@RohanJhunjhunwala response to first setence: :3 thanks. respond to second sentence: ;_; y u no think cheddar isn't serious language

maybe if i make stack overflow tag it'll be serious language

question: anyone have any questions about cheddar?: stackoverflow.com/questions/ask?tags=cheddar

@Downgoat I mean in popularity, comparable to C or C++ or Java, no offense intended

Not in quality

It is 10/10 high quality language

Is Why on Earth did you choose Node? a valid question?

@RohanJhunjhunwala :D :D :D :D :D

The internet is a magical place

@Downgoat :D if I get some time I will make the cheese package

@βετѧΛєҫαγ :O there is another goat on the internet! \o/

@Downgoat I have not forgotten, cheddar will have leeet memes

:D

:D

@Dennis idk >_> will port to sane language (C++?) when i have time (this is joke i will never have time to rewrite this in another language)

@βετѧΛєҫαγ that is Chatgoat

2.bp.blogspot.com/-55g8AKx-22w/TggOGU6WLqI/AAAAAAAABzc/… sadly I think that's a dog though :(

you must of not met him :/

Damn it

The internet isn't as magical as I thought

@Downgoat lol u seem to actually have answered questions on that account

lol that's how I feel somedays

@Downgoat u should add an on error resume next command to cheddar :D just like vb

@βετѧΛєҫαγ :(

@βετѧΛєҫαγ and tautological statements are tautological :(

@RohanJhunjhunwala good idea brb

@Downgoat seriosuly? YES!

@mınxomaτ it looks like the Flattr trend is much flatter!

we should stop posting goat pics before mods eleven to trash. (btw this is best source of goats)

oh yyeah

makes sense

changes room name to Nineteenth Goat

No goats here

@Downgoat are you actually considering an on error resume next command? Please say yes!

@Downgoat and do not worry, I will ask a stack overflow question tagged with cheddar, I'll ping you so you can answer it

(when I get around to the memes package)

@Downgoat Who ya gonna call when mods eleven everything?

@βετѧΛєҫαγ room topic changed to The Nineteenth Goat: General discussion for en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goat | Guidelines: media.lifehealthpro.com/lifehealthpro/article/2015/12/28/… (no tags)

@RohanJhunjhunwala yes. I have it on TODO list. I will think of the details soon and write up a proposal soon, and get working on it.

@RohanJhunjhunwala :D :D :D

@Downgoat :D I'll put a feature request on to the repo

@RohanJhunjhunwala ok, cool

Should I (vote to) close as duplicate?

I'm voting to close as unclear.

I think its fairly clear that he wants a quine that will run itself again and again, but it is a dup as well. It did take me a few passes to figure out what he wanted

So I guess there is multiple close reasons

@mod unfreeze pls?:

Will chat goat bite?

I heard goats bite

@Downgoat lol do you chust use the cleverbot api?

thats what I would use

im lazy

@βετѧΛєҫαγ no, no, of course they won't

I think you're lying

@βετѧΛєҫαγ this might happen if you don't like goats though: vine.co/v/igUZnYWWjhq

@βετѧΛєҫαγ this is faked. you can clearly tell this is fake because the goat has no teeth

It gives me an idea for a king of the goat pen koth

@Downgoat Holy crap

@RohanJhunjhunwala I made chatgoat use some different algorithms so it could generate longer sentences

oh nice

That butt must've hurt

markov chain analysis?

Is that kid alive?

@Downgoat ^^

Butts are dangerous

@RohanJhunjhunwala no. just a bunch of frequency analysis. It analysis important words and the important words that were responded back to the message's important words and scans it's lexicon for items with important words that will be relevant

@βετѧΛєҫαγ no, he was turned into curry

@Downgoat That's okay

@Downgoat Anti-Esla'd.

Anything curried is good

but but gaot?

^

@Downgoat I had one idea for an A* bot, it worked mediocrely with the ability to output canned responces. It had a list of a hardcoded conversation. It would pick the response with the biggest score. The score was the number of matching words in the corresponding question (to the users question) to the response

Too late XD

Okay. I started the chatgoat in his barn

Wow, chatgoat makes better conversation than most people in this room XD

not again....

Sounds like a good kinda deal if anyone into that kinda thing

Hal lol

I think you should be posting that on Code Review chat

@Quill hey that's pretty good

@Quill brb submitting application and mentioning chatgoat as my kolafication

@Downgoat ^ A more suitable job

I should put chatgoat on my account and see if he can complete the turing test...

lol he will not pass the turing test :(

Alan Turing is a sad goat

@RohanJhunjhunwala are you going to run for mod?

lol with 800 rep

@RohanJhunjhunwala Is PPCG better than code review

@Downgoat I will build a wall around ppcg and everyone on this sight will say that its a great great wall!

@Downgoat most cerainly yes! I was just trying to troll chat goat. PPCG is the top sight on stack exchange

In terms of quality

@RohanJhunjhunwala okay question: did you think those last two messages were submitted by me or chatgoat?

Probably chat goat

:(

ok, maybe next time he'll pass

@Downgoat I would not have suspected it had you not asked

o_____O

CHATGOAT PASSED TURING TESTS????? :D :D :D :D :D :

You need to do it like this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test

Lol Downgoat it only past because I assumed you were teasing me about my original answers :D

:/

okay well back to working on cheddar

I can't find a good sequence for the cops and robbers :-/ Every time i think i have a clever idea, oeis spoils the method, or my posted code has to spoil it, or even the length is a spoiler

You should be proud of chatgoat and cheddar they oth clearly are thoguht out. Cheddar however is clean and polished @Downgoad chatbots are ahard though, but they are fun to experiment with

@Downgoat whoops misspelled your user

I think chatgoat is having an identity crisis

Hai

CHATGOAT ADMITTED TO BEING A SPY :O

@DestructibleWatermelon idk what you're talking about

@DestructibleWatermelon .___.

@RohanJhunjhunwala :3 thank you, though I should probably learn some AI theory before I go around making more chatbots >_>

Not necessarily AI theory, read up on NLP and Neural networks

@Downgoat Congratulations!

theonion.com/article/…

@LeakyNun on?

@Downgoat cheddar.tryitonline.net

@LeakyNun oh, well I didn't really do much for that >_> thank @Dennis for the Cheddar TIO

@Downgoat I saw your long-winded convo above on how to install cheddar

:|

strawpoll.me/10933625

\o/

@Downgoat There's a shorter way to convert int to string

@LeakyNun yay!

@xnor nice, I enjoyed it

@LeakyNun I think he means explicit conversion

@LeakyNun wait wat rly

@Downgoat guess

@Downgoat halp how reverse array

oh "%f"%n?

@LeakyNun array.rev

@Downgoat bingo

added in latest cheddar version

@Downgoat wow it's already beta35

last time it was only beta30

beta36 should be coming up soon too

@Downgoat How do I see all functions of a namespace?

without going to the source?

@LeakyNun can't as of now. I do already have that on my TODO list though.

alright

I can do it now though

can you give me proposed syntax for how it would be done?

cheddar.inspect(<namespace>) maybe?

halp how go from your site to the github site

sure

@LeakyNun go to bottom of page

@Downgoat worked

@Downgoat

@El'endiaStarman did you see this?

zenorogue.blogspot.com/2016/08/…

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Oooh, cool.

Woah wait what. Some user that chatted on July 27 was removed, and broke my transcript parsing code.

o_O

Shoot, I have to figure out how to handle messages without user ids.

Hmm, no, I think I've got this. The user id is in the username.

@quartata

> <Chatgoat> Sure, goats suck

Heard it a long time ago

@El'endiaStarman Matthew right?

feedback on this challenge please?

@Downgoat If that's the guy whose disappearance prompted some surprise from some users a couple days ago, then yeah, probably.

@Downgoat Yep, Matthew Roh! I was able to confirm it by using the data in my local database that was from before his account went bye-bye.

Matthew Roh is gone?

O.O

@LeakyNun how many possible outputs should I include in the ascii die challenge?

@DestructibleWatermelon all

but that would mean 48 die pictures

@El'endiaStarman why did he go?

7(6 high+1 space)*48= 336 lines of examples

@DestructibleWatermelon No, just compress each output to one line

oh, you mean just the numbers? ok, can do

@LeakyNun No idea. Might've been too young (under 13 years old).

@El'endiaStarman my god

@LeakyNun because he drank too much water >.<

@ConorO'Brien i am trying to write up some cheddar code which displays some of cheddar's cool abilities. Any ideas on what?

@Downgoat make a cop thread

Use my cheddar serverside thing to make a cheddar website displaying some cool cheddar stuff

@Quill does cheddar serverside work with new cheddar?

I need you to set up one of those latest-cheddar-syncs-to-another-repo things like you did for the REPL

.____. why are you using Chedz

use npm install --save cheddar-lang

then you can do require('cheddar-lang')

and use it like:

Feel free to make a PR ;-)

var cheddar = require('cheddar-lang');
cheddar("print 1", {
    PRINT: (text) => process.stdout.write(text)
});

For God's sake

I now have multiple approaches to the sequence

and I am required to post the second best

but the second best hints to the best

so I am forced to post the third best instead

but if I do so people will be able to post the second best

@Quill in the cheddarRoute function. how do I error?

I guess I'll just post the third best

can someone link to a tac program (reverse cat?)

@DestructibleWatermelon in which language?

any

I actually want to use it for legitimate reasons

oh wait

computerhope.com/unix/tac.htm

I just thought up a better way to do it instead

thanks anyway though

@Downgoat No idea, it's basically the same code as the REPL

I'm assuming you can just overload console.error

halp, how the brainfuck is GCD(3+4i,4+5i) equal to 5+i

/Users/vihan/Documents/Code/serverside/server.js:21
        res.write(output);
            ^

TypeError: res.write is not a function

@Quill halp is borked

what did you do? did you modify the code? did you do npm install?

wait gonna use tac program anyway

@Downgoat compatibility problem I guess

@Quill yeah. here's my current code:

var cheddar = require('cheddar-lang');
var fs = require("fs");
var express = require('express');
var port = 4001;
var app = express()

var Cheddar = Function('return this')().Chedz;

var cheddarRoute = function(path, res){
    fs.readFile('www/' + path, function(error, data){
        if (error){
            throw error;
        }

        var output = "";

        var res = cheddar(data.toString(), {
            PRINT: (data) => output += data.toString()
        });

        res.write(output);
        res.end()

Here's a tricky python script to make debuggers go crazy:

real_false = False
real_true = True
True = real_false
False = real_true
__main__.True = real_false
__main__.False = real_true

(python 2 only)

works for me @Downgoat, try removing the var Cheddar line

yeah just relized that

that moment when you actually use BF productively

\o/

@DestructibleWatermelon you implemented tac in BF?

yes

@Downgoat You should totally make a cop thread with Cheddar

I won't crack it

reason I needed tac: I wanted to reverse the valid outputs I wrote

@DestructibleWatermelon how on earth did you do that

anybody see my evil python script?

well, actually it wasn't tac I guess

or maybe it was, I don't know

if only I could monkey-patch True/False globally - too bad that feature isn't available until python 3

either way, this was code ,[>,]<[.<]

>>> True,False=False,True
>>> True,False
(False, True)
>>> True,False=False,True
>>> True,False
(True, False)

@LeakyNun ...

@DestructibleWatermelon tac splits on newline

YAY SOMEBODY NOTICED ME :P

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC 10/10 completely original guaranteed

@LeakyNun hm ok

@Downgoat jk, of course I'll crack it

._.

@LeakyNun made it up myself, probably somebody else already done it before - but now I'll monkey-patch all the built-in functions

Two J cop threads in a row

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC that's another reason to use python 3

@LeakyNun too bad you can't assign to literals in python 3

@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC security

@LeakyNun python doesn't have buf overflows, already pretty secure

@Downgoat I'll be gone for quite an amount of time

so post it ASAP so that I can't crack it

bye

@LeakyNun ok ¬_¬ bai

What's this graph thing?

Activity

@downgoat functional!

Btw did you fix &

but is it over 24 hours?

@Quill

Yeah, it's the average activity over each hour for a 24 hour period

laid out by time since UTC 00:00

let's take a survey of time zones and calculate when people go and surf for golfing!

Hey guys, check this out: ppcg.starmaninnovations.com/SsOJpOHGMv

@El'endiaStarman oh wow that's cool!

Only July 27 has been parsed thus far.

@El'endiaStarman another awesome thing from you

vihan:~/Documents/Code/serverside/www (master) $ ls
index.chr  index.html test.chr
vihan:~/Documents/Code/serverside/www (master) $ rm index.cdr
rm: index.cdr: No such file or directory

wat

chr vs cdr

oh

we should have a meetup where we discuss non-code related stuff

We have a discord chat that we were having chats on, but nobody came :(

@Quill discord chat? you need to advertise it in the community chat section

gimme link

make events

I don't have a link (or invite privs) in any case; nobody came to the events when we had them. I think someone was looking at reviving it, but it wasn't me and I'll leave it up to them

@Quill make a new one. I have stuff to talk about

We were talking for a while a few days back

discord.gg/emetX

gimme link!

but is it the same topics as here? I want some off-topic chat

or I could put it here

@Doorknob

Does anyone else find it irritating when 5 people answer a challenge with a totally unclear specification

Here's something completely unrelated but fits our culture:

3 hours since last question and 11 since one that isn't closed, so can I get some feedback on my ascii die challenge?

Learn to Fly 2 is a game about a penguin nuking the Antarctic ice, filled with jokes and eastereggs to the brim. It has 50 million plays and 4.5 stars on Kongregate, making it one of the most popular game. The developer is an indie dev (w/ multiple sclerosis and not rich - but still funny).

</off-topic>

feedback pl0x so I can post

''.join('feedback' for i in range(100))

...

ಠ_ಠ

@Dennis feature-request for TIO: test suites

@DestructibleWatermelon "they are allowed to be trick dice" So one one output could have probability 1 and the rest 0?

I'm fairly sure it said that each must have some probability of happening

but that they didn't have to be even

I guess I didn't phrase it properly

let me rephrase now

@DestructibleWatermelon I'd get rid of that - just require equal probabilities. It is not clear that "some" means > 0

interesting golfs and stuff

But also opens the door to abuse.

give one example of abuse

I'd probably get rid of the right/left handed stuff too, it's unnecessarily confusing. A dice net and a list of xyz combos and the ascii art suffices.

@Downgoat Not that easy. Different languages take input in different ways...

@HelkaHomba but I want to be culture compatible

Then at least explain what left/right handed means

oh, right. I don't know why I didn't just do that

And definitely give a dice map example, like

  4
6215
  3

kk

To generalize, maybe allow any die as long as opposite faces add to 7

that's just left and right handed, no? or is that what you mean to say?

left and right handed mean the die net is different

I'm not sure. But that's easier (for me at least) to understand that handedness.

added edit, how is it now?

So I've been logging 404 requests to the web server that hosts one of my projects.... I've been getting some strange traffic.....

gist.github.com/The-Quill/49b5426b5e3a270039370f4122bc5367

Parsing of the whole TNB transcript is in progress. The first three and a half years were parsed in several minutes. :P

The last two years will take several hours at least.

how does the parsing work?

@Downgoat jk i'm back (for 15 mintues)

Um, this is scary. I just set up a Twitter account for TIO (first time I do this), and it suggested following @StackCodeGolf.

@Quill Shame on you for not properly configuring your server's Peach Sundress.

that's normal traffic

the font is great

"attempt at path" is not an error?

@DestructibleWatermelon Better. I still vote for equal probabilities but it's ready enough to post otherwise

@DestructibleWatermelon The Python standard library html.parser.

@Downgoat halp (**)(2) quits without RuntimeError

well, I think that if someone can figure out a way to compress the code by making the die uneven (but still possible for all results) that just makes a cool golf

well, if people suddenly complain as soon as I post the challenge I'll change it

(because they don't care before you post)

> We determine the people you might enjoy following based on your visits to websites in the Twitter ecosystem

@DestructibleWatermelon fair enough

@HelkaHomba Ah right, I visited that account once when it popped up in the community ads.

Good thing I didn't disclose what else was suggested. >_>

> Your account has been locked.

OK, that was fast.

Apparently, providing a phone number is optional, but not at all optional. Great...

Ah, I already regret this.

wat

Hey guys

@Sherlock9 YO

Am I allowed to use pictures from Wolfram MathWorld to help explain my answers? Or should I create new ones?

Greetings

Hello

@IsmaelMiguel Hey! Haven't seen you around in a while :)

Yeah, I've been away of everywhere in general

How's everything here?

Going pretty well!

That's good to know

Wanna check something for me, and give your constructive opinion?

Sure, what is it?

I've made some changes to the leaderboard

And I just want to know if you see anything missing or something

jsfiddle.net/akc5f15a

That has test data, with small changes

Oh wow, very nice!

Thank you

One of the things I really hate on the other leader board is the speed

I think that that one loads half as fast

But

There must be something behind that isn't being taken into account

@Dennis In case you're wondering, my solution is 2&o.t: (E.g.f. instead of g.f.)

Ah right, that makes ] superfluous.

@Dennis but nice

As in, will Wolfram make rude noises if I use one of their images in my answer?

Wow, guys, TNB froze on Nov 10, 2011 and wasn't really unfrozen until Nov 14, 2012.

For the interested: twitter.com/Try_it_online

(I have no idea what I'm doing.)

How I found out? This query.

@El'endiaStarman Ah, I remember those days. Good times.

Priceless.

Actual talking in Discord. Wow.

So there is a suggested edit on the tag wiki for color (link). I took a look and saw that there are only 3 challenges with that tag. After some analysis it seems to me like we don't need this tag at all. Thoughts?

Podcast AMA, in voice or text here, now.

What do you all think? codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/89059/47581