The Nineteenth Byte

3:00 AM

@SetBigO But then there's Seattle, where Kshama Sawant, a very... uh... passionate... socialist, won city council election by a large margin.

Skyl3r

I guess the question is more: If the american population had to choose between a "Socialist" and "Atheist" which would be more likely?

Socialist

Socialist

^

@WᴏᴛADᴏɴɢ it needs a roomid to connect to a domain, but without an initial domain it can't connect

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

3:00 AM

@Quill so how 2 fix?

Maltysen

@Dennis I think the source doesn't really matter, its just a stand in for an explanation

Skyl3r

Does atheist get a bad connotation? Like people think "Socialist... Communism! Bad!"

Alex A.

@HelkaHomba Because they haven't learned enough about them ;)

Quill

It's supposed to pull the first room from each domain but because you removed the domains, there's nothing to connect to

Skyl3r

Is it "Atheist... Satan worshipper!"

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

3:01 AM

@Quill what domain?

Easterly Irk

@Quill seriously need to fix the running commands while joined.

Set Big O

@Skyl3r It can be any number of things. I've had people tell my son to his face that he was going to burn in hell. When he was six.

Dennis

@Maltysen It's either a requirement or it isn't. There is no middle ground.

Alex A.

@Skyl3r Well, so much of the US is Christian that admitting you aren't is basically a death sentence in terms of getting votes.

mınxomaτ

@Dennis No it doesn't have to. Since this is not scored by the actual code. The inclusion of the source code might make more sense if it is optional. The main thing that might confuse you is that there is no requirement of reproducibility at all. The only requirement is that the host can run the binary to score it.

Quill

3:02 AM

@EasterlyIrk the root cause is complicated, I don't even know if I can fix it

Skyl3r

@AlexA. Don't a rather large amount of the population feel the same about Socialism?

mınxomaτ

@Dennis Right, but even if it is a requirement, it implies no consequences whatsoever.

Skyl3r

@SetBigO Wow. I can imagine that being traumatizing.

Set Big O

@Skyl3r No, because some people equate atheism to having no morals whatsoever.

Dennis

@mınxomaτ You make it sound like I could post source code for a Hello World program to all size coding challenges.

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

3:03 AM

@Quill for a code reviewer your code has surprisingly few comments

Alex A.

@SetBigO Holy shit. I'm so sorry that happened. :(

Skyl3r

@SetBigO Good point. I forgot that we need an objective law maker.

Maltysen

@mınxomaτ can the binary then be handwritten then?

Helka Homba

@Skyl3r Bernie Sanders called himself a "democratic socialist", and he's the democratic second place candidate

Alex A.

> second place

;-;

New Meta Posts

3:03 AM

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Q: Tag / challenge type proposal: Size coding

This question and proposal is different from this one, since this proposal includes a scoring mechanism that is vastly different from code-golf. What is size coding? Size coding as a form of competetion has been established in 1998 by HUGI (a demoscene e-zine). The competitions ("compos") have ...

mınxomaτ

@Maltysen Yes of course, but this is not feasible for anything but COM :D

Quill

@WᴏᴛADᴏɴɢ I prefer the outlook that code should be self commenting

Set Big O

@AlexA. Nah, he's a tough kid. It's never too early to learn that some people just suck.

Maltysen

@AlexA. out of two and some guy with .6% of the popular vote

Helka Homba

Do we need a politics chatroom?

Alex A.

3:04 AM

@Maltysen Martin O'Malley dropped out

Skyl3r

@HelkaHomba My question was actually because I heard that if Bernie wins the democratic nomination, then it's essentially a guaranteed republican win because the American population does not like socialism.

Alex A.

@HelkaHomba IMO no

Set Big O

@HelkaHomba We have one right here :P

Dennis

Sadly.

Set Big O

@Skyl3r Bernie would beat any of the Republican candidates by good margins according to most polls.

Alex A.

3:05 AM

Here's hoping

Skyl3r

@HelkaHomba Sorry, about that.

Easterly Irk

Yeah, but trump will beat all if @Mego votes for him...

DON"T VOTE TRUMP PLS

Set Big O

Take the polling for what it's worth, though. They're not always very accurate this far out.

Alex A.

@Dennis rekt

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

@Quill can't you do if (Object.keys(domain.rooms[firstDomainName]).length) and if that is true, then call connectDomainRooms?

also, why are you using Object and not Map

mınxomaτ

3:06 AM

@Dennis I changed that to "explanation". Might be code or not.

Skyl3r

@SetBigO Ah interesting. I hadn't heard that.

Liam

@Dennis could you give me a brief explanation of how you memoized your phi function?

Alex A.

When I searched for Washington Democratic caucus in Google the other day, the top result was on voteforbernie.org. :P

Helka Homba

@AlexA. but we could call it "The Nineteenth Sound Bite" or something

Quill

@WᴏᴛADᴏɴɢ Object not map? What do you mean?

Maltysen

3:07 AM

@AlexA. you should publicly endorse bernie, and since you're a PPCG mod, he'll automatically win everything

Alex A.

@HelkaHomba It'd likely go the way of Code Golfer's Corner and be active for 20 minutes on the first day and then die.

@Maltysen If only it worked that way...

As it turns out, very few people give a shit what I think. :P

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

@Quill ES6 Map class is much better than object MDN

Liam

Could someone tell me if this is a good edit?
http://codegolf.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/29085
I'm so scared to review these things

Skyl3r

@AlexA. I still trust you :')

Alex A.

<3<3<3

Quill

3:09 AM

@WᴏᴛADᴏɴɢ because I'm not writing ES6 until I get babel setup

Helka Homba

@Maltysen Either that, or when we have mod elections, Trumpers will downvote Alex

Dennis

@Liam I'm not using memoization anymore since revision 12. Instead, I precompute Phi(m, b) for small values of m.

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

@Quill Node supports ES6

Alex A.

@Liam Yep. I just approved it.

Quill

@WᴏᴛADᴏɴɢ bits and pieces, arrow functions don't work

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

3:10 AM

@Quill Map works

Quill

@WᴏᴛADᴏɴɢ Whether it works for not is a separate issue

I'm coding to ES5

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

ok but can the bug be fixed?

Quill

Which?

Alex A.

@HelkaHomba ;-;

Liam

@Dennis you mean you compute the small values non-recursively?

Set Big O

3:11 AM

@AlexA. What's Code Golfer's Corner?

Skyl3r

What would you do with a philosophy degree?

Set Big O

Starve

Maltysen

REKT

Alex A.

@SetBigO A separate chat room dedicated to discussion specifically about golfing.

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

5 mins ago, by Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

@Quill can't you do if (Object.keys(domain.rooms[firstDomainName]).length) and if that is true, then call connectDomainRooms?

Quill

3:12 AM

@WᴏᴛADᴏɴɢ Which issue?

Set Big O

@AlexA. Huh. Never heard of it.

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

    var initialRoomId = initialRoom.room_id;
                                   ^

TypeError: Cannot read property 'room_id' of undefined

Alex A.

@SetBigO Probably because nobody uses it so it keeps getting frozen for inactivity. :P

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

I think it's because I have no Meta or SO rooms

Maltysen

or you guys can use coffeescript and just use its null-soaking operator

^.^

Alex A.

3:13 AM

Code Golfer's Corner

Discussion specific to golfing code. For general PPCG chatter ...

Dennis

@Liam Yes, by iterating over b. I started with b = 2 in the previous revision, but I'm doing something slightly different now. It turns out that you only need to precompute Phi(m, b) for m = p1...pb (first b primes).

Quill

@WᴏᴛADᴏɴɢ that's what I said

Alex A.

@Quill s/I/she/

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

ಠ_ಠ

Liam

@Dennis ah yeah I see that sounds faster

Set Big O

3:14 AM

Wow, that room has "days later..." more often than this one has "hours later..."

Dennis

@Liam It is. :) Memory speed is my biggest limitation right now. At this point, my notebook is slower than my desktop, despite having a much faster CPU. Speaking of that: How fast is your RAM?

Liam

@Dennis did you read about the extended methodology in that paper linked to from the wikipedia article?

Dennis

No, I kinda want to see how far I get without reading any papers.

Liam

Um I'm not sure? How can I determine how fast my ram is

Aqua Tart

We really need a user whose name is a lenny face to go with @ಠ_ಠ

Helka Homba

3:16 AM

Would you guys agree that $htriped is a valid programming language distinct from Shtriped?

Dennis

@Liam sudo dmidecode --type memory Last line should tell clock speed.

Liam

New Meta Post - Why I Left PPCG: Dennis shamed me into leaving by being too fast

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Set Big O

@AquaTart Don't tempt them :(

Liam

@Dennis I'll run that on my desktop when I get home

and ping you with the result

Dennis

Thanks!

Nathan Merrill

3:18 AM

@HelkaHomba define "distinct"

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

@Quill in /say what do I do for "Message ID"?

Alex A.

@SetBigO ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Helka Homba

@NathanMerrill I mean, I could answer in it normally. (I wouldn't be making two posts in Showcase your Language or anything)

Alex A.

I'm not ಠ_ಠ but maybe I'll be ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°). You never know.

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

@AquaTart brb changing chatgoat's username

Set Big O

3:19 AM

I'm not sure if you can use Lenny as a username anyway. Apparently there are character restrictions, go figure.

Alex A.

√eπ

root e pi

rooty pie

like cutie pie

-1 repost :P

@AlexA. lame

pl0x to link to xkcd, not to the image file

Optimizer

3:20 AM

lame

Alex A.

:(

Quill

@WᴏᴛADᴏɴɢ serious. I thought I fixed that

Dennis

@AquaTart Display Name can only contain letters, digits, spaces, apostrophes or hyphens and must start with a letter or digit

Alex A.

@Dennis For some definition of "letters."

Set Big O

Yea, I don't think the parens or degs would work.

Alex A.

3:21 AM

What are degs?

Set Big O

Well disapproval eyes are letters, just not latin ones.

Optimizer

@setBigO(1)

Dennis

^^

Alex A.

Right

I know that

Aqua Tart

Kannada

feersum

3:22 AM

They don't mention periods which are definitely allowed.

Alex A.

^^ Yes

Dennis

So, Kannadian letters?

Quill

@WᴏᴛADᴏɴɢ github.com/The-Quill/SE-Chat-Terminal/blob/master/chat_modules/…

Set Big O

@AlexA. y u no kno deg deg?

Optimizer

Canadian letters, eh?

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

3:22 AM

@Quill ?

Alex A.

They're all shaped like Mounties covered in maple syrup riding mooses

Set Big O

> On June 10th, 2013, Tumblr user Franklenlobo[34] blogged that his computer’s text-to-speech program pronounced the “( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)” emoticon as “deg deg.” Within the following five weeks, the post accumulated upwards of 112,000 notes.

Quill

The edit command copies from the say command, but you're only really creating a mirror object with normal assignment, so you have to copy the object specifically

Set Big O

deg is the degrees symbols.

Quill

I thought I had fixed it, but apparently not

Set Big O

3:25 AM

flagged as inappropriate for minors

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

@SetBigO you can provide a reason for flagging in chat?

Quill

Should be fixed @WᴏᴛADᴏɴɢ

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

ok

Set Big O

Most people can't.

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

I'll reinstall again

Anonymous

3:32 AM

meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/revisions/294/2

Anonymous

@WᴏᴛADᴏɴɢ No, you really didn't have to. Please don't use edits to deface posts.

4

Set Big O

Why would either juice have seeds anyway? o_O

Anonymous

Now how does one flag an account for an offensive username?

Set Big O

I think you just flag a comment or post and use the custom field. Is Set Big O really that bad?

Anonymous

@SetBigO The worst

Alex A.

3:36 AM

You could informally tell a moderator, for example in chat, or you could flag one of the user's posts and enter a custom message.

Barbecued rice

Doorknob

@AlexA. FLAGGED AS DELICIOUS

Set Big O

Ok, so how do I flag a mod for naming foods without distributing them? :P

Anonymous

Hey @AlexA. did you notice that @WᴏᴛADᴏɴɢ's username is offensive?

Quill

@Doorknob still flagged

Set Big O

@Mego That one's kinda my fault, but I honestly didn't think he'd use it >_>

Anonymous

3:38 AM

@Doorknob Why on earth would a mod flag something? Seems like you would just take care of it without the flag :P

Alex A.

@Mego I noticed it was amusing. I don't think it's really offensive. I mean, there are people named Dong. (Maybe...)

xnor

I object to anagrams being used as an excuse for poor spelling

2

Quill

@Mego because there's some things that moderators can't do

Anonymous

@AlexA. When translated from British/American slang into English, it's literally "what a penis"

Doorknob

was yolk

Quill

3:38 AM

Like operate without sucking the fun out of you

Alex A.

"Dong" isn't slang, it's a way of life

Set Big O

@xnor No Rx?

xnor

@SetBigO that's ... better than i thought could be possible

i am a also fan of the nethack/d&d monster "xorn"

Anonymous

@AlexA. I corrected myself

Alex A.

O Set Big is a good anagrammer

Doorknob

3:39 AM

@xnor xorns are pretty awesome

xnor

that phasing

Alex A.

@Mego Me too

Anonymous

@SetBigO There's a significant difference between pointing out an anagram that's offensive and actually changing your username to it

Set Big O

@Mego Yea... I'm torn on whether I should actually use either bigot.se or e-bigots :/

Alex A.

strawpoll.me/6979488

@SetBigO The first for sure

Doorknob

3:41 AM

I don't think it's really offensive so much as

53 mins ago, by Quill

no, cause that makes you sound like an idiot

Alex A.

hahahaha

@WᴏᴛADᴏɴɢ The people have spoken. If you wouldn't mind, please remove "dong" from your username.

Set Big O

And the small caps, while you're at it :P

Alex A.

^ pls

@Doorknob That really sounds like some kind of cyber pornography .-.

Doorknob

could you please just be Vihan again >_>

(only half joking)

Quill

NotADowg

Alex A.

3:43 AM

ONotDawg

DoontWag

Anonymous

The anagrammed names are just like the small-caps/unicode-lookalike names - it's a bunch of people trying to be unique by all doing the same thing

3

Aqua Tart

I kinda wish he would just be Vihan again too. It's a cool name.

^

"two gonad" heh

no pressure

3:44 AM

NOT THAT I'M ENCOURAGING IT

Alex A.

@xnor ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Set Big O

@Mego But I was the first one here to do it :(

Alex A.

@xnor I'm pretty sure you're encouraging it

Anonymous

@SetBigO It was original the first time. The rest are just copying you.

Alex A.

@SetBigO You should be flattered that so many people followed in your footsteps. You're a trendsetter.

Set Big O

3:45 AM

Hipster level +1

xnor

yeah, i think this anagramming name-changing thing has rather worn out

Quill

If you all want to do the same thing, you could just number yourselves and prefix it with sheep

Alex A.

hahaha

Just use our SE usernames but replace "user" with "sheep"

sheep20469

Quill

Prettier than this smallcaps, anagram, impersonation shit

Doorknob

sheep3808

@xnor I think that happened months ago

Alex A.

3:46 AM

@Quill Damn son, you salty huh

Anonymous

Newsflash: the new cool thing is to never have changed your username

xnor

hey, you know what's the cool new thing?

golfing code

Alex A.

Ah crap. I changed mine a long time ago from Alex to Alex A.

Anonymous

Nah that's so last year

Anonymous

Programming puzzles is the new thing this year

Set Big O

3:47 AM

@Mego Yes. We want PicklishDoorknob back!

Quill

Alex A.

@xnor I would argue that it's never been cool and this site is just a support group for the people who think it is.

Doorknob

@AlexA. unless you're user12345, you have changed your username :P

even jimmy

Anonymous

@Doorknob Picking a username for the first time != changing your username

Set Big O

Meh, setting it on signup doesn't count as "changing" imo.

Alex A.

3:48 AM

@Doorknob I was never user20469 on this site though. I changed my name when I first made my SO account, long before I came here.

Doorknob

oh, right

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

> being banned from usernames

how is one banned from uesrnames

Anonymous

@AlexA. Also a good point

Doorknob

@WᴏᴛADᴏɴɢ by moderators removing it

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

oh

okay

Anonymous

3:49 AM

If you go by the userXXXXX counting as an original username, I've only ever changed my username on SO

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

I'll change it...

Alex A.

I did change from Alex to Alex A. though. I noticed another guy named Alex who made ASCII guns and stuff in his submissions. So I added an A.

Anonymous

That's a valid reason

Doorknob

> ASCII guns and stuff

wait what

Anonymous

Distinguishing yourself from someone so obviously edgy and cool

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

3:49 AM

Should I be Wag Do Not or Do Not Wag?

no

guns and donges

or a A Dog Town

no

Anonymous

How about just Vihan?

Alex A.

3:50 AM

@WᴏᴛADᴏɴɢ Vihan is a cool name (I legitimately think that)

Optimizer

Alexa is also a cool name

Alex A.

I'm hella jellzors because Alex is boring a fvk

Optimizer

...for a girl

Anonymous

strawpoll.me/6979551

Alex A.

Good thing my name isn't Alexa then :P

Optimizer

3:51 AM

@AlexA.

Set Big O

Well at least we have arbiters of what constitutes a "valid" reason for a name change. Is this really even worth the discussion?

Doorknob

no just don't do it

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

I'm not changing my avatar though. That took way to long to make

Doorknob

mumbles something about sunk cost fallacy

Anonymous

@WᴏᴛADᴏɴɢ Your avatar which is a rip-off of Beta Decay's original avatar, with a simple mask applied to it?

Alex A.

3:51 AM

@WᴏᴛADᴏɴɢ Personally I'm a fan of the avatar. It's bizarre but unique.

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

> Display name may only be changed once every 30 days; you may change again on Apr 2 at 1:15

Alex A.

@Mego Beta Decay?

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

can a mod change my username?

Anonymous

Err Digital Trauma

Alex A.

@WᴏᴛADᴏɴɢ Sure

Anonymous

3:52 AM

Wrong one

Alex A.

@WᴏᴛADᴏɴɢ What do you want it to be?

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

@AlexA. Vihan I guess

Optimizer

an avocad

Alex A.

@WᴏᴛADᴏɴɢ xD0SAL0VRx69x?

Doorknob

do it

:P

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

3:53 AM

@AlexA. ಠ_ಠ

Alex A.

@WᴏᴛADᴏɴɢ <3

User profile on Russian.SE? o_O

Wᴏᴛ A Dᴏɴɢ

oh wait

Alex A.

You're still Downgoat on PPCG. You can just change your parent profile.

Vihan

okay, I think my username changed

yup

Alex A.

+1

Aqua Tart

3:55 AM

yay

Alex A.

You next, @AquaTart.

;)

Gob Ties

Awww, I like Aqua Tart tbh.

Vihan

what is an Aqua Tart?

Alex A.

> Gob Ties

ಠ_ಠ

Doorknob

GEOBITS PLZ

Zach Gates

3:56 AM

@mbomb007 repl.it/BsOL/1

Alex A.

@ZachGates I wonder if that "Zach Gates" guy will know what you're talking about. :P

Aqua Tart

@Vihan a breakfast pastry for superheroes

Gob Ties

For terrible superheroes?

Zach Gates

@AlexA. :P that crazy SOB

Vihan

@AquaTart s/superheros/fishes/

Zgarb

3:59 AM

@AlexA. Vihan is Finnish for "of hatred".

Vihan

._.

Gob Ties

That explains the -1 I guess.

Vihan

Google Translate tells me it means "Grapes of Wrath"

brb, changing my username to Grapes of Wrath

Doorknob

NO

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