The Nineteenth Byte

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Pietu1998

The last message was posted 19 days ago.

@Pietu1998 Dude, don't even kid about that.

Also

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A: Rolling the Dice

ZeeGolfCode, 3 bytes 01 03 6f ZeeGolfCode is a programming language targeted specifically at code golf. Each instruction in ZeeGolfCode is a three-byte sequence representing the number of the question asked at codegolf.stackechange.com. ZeeGolfCode reads these 3 bytes and then executes the spe...

Nuke this into the ground please

^

I'm still upset I can't delete answers unless they've had a negative score for two days :/

9:26 PM

I voted to delete it

oh wait is that a privilege that comes with 4k?

IMO this is such a great, short, concise answer:

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A: Why I am leaving Code Golf

Just compete with yourself and others using your language. Forget about the rep you earn. I enjoyed answernig a leap-year challenge using z/OS assembler and then seeing exactly how short I could get it. I play CoD online too and my kill/death ratio is always less than 1 - I'm not going to compete...

lol

> I play CoD online too

@Quill-HATMANIAC I haven't seen you here before. Have you migrated over from David's Hat Store?

@BrainSteel Status report on Koch BF? :3

1 hour ago, by Quill - HAT MANIAC

I just thought I'd be a friendly neighbour and spread some christmas friendly-ness :P

@quartata No, I:

Oh you're from Code Review

All I have to say is

1 hour ago, by Doorknob 冰

Hey, Hosch was originally one of ours and then you stole him :P

ಠ_ಠ

o_o a code review person?

hallo.

We hope to steal you from CR. ^_^

9:38 PM

yass

let us steal your soul please

psst unreadable code is best code

Consider the fact that because there are less hats here, it will be easier for you to climb the leaderboard. :P

Yes, that's a very good reason.

(Also, I see you don't have Onion Knight. PPCG seems to have a very high density of Onion Knights.)

@Doorknob冰 This is also true.

( ͡° ͜ʖ °)

9:40 PM

In fact, PPCG has the highest density of Onion Knights.

@Doorknob冰 I needed to learn better programming, and C++/C# aren't brilliant golfing languages.

We have like 4.

I think all the other sites have 1-2.

@Hosch250 Hey, I've seen some C++ code that's pretty damn impressive.

@Hosch250 That doesn't mean you can't golf in them

@quartata That doesn't seem like that much...

@Hosch250 excuses

9:40 PM

@Doorknob冰 Yeah, but they always score the lowest.

@Hosch250 This is not true.

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A: Just repeat yourself

Unary, ~1.86 × 10222 Simple brainfuck -> unary answer. Very sub-optimal ;). The program consists of an even number of 0’s; specifically: 1859184544332157890058930014286871430407663071311497107104094967305277041316183368068453689248902193437218996388375178680482526116349347828767066983174362...

This scores the lowest.

@Quill-HATMANIAC If you knew how bad I was before...

has somebody golfed like a golf (sport) game score parser?

@Hosch250 So?

@quartata Maybe Java does worse.

9:41 PM

No, Unary definitely does the worse.

BrainSteel

@quartata In progress! Not hopeless at all yet. I've had some other things I need to do around the house. Hopefully some version of it will be on Github tonight.

That's 1.86 * 10^222 bytes.

@BrainSteel :D

@Doorknob冰 That wasn't the main reason, I just needed to learn to program better.

@Hosch250 hey man, 12 months ago I didn't even use string.Empty

@Quill-HATMANIAC 12 months ago, I didn't even use a List<T> or classes.

9:42 PM

@Hosch250 WHOA

...

OK

That's a good excuse.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I think you mean ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Luckily, you don't need to know how to program to code-golf.

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yesterday, by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. When making my emote keyboard, the lenny face lost an eyebrow: ( ͡° ͜ʖ °)

That's funny

All you have to do is wait for an easy catalog question, pull a random esolang that does it in one byte out of your ass and rake in the upvotes.

9:44 PM

lol

Lenguage ^_^

meanwhile on Code Review, like 1200 word long review: 2 upvotes

Same thing here.

@quartata It helps, though, to know how to not-brute-force it.

I like the KOTH challenges. They take some thinking.

I was working on one for the traveling dot things, but I didn't get it done in time.

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A: Images with all colors

C# I put a random pixel in the middle, and then start putting random pixels in a neighborhood that most resembles them. Two modes are supported: with minimum selection, only one neighboring pixel is considered at a time; with average selection, all (1..8) are averaged. Minimum selection is somew...

See? C# won something.

Now join the dark side.

9:47 PM

popcon is cheating

I'm bring light to the VBA users just now.

Ping me next time you have a good KOTH going. I might not be able to get anything in depending on what I have on my plate, but at least I can vote.

I've been watching your posts and voting on some, anyway.

I'm famous for my voting skills.

Yes

\o/ third downvote

First you vote

Then you come here forever

mwahaha

@Hosch250 I am in fact developing one. :D

9:50 PM

how do I use tags here

play.starmaninnovations.com/spacewar

@El'endiaStarman \o/

@Quill-HATMANIAC [tag:tag]

tag

Oh yeah, and @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ is working on it too.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ *facepalm* website, and like common kinda ones

@El'endiaStarman ^_^

9:51 PM

Lol I just found this in my code base at work:

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@Quill-HATMANIAC erm overhanded

It was checked in November of 2013

interpolation madness

what kind of tags would I use for this

code-golf

9:55 PM

that it?

flawr

ppcg

I decided to put together another list of increasingly large numbers. I had just made it as far as pi (ie not very far at all) when word crashed on me. :(

@quartata just having an account here steals part of my soul

@Quill-HATMANIAC sure

@Quill-HATMANIAC hahaha

9:55 PM

Markdown revision history parsing is funny ... example

Yasss come to us

@SuperJedi224 'swhat you get for using Word

I suppose I could use notepad to write it in HTML, or github markdown, or whatever

But that would require storing the pictures separately

... it's not like Notepad is any better >_<

@SuperJedi224 you were using word to store code? ಠ_ಠ

9:57 PM

@Doorknob冰 It's much better for most coding purposes

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ No. No I'm not.

phews

flawr

^ I didn't know you can make this a verb.

@SuperJedi224 Okay, well "better than literally the worst thing you could use for code" isn't that much of an accomplishment

you could use sticky notes for code

... what is that

9:58 PM

@flawr You can verb anything. 'Murica.

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

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Complement Cat answer-chaining Objective Write a program that outputs an arbitrary string of text, no more than 64 characters long. Simple enough, right? Well, here's the catch: You may not use any characters that were present in the previous answer's output. That's right, none of them. Thus, ...

on windows, sticky notes...

Never heard of that.

isaacg

I've coded on paper before - it's pretty reasonable

@Quill-HATMANIAC ಠ_ಠ

9:59 PM

@Doorknob冰 I actually use notepad for most of my HTML and Javascript. I prefer eclipse for java though.

Oh god there's a sticky note on my screen now. This is so cool!!!

@Doorknob冰 windows.microsoft.com/en-au/windows-vista/open-sticky-notes

@SuperJedi224 I feel sorry for you

> windows-vista

-_-

I thought the same...

I'm going to use corners of my three monitors that have never been used before! They will be filled with Sticky Notes

10:00 PM

and you can make them different colours!!!

red for javascript, green for css and yellow for html

it's perfect

I actually just replaced the three sticky notes that were stuck to my monitor and digitized them

Whoever brought that up is awesome

I find notepad's actually much more practical for HTML and Javascript and such than many of the other text editor's I've tried.

@Rainbolt wow lol np

@SuperJedi224 I actually find Visual Studio more practical for writing Java in

@Quill-HATMANIAC I use eclipse for Java, as I said about 2 minutes ago

@SuperJedi224 How many other text editors have you tried...?

10:02 PM

If you set up Visual Studio the easy way (i.e., use the defaults) then you can correct your html/javascript and just refresh the page and your changes are there.

I can even debug javascript from Visual Studio if I use IE. Apparently there's a way to make it work for Chrome and Firefox but I never bothered to figure it out

I use a stone tablet for writing in Foo.

@Doorknob冰 I think I tried notepad++ once. Don't remember exactly why I didn't like that. I've been stuck using text edit a few times. That's just lousy. Also JSFiddle.

Also the notepad plugin for nds (worse than text edit but that's to be expected given the platform) and one of the many notepad plugins for google drive (almost as good as notepad except for the annoying quirk that, unless you're using it for a plain text, you have to save the file once before you start typing anything). Probably a couple of others as well.

Hm. Have you intentionally been searching out the worst possible text editors? ;)

No.

OK @Doorknob冰 don't kill me but I have been considering switching away from vim to elvis

mınxomaτ

10:11 PM

@SuperJedi224 For this type of development, Brackets remains the best. (It also uses a separate Chrome context to render a live preview and enables you to host the live preview in the local network).

@quartata What's elvis?

Luckily I probably won't since it doesn't have good Unicode support

@Doorknob冰 Another vi clone

oh

@mınxomaτ Live previews can sometimes cause some problems, especially if your page includes javascript.

mınxomaτ

@SuperJedi224 Yeah, no they don't.

10:13 PM

I said sometimes.

mınxomaτ

Sometimes in some editors I suppose :)

Atom FTW

@Cyoce incorrect ;)

Not even for atomic-code-golf ?

Q: Map string to Hilbert curve

haha

New Main Posts

10:20 PM

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Let's map some strings to 2d space, fractal style. Your task is to compute a Hilbert curve and map a string to it. Task The task is to take the input string, and lay it out along a Hilbert curve big enough to contain it, but no bigger. Any gaps to be padded with whitespace, but padding is not r...

code-golf

Anonymous

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Q: How can I tell if a corpse is safe to eat?

I am a human wizard, and I just killed a monster, leaving a corpse on the ground. How do I tell whether it is safe to eat this corpse? I leave the monster unspecified because I am interested in "how can I figure out whether this is edible," rather than whether any particular monster is edible. L...

nethack

Anonymous

Best question on SE imo

hello all!

Anonymous

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I get the Feeling that your Example Program on that Challenge was somewhat inspired by Chat last Night :P

At the top of page 3, I'm now at sqrt(11).

10:22 PM

@Mego ^_^ It was indeed

what's new?!

Anonymous

Everything

allo!

Anonymous

Nothing

@Mego wait, it isn't december 18 yet!

Anonymous

10:24 PM

@TanMath The day-specific hats are awarded while it is that day in any time zone

@Mego Really? I thought it was UTC

Guess not though.

Anonymous

So this one started getting awarded at noon UTC today, 12 hours early, and will continue to be awarded until noon UTC the day after tomorrow, 12 hours late

A: Why didn't (or did) I or some other user get a hat although the requirements were (or weren't) fulfilled?

hi

Anonymous

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Leeway on date-based hats Unless the requirement mentions a specific timezone, hats that are date-based are often awarded for 14 hours before and 12 hours after the specified date in UTC, to accomodate people everywhere in the world. This means you can earn such a hat even though for you it's no...

Are there any numbers between the 31st harmonic number (about 4.03) and 5 that are worth including on the list?

10:31 PM

@SuperJedi224 mathworld.wolfram.com/FeigenbaumConstant.html

Delta is about ~4.67

@quartata When r=2

Oh wait I see what you mean.

Hmm what else.

@quartata how did you get that hat?

@nicael Of course she is. They are very clear about the pronouns he prefers. — Adam Lear ♦ Dec 14 '14 at 16:58

l"(removed)"4$D$O.

10:36 PM

The first constant is important though.

I think it is worth putting on.

What exactly are you doing this for? :P

Anonymous

@quartata You've now been beaten by yet another pinned message

Anonymous

@TanMath That is the million dollar question on MSE right now

@El'endiaStarman oo wats this?

Him making fun of my stupidity

:P

I know ;P

10:39 PM

:P

Anyway, I really like how I fixed a bug in 19 characters. :P

Ah I thought of something.

sqrt(e^pi)?

Or square root of Gelfond's constant if you like that kinda stuff

That's about ~4.81

> Showing with 1 addition and 1 deletion.

... that's one addition.

@quartata Sure. I'll add that.

Is this just a list of silly numbers for giggles?

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ One line was deleted and one line was added.

10:44 PM

If so I approve

I think git diff is "partitioned" by lines, so to speak.

19 characters were added :P

@El'endiaStarman Correct

It's flawed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Try programming a diff algorithm.

10:45 PM

^

Oh wait. Lemme guess: it's hard.

Whatever. trying it

A: Unfolding the Hexagony source code

well, uhhhh

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Hexagony, 271 bytes I present to you, the first 3% of a Hexagony self-interpreter... |./...\..._..>}{<$}=<;>'<..../;<_'\{*46\..8._~;/;{{;<..|M..'{.>{{=.<.).|.."~....._.>(=</.\=\'$/}{<}.\../>../..._>../_....@/{$|....>...</..~\.>,<$/'";{}({/>-'(<\=&\><${~-"~<$)<....'.>=&'*){=&')&}\'\'2"'23}}_}&<_3.>

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I've been meaning to write one for some time now, in fact, but for stories and the like. I'd have three levels: paragraph, sentence, word.

Can someone else tell me & him this is ridiculous (read the comments, too)

@MartinBüttner To the top with upvotes!

10:46 PM

@MartinBüttner (There are more stars than upvotes e_e)

unfortunately, I missed the HNQ window ;)

@quartata Esentially, but eventually I'm going to get into some really big ones

@MartinBüttner holy smokes

A Hexagony self-interpreter would be so cool

A: Russian Roulette, Revisited

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PlatyPar, 26 bytes 6#?;wT"*click*"O;"*BANG!*" Explanation: 6#?; ## random integer [0,6) w ; ## while stack[-1] T ## stack[-1]-- "*click*"O ## alert "*click*" "*BANG!*" ## alert "*BANG!*...

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ It's a good algorithmic exercise to do it in a way that's not brute force.

Anonymous

10:50 PM

@El'endiaStarman oh, by the way, I sent my programming teacher links to Spacewar! and N-Battleship; he says he wants to use them in class!

@cat o.O!

....well, okay then.

A: How would Facebook Sysadmins prevent the summoning of Cthulhu?

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Last time this happened at my job, we were glad our servers were running Windows 10, which forced a shutdown for mandatory updates...

@Mego HAHA, it's been so long since I used Windows I forgot you need @echo OFF

Like, he's going to use them as programming exercises?

10:51 PM

@El'endiaStarman Yep

Cool! :D

@quartata I don't think that's actually gonna happen ;) ... parsing the input is the easiest part... controlling the IP would maybe also be possible... but the memory layout? I don't think that's gonna happen :D

@El'endiaStarman I know!

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Microsoft: saving the world one shutdown at a time.

Oh, we have a job, now:

@celtschk This sounds like a job for codegolf.SE! — Dan Henderson Dec 13 at 19:35

10:53 PM

The weird sense of duty really good sysadmins have can border on the sociopathic, but it's nice to know that it stands between the forces of darkness and your cat blog's servers.

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undergroundmonorail

Can someone please help me understand this? I get that you start by taking the ln of both sides so you can bring down the exponent but for some reason my brain won't parse the next step. I think it's easy I'm just having a brainfart.

2 days ago, by El'endia Starman

@celtschk This sounds like a job for codegolf.SE! — Dan Henderson yesterday

:P

(Also see Alex's following comments.)

Anonymous

@undergroundmonorail The implicit differentiation?

@undergroundmonorail LHS is basically chain rule

undergroundmonorail

Oh okay