The Nineteenth Byte

quartata

21:03

Took me a while to realize that Euler is pronounced Oiler

El'endia Starman

@quartata I was corrected by my math teacher in 9th grade, I think.

Doorknob

One of my friends intentionally pronounces Euler as "yooler" and Euclid as "oislid" just to mess with people.

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quartata

@Doorknob hahaha

@El'endiaStarman OK, phew. I'm glad it's a common thing

flawr

How do you pronounce Euler?

Maltysen

oiler

flawr

21:06

and euclid?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman hahaha mt

quartata

youclid

Maltysen

you-slid

flawr

so why not oiclid?

quartata

Because English

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

21:07

euler was french (or something) and euclid was greek right?

flawr

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ more or something than french

quartata

(weak joke about inconsistent pronunciation)

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Euler was Swiss, apparently. So his name is [Swiss] German.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

they're loaner words, the point is

flawr

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ there is no point, not even a comma!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

21:09

sure there is. there's two (or three) in this message.

flawr

I hope you are familiar with pointless topology.

Derived from that concept, there is the notion of pointless (sometimes pointfree) notation in haskell.

Which actually uses points (.) .

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ahaha

flawr

@QPaysTaxes No, pointfree notation is writing function without explicitly mentioning their arguments.

e.g. substractTwo x = x-2

Could be rewritten as substractTwo = (-2)

And if you copose multiple functions you can use the composition operator, the "."

What is concaten?

Link?

I need to go, but I'd love to look into it tomorrow!

So it is functional?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

21:27

@QPaysTaxes what does collect do in ruby?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

RenderSettings

@QPaysTaxes o/

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@QPaysTaxes could you make an example? :3

what about when given a non function

Maltysen

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Illuminati confirmed

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

Maltysen

21:29

> used cats

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Maltysen have you seen spurious correlations?

> get a service estimate

BTW, that was me googling "car" with xkcd subs on.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@QPaysTaxes Like, thing.collect { "string" }

so, it's like a fill?

oh

ah

one last (?) question: what does collect_concat do?

Cyoce

@QPaysTaxes Why not just ["string"] * length?

@QPaysTaxes Yeah I know. I was referring to the first one.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@QPaysTaxes I'm looking at that rn, and the example doesn't using collect_concat. Which is why I'm askign you.

@QPaysTaxes I only asked because the examples of said functions don't use the actual function

It's a bunch of jargon.

Cyoce

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ They generally do that if the function you're reading about is an alias of another one.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

21:35

@Cyoce so... why not just say it's an alias?

Cyoce

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ They normally do.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@QPaysTaxes Block is a general term. Enum is a general term. WTF do they mean in this context?

@QPaysTaxes thanks for linking me to it ;)

El'endia Starman

@QPaysTaxes Jargon isn't just words, but also meanings.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@QPaysTaxes I'm not learning ruby, I'm trying to implement functions from the library. I don't know ruby yet.

Cyoce

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Learn Ruby. Now.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

21:37

@Cyoce no

@QPaysTaxes My favorite language is not JavaScript.

Cyoce

@QPaysTaxes I loved Ruby coming from JavaScript.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

collect_concat { |obj| block } → array
collect_concat → an_enumerator

is → an operator?

Cyoce

@QPaysTaxes No! Python makes no sense! It is full of contradictions!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

Cyoce

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ no that indicates the return value

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

21:38

@Cyoce ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Cyoce

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ The Ruby docs are horrible.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@QPaysTaxes Oh, the definition is the joke.

Oh well. Nothing is worse than J source.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

How to multiply 2 lists in julia?

i.e. [1,2] * [3,4] = [1*3,2*4]?

@QPaysTaxes Write it in Julia.

D: why?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@QPaysTaxes So is J's. It really isn't worse than Ruby's.

flawr

@QPaysTaxes Romeo?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

21:41

no.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@QPaysTaxes He should use Z: [1, 2] .* [3, 4]

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

Z?

Please don't tell me you made it.

Cyoce

@QPaysTaxes ^

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Alex A.

@flawr Who? Old Man Gloom?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Not really. I made a wrapper but haven't published it

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

21:43

@AlexA. multiply 2 lists in julia?

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ >_>

Cyoce

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

2 mins ago, by Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

i.e. [1,2] * [3,4] = [1*3,2*4]?

Alex A.

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ .*

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

oh dang

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

HAHA CALLED IT

Alex A.

21:44

Elementwise multiplication for arrays

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ O_O

wtf dude

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

eh?

El'endia Starman

@Cyoce That was Q's opinion of Python at first. :P

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

.... you made Z be like julia?

EPIC

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I didn't make it. is the link blocked?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

21:45

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ no.

I am just confuzzled.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ah

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

....choo

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ge

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

...

flawr

@AlexA. The link from earlier, Pelican

Cyoce

21:46

@QPaysTaxes Thanks, SE!

Alex A.

@flawr I missed the link. Overall I'm not a huge Pelican fan but I like the album City of Echos.

El'endia Starman

I wonder if I should write an extension that filters out messages with low information content. Would probably make chat a little more enjoyable to read. :P

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

oh well.

@AlexA. @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ thanks!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ don't thank me >_>

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ okay

I welcome you.

flawr

21:47

@flawr @AlexA.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ much better XD

Cyoce

How do I make recursion shorter in Pretzel? What built-ins should I implement to shorten recursion?

Alex A.

@NathanMerrill TIL you're married :O

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

And seriously, Adnan and ಠ_ಠ are the same dude?

El'endia Starman

@QPaysTaxes I could probably do pretty well just by tossing out messages with no more than five space-separated words. :P

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

21:48

@AlexA. lol

El'endia Starman

@AlexA. That was new to me too.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

He's mentioned it before.

flawr

@AlexA. And this of course.

Alex A.

@flawr BUNNY CUBE

Cyoce

@QPaysTaxes so like a=2; b=3;c=4;rec() # => foo(2,3,4) ?

El'endia Starman

21:49

The interesting conversations tend not to have a bunch of messages with few words.

Alex A.

@El'endiaStarman Flag that post <-- Instructive, relevant to the site, <5 words

Cyoce

@QPaysTaxes Hmm... that might occasionally save a few bytes...

Alex A.

@flawr Oh yeah, I'm not a fan of that album.

El'endia Starman

@QPaysTaxes I wouldn't necessarily call that a conversation. "Discussion" might be a better word.

Alex A.

Kinda boring.

El'endia Starman

21:51

@QPaysTaxes I usually consider discussions to be fairly lengthy conversations about a topic that's not small talk.

Cyoce

@QPaysTaxes ?<à1áràr fibonacci where "r" is that recursion function

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

El'endia style reduction of content: (makes content red)

Array.from(document.querySelectorAll("[id^='message-']")).filter(e=>e.querySelector(".content").innerHTML.split(" ").length < 5).map(e => e.style.color = "red")

Cyoce

@QPaysTaxes Yes. That's how it would be if I implemented r to do that.

El'endia Starman

Ooooh. It'd be cool to have a sort of "heat map" with the average number of words per message through out the day/week and see if that correlates with interestingness.

Cyoce

> avocad

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

21:54

Or to remove them completely:

Array.from(document.querySelectorAll("[id^='message-']")).filter(e=>e.querySelector(".content").innerHTML.split(" ").length < 5).map(e => e.parentNode.parentNode.style.display = "none")

Cyoce

@QPaysTaxes Where do you think I got the name?

(it's actually pretty simple)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

from prefix

El'endia Starman

@QPaysTaxes By looking at the transcript.

trichoplax

@QPaysTaxes You'd need an objective measure, like stars

Cyoce

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ that too

El'endia Starman

21:55

@QPaysTaxes I never expected it to be good. Just decent. :P

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@El'endiaStarman avocad must be the most common word

El'endia Starman

@QPaysTaxes Yeah, or hiding with the option to restore.

This is mostly theoretical though since I have no idea how to make a Chrome extension.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@QPaysTaxes yeah

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ VM11744:1 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'innerHTML' of null(…)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

You can also assign it to a function then use an interval function

@El'endiaStarman which browser are you using?

El'endia Starman

21:57

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Chrome.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@QPaysTaxes I could, but that's too much work

Quill

@El'endiaStarman it's pretty easy, you basically just make a json file with the info like extension name and locations that you want the extension to work, and then you add a .js file

El'endia Starman

@Quill Huh, okay then. I might try my hand at it sometime.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman Try refreshing the page.

btw @Quill I'm making a node module!

Quill

I did a simple chrome extension for Jira the other day that might shed some light

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ :DDDD what does it do

El'endia Starman

21:58

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ How would that help? o.O (Same error, anyway.)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

El'endia Starman

How hard would it be to filter out the null elements?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ oh cool

does it juic avocad?

Quill

.filter((element) => element != null)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

.filter(x => x)

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