The Nineteenth Byte

I understand if the shipping part takes longer than expected, since there isn't much they can do once it's sent. But what takes so long to get it shipped in the first place?

RikerW

^

Ampora

3:30 AM

Idk

I don't really remember, I got the Minx right when it came out.

Geobits

It's too bad there's no such thing as a real life store that sells this stuff :(

I went to seven different toy/game/puzzle shops the other day looking for something non-Rubik's brand.

Ampora

I got a Rubik's 4x4 from the MIT bookstore once. There was a 5x5 there too. That and standard 3x3s are all I've ever seen in stores.

Geobits

It would be nice to get the one I ordered. The one I have on hand feels like someone filled it with peanut butter and pebbles.

Ampora

What brand do you have?

Calvin's Hobbies

I found a 6x6 V cube at a specialty game store, but I'm sure online is best bet for anything non-Rubik's

Geobits

3:35 AM

It's a regular Rubik's.

Ampora

Yeah, the 4x4 Rubik's cube corner cuts like a tractor-trailer

I use a Shengshou

orlp

wtf

~/golf/imgcompress/corpus/small/ λ du -h ZqhpOfp.png
424K    ZqhpOfp.png
~/golf/imgcompress/corpus/small/ λ du -b ZqhpOfp.png
431076  ZqhpOfp.png

how does 431076 bytes = 424K?

Geobits

Yea, I'm just learning and wanted to get something better than this one, so I wasn't too picky and chose a cheap one with good reviews.

orlp

431076 / 1024 = 421

Calvin's Hobbies

@Geobits Just become friends with Oskar VanDeventer

orlp

3:38 AM

ah

--apparent-size

@Calvin'sHobbies haha

Geobits

@Calvin'sHobbies That guy is both insane and brilliant :D

orlp

he's a classic

Ampora

Love his stuff

Geobits

From his website FAQ:

> Q: Have you ever touched a female that wasn't related to you?
> A: Yes, but please do not tell my wife.

3

Ampora

He was the guy with the 9 inch bolt, right?

Anonymous

3:41 AM

I have no idea what we're talking about

Geobits

No, you're thinking of nails. His bolt was eight inches IIRC.

Anonymous

But ಠ_ಠ seems appropriate

Calvin's Hobbies

I'd like to think he has a PPCG account. Seems right up his alley

orlp

@Calvin'sHobbies assuming he programs

Doorknob

@quintopia, @Sherlock9, @mınxomaτ, @GamrCorps, @RikerW, @AlexA., @Roujo: Highest demand for Discord meetup start times seems to be 2-4 AM (that range contains everyone, and 3 AM is the one with the most people). Any objections to starting the chat event somewhere in that range?

Ampora

3:49 AM

I'd be surprised if he didn't.

Doorknob

Also, input from @PhiNotPi would be appreciated

RikerW

Me neither

Roujo

@Doorknob No objection, although as I've said I probably won't be on most nights =)

El'endia Starman

[views history] ah-ha. haha. I do.

Doorknob

@El'endiaStarman MOD ABUSE!!!1!!one!

El'endia Starman

3:51 AM

:P

RikerW

^^

Ampora

@Doorknob Everyone can see the history

Doorknob

@Ampora Not of deleted messages.

Ampora

oh nm

RikerW

*nvm

^

Calvin's Hobbies

3:53 AM

n^m?

RikerW

discordapp.com/channels/133419285409169408/133419285409169408

Context: ^

But from the voice chat, not the text.

quartata

@Doorknob 3 AM? Don't you people ever sleep?

Roujo

Well yes, but I live in EST =P

Doorknob

@quartata UTC time

quartata

oh

Anonymous

4:01 AM

@quartata Why sleep when you can golf?

Geobits

Better yet, why golf when you can sleep?

Doorknob

@Doorknob (If nobody disagrees, 2:00-2:30 UTC seems like the best time to schedule the chat event.)

quartata

Dennis would tell you that a good night's sleep and a healthy breakfast are critical for maintaining your golfing skills

Calvin's Hobbies

@quartata Dennis Paulson would

Well this is a weird idea amazon.com/oc/dash-button

Dennis

@quartata You clearly don't know me at oil.

:P

PhiNotPi

4:16 AM

(I was looking at one of your earlier messages which didn't say.)

Calvin's Hobbies

> oil

PhiNotPi

That time range fits me.

Doorknob

@PhiNotPi Okay, great!

quartata

@Dennis I thought you mods were supposed to be good role models

or at least pretend to be

Dennis

Pretending is kinda useless when your posts have time stamps. :P

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

4:29 AM

^ meta design

Anonymous

@quartata No they're good roll models

quartata

I'm guessing that's a rickroll

Thomas Kwa

Anyone have suggestions for additional questions to

0

A: List of bounties with no deadlines

Fitting but Unsuitable Languages: 3 x 500 points There are some challenges for which we all want to see answers in a certain language, even if the solution is very difficult. These three caught my eye, and so I'll award 500 points for an answer in such a language to any. Hexagonal Maze Time! in...

?

I'm willing to put another 1000 or so points up, if it's hard enough.

Anonymous

@ThomasKwa codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/16732/minify-brainfuck in brainfuck

Thomas Kwa

Hmm, that does seem fitting, and unsuitable.

Anonymous

4:43 AM

Really most any brainfuck metagolf challenges in brainfuck

Thomas Kwa

I'll try to find an approach for a few minutes, and if I can't find anything immediately promising I'll add it.

Cyoce

0

A: Fibonacci function or sequence

Detour, 20 bytes This one is going for the "infinite sequence" option. v1vq:$ $+ p,p^ ^ q Try it online! Branch 1 takes a number, prints it, adds it with the number from Branch 2, then puts the result in Branch 2 Branch 2 takes a number, feeds it to the addition with A, then puts the origi...

I know there's a way to make this shorter by shifting the columns around, but I can't wrap my head around how

orlp

5:04 AM

who is the oldest living dead person?

New Main Posts

-1

Q: Nest For Loop pyton puzzle. Crack the loops, respond with the answer!

#Embedded file name: challenge.py import random k = range K = random.randrange F = [' ', ' ', ' ', '_', '_', '_', '_', '_', ' ', '_', '_', '_', '_', '_', '_', ' ', '_', '_', '_', '_', '_', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', '_', '_', ...

CSᵠ

pointers to avoid try/except in python?

Anonymous

@CSᵠ Test for the conditions that would cause the error using the standard conditional formats?

CSᵠ

in codegolf there just are no bytes for that man :)

maybe 'replace try/except' woulda been a better ask

Anonymous

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ Every time you update the GitHub repo it breaks the script :(

Cyoce

5:12 AM

@CSᵠ don't do things that could raise errors

Anonymous

^ 10/10 advice

CSᵠ

@Cyoce i'm actually heavily abusing on that :D

Anonymous

"Bad things happen when I do this!" "Well don't do that!"

CSᵠ

Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless, like water, let the program flow, suppress errors, silence exceptions. Be water my friend.

> - ref

Cyoce

@Mego "I seem to have stepped on a landmine." "Why would you do something like that?"

quintopia

5:24 AM

@CSᵠ use str.find instead of instead of str.index

CSᵠ

was looking about a general solution

it seems i lost it

had one some time ago

of course not for productions

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Mego really? I'll check...

works for me :/

Anonymous

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ You moved the sprites.svg to a subfolder, so the URL didn't work anymore

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Mego Ohhh

I thought I didn't push that commit

I suck at git

Anonymous

Surprise: you did

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

5:34 AM

ok, should be fixed

New Main Posts

0

Q: Easy as ABC Solver

Easy As ABC, also known as "End View", is a puzzle where you are given an empty grid with letters around it; you must partially fill in the grid so that exactly one of each letter is in every row and column; in addition, letters at the end of a row (or column) must be the first letter visible in ...

code-golf puzzle-solver

Alex A.

@JonEricson I'm an outsider to PPCG, so I don't have a substantial investment, but it seems to me that the 10 Q/d threshold that's set for the more SE-traditional Q&A sites is inappropriately high for PPCG. I'm most active to date on Chem.SE; people go there because they don't know things, and there are a lot of things that a lot of people don't know. Here, though, people only post "questions" when they've actively thought up something (hopefully) clever. 10 coding challenges per day is a much higher bar than 10 questions per day. Graduate them, already! — Brian 2 hours ago

I like this guy. :D

Anonymous

While I agree that the 10 Q/d threshold doesn't work for us, I think we still have some issues to iron out before graduation

Alex A.

Oh definitely. I 200% agree with that.

I just like his attitude

Dennis

> 200%

>.<

Alex A.

5:45 AM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hyperbole, dawg

Anonymous

Hyperbole and a half

Anonymous

I think the things I mentioned in my introspection post form a pretty good (dirty) laundry list of things we need to get fixed

Anonymous

The only thing I would possibly add to it is the fact that we can't decide if we want to keep popcons or not

Alex A.

Good popcons draw a lot of attention to the site.

Oh no, someone downvoted my beautiful flower of a meta answer.

Anonymous

wat

Alex A.

5:59 AM

#cryingmyselftosleep

Dennis

5

Alex A.

Dog and math? Oh Dennis, you know just how to cheer me up. <3<3<3

Oh wait.

Hyperbola and a dog.

ಠ_ಠ

</3

Dennis

:D

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

TeaScript 3.1 is out \o/

Dennis

7:01 AM

This is terrifying: fusion.net/story/212802/…

Anonymous

@Dennis TIL Dominos order screens use CP437

Alex A.

@Dennis Clicking this messed up my browser 0/10 would click again

zyabin101

@Mego No, the exact encoding we won't never know. At least Dominos order screens are command line screens.

Alex A.

make order.pizza -onions -bellpeppers

zyabin101

@AlexA. Scan your identity card: _

TanMath

7:15 AM

Hey all!

Alex A.

Hello

zyabin101

@TanMath hi

TanMath

Any organic chemistry people?

zyabin101

@TanMath nope

TanMath

Sad...

I have an organic chemistry challenge idea...

BTW what fun did I miss?

El'endia Starman

7:18 AM

@Dennis ....yeah.

Good thing I'm much more likely to settle arguments than to start (or continue) them. :P

zyabin101

@TanMath chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/240

Anonymous

^ that

Anonymous

Also good luck getting past two-factor authentication on everything I care about

TanMath

@Mego hello!

@Mego is life good?

Anonymous

@zyabin101 ä is the character the order entry program was trying to display. In UTF-8, it's \xc3\xa4, which is ├ñ in CP437 - the text displayed on the screen.

Anonymous

7:25 AM

A simple Google search confirms the kid's last name was Kivimäki

TanMath

@Mego ?

Sherlock9

@Doorknob Not at all. I will need to wake up earlier, but I've needed to do that for weeks now, anyway

TanMath

@Sherlock9 what is this about?

Sherlock9

Discord chat

TanMath

What is that?

zyabin101

7:29 AM

Also, I think I should give you time to access the JavaScript function golf GitHub repo. function golf is a language in very deep development, and is just a renaming of some functions, so contribute!

Quill

0

A: Tips for Golfing in ECMAScript 6

with: You can use the with operator to make an object's properties become the scope, for example: var obj = { x: 5, y: 6, z: 9 }; with(obj){ x += 5; y += 4; z += 1; } Object.keys(obj).forEach(function(key){ console.log(key + ":" + obj[key]); }); The only downside...

Code Review -> Get berated for using deprecated keywords
Code Golf -> Suggest using deprecated keywords

TanMath

Lol

zyabin101

@Quill Is there an alternative to with? with is deprecated, and I still need a golfy alternative.

Quill

I totally can't read, disregard that

Sherlock9

Discord is like Skype, but uses low-latency voice chat instead of video, allows you to play Youtube videos right where the links are posted and in several other ways, is better than Skype

Quill

7:35 AM

Discord is pretty good, supports really large lobbies too

Once, I was in a huge lobby which was having latency issues, and one of the devs joined voice chat to explain it to us

orlp

7:49 AM

wew

I think I'm finally done

with my image compression challenge

New Main Posts

0

Q: Compress an image to a 4 KiB preview

In this challenge you will be creating an image preview compression algorithm. It's goal is to reduce an arbitrary image file to a 4 KiB preview image, that can be used to quickly identify images with very little bandwidth. You must write two programs (or one combined program): a compressor and ...

code-challenge image-processing compression

zyabin101

@NewMainPosts Uhh... resize image to 128x32.

orlp

8:07 AM

@zyabin101 hmm?

zyabin101

@orlp Hmm. But that does not save the size, so make smaller by 8 times.

hmm? ~~orlp

Hmm. But that does not return the correct size if both dimensions of the image are not multiplies of 8, so I don't know.

orlp

I have no clue what you're talking about

Anonymous

8:20 AM

metro.co.uk/2014/12/23/cows-can-talk-to-humans-4998085

Anonymous

Super important news article

Anonymous

sys.stdout.write("Comparing {} to {}... ".format(ref, preview))

Anonymous

What is this even

Anonymous

Why not just print(..., end=None)?

zyabin101

@Mego Because serious developers love writing directly to stdout. :P

Yes, directly to stdout. :P

orlp

8:26 AM

@Mego Python 2/3 compat :)

(in less lines of code)

normally I'd use end=None of course

Anonymous

Fair enough

Anonymous

Though I can't imagine any reasonable situation where one would have access to 3 and not 2

orlp

@Mego it's more of a 'it doesn't matter which one you use'

can't go wrong

Anonymous

Hence the "fair enough" :)

Anonymous

I need to sleep before I try to take on that challenge

Anonymous

8:29 AM

But I like it, and I want to attempt it

orlp

it should be more interesting than the last one

which is basically 'find the best codec settings'

which is sort of interesting

Anonymous

I'll write up some Python tomorrow that will probably land me solidly in the middle of the leaderboard as always :P

orlp

someone downvoted my challenge :(

Quill

have an upvote

zyabin101

@orlp Streamer: not constructive

orlp

8:45 AM

@zyabin101 what?

'streamer'?

what do you mean

zyabin101

@orlp The comment is not constructive, as of @AlexA.'s policy on "someone downvoted my challenge! why the downvotes?" comments.

orlp

@zyabin101 I still don't know why you used the word 'streamer', either way, this is not a comment section, and constructivity is not required here.

Anonymous

8:57 AM

@zyabin101 It's a bit ironic that you're calling out somebody on "unconstructive comments" when your chat messages tend to be the furthest thing from constructive. They are usually littered with Twitch emotes (which don't work here, by the way, for good reason) and worn-out references.

Anonymous

Could you please make an attempt to make more constructive contributions towards the site?