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7:00 PM
@Zgarb hahahaha
 
@TIOBegs ಠ_ಠ
@Doorknob's "STOP CHANGING YOUR NAMES"
 
Should I mute him? :/
 
That's up to you I guess.
 
@tac re. your python hate ಠ_ಠ
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ don't comment.
 
7:04 PM
@EasterlyIrk When did he say he dislikes Python?
 
Haha:
> Briefly, here's how we write an equation using infix:

2 + 2 == 5
Which would evaluate to something like True in Python.
2
 
XD
 
@EasterlyIrk I resist the temptation.
 
ಠ_ಠ
@AlexA. in the linked docs somewhere
@AlexA. He basically said python is stupid.
 
Sorry, that's hilarious no matter how much you like python.
(and i don't, which makes it better)
> ... because of course, 2 + 2 is only 5 in Python.
 
7:06 PM
@EasterlyIrk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
@TIOBegs ಠ_ಠ
Wait, but it is written in python? o_O
 
Whoa, what the hell is this def f(x) -> type: syntax? O_O
I've never seen that in Python
 
I think that's new in 3.6
I forgot what it does.
 
I assume it declares the return type
 
so wait python actually got their act together and added symbolic lambdas?
 
7:09 PM
Yeah, but I mean what effect it has in practice.
 
Might help with speed? Idk. I guess it's helpful from a readability standpoint to know what you expect the function to return.
 
The syntax of the Python programming language is the set of rules that defines how a Python program will be written and interpreted (by both the runtime system and by human readers). == Design philosophy == Python was designed to be a highly readable language. It has a relatively uncluttered visual layout and uses English keywords frequently where other languages use punctuation. Python aims towards simplicity and generality in the design of its syntax, encapsulated in the mantra "There should be one—and preferably only one—obvious way to do it", from "The Zen of Python". This mantra is d...
um
 
ಥ_ಥ it's so cringy
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@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ No
 
7:10 PM
ಥ_ಥ WHY PYTHON
ಥ_ಥ
 
Becuase it is good.
 
symbolic lambda ftw
 
@EasterlyIrk I thought you were a javascripter? >_>
 
> class CaptainHook(object):
beautiful
 
> The behaviour of annotations is not defined by the language, and is left to third party frameworks.
 
7:13 PM
@AlexA. I (somehow) read this as class CaptainCrunch
 
@AquaTart That would be similarly acceptable in terms of humor but is less descriptive of the class ("""allows "hooking" index variable assignment""")
 
Oh, where is this?
I must see more of this excellent source code
 
You just need to find a compression class to name, then.
 
> sys.setrecursionlimit(sys.getrecursionlimit() * 3)
that's a real winner right there
Better than sys.setrecursionlimit(9999999999999999999999999) I suppose
 
7:15 PM
You had to tack in a few more 9s, huh? XD
 
sys.setrecursionlimit(9**9**9**9**9**9**9)
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I'm pretty sure Pyth has something like this but I can't remember how many 9s it is
 
Set it to -1.
 
@AquaTart oh lol XD
 
import numpy as np; sys.setrecursionlimit(np.inf)
 
7:16 PM
@AlexA. That better not work
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Sequence identification time! This time, it's slightly less obscure. Starting with x = 2: 3, 4, 6, 9, 11. I'm not sure about the last two.
 
@AlexA. Not everyone has numpy on their desktop though, so invalid.
 
The question is only: What kind of infinity is it?
 
@PhiNotPi The indiegogo site says if they reach $30,000 they would go open source. They didn't make that goal.
I'd be willing to join/form a group of PPCGers
 
7:18 PM
Just increment the recursion limit in the first line of all your functions.
 
@flawr The good kind
 
Apparently it's finite infinity.
 
@ballesta25 Nah, just one recursive one :P
 
@flawr It's... complex.
hahaha
 
@ballesta25 That's actually a really good way of doing it
 
7:20 PM
@AquaTart א
 
@AlexA. Is there a good kind of infinity? Math usually gets weird whenever any kind of infinity comes into play. Sometimes even before.
 
@flawr Countable infinity is best infinity
 
@flawr Usually about 5 before you hit infinity, right?
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What is Infinity/Infinity in your language of choice?
 
NaN in Julia
 
7:21 PM
NaN in JS
So far, so sane
 
@TIOBegs Well usually about 5 after starting to count.
 
Oh, here's a good one: bitwise negate infinity.
 
@AlexA. I had to squint to figure out what that was
Why does it render so tiny
 
But that does not make a difference, does it?
 
> ~Infinity
< -1
~0 = -1, thus, Infinity = 0.
 
7:22 PM
@AquaTart I blame Wikiped.
 
@AquaTart Because it is the smallest infinity.
 
^
Better answer
 
@AlexA. rofl
 
PS C:\Tools\Scripts\golfing> ([double]1/0)/([double]1/0)
NaN
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ??? Undefined function or variable 'Infinity'.
 
7:24 PM
What language is that?
 
Matlab^^
 
It's Inf in matlab I think
 
I know=)
 
k
Anyways, it's NaN like any sane language
 
7:25 PM
apply the minimal number of characters requirement also to chat messages.
 
What's it in python?
 
@flawr k
 
Wow ...
PS C:\Tools\Scripts\golfing> -bnot([double]1/0)
Cannot convert the "Infinity" value of type "System.Double" to type "System.UInt64".
At line:1 char:1
+ -bnot([double]1/0)
+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    + CategoryInfo          : InvalidArgument: (:) [], RuntimeException
    + FullyQualifiedErrorId : ConvertToFinalInvalidCastException
 
> FullyQualifiedErrorId : ConvertToFinalInvalidCastException
Even PowerShell's errors are verbose :P
 
7:27 PM
Yeah, and that's just the standard error.
 
I'm actually really impressed by your ability to golf PowerShell, @TimmyD.
 
Thanks! :D
This 2016 APL thing is dang tricky, though
But overall, I'm really enjoying my time here
 
I'm glad!
 
I could do Jelly, except, by December 2016 none of the snippets would run.
 
Agnostic. That's the word!
If a script is compatible with multiple versions, the script is version agnostic.
 
7:35 PM
Oh, yeah. That makes sense.
 
How about superstituous?
Perhaps that is a script that crashes whenever the value 13 appears.
 
Version My-parents-baptized-me-but-I-don't-go
 
Version t?
I don't put tails on my lowercase t so that's a t for me
 
what font are you using? o_O
 
7:39 PM
@BrainLot Yea, we should go burn a big lower-case t in their yard! You know, for "time to leave".
 
o_o
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Verdana I think
 
whose yard?
@BrainLot The symbol is a 3D cross. What does it look like to you?
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Seriously, a cross. Jokingly, a lowercase t.
 
@BrainLot Ah, so it's a lowercase t :P
 
7:41 PM
Seriously has a cross operator?
 
No, it's a data object. :P
 
@TimmyD Yea. For when numbers get angry.
 
@AlexA. Those are lovely
 
@tac Your commit messages read like poetry
 
7:42 PM
You guys don't watch enough south park :/
 
> this isn't lisp :((
s/:\(\(/:\)\)/g
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ This isn't ><>
 
Gotta escape those characters.
 
@tac Your commit messages aren't informative according to my standards. Sorry XD
 
@zya Your standards are too high :P
Interesting problem: Given an W by W grid of dots, what is the minimal number of N lines that cover each point at least once? You may exit the grid. For example, for W = 4, N = 6, and for W = 3, N = 4. (I may expand this at one point into a challenge.)
 
7:58 PM
For the APL challenge, do you suppose Boolean-not is allowable?
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I'm pretty sure the optimal algorithm greedily takes remaining points, finds line that contains the most points and that isn't parallel to one of the two ends, and connects them
 
@NathanMerrill That makes sense.
@TimmyD Yes, I should think so.
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I don't understand the problem. Why can't you cover the points with W vertical lines?
 
@Zgarb Ah, whoops. They are connected.
 
Ok, then you can do W+1 by adding one horizontal line.
 
8:06 PM
They must be connected at the vertices. Think of it like "without lifting your pencil".
Sorry for the ambiguity :P
 
Ooh, that makes more sense.
 
Just hafta use a thick enough line.
 
The points are arbitrarily spaced :P
 
:D
 
Are those imperial points?
 
8:12 PM
@flawr y
> flawr y
Flowery XD
 
Spoiler alert
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@TIOBegs Both.
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Is that a trademark Conor bai™?
 
He'll be back.
 
8:15 PM
I know.
 
Oh yeah a new invention: Imperial bytes: Made of 7 bits.
 
Kinda like a baker's byte of 9?
 
Too good that was not invented yet (looking at you US-ASCII)
 
Anonymous
@flawr Excuse you, the proper spelling is US/ASCII
 
@NathanMerrill Thanks. :D It's one of the things I've wanted to see implemented in Vitsy for a long time, because people rarely understand what's going on in Vitsy (non-verbose).
 
Anonymous
8:18 PM
@AlexA. Looks like Cython
 
@Mego Nah, it's 3.6.
 
Anonymous
@AlexA. You sure?
 
1 hour ago, by Zgarb
I think that's new in 3.6
 
Anonymous
@AlexA. That was apparently added in 3.0
 
8:23 PM
@Mego Okay. I don't follow Python development. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
4 hours ago, by zyabin101
I have a plan to program Tetris in an esoteric language. Does this plan deserve its own chatroom?
 
@Mego Oh, I didn't know that either.
 
@zyabin101 whynaut?
 
Anonymous
The new string formatting syntax in 3.6 will be nice for golf
 
Anonymous
8:25 PM
a=5
print(f"a == {a}")
 
Anonymous
That will output a == 5
 
@CoolestVeto Okay, so I have one supporter. I need two more.
 
@Mego That will output a == 5 2+2==5
 
@TimmyD No. f"2+2=={a}" does 2+2==5 for a = 5.
 
Anonymous
Man, having bad allergies sucks
 
8:31 PM
@Mego What kind?
 
Guys, I've made the best code ever.
In Vitsy. :D
 
Anonymous
@flawr Mostly seasonal, though mountain cedar is pretty bad
 
Anonymous
I felt fine, and then I sneezed
 
Can somebody explain why this is getting downvoted?
 
Anonymous
And now it's all "God, are you there? It's me, Mego" in my nose
 
8:32 PM
I don't see why, but I might be missing something.
@Mego I know.... (-o
 
@Mego Oh no. Must really suck.
 
Anonymous
@EasterlyIrk It's because the solution is almost certainly longer than just using the actual number
 
Every spring/summer I feel so lucky that I don't have any of those.
 
Oh, okay. :P
 
Guys, I've made the best code ever. Oh?! In Vitsy. Oh.
:D
 
8:33 PM
@Mego I agree wholeheartedly
 
Anonymous
Also the user created a new account because their last answer got deleted
 
@CoolestVeto Let's see it! Let's see it!
 
@Mego Both accounts are unregistered.
 
@CoolestVeto Show it! People want to! >_<
@AlexA. How?
 
8:43 PM
in PPCG Code Snippet Chat Bot, 17 secs ago, by CoolestVeto
= vitsy "zl\['#&'OON';'O]" "" "¯_(ツ)_/¯"
in PPCG Code Snippet Chat Bot, 27 secs ago, by Data
@CoolestVeto &#175;&#92;&#95;&#40;&#12484;&#41;&#95;&#47;&#175;
Text -> HTML supported chars.
 
55
Q: What does it mean when someone's an Unregistered User?

Erik BI looked at someone's profile and it said Unregistered User. What does that mean?

 
@Mego That's an odd one. Shuffled digits?
 
Too bad that Data hates me and won't eval my things... ;(
 
426 bytes and I'm got 0 through 40 ... under 1000 is looking pretty unlikely
 
> (-o
Duuude in a boooat!
@TimmyD 2016 Dyalog? If so, which language?
 
8:49 PM
@zyabin101 Looks like a skilift t-bar
 
@zyabin101 PowerShell, natch
 
@flawr Skaaailift tee-baaar!
 
@TimmyD Natch?
 
Dude in a boat sounded simpler.
 
Anonymous
@AlexA. He made Minecroft
 
8:52 PM
Minecruft
 
@zyabin101 Or Mike from Monster Inc
 
@AlexA. "Natch"-urally
 
@TimmyD HAAAAAAAAAAAAH ಠ_ಠ
 
Natch?
 
It's a perfectly cromulent word.
 
8:55 PM
 
@TimmyD Aren't those the bad guys in Star Trek?
 
Anonymous
@AlexA. No those are Romulans. You're thinking of the bad guys from Assassin's Creed.
 
It was yolk
 
fun maths time!
 
s/s//
 
8:57 PM
prompted by a question from Alex I was trying to solve the continued fraction 1-1/(1-1/(1-...)) ... and got two complex results:
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Q: Why is 1-1/(1-1/(1-...)) complex?

Martin BüttnerSo we all know that the continued fraction containing all $1$s... $$ x = 1 + \frac{1}{1 + \frac{1}{1 + \ldots}} $$ yields the golden ratio $x = \phi$, which can easily be proven by rewriting it as $x = 1 + 1/x$, solving the resulting quadratic equation and assuming that a continued fraction tha...

 
Anonymous
@AlexA. No that's the stuff in the egg. You're thinking of albumen.
 
Anonymous
Every good source of confusion starts with "prompted by a question from Alex"
 
(as an aside I have never received 12 votes and 6 favourites on a question in 5 minutes before)
 
@AlexA. I'm pretty sure yolks aren't bad guys in Assassin's Creed
 
@AquaTart I dunno, I would definitely count the airplanes as bad guys.
 
Anonymous
9:01 PM
@MorganThrapp I don't recall any airplanes in AC. Maybe the stupid side missions for Leo that I didn't do?
 
@Mego I never actually played AC. I was making a yolk/yoke joke.
 
I have never played Assassin's Creed either
 
Anonymous
Really good games as long as you don't go past 4
 
Also, yolk yoke joke is really fun to say.
 
Anonymous
Well, 3, really
 
Anonymous
9:02 PM
4 is a really good pirate game
 
I saw someone play 4 once does that count as going past 3
 
Anonymous
No :P
 
Good so I haven't been scarred for life
 
Anonymous
I meant the first 5 games are really good AC games. 4 is a good pirate game. Rogue is I don't even know. Syndicate is a better GTA game than GTA.
 
@Mego ಠ_ಠ
 
9:05 PM
Ugh, I can't stand newer Ubisoft games.
 
Rayman Origins was pretty good.
...then again that was 2011
 
They're all the same. Pseudo open world, with supposed quests sprinkled about, activate this McGuffin to show things on your map, etc.
I mean, I was playing Watch_Dogs and thinking "Man, they just took FarCry 3 and swapped the trees for buildings"
 
The last two games I've played were Bioshock Infinite and Firewatch, both of which I would recommend.
 
I like watching my girlfriend play Bioshock Infinite but the gameplay itself looks like it'd be rather dull.
 
Anonymous
Bioshock Infinite is one of those games that attempted to be standalone from the rest of the series but doesn't make much sense without the context
 
9:10 PM
All I know about Bioshock is that it's really pretty
 
Anonymous
You have a lot better appreciation for Infinite if you know the story of 1 and 2
 
I'd never played the first two, and was only loosely aware of the story of them and I thought BSI was phenomenal.
 
I tried to play one of the BS once, but the stuff there freaked me out.
 
FGITW, go!
 
@TimmyD Except that Watch Dogs is really an AC game
 
9:14 PM
@HelkaHomba awh man the second I go to do errands...
Why can't you let us know in advance or something
 
Anonymous
Man, I miss Calvin. This new guy's challenges just aren't as good.
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mm whatever
 
What happened to Calvin?
 
@CoolestVeto Well, sure. AC, WD, FC ... essentially the same
 
@Mego >_>
 
9:15 PM
@flawr watched too many plane crashes
 
Anonymous
@HelkaHomba I i
 
@flawr I'm right here
 
Yeah. "Helka Homba" is an anagram for "Calvin's Hobbies"
3
 
Oh, I thought "Helka Homba" was an anagram for "Hello Kitty."
 
Anything is an anagram if you're willing to cheat.
 
9:25 PM
@CoolestVeto On the plus side, Watch-underscore-Dogs helped me realize that I don't care for open-world style gameplay. I was trying to figure out why I finish games like Halo, Uncharted, Half-Life ... but either get bored or despise games like FarCry 3, AC, GTA, Saints Row ... etc.
So, thanks, Ubisoft, for helping me realize that I won't purchase any of your future games?
 
5
Q: Shifty Eyes Shifting I's

Helka HombaShifty-eyes ASCII guys like to shift ASCII Ii's: >_> <_< >_< <_> Given a string of shifty-guys, spaced apart or separate lines, shift the Ii's side to side, left the wall and right the skies: Ii The shortest shifter wins the prize. Say What? Write a program or function that takes in a str...

 
@NewMainPosts Dang, you need some coffee. 13 minutes? Slacking off.
 
@TimmyD Have you played XIII? That's a fun Ubisoft game. It's a linear, story-based FPS. Pretty old at this point.
 
I've not. I'll add it to my backlog.
 
It's actually one of my favorite games ever, though that may partially be for nostalgia's sake since I started playing it in middle school.
 
9:28 PM
@AquaTart Well the last one I posted was a really nice one, so that should last for a while.
 
Anonymous
@AlexA. At first I thought you were calling FFXIII an old, linear, story-based FPS
 
Well, FF XIII is pretty linear
 
I don't know what FFXIII is
 
Anonymous
Final Fantasy 13
 
Oh
Never played a Final Fantasy game
 
Anonymous
9:30 PM
I've played the 2 that matter, 6 and 7
 
I've played US-1 (FFIII), didn't finish it. VII, didn't finish it. XIII, didn't finish it.
I liked the storyline of XIII, it just got soooo bogged down and repetitive.
 
@TimmyD Huh. I'm just the opposite. :P
 
I've shared this before, but it's relevant and I'm proud of it, so I'll share again.
 
Anonymous
@TimmyD DKC 100% takes like 2 hours though
 
Anonymous
2 hours isn't even enough for a single Civ 5 game
 
Anonymous
9:34 PM
Well it's actually 102% but w/e
 
Anonymous
SMW 100% is similarly easy/quick :P
 
To be fair, I've not played either of those in years, excepting verifying that the cartridge(s) work.
Or trying out the new SCART connection I just recently setup.
So that "Completed: No" is really my 10-year-old self going "Didn't finish, moving on"
 
Anonymous
100% in the Prime trilogy is a nightmare so I won't harass you about that :P
 
Oh, that's slightly out of date. I need to move Rise of the Tomb Raider up to the 100% category.
 
Anonymous
Giving Sonic Spinball a 6 might be a bit too nice
 
9:38 PM
But that's essentially what started my list. "I don't seem to complete many games. I wonder how many it actually is."
 
Anonymous
You need to bump OoT and MM to the front of your backlog
 
Heh. I didn't have a N64 when they came out (I was really into PC at that time and didn't really have a place for it anyway since we only had one TV growing up), so I've actually never even played them.
 
Anonymous
I didn't have an N64 growing up, either
 
Anonymous
I bought one off of ebay a few years back and got all the classics (OoT, MM, SM64, Goldeneye)
 
I should get a picture of my console area, now that I'm an adult and have disposable income, and share it here.
I'm still in progress of getting it put together, though.
Need to mod my NES for RGB, and send in my N64 for HDMI mod.
GCN, Wii, NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, PS3, X360, XOne ... routed through an Onkyo receiver into a 60" plasma.
 
Anonymous
9:46 PM
I have SNES, N64, PS2, Wii, X360, and X1, with no sane routing solution :P
 
ಠ_ಠ Someone's trying to DDoS me through SSH.
Moron.
 
Anonymous
Sorry I'll stop
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
Anonymous
:P
 
I didn't know you lived in Portugal.
 
Anonymous
9:47 PM
I live everywhere, man
 
The Wii and GCN are both using component, the NES and N64 using composite, the SNES and Genesis using component via SCART via RGB, the PS3 X360 and XONE using HDMI.
Shortly (yet this spring, hopefully), the NES will join the component/SCART/RGB lineup and the N64 joins the HDMI lineup.
 
Anonymous
My Wii and PS2 fight for the one composite input on my TV, the SNES uses RF, the One and the PC use HDMI, and the 360 uses HDMI via the One
 
Anonymous
And I haven't turned on the N64 in ages (also composite)
 
> the SNES uses RF
:-(
 
RF. I remember hooking that one up. Good times.
 
Anonymous
9:50 PM
It's what came with the SNES :P
 
Better times: When we got the composite cable. ^^
 
Anonymous
I also have a composite cable for the SNES by virtue of having an N64
 
SNES uses the same multi-out ... you could at least slap a composite cable on it.
Self-ninja'd?
 
Anonymous
Yep
 
Anonymous
I just usually use the RF because of the 1-composite-input issue on the TV
 
9:51 PM
That's like, a second-person-voice ninja
 
Anonymous
My gf recently bought the Kingdom Hearts games because she has always wanted to play them, so she's using the PS2 (and thus the 1 composite input)
 
Yeah, be careful. Getting one console output RGB is like an addiction. It looks so good, you want the rest to look like that, too.
I mean, playing NBA Jam on the Genesis and being able to read the player stats is pretty amazing.
 
Anonymous
I don't notice a difference between RF and composite on the SNES
 
I ... find that hard to believe.
 
I guess if you're blowing everything up to 60", it won't make as much of a difference =P
"Blurry upscaled stuff" vs "Blurrier upscaled stuff"
Wait, that was TimmyD's setup
 
Anonymous
9:56 PM
Yeah mine is a 32" lcd
 
Well, good thing that the 240p output is scaled 4x to 960p and then displayed letterboxed. :D
Same number of "pixels," they're just bigger
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Fricative MelonWaste not, want not popularity-contest There are so many awesome esolangs out there, but most of them are either redundant, or don't use all of ASCII, or aren't Turing complete. I want a language such that every ASCII character from 32 to 126 is used, such that removing any one of them makes t...

 
Anyway, I gotta head out
Catch y'all later
 
'night ^^
 

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