The Nineteenth Byte

Calvin's Hobbies

2:01 AM

So it has a big dict of words?

Doorknob

yes

Lynn

Yeah, and a very fancy system for accessing them. Although the dictionary doesn’t look very “cleaned up”. :<

Calvin's Hobbies

I see

Sp3000

I still maintain the dictionary would do better with some sorting by word commonality :P

Calvin's Hobbies

"fudgy not found" <- major flaw right there

VoteToClose

2:05 AM

Meanwhile, in ssh dh parameter setup land, VTC is struggling to let the certificate just be made. o-o

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

oeis.org/…

El'endia Starman

My Minkolang answer went from 26 bytes to 15 by using Dennis' algorithm. That's crazy.

3

Eridan

Dennis is so good at golfing his answers that he golfs your answers too

11

The dictionary for Jelly is missing the word aardvark. Is it not a complete dictionary?

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Up goat or Down goat? test-battery code-challenge Given an image of a goat, your program should best try to identify whether the goat is upside down, or not. Examples These are examples of what the input may be. Not actual inputs Input: Output: Down goat Spec Your Program should be under...

Alex A.

@NewSandboxedPosts ._.

Doorknob

2:16 AM

ಠ_ಠ

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

IIRC I was the first one to implement a dictionary in a FREAKING GOLFING LANGUAGE programming language, but that project sat under a pile of dust

Eridan

Did it contain the word aardvark?

Calvin's Hobbies

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ You were the first one to ever make a list of common words accessible in a programming language?

idk, I bet apl has an English-dictionary import or something

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Eridan I think so

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies APL has very few built-in features

Calvin's Hobbies

2:22 AM

@Doorknob _ಠ_

Eridan

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Then you've beaten Dennis in getting that word in your dictionary. Good job. You beat Dennis in something that he can't get ahead of you in.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

\o/

conorobrien-foxx.github.io/Cha-ne/?code%3D%3A%25%3A||input%3D

Eridan

I'm proud

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

<3 thanks

Calvin's Hobbies

@Doorknob Where has @ಠ_ಠ been lately?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

2:24 AM

It's not like Dennis will build a time machine and beat me too it. For that, he'd have to erase the evidenc--

goes silent

Calvin's Hobbies

he's a mod, he can do things

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies Why do you assume Doorknob would know that?

Eridan

I have made a bit of a mistake

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

How do you add an image to a Gist

Eridan

Dennis's dictionary, sadly, does in fact contain aardvark. I was looking in the "short words" part of the dictionary

Alex A.

2:26 AM

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ Same way you'd add an image to any markdown file

Eridan

ಠ,ಠ

ಠ,ಠ looks like an owl, doesn't it?

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@AlexA. I meant how would I upload it

Alex A.

Oh. You'd need an image URL...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Imgur

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

Ohhhh of course. imgur

Calvin's Hobbies

2:27 AM

@AlexA. Doorknob lives here

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies Here being Texas?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ ninaj

I'm listening to a song whose lyrics sound like "goat stabbing" O_O

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ s/aj/ja/

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ Ninaj'd.

Maltysen

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ you can make albums in imgur

Doorknob

2:28 AM

You can also just put the image in the Gist

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. "The Nineteenth Byte" is actually a town in Texas

Doorknob

Gists can be multiple files

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Maltysen Do I need an imgur account for that? I don't want to make an imgur account

Doorknob

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ no

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Doorknob But how would I upload an image?

Doorknob

2:29 AM

By putting the image in the Gist?

git clone http://gist.github.com/foo && cd foo && cp ~/foo.png . && git commit -am 'image' && git push

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Doorknob I would need to make a markdown file and put the image into the markdown file right?

Doorknob

no

just... put the file in the Gist

Maltysen

the web ui lets you drag & drops files also IIRC

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

24 hours ago, by Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

2 days ago, by Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

Jan 28 at 5:30, by Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

I suck at git

@Maltysen oh ok

Calvin's Hobbies

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ imgur lets anyone upload images easily at any time (but it may reduce quality)

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

2:31 AM

drag & dropping Images doesn't work :(

Maltysen

just use git then

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

1 min ago, by Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

24 hours ago, by Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

2 days ago, by Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

Jan 28 at 5:30, by Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

I suck at git

Doorknob

learn git then?

Maltysen

^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

As we speak, I am implementing a dictionary in jolf

.-.

Maltysen

2:33 AM

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ i think I had an answer written to that one challenge that got deleted from the sandbox about batch uploading gists

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Doorknob I know git commit and git add and git push and git pull but why learn git when I can upload it to imgur :P

Doorknob

because you keep complaining about not knowing git

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ I don't know that much... XD

Calvin's Hobbies

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ Just use imgur then if the image is not super important. I literally just uploaded this

Maltysen

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ its in Pyth though

.x&K.d,,"description"k,"files".dm,d.d],"content"jb'd.z@c`h.w$__import__('json').dumps(K)$ "https://api.github.com/gists"N27"gist: unable to gist =("

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

2:34 AM

@Maltysen I don't really know Pyth either ._.

Maltysen

no I already wrote it

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

oh

okay

Maltysen

I forgot how it takes input though

it was in some weird way because the challenge was stupid

oh it takes input as a filename containing all the files

newline separated

-1

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

GitHub Gist command-line client Create a command-line tool that publishes a list of files as one public GitHub Gist. Specification The following bullet points describe the behavior of the program. If a bullet point has "must", you must implement that point. If a bullet point has "can optionall...

Alex A.

strawpoll.me/6738847

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Maltysen "a filename containing all the files" whaa?

Lynn

2:37 AM

That Jelly tutorial I’m writing just got super official

Doorknob

@AlexA. what in the holy name of zarquon is bazaar

Maltysen

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ read the sandbox post

Alex A.

GNU Bazaar

GNU Bazaar (formerly Bazaar-NG, command line tool bzr) is a distributed revision control system sponsored by Canonical. Bazaar can be used by a single developer working on multiple branches of local content, or by teams collaborating across a network. Bazaar is written in the Python programming language, with packages for major GNU/Linux distributions, Mac OS X and Microsoft Windows. Bazaar is free software and part of the GNU Project. == Features == Bazaar commands are quite similar to those found in CVS or Subversion. A new project can be started and maintained without a remote repository server...

Lynn

My favorite VCS is Copy (2) of main.c

Alex A.

ಠ_ಠ

Doorknob

2:38 AM

@AlexA. does anyone ever use that

Alex A.

@Doorknob I've heard of it so I included it but probably not

I know @quartata voted because there's one stray vote for SVN.

quartata

Why would you assume that

Alex A.

Because you're the only person I've ever talked to who actually likes Subversion

Lynn

I think exactly zero of the people here have used all of these things, so how can you fairly vote

Doorknob

I have used Git and Mercurial

Alex A.

2:41 AM

Whatever you like to use

I've used Git and Subversion

quartata

I've used them all except bazaar

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

I've used half of Git

Lynn

I’m this kind of Git user:

If that doesn't fix it, git.txt contains the phone number of a friend of mine who understands git. Just wait through a few minutes of 'It's really pretty simple, just think of branches as...' and eventually you'll learn the commands that will fix everything.

Geobits

What, no CVS?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Does anyone know if JS arrays have a maximum index beyond which indexOf will not check for values?

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

2:44 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ 9007199254740991

I think

Doorknob

-1

A: Solve Einstein's riddle

the brit keeps the fish as a pet becaus it doesn't minchen him

what

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

XD

quartata

The Brit doesn't even keep the fish

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ Weird. I have a list of 773910 members and it doesn't work

quartata

Also

> minchen

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

2:45 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ What browser?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ Firefox

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

what's l

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

The length of the array

Geobits

Magos?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

oh wait

Lynn

2:46 AM

"Mangos?" != "Magos?"

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Carry on, I'm an idiot.

Geobits

:D

Lynn

Don’t worry, I’ve eternalized your shame. ^

2

Geobits

I did it first ;)

Alex A.

@Lynn That's basically the motto of The Nineteenth Byte

Maltysen

2:46 AM

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ use this version:

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Still doesn't work with some members D:

Maltysen

x&K.d,,"description"k,"files".dm,d.d],"content"jb'dQ@c`h.w$__import__('json').dumps(K)$ "https://api.github.com/gists"N27"gist: unable to gist =("

this takes input like ["file1", "file2"]

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Maltysen okay I'll try it out

Am I inputting correctly?

./pyth.py temp/gist '["/Users/vihan/Downloads/050234_Hausziege_04.jpg",     "/Users/vihan/Downloads/Hausziege_04.jpg"]'

Maltysen

no

./pyth.py temp/gist

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

nvm I got it to input correctly

Now it says: ImportError: No module named 'PIL'

Maltysen

2:50 AM

["akjd", "asd"]

apt-get install python-pil

or open up pyth.py and remove the import PIL line

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

I'm on mac so there's no apt-get

Maltysen

oh shoot my thing doesn't work

for images

Alex A.

pip install pil?

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@AlexA. tried that. Doesn't work

Alex A.

What's it say?

Maltysen

2:52 AM

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ pip install pillow

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

The directory '/Users/vihan/Library/Caches/pip/http' or its parent directory is not owned by the current user and the cache has been disabled. Please check the permissions and owner of that directory. If executing pip with sudo, you may want sudo's -H flag.
The directory '/Users/vihan/Library/Caches/pip' or its parent directory is not owned by the current user and caching wheels has been disabled. check the permissions and owner of that directory. If executing pip with sudo, you may want sudo's -H flag.

Alex A.

@Maltysen That's Python 3

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Maltysen that worked \o/

Alex A.

Oh, maybe pip install PIL

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I am such a bleeding idiot

Maltysen

2:53 AM

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ but it doesn't upload images properly…

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Maltysen D:

Alex A.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ You should get a bandage to stop the bleeding

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. I think I'll let it bleed.

Alex A.

ok

Maltysen

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ but its easily fixable

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

2:55 AM

I'm gonna bleeeeeed it out, if its the last thing that I do is taaaaaaaake you down

@Maltysen \o/

nvm

D:

just use git

@Maltysen sigh ok

how do I do that?

Dennis

3:00 AM

@ThomasKwa I've added an explanation.

Lynn

2D pattern matching/manipulation is so powerful.

Looking at codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/71241/3852

More golfy languages should have it!

I was gonna add a bunch to gs2, but I don’t really like gs2 anymore.

Dennis

@Sp3000 That's definitely true. The problem is that I don't know how to calculate the commonality. All lists I can find online are dubious, pay-to-use or outdated.

Lynn

And, of course, it requires lots of thought

Maltysen

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ k i'll walk you through this

first make a gist with a placeholder file

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

oh

I thought you meant to make a repo

Lynn

3:03 AM

Not sure if it helps, but I keep using lemma.num for little experiments

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

So I looked up goat pictures for the Downgoat Upgoat challenge and I found this:

> Amazon Japan Doubles Its Goat Force

Lynn

kilgarriff.co.uk/bnc-readme.html

Maltysen

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ u made one?

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

github.com/vihanb/UpgoatDowngoat

Maltysen

thats a full git thing...

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

3:06 AM

I don't know any other way ¯_(ツ)_¯

Maltysen

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ I was gonna show you how

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Maltysen oh okay

gist.github.com/vihanb/3fb94bfaa7364ccdd8e2

Maltysen

kay, go git clone <the url you have up there>

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Maltysen ok, done

Maltysen

remove the dummy file

and copy ur goat pics in

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

3:09 AM

\o/

then git push?

Maltysen

not yet

you have to put them in the staging area

with git add -A

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

okay, I think I got it

Maltysen

now commit

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

> We couldn’t find any files to show.

Is it because I made a folder?

Alex A.

You can git list to see what's staged

Maltysen

3:10 AM

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ prolly

Alex A.

git add . should add everything

Maltysen

@AlexA. no

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@AlexA. I use git commit -a

Maltysen

it doesn't add deletions

Alex A.

o

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

3:11 AM

How do I remove a folder without deleting all of it's contents?

Maltysen

its prolly the folder thing

cp -R foldername/* .

then rm -R folder

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Maltysen cool thanks

Also, how do I rename all files in a folder to start with something like upgoat?

Sp3000

@Dennis Some of the word lists spawned for Up Goer Five/simplewriter/etc should be a start. Also, given the context, units like "Celcius" should probably be up there too

Not great suggestions, but I don't know of any complete English language rankings myself

Maltysen

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ what are they named now?

for x in *.png;do mv $x upgoat$x;done

prepends upgoat to the filenames

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

Domestic_goat_kid_in_capeweed.jpg
Grt-JF10-goats-kid-i.jpg
goat_1.jpg
Goat.jpg.1
Hausziege_04.jpg
GoatGenemaster2.jpg
goat.jpg

Sp3000

3:17 AM

@Lynn I've been saying this for a while now, but soon specialised languages will take over. Soon...

Maltysen

do you have rename command @Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Maltysen yeah

Maltysen

it allows regexp renaming

Sp3000

Oh, do(w)ng(oat)... so that's what you guys were on about all this time

Maltysen

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ what do you want the names to be?

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

3:23 AM

@Maltysen preferably something like upgoat1.jpg upgoat2.jpg

Maltysen

a=1

for x in *.png;do mv $x upgoat$a.png;let a=a+1;done

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ ^

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Maltysen awesome! thanks a ton!

Maltysen

oh are these all the upfacing ones?

Dennis

@Sp3000 Me neither. That's pretty much why I haven't done it yet. These lists would need a lot of extra words for our purposes, like fizz, buzz, etc.

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Maltysen yup. I'll do the downfacing ones now

Maltysen

3:29 AM

that first upgoat is kinda grainy

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Maltysen yeah. I guess I'll remove it. Now to flip the goats...

Maltysen

are you gonna use the same images, but flipped?

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Maltysen yeah. probably.

I might have a few unique ones

How would I match all the files that begin with downgoat?

Maltysen

downgoat*.png

Nathan Merrill

^downgoat.*

with regex

Maltysen

3:33 AM

bash don't need no .'s

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Maltysen sweet, thanks

Nathan Merrill

I am not a basher

Dennis

@AlexA. Rather disappointingly, n->(+,~)[n%2+1](n^2)÷2+2 saves exactly 0 bytes.

(stupid 1-based indexing)

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

Done!

Alex A.

@Dennis Neat solution though!

Nathan Merrill

3:43 AM

(removed)

Sp3000

Is my last message greyed out or is it just (removed)? If it's just black, then silly mobile

Alex A.

It's gray on desktop

Sp3000

Hmm weird, it's black on mobile?

Alex A.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm not on mobile

Dennis

@Eridan jelly.tryitonline.net/#code=4oCcJMK7&input=

Eridan

3:51 AM

Yeah, sorry about that Dennis. I was looking at the wrong dictionary

in PPCG Minecraft Server, 1 min ago, by El'endia Starman

...you can't find the honking big black thing?

El'endia Starman

-_-

Alex A.

Honking?

El'endia Starman

TALKING ABOUT A NETHER FORTRESS.

Alex A.

Is it a horn?

Eridan

If an aardvark is large, black, and honking, I could not find it

Alex A.

3:54 AM

@El'endiaStarman ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) nethers

El'endia Starman

-_________-

Eridan

in PPCG Minecraft Server, 4 mins ago, by El'endia Starman

So glad I didn't say that in the Nineteenth Byte.

I see why

ӍѲꝆΛҐӍΛПҒЦꝆ

Hey guys

Alex A.

o/

@El'endiaStarman <3

ӍѲꝆΛҐӍΛПҒЦꝆ

@Dennis Just wondering, is it possible to have 256 1-byte chars and have the rest be 1.25 bytes?

El'endia Starman

3:59 AM

The main difficulty is knowing when to read the next 8 bits or the next 10.

ӍѲꝆΛҐӍΛПҒЦꝆ

@El'endiaStarman So it is possible, albeit much harder.

El'endia Starman

In a sense, yes.

Dennis

No, it isn't possible.

ӍѲꝆΛҐӍΛПҒЦꝆ

Oh okay.

Dennis

If you have 256 different 1-byte chars, that's literally all the information you can encode in 1 byte.

El'endia Starman

4:00 AM

What you can do is have 128 1-byte chars and have the rest be 1.25 bytes.

ӍѲꝆΛҐӍΛПҒЦꝆ

@El'endiaStarman Hmm, that's pretty good too.

El'endia Starman

That'd give you 512 more chars.

Dennis

For a total of 640. That's not enough IIRC.

El'endia Starman

Reasoning: if the next bit is 0, read the next 7 bits. Otherwise, read the next 9 bits.

ӍѲꝆΛҐӍΛПҒЦꝆ

@Dennis Yeah.

El'endia Starman

4:02 AM

128 1-byte chars and 1024 1.375-byte chars might do though.

feersum

Does anyone have Visual Studio and Python 2 and is willing to do an experiment?

I'm having a ridiculous bug.

Dennis

@ӍѲꝆΛҐӍΛПҒЦꝆ The primary disadvantage of that is that you (as it is now) could find a solution with a better score by adding characters. Having a fixed bit count for each would make things easier.

feersum

I have a Python program that prints some numbers.

When I pipe into a cat program written in C++, some of the newlines are dropped.

Dennis

o_O

feersum

If I print 50000 lines, I get like 49980 lines with a few pairs smashed together.

ӍѲꝆΛҐӍΛПҒЦꝆ

4:05 AM

@Dennis Oic.

Man I've learned so much!

Dennis

@feersum Does it have to be VS? I have Python and g++.

feersum

The bug doesn't occur when I compile it with g++.

I mean, you could try it if you really want to, but it probably won't be that interesting.

Alex A.

I think I have Visual Studio on my Windows virtual machine but I don't think I have Python 2 on it.

Nathan Merrill

log a bug with the compiler!

mınxomaτ

@feersum I have python 2 and IntelC++ if that helps ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Alex A.

4:07 AM

Booting up my Windows VM now to try it out

@feersum Want to send me some code?

Dennis

@mınxomaτ I think VS uses icc, so that might actually help.

mınxomaτ

@Dennis haha,, no

feersum

Oh the bug is diefinitely not in Python.

I tried piping the input from type instead.

And it still happened.

Ok guys

Dennis

@feersum I can try at least. Maybe find the bug if I'm lucky.

Nathan Merrill

@feersum have you tried counting the characters?

feersum

4:09 AM

the C++ code is:

mınxomaτ

@Dennis VS uses MSVC as the compiler. ICC is an expensive standalone compiler that also offers a VS plugin (but you'd need both).

feersum

#include <cstdio>

int main()
{
    int c;
    while (~(c = getchar()))
        putchar(c);
    return 0;
}

Nathan Merrill

aka, are the only lost characters newlines?

feersum

The input generator in Python is:

import random
random.seed(123354)
n=50000

s = range(n)
random.shuffle(s)
for i in s:
    j = i+1
    print i, i, j, j

@NathanMerrill yes

@NathanMerrill Actually, I didn't really check.

There could be some lost digits too

Alex A.

How were you piping it?

Dennis

4:11 AM

@mınxomaτ Ah, OK. It's free of charge for Linux.

El'endia Starman

^ catacombs of Odessa

feersum

Either python thing.py | cat.exe or python thing.py > spam.txt; type spam.txt | cat.exe both produced the bug.

orlp

2

Q: Implement almost-equals for IEEE numbers

Isn't it annoying when you're working with floating point numbers and your code doesn't work because two numbers are not equal by the least significant bit? Now you can fix that! Write some code that takes two floating point numbers in any IEEE 754 binary format and returns TRUE if: the two nu...

am I the only one that finds this challenge underspecified and arbitrary?

feersum

But it doesn't happen if I do cat.exe < spam.txt

Alex A.

@feersum Okay, quick question: how do I compile with the Visual Studio compiler from the command line?

feersum

4:13 AM

@AlexA. um first you have to run some batch file called vcvarsall or something

Then you do cl <file>

mınxomaτ

@Dennis Not, it's not. The current compiler suite for linux (only C++) costs $699+.

Alex A.

@feersum Couldn't find that on the command line so I'm just starting a Visual Studio project with the file. It'll be a while before VS starts up. ._.

Dennis

@mınxomaτ It's free for non-commercial use. If you have a GitHub project, you already qualify. software.intel.com/en-us/qualify-for-free-software/…

I previously used icc on Linux, until I realized that gcc is actually so much better. (On Linux, that is. icc kicks gcc's butt on Windows.)

Doorknob

How does clang compare?

(in your opinion)

Dennis

I never used clang.

Doorknob

4:19 AM

Oh, okay

Alex A.

I love clang. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Q: Would language restrictions for fastest-code problems be ok?

In my last meta post, I asked about why we need objective winning criterion. Martin made a really good point that we need objective scoring to motivate users to improve their code. That said, the argument is a bit weak when it comes to fastest-code challenges. Because answers have to be run on...

discussion

Dennis

The only compilers I've ever used were tcc, icc and gcc.

It can't get a lot worse than tcc...

mınxomaτ

@Dennis That depends on the workload. If it is highly parallel, icc will beat gcc on IA64 on linux and windows. But that's a very specific application (which is what icc was made for)

clang ... doesn't it power Emscripten?

If so, I used it.

grc

@feersum is the problem with windows newlines (e.g. something like this)?

feersum

4:24 AM

@grc I'm putting CRLF in and getting neither CR nor LF out.

grc

did you work out if it was just newlines missing?

feersum

@grc I just wrote a program to check and it is only newlines.

grc

that's weird

Dennis

Did you compare the byte count? Does it print anything instead of the newlines?

feersum

It looks like this when a newline is dropped:

18052 18052 18053 1805322769 22769 22770 22770

Alex A.

4:34 AM

@feersum So I guess my Visual Studio license expired. :/

Sorry I won't be able to test it on VS for you

feersum

I'm using the free version

grc

just started my laptop's vm up and it seems to have visual studio

Dennis

No unprintable between 18053 and 22769?

feersum

No.

The output is identical to the input except 10-20 CRLF pairs are removed.

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4:49 AM

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Q: Print a message if the programmer forgets to use an `else`

Write some code, that when executed changes your language by forcing all subsequent if statements to have an accompanying bare else statement (i.e. not just else ifs), otherwise if no conditions are met, the code prints I found your loophole! to whatever qualifies as stdout in your language. else...

underhanded

grc

@feersum how do you count lines on windows?

feersum

@grc I counted the lines by opening it in a text editor.

grc

I have 11 lines missing newlines o.O

feersum

yay!

What versions of Windows/VS do you have?

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Eat the Chocolate Bar code-golf I have a chocolate bar and I need help eating it so you'll be writing a program just to do that. Explanation First number is size, second is pieces eaten. These can be taken in any order. 8 1 ____ __|__| |__|__| |__|__| |__|__| 8 2 _______ |__|__| |__|__|...

grc

4:59 AM

@feersum visual studio community 2015 (version 14.0. ...)

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