The Nineteenth Byte

Maltysen

12:01 AM

@QPaysTaxes reversed(l)

its a global

list(reversed(l)).index

but just use l[::-1]

quartata

^

Maltysen

@QPaysTaxes huh?

RenderSettings

...Yeah. I just went all "huh, I thought that word meant "can see the future" I must have been mistaken."

El'endia Starman

prescient

Adjective: prescient ‎(comparative more prescient, superlative most prescient)

Having knowledge of events before they take place; possessing or exhibiting prescience.

trichoplax

python has everything

El'endia Starman

12:05 AM

@QPaysTaxes And that's a problem?

RenderSettings

[closed] Not a bug, a feature

El'endia Starman

....huh? l[::-1] is a reversed copy of l.

Alex A.

@cat I rolled back your edit. That challenge is 2 years old with highly voted answers and changing the winning criterion to code golf would invalidate literally all of them.

El'endia Starman

@QPaysTaxes What are you trying to do?

RenderSettings

Clearly, you have to discombobulate the flux capacitor

El'endia Starman

12:07 AM

@QPaysTaxes That's a bit too general to help.

Nathan Merrill

Back!

Alex A.

TIL the guy who created the WTFPL has an account here. codegolf.stackexchange.com/users/811/sam-hocevar

2

Nathan Merrill

Hi

trichoplax

@AlexA. And an active member who has been here since near the start...

RenderSettings

@AlexA. wtf the creator of the WTFPL is also the engine programmer for Life is Strange

Alex A.

12:20 AM

sam.zoy.org/fun/trolling

haha

El'endia Starman

@QPaysTaxes Unfortunately, Python doesn't have a built-in for that. Not hard to write your own function for it if you really need to.

Oooh, I just thought of a hacky way to do it. Lemme see if it works.

trichoplax

ninjad

feersum

PPCJers: Did you get any confirmation if you advanced to round 2 of GCJ yet?

trichoplax

@QPaysTaxes I noticed too late :)

cat

@AlexA. I can't believe I overlooked that, wow, I'm an idiot. The intention was new answers be code-golf, but then we could just have a better, more specified, new challenge. Either way, that edit was dumb.

El'endia Starman

12:24 AM

>>> L = [0,1,2,3,4,5,6]
>>> n = 3; x = [L.pop() for i in range(n)][::-1]
>>> L
[0, 1, 2, 3]
>>> x
[4, 5, 6]

trichoplax

Even cats can't be perfect all the time

Alex A.

@cat It wouldn't make sense to have some answers that are trying to be competitive for code golf and some that are trying to be competitive in a popcon

El'endia Starman

Hedgehogs, however, are definitely always perfect.

trichoplax

Definitely

Alex A.

haha

El'endia Starman

12:25 AM

@QPaysTaxes Modern Sonic games? What are you talking about?

Alex A.

ROASTE
D

El'endia Starman

Yeah yeah, I know. But modern?

cat

@trichoplax 'scuse me

trichoplax

Meaning no offense to Sonic, but I don't really count him as a hedgehog

Dennis

El'endia Starman

12:26 AM

What newer ones?

cat

@El'endiaStarman all da... da new ones

El'endia Starman

lol

trichoplax

@cat It was intended positively... :)

El'endia Starman

The Sonic 4 games were fun though. I've only played Sonic 1-4 and Sonic Adventure 1.

quartata

@cat nope not ringing any bells

Alex A.

12:28 AM

I thought you meant Sonic the fast food place

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Q: Polar or Nonpolar?

Introduction Given any molecular compound in which the component elements are conveyed with their atomic symbols and the quantity of each element is conveyed with integers following the elements (e.g. H2O would be water), output a truthy/falsy value conveying whether the compound is Polar or not...

El'endia Starman

@AlexA. Let me bring to mind Kafka's Metamorphosis...

cat

135

A: Humans can now run 40 mph. How do I keep the stupid people alive?

People would likely use a portable, protective encasement when traveling at or near their maximum speed. Here is a possible prototype:

quartata

@El'endiaStarman I've pretty much played everything up to SA2 plus Colors and Generations

Alex A.

@El'endiaStarman I don't know what you mean but I liked that book

El'endia Starman

12:29 AM

@quartata I want to play Generations at some point.

R. Kap

I've played Sonic the Hedgehog 4...and that's it...

quartata

Sonic CD is the best

El'endia Starman

@AlexA. I was trying to joke that Sonic the Hedgehog got turned into Sonic the restaurant. :P

Alex A.

oh hahaha

quartata

generations is super good too

El'endia Starman

12:30 AM

@quartata Is that the pseudo-3D isomorphic tiling one? I barely played that, and only a long time ago at that.

trichoplax

Do they serve hedgehog...?

El'endia Starman

Oh! Forgot about Sonic R!

The songs were so catchy...

Every single time I listen to the first one, I remember the intro to the first track.

You

Hello

I'm here to waste some time in my life. :)

quartata

@El'endiaStarman no this one is the time travel one

R. Kap

Game Theory: How Fast is Sonic the Hedgehog?

►

quartata

12:30 AM

look it up

El'endia Starman

@You That's a given; no need to declare it. :P

You

@El'endiaStarman But that's how I wasted my time! :(

Now I can't waste my time. Cries

R. Kap

Sonic? More like...I don't know, something that rhymes with Sonic...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Tonic!

RenderSettings

Chronic

R. Kap

12:32 AM

Aren't we all here to waste our time?...

Something insulting to his so called "speed"...

El'endia Starman

@quartata Huh, interesting.

trichoplax

Dec 30 '15 at 20:53, by PhiNotPi

Great minds waste time alike?

quartata

I can't decide whether I enjoyed CD or 2 better.

El'endia Starman

S3&K was probably my favorite, but I grew up with 2 so I've got a strong connection to that one too.

I grew up with Sonic R too.

quartata

I never got to play sonic 3 with sonic and knuckles attached until recently actually

El'endia Starman

12:35 AM

@quartata Via emulator?

quartata

nope borrowed a physical copy from a friend

El'endia Starman

Emulator was how I first played Sonic 3, I think. I did have the Knuckles attachment when I was growing up too, so I did play S2&K.

quartata

I keep my old consoles or at least try to

I suppose sonic and knuckles was the first DLC :P

El'endia Starman

@quartata haha, yeah

Sonic R - Resort Island

►

^ First level of Sonic R, incidentally.

trichoplax

@QPaysTaxes I'm guessing in the first one

The second one will assign everything up to (but not including) item length-n

quartata

12:39 AM

Oh, I don't think I played R. I didn't have a Saturn ever

I was always curious what it was like

El'endia Starman

I had it as a CD for desktop computers.

It unfortunately broke a few years ago. :(

quartata

rip

Helka Homba

How ironic that you can't Google "Google +" >_>

El'endia Starman

Oh whaddya know, there are speedruns of Sonic R on Youtube! :D

A Nerd - I

So at school today I was programming something and ended up writing ~100 lines of code in Eclipse. I finished as the bell rang. I thought emailing it to myself would be faster than making a GitHub repo, but the email did not preserve tabbing. Now I am sad.

TL;DR: Spaces > Tabs

Helka Homba

12:44 AM

Why not mail yourself the txt file?

A Nerd - I

The bell rang and the teacher of my next period gets really upset when people come late. Copy-Paste-Email seemed like it would be the fastest-algorithm.

quartata

One of the perks of universities with good computer labs is that you can ssh and ftp into them

Something for you to look forward to:P

cat

@ANerd-I it's java, not python, just beautify it

A Nerd - I

@cat This?

cat

@ANerd-I yeeees, that exactly

aditsu

12:49 AM

@Dennis boobies and mustache? I'm confused -_-

cat

I beautify and golf Golang with that Java Beautifier/minifier :P

A Nerd - I

Plot twist I can't find the email

I literally just had it and it's not there anymore

quartata

DELETE
D

A Nerd - I

Never mind I was looking at the wrong email account...

I should sleep

quartata

@AlexA. am I doing the meme right?

Maltysen

12:51 AM

@ANerd-I in atom packages > whitespace > space-to-tabs

quartata

I don't understand the meme metagame anymore

Alex A.

@quartata Yes

quartata

@Maltysen Atom runs in a Chromium instance right

Alex A.

@Maltysen NO

@quartata Yes

Maltysen

@quartata yes

quartata

12:52 AM

That sounds awful

RenderSettings

@quartata Kinda??? It's Electron, which is Blink, but not actually Chromium

Maltysen

@quartata its actually really nice

gives you dev console

quartata

Is it written in JS then?

Maltysen

and the entire thing is written in js

@quartata ^

quartata

oh my no

Maltysen

12:53 AM

@quartata most of its actually coffeescript which is even better

Alex A.

strawpoll.me/10021886

quartata

How can it even access files

feersum

Now I feel good about getting pissed off and abandoning it 20 seconds after trying Atom.

I must have good taste.

A Nerd - I

Thanks, email!

quartata

This is horrifying I literally want to go to GitHub HQ and hit someone with a copy of learning vi and vim

aditsu

12:55 AM

@AlexA. you might as well have phrased it "are you retarded?"

A Nerd - I

^

Alex A.

@aditsu Hahaha

RenderSettings

I've had "write a text editor" on my TODO list for like a year...

Maltysen

@quartata its electron, not actual chrome

quartata

@Maltysen that changes nothing

Maltysen

12:58 AM

@quartata electron gives you native apis

also, you can write code in c++

quartata

who the hell thought "ok we're going to write a GUI desktop text editor so the first thing we're gonna do is write it in the worst possible tool for the job"

RenderSettings

It does have pretty shitty performance though...

feersum

Does it crash if you open a several MB file?

RenderSettings

It's very extensible, though

Maltysen

@RenderSettings its better than eclipse

RenderSettings

12:59 AM

Eclipse is a full IDE. Atom is a text editor. [citation needed]

Alex A.

strawpoll.me/10021917

@RenderSettings It has plugins that make it more IDE-like

Maltysen

also, snippets

quartata

Try geany I guarantee you it'll do almost everything atom can do and absolutely kick its ass at performance

Maltysen

@quartata I used to use geany

RenderSettings

@AlexA. I can't help but think this is going to end in a flamewar

Alex A.

1:01 AM

That's why it's an anonymous poll

aditsu

@AlexA. none of the above :p

Alex A.

@aditsu Uh, okay. What's an option that isn't covered by those three? I thought that generally covered it but idk.

quartata

@AlexA. cannot vote on mobile pretend there is a yes vote

Alex A.

ok

A Nerd - I

@RenderSettings I would hope that there wouldn't need to be in today's society... :(

aditsu

1:02 AM

@AlexA. one option is "I don't care either way"; my answer is close but somewhat more specific than that

Alex A.

Oh, okay

RenderSettings

The argument I see most often about same-sex marriage is people not recognizing that legal marriage and religious marriage are completely different. When the supreme court ruled it unconstitutional for states not to recognize it, my step-dad got angry about the gubmint forcing churches to marry gay people or they go to jail.

It's just about marriage licenses, so they are spouses on legal forms and can take over medical decisions and other important stuff :(

aditsu

that also factors in my answer ^

feersum

That's not so far from the real cases of lawsuits against people who don't want to provide marriage-related services.

A Nerd - I

@QPaysTaxes Ironic, given your username

Downgoat

1:05 AM

Does any (non-esolang) programming language use ^ for exponentiation?

@Downgoat Pyth :P

@Downgoat Julia

@Downgoat Haskell

Mathematica, Matlab...

aditsu

Haskell has at least 3 operators for that, one of them "^"

Alex A.

1:06 AM

@Downgoat R

RenderSettings

@Downgoat Lua

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat Pytek

Alex A.

@QPaysTaxes It meets our definition

RenderSettings

Very carefully

quartata

@QPaysTaxes It has for loops and if statements

El'endia Starman

1:08 AM

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Q: How to produce a list of prime numbers in LaTeX

I would like to write a LaTeX script that produces all the prime numbers between the numbers n and m, where n < m. How can I do this? I feel it should not be that hard, but I cannot seem to program it.

tables diagrams calculations code

feersum

Lame, uses builtins.

Maltysen

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A: How to produce a list of prime numbers in LaTeX

\documentclass{article} % \makeatletter \def\primes#1#2{{% \def\comma{\def\comma{, }}% \count@\@ne\@tempcntb#2\relax\@curtab#1\relax \@primes}} \def\@primes{\loop\advance\count@\@ne \expandafter\ifx\csname p-\the\count@\endcsname\relax \ifnum\@tempcntb<\count@\else \ifnum\count@<\@curta...

aditsu

\make a t letter?

feersum

Why does he have to tell it to relax so often? Maybe there's a less neurotic interpreter.

El'endia Starman

I didn't even realize that the link I got from Google pointed to a specific answer.

aditsu

1:12 AM

5

RenderSettings

@feersum Ah yes, the INTERCAL approach to compiler appeasement

A Nerd - I

@aditsu Ugh, latex puns >:(

When I first started learning LaTeX, I decided to look up what this amazing font looked like on Google. So I searched "latex" and clicked on "Images". I was in my school library at the time.

*Oops*

aditsu

well, those images do look amazing :)

A Nerd - I

@aditsu ( ͡ಠ ͜ʖ ͡ಠ)

aditsu

South Park Music - I'm Gonna Make Love To You, Woman

►

Alex A.

1:22 AM

._.

aditsu

🐦_🐦

oh btw, I saw something amazing today :)

2

A Nerd - I

stars from a Mac

El'endia Starman

@aditsu [vigorously stars]

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Q: What's the missing column/row? (GCJ 2016-1A rankfile)

There is an N x N square of numbers. All columns increase monotonically from top to down All rows increase monotonically from left to right There is exactly one valid answer for each input. You are given 2N-1 rows of N numbers representing rows or columns in this square. The task is to find t...

code-golf

Alex A.

@aditsu ಠ_ಠ

aditsu

1:27 AM

@NewMainPosts heh, I should post the solution I actually submitted :)

done

quartata

Hey, do any of you JS people know how to do something with <script> tags with a specific type?

Can I just get it from the DOM?

Will the browser ignore it if it doesn't know the type?

Downgoat

@quartata :what do you mean?

yeah

quartata

OK, suppose I have a document with a script tag like <script type="text/perl">

And I want to read all such scripts and do something with them

I can just retrieve them from the DOM right?

Downgoat

const TYPE = "text/perl;
[...document.querySelectorAll(`script[type=${TYPE}]`)].forEach(script => {
     // do something with script
});

@quartata yeah,

quartata

All right, good.

Downgoat

1:42 AM

@quartata are you coding this in JavaScript? :D

quartata

Most of it is in C with Pepper.

I only need a little JS to glue things together

Downgoat

D:

>:U

quartata

(and only because I have to)

Downgoat

-1

That reminds me, I am really behind on Cheddar...

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Q: Seeing questions that actually have this tag

If you go here and scroll to the bottom, you'll find this tag: braces. This tag is a synonym of balanced-string, and rightfully so, as is brackets. I can't seem to figure out how to see questions tagged with braces and brackets, though. (That is, assuming there are any, which the link above cer...

support tags

quartata

1:44 AM

@Downgoat Yeah, you're really not going to like it when you see what this is

Downgoat

:/

quartata

Let's just say in a couple months hopefully this'll be a thing:

sub onPress {
  $elementsByID["para"]->innerHTML = "Hello!"
}

$elementsByID["button"]->onClick = \&onPress
print "Ready."

Alex A.

@quartata what is pepper

Downgoat

eeewwwwwwww, PHP ;_;

quartata

@Downgoat Uh, this is clearly Perl

@AlexA. pNaCl's API

Downgoat

1:49 AM

eeewwwwwwww, Perl ;_;

I thought perl was good

quartata

I don't see what's wrong with this?

Downgoat

I didn't think it had PHP-bad syntax

RenderSettings

Ha

Alex A.

@quartata what is pnacl api

quartata

Well PHP was just a modification to Perl initially...

Downgoat

1:49 AM

what's with all the $, \& and why ->

@AlexA. phosphorus table salt

quartata

@Downgoat \& gets a reference to a function

-> is how you access members of an object

$ is a funny char

Downgoat

what was wrong with .

Alex A.

@Downgoat That's no more illuminating

quartata

Google Native Client

Not to be confused with Networking and Cryptography library. Google Native Client (NaCl) is a sandboxing technology for running a subset of Intel x86/x86-64, ARM or MIPS native code in a sandbox. It allows safely running native code from a web browser, independent of the user operating system, allowing web-based applications to run at near-native speeds, which aligns with Google's plans for Chrome OS. It may also be used for securing browser plugins, and parts of other applications or full applications such as ZeroVM. To demonstrate the readiness of the technology, on 9 December 2011, Googl...

RenderSettings

It's Perl. Back then people didn't know how to write unambigious grammar parsers.

quartata

1:50 AM

@RenderSettings Uh, no.

RenderSettings

yeah, that's actually complete bullshit but it sounds like it could be true :p

quartata

. is concat in Perl.

That's why.