TùxCräftîñg

CMC: Shortest C compiler

TheBitByte

21:38

CMC: Find a sandbox challenge without comments yet and honestly critique it.

@TùxCräftîñg Does TinyC count? Or are there any shorter compilers?

DJMcMayhem

I also have 23 deleted answers >_<

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@TheBitByte I actually have a copy of that on the school servers, as it requires no installation :p

zyabin101

@TùxCräftîñg Is there a minimal subset on how much to implement?

TùxCräftîñg

K&R

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

Oh, I was thinking OTCC :p

TùxCräftîñg

21:41

what the lolz is this black magic O_o

zyabin101

Uhh, I give up.

TheBitByte

@TùxCräftîñg 7zip command line, 52 bytes (not counting directory names and assuming that the resulting archive is called a.7z): 7z a -t7z -m0=lzma -mx=9 -mfb=64 -md=32m -ms=on a.7z dirname (60 bytes with the placeholder of "dirname", 52 bytes without the placeholder)

DJMcMayhem

@Dennis I hit the rep cap like 10 hours ago, and I'm going for socratic, so I'm not particularly driven to post a challenge today. >_> I'll probably post it in a couple hours

(i.e. tomorrow)

TùxCräftîñg

vim question: how to do a thing to indicate if a line is >80 chars?

Rainbolt

@HelkaHomba I sympathize with these people somewhat. I'm not a hardcore Linux or command line guy, but when Windows took away my start menu, I started hitting Windows key and typing in the program I want to use. Subsequently every single icon on my desktop except for the Recycle Bin got removed, because I never use them. If I could have my start menu back, I would never use it anyway. So while I'm not hardcore, I understand why people feel like commands are superior to point and click GUIs.

DJMcMayhem

21:57

@TùxCräftîñg :h 'cc'

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

Question: How does one start a vim process without the intro text showing up?

trichoplax

It seems most people deal with the unwanted intro text by diverting it to TNB

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

(from the process arguments, that is)

Most useless command:

$ vim +q

~                              VIM - Vi IMproved
~
~                               version 7.4.1689
~                           by Bram Moolenaar et al.
~           Modified by [email protected]
~                 Vim is open source and freely distributable
~
~                        Help poor children in Uganda!
~                type  :help iccf<Enter>       for information
~
~                type  :q<Enter>               to exit
~                type  :help<Enter>  or  <F1>  for on-line help

@trichoplax Nope, still shows up

trichoplax

Was sarcasm... I have no idea why people keep posting the VIM intro screen into TNB :P

New Main Posts

22:15

0

Q: Validate a stem-and-leaf plot

A stem and leaf plot displays a bunch of numerical values in groups, which are determined by all but the last digit. For example, suppose we have this set of data: 0, 2, 12, 13, 13, 15, 16, 20, 29, 43, 49, 101 We could produce this stem and leaf plot: 0|02 1|23356 2|09 3| 4|39 5| 6| 7| 8| 9| ...

code-golf data-structures

DJMcMayhem

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ this is just a guess but what about au VimEnter * normal i<esc>

TheBitByte

CMC: Print the string "CMC", without using the letters "C,M,C" or any numbers from 0-9 in your code.

zyabin101

@TheBitByte rot1: DND

Not a sub, but it should help someone.

TheBitByte

@zyabin101 Fine. You win.

DJMcMayhem

@zyabin101 rot1 is not a language

TheBitByte

22:22

CMC: Given any arbitrary UTF8 input, produce an output consisting of code that prints it. However, the output code must not contain any of the letters in the input string, nor should it contain any numbers from 0-9.

zyabin101

1 min ago, by zyabin101

Not a sub, but it should help someone.

@TheBitByte ^

DJMcMayhem

@TheBitByte V seven bytes

TheBitByte

@zyabin101 See, you win in my book for having a creative answer.

@DJMcMayhem Awesome!

TùxCräftîñg

my internet connection will be really slow for 1 week :/

TheBitByte

@TùxCräftîñg Download more RAM. Sometimes it helps.

TùxCräftîñg

22:27

nope, this will not help

TheBitByte

Google Ultron uses NASA technology, and it's really fast.

If all else fails, you still have the trusty Adobe Reader.

zyabin101

@TùxCräftîñg Ask the ISP.

TheBitByte

@zyabin101 Image signal processor?

zyabin101

@TheBitByte Internet services provider.

TheBitByte

@zyabin101 Instruction set processor?

zyabin101

22:31

∞.

TheBitByte

Interactive session protocol?

TùxCräftîñg

night

TheBitByte

Good day, sir!

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@DJMcMayhem As I said, from the process arguments

betseg

@TheBitByte i;main(){i='G'-'F';putchar('D'-i);putchar('N'-i);putchar('D'-i);}

TheBitByte

22:35

@betseg A bit on the long side, but awesome!

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@betseg main(i){i='G'-'F';putchar('D'-i);putchar('N'-i);putchar('D'-i);}

betseg

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ ye tru

TheBitByte

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ You know the drill: J, Jelly, or 051ABE win. And almost only those.

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@TheBitByte Print["Why not Mathematica?"];

TheBitByte

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ Wait, this actually prints "CMC"?

betseg

22:36

^

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@TheBitByte Print["No."];

#define P putchar(␊main(i){i='G'-'F';P'D'-i);P'N'-i);P'D'-i);}

ASCII-only

atob('Q01D')

TheBitByte

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ You're gonna have to count #!/usr/local/bin/Mathematica -script or whatever it is, haha.

ASCII-only

@TheBitByte Uh why

betseg

how much time did u spent for ␊

> or any numbers from 0-9 in your code

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

22:39

@TheBitByte why are all of your challenges silly restricted source challenges with arbitrary requirements?

ASCII-only

atob(atob('UTAxRA=='))

betseg

CMC: updoot my posts

Downgoat

@betseg wat is updoot

ASCII-only

@Downgoat The opposite of a downdoot

TheBitByte

@Downgoat Okay, get ready for a history lesson.....

betseg

22:40

@Downgoat you, upside down.

Steven H.

@Downgoat It's a meme word for upvote

TheBitByte

thank mr skeletal

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@TheBitByte please provide me with a response

ASCII-only

@TheBitByte You know that can be worked around by moving Mathematica to root dir right?

TheBitByte

@RohanJhunjhunwala print('a response')

@ASCII-only I was joking......

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

22:41

ok, back to the ignoring pile you go

betseg

@TheBitByte ;_;

:before{content:"goat

2

best css snippet ever

also, golfed

Steven H.

Does CSS autocomplete?

betseg

yup

DJMcMayhem

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ Haha, whoops

betseg

:before{content:"goat == *:before{content:"goat";}

DJMcMayhem

22:43

Maybe use -c?

trichoplax

@RohanJhunjhunwala Even with the word please, that comment comes across as quite aggressive, at least to me

TheBitByte

@betseg :before{content:"nopenopenope == *:before{content:"nopenopenope";}

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@trichoplax Oh, I am sorry

trichoplax

Just thought I'd let you know as I suspected that wasn't your intention

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

It was not

I do apologize.

trichoplax

22:45

Mainly because it was only 1 minute after the initial question

Downgoat

@RohanJhunjhunwala when making request always append :3 for saftey

2

betseg

2

in case you cant test it, the resut of the css snippet

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@trichoplax I understand, I should have presented the request better

trichoplax

No harm done - just wanted to let you know so it doesn't cause any problems later :)

DJMcMayhem

@betseg the nineteenth goat?

betseg

22:47

@DJMcMayhem goatgoatThe Nineteenth Byte

TheBitByte

@betseg goatgoatyeah

goatgoatI see.

betseg

wait i can improve that

:before,:after{content:"goat

"goatgoatThe Nineteenth Bytegoat goat" now

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

Please make a pull request to the userscript with that unique feature

TheBitByte

@betseg What's that in the top right?

betseg

@TheBitByte red-green-blue-purple thing?

TheBitByte

22:51

@betseg Yes.

betseg

@RohanJhunjhunwala i dont know js unfortunately :(

@TheBitByte conky

ASCII-only

@RohanJhunjhunwala pls no

TheBitByte

Wow I am so used to the "wide GitHub" script that visiting GitHub without it looks so weird...

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

Please yes. I want all css elements to be surrounded by the string literal "goat"

TheBitByte

Last I checked goat wasn't a meme, but I guess not on SE...

Then again, SE isn't the meme place, that's 4chan. Or reddit. Or reddit stealing from 4chan.

ASCII-only

22:55

@RohanJhunjhunwala Okay, I'll do it when I'm home, but in a separate userscript

betseg

github.com/vihanb/PPCG-Design/issues/90

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@ASCII-only I was kidding...

I should have used <sarcasm> tags

TheBitByte

@betseg Got any screenshots?

@RohanJhunjhunwala Nowadays this is just shortened to "/s", at least that's the case on reddit.

betseg

6 mins ago, by betseg

TheBitByte

@betseg I meant main, not chat.

I want to compare the current theme vs that userscript.

betseg

22:59

img

TheBitByte

@betseg Without the goat thing, please. :D

Also I really hate that ppcg logo.

betseg

img

TheBitByte

@betseg I like this theme. I just want the old logo back that's all.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@betseg no.

betseg

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ wat

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

23:03

That's a really dumb idea.

@betseg goat css

betseg

wikipedia Negative temperature

> A system with a truly negative temperature on the Kelvin scale is hotter than any system with a positive temperature. If a negative-temperature system and a positive-temperature system come in contact, heat will flow from the negative- to the positive-temperature system.

integer overflow

quartata

@zyabin101 OK seriously, why is it that the second I made a chatbot every one else on the planet decided to make one

And why are they all so similar

(except only one actually would work for a knowledge base bigger than a few messages :P)

@ETHproductions I'm also done with this new bot based on yours, it's fairly different but should be pretty interesting

Conor O'Brien

@Dennis huh.

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

23:24

(mind == blown) == true

Conor O'Brien

oh?

DJMcMayhem

@RohanJhunjhunwala mind*blown

GTFY

ETHproductions

@quartata Nice, can't wait to see it :)

quartata

I should have it up in ten minutes, I just need to fix a dumb mistake

ETHproductions

(btw, that's twice today I've randomly gotten on PPCG and seen that you pinged me two minutes ago :P)

quartata

23:27

hahahaa

quartata

23:39

@ETHproductions Training ETHBot/Laffy in the Moonbase

The Moonbase

Racoon heaven/glorified clubhouse. Home of the Laff-O-Tron, a ...

The Moonbase

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