The Nineteenth Byte

FlagAsSpam

12:00 AM

Timwi

@FlagAsSpam My guess is they simply thought it was funny

Anonymous

Let's not forget the fourteen nonsense from yesterday

FlagAsSpam

@Mego ?

Anonymous

@FlagAsSpam There was a question that was (paraphrased) "why do I see the number fourteen everywhere"

Anonymous

It was promptly closed, deleted, and Roomba'd

FlagAsSpam

12:04 AM

Roomba'd?

Alex A.

@FlagAsSpam I think the answer to that is no

Anonymous

@FlagAsSpam The worst part is, they spelled it wrong

FlagAsSpam

They consider no?

Alex A.

Oh sorry, I thought you said "if they consider what they post"

Anonymous

@AlexA. "what" is only a synonym for "if" in Britain

Alex A.

12:11 AM

Is that true?

Anonymous

It's true wot you're in Britain

Dennis

@Mego If?

Anonymous

@Dennis ಠ_ಠ

Alex A.

Hey, @Dennis, you're a mathy chap.

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Q: Prime Concatenation Order

Consider the following procedure. Given an integer $n \geq 2$, obtain the canonical prime factorization of $n$, i.e. $\prod_{i=1}^k p_i^{e_i}$. Take the distinct factors $p_i$ and list them in ascending order. Concatenate them into a new integer. That is, 2 and 5 becomes 25, 3 and 7 becomes 37, ...

halp?

FlagAsSpam

@AlexA. Actually, yes, though not in standard english.

Anonymous

12:12 AM

On an unrelated note, does anybody know of a clever (read: golfy) way to map [0,1] => [-1,1]? ([1,0] => [-1,1] also works)

Anonymous

@FlagAsSpam Hence why I specified Britain :P

Alex A.

@Mego Elementwise subtraction of the reverse

Whether that's golfy depends on the language

Anonymous

It's Seriously, so it sort of is

Timwi

@Mego 2*x − 1?... I must be missing something?

Alex A.

^ that's better than mine

Timwi

12:18 AM

I don’t even understand yours

Oh, now I get it

FlagAsSpam

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A: Make a scalable Christmas Tree

AppleScript + SE Answer Actually picked this up by accident while editing an answer in this question. Go figure. tell application "System Events" set layers to (display dialog "" default answer "")'s text returned as number delay 5 repeat layers times keystroke ">" end r...

Timwi

Can I only wear one hat at a time?

Alex A.

Yes

Unfortunately

Timwi

That’s disappointing, seeing as my avatar has three “heads” :)

Alex A.

Haha

What is your avatar?

I find it aesthetically pleasing.

Timwi

12:20 AM

It symbolizes a binary tree

Thank you :)

Alex A.

Oh, okay

Dennis

@AlexA. Looks difficult.

Timwi

To me, the binary tree is incredibly amenable to abstractification, and I love abstract thinking, so the binary tree is my favourite data structure, to the point that a lot of real-life (non-programming) things sometimes feel like binary trees to me (or like they should be binary trees). </crazy madman rambling>

Alex A.

@Dennis I think so but that's because I don't know shit. In what respect do you find it difficult?

@Timwi backs away from the crazy madman

That's really interesting :)

Timwi

How about you, do you have some sort of special connection to magpies? (I hope that’s a magpie and I’m not embarrassing myself massively.)

Alex A.

12:23 AM

It's a magpie

I admire them for their intelligence (which is thought to be among the highest in the animal kingdom), their beautiful colors, and I think they're just generally neat. We don't have them in the US but we have crows, which I'm told are from the same family.

And I particularly enjoy the painting of a magpie that I've used for my avatar

Timwi

@AlexA. That’s really cool! :) I love magpies and crows too (and yes, they’re both corvids). I’m impressed with their problem-solving capabilities too, but in this regard I think I’m most impressed with the kea, which is a species of parrot.

Alex A.

"kea investigating tourists"

Dennis

@AlexA. The part where you ask if this process guaranteed to halt. :P

Alex A.

haha

Dennis

How often are hats awarded?

Alex A.

12:34 AM

I have absolutely no idea

Timwi

@Dennis They’re listed on winterbash2015.stackexchange.com

Alex A.

The Carl Frederickson hat would look awesome on your avatar, @Dennis. :P

Dennis

Dammit, looks like my comment got deleted before I got the hat...

feersum

what is a good place to download gcc for OSX?

Alex A.

It should already have it

feersum

12:36 AM

really?

Alex A.

Yeah

which gcc

feersum

what it already has is a "gcc" command that calls clang.

Dennis

@feersum ಠ_ಠ

Alex A.

Heh, yeah, I've notice that running gcc does call clang...

Is that a problem?

feersum

Yes, because I want to use gcc.

Not clang.

Alex A.

12:39 AM

brew install gcc49 or something like that

It'll be gccXX where XX is the version number X.X

feersum

Should I already have brew?

Dennis

@AlexA. gcc-is-clang? osx-is-wrong

quartata

@Dennis WHAT

gcc=clang on OSX?

Alex A.

@feersum No, go to brew.sh.

quartata

@AlexA. fink is better

Alex A.

12:43 AM

That is false

quartata

starts holy war over package managers

MacPorts is also better

Timwi

Every time you guys say “clang”, I hear in my head the metallic sound of a spanner getting stuck in some cogs

Alex A.

@quartata It really, really isn't.

quartata

@AlexA. Why

Alex A.

MacPorts pollutes your directories. Homebrew is self-contained.

quartata

12:46 AM

That's why you put it in /opt

Dennis

@quartata That's what I've been told. I don't use OS X.

quartata

@Dennis That's terrible. I'm so happy I don't use it anymore.

Alex A.

> It has been this way for a long time already. The "GCC" that came with 10.8 was really GCC front-end with LLVM back-end.

phase

I have to rewrite my entire algorithm because I'm reading two values at a time instead of one because SEGA IS STOOPID

quartata

@phase I have to agree. Sega is really stupid. Have you considered ROM hacking a sane game, like Super Mario World?

Alex A.

12:47 AM

@quartata I don't really see why it matters or why it would be a reason not to use OS X.

quartata

@AlexA. Because they're lying to you.

GCC and Clang are very different.

And yet they tell you that they are the same.

phase

@quartata everyone's already done that tho

quartata

That's not nice.

@phase No one has made a 3D version of SMW even though it is possible using DSP1

Alex A.

It's a GCC frontend. Idk, seems fine to me.

quartata

@AlexA. dafuq no it isn't.

It uses LLVM

phase

12:48 AM

@quartata yeah no that's a no no

Alex A.

> It has been this way for a long time already. The "GCC" that came with 10.8 was really GCC front-end with LLVM back-end.

quartata

Don't... even...

@phase I may or may not have tried to do this several years ago.

mınxomaτ

I have to ask an American here. It's a recurring theme in movies and TV series that people want to avoid Jury Duty. Why is that? What's so horrible about this?

quartata

@mınxomaτ borrrring

phase

@mınxomaτ You have to take off work for it and ^

quartata

12:49 AM

@AlexA. Really? I feel more lied to.

mınxomaτ

Wow, that is selfish.

phase

@mınxomaτ definition of america

Dennis

alias safari=chromium

Hey, openSUSE has Safari. ಠ_ಠ

mınxomaτ

openSUSE? I haven't heard that since '08.

quartata

@mınxomaτ ?

It's still alive.

Just because Torvalds doesn't use it anymore doesn't mean it isn't alive.

mınxomaτ

12:52 AM

I don't know a single person who uses openSUSE.

Dennis

Torvalds is using GNOME 3 now IIRC, so he's wrong anyway.

quartata

@Dennis Yep.

Dennis

@mınxomaτ You know me, sort of.

quartata

He says it doesn't suck anymore

lies (mostly)

mınxomaτ

Torvalds is an asshole anyway.

quartata

12:52 AM

@mınxomaτ Wow. Banned.

Don't even go there.

mınxomaτ

Even he says so.

quartata

Right. He gets to say so. You don't.

mınxomaτ

Linus Torvalds on his insults: respect should be earned.

►

quartata

That's how it works. It's a dictatorship, really.

Dennis

Also irrelephant. Assholes can be right or wrong.

quartata

12:53 AM

> irrelephant

Dennis

Sorry, car-correct.

quartata

That's OK. I think we're all ignoring the irrelephant in the room.

ba dum tishhh

Cyoce

elephant irrs can be quite big

quartata

shit well played

El'endia Starman

Amazing data visualization of daily lives of Americans.

(Where "Americans" = "those in the USA".)

Dennis

12:55 AM

Thank you.

Cyoce

... I don't get it

Timwi

I did get it, but I’m not sure what’s so amazing about it. It’s actually pretty difficult to follow exactly what’s going on.

Cyoce

Oh I see I have to scroll down

–_–

ehh

it's ok

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Q: P̯͍̭O̚N̐Y̡ify some text

Make a program that takes some text on standard input, and makes it look like this post. ASCII characters should be the same. For example PONY, it might output P̯͍̭O̚N̐Y̡. This is popularity contest, so the most votes win! Bonus: Include a tuneable parameter to control how P̯͍̭O̚N̐Y̡fied it ...

string popularity-contest pony

Alex A.

@NewMainPosts Hello. I want to hammer you closed as too broad or unclear. Take your pick.

@Dennis What do you think?

Dennis

1:05 AM

Unclear.

Alex A.

Any objection to wielding my hammer of justice?

Dennis

Oh, it's a popcon. Too broad then.

Wield ahead.

Cyoce

Who is "New Main Posts"?

Anonymous

@Cyoce The worst golfer on the site

Anonymous

@Timwi Thanks for your suggestion; that's much shorter

Alex A.

1:08 AM

@Cyoce It's a feed bot whose sole purpose is to post to chat whenever something is posted on the main site.

Dennis

@Cyoce It's a feed that posts the new questions on the main site here, approximately one eternity after they have been posted there.

Stupid lag.

Cyoce

~1 eternity

Alex A.

> Note: This is no real hard criteria. Your score is basically how cool and like the post you make the text (and probably what easter eggs you include).

So much ಠ_ಠ

Anonymous

Why did it get upvotes?

Dennis

Popcons are popular.

Timwi

1:09 AM

Because people liked the idea? I kinda liked the idea myself.

Anonymous

@Dennis facedesk

Cyoce

It's a mass of high temperature gases.

Alex A.

Mario Theme Head Slam

►

El'endia Starman

@Cyoce ....a star?

Hydrogen and helium are gases.

Cyoce

It's an animal.

Alex A.

1:11 AM

Oh, "gasses" is the present tense verb. :|

Cyoce

Why no the future?

Alex A.

Why in Equestria would anypony refer to that as “ponyfying”? — Timwi 9 mins ago

@Timwi ಠ_ಠ

Timwi

I don’t know how to interpret that emoticon :)

Cyoce

I don't know what you are talking about.

Alex A.

It's the disapproval face

Dennis

1:13 AM

(╯ಠ_ಠ）╯︵ ┻━┻

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feersum

@AlexA. brew install gcc hasn't moved in 20 minutes. Does that mean it's broken?

Cyoce

Where the hell did you get that idea, HAL?

Timwi

@AlexA. And what exactly do you disapprove of?

Alex A.

@feersum I assume you installed Homebrew first? :P Idk I think it can take a while sometimes but then again I haven't tried installing GCC using it.

@Timwi MLP. :P

Timwi

@AlexA. And why are you telling me that?

Cyoce

1:16 AM

cleverbot.com/conv/201512160107/…

Alex A.

@Timwi Fair question. I don't know. Because you referenced it? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Anonymous

@feersum No that sounds normal

Dennis

@Cyoce ???

Cyoce

Whenever someone would type something in chat, I would paste it into cleverbot, and then type what cleverbot said into chat

Timwi

@AlexA. Why shouldn’t I reference it in a post that refers to ponifying? :)

Alex A.

1:18 AM

@Timwi I never said you shouldn't. You should do whatever your heart desires.

quartata

@El'endiaStarman This is both really cool and somewhat spooky

Dennis

@Cyoce Surprisingly indistinguishable from the usual chat noise.

Alex A.

You know, unless it's like running over puppies or something.

El'endia Starman

@quartata Particularly the semi-rigidness of when people do stuff.

Alex A.

But I have a feeling that isn't a priority for you. :P

Timwi

1:20 AM

@AlexA. Thank you :)

@AlexA. What about running over schoolkids with my car? (After robbing liquor stores and selling crack)

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El'endia Starman

@Cyoce Wow, I had no idea. I thought you were just spouting off random comments for the lulz.

quartata

@Dennis I bet if we made a room with a bot that posted everything that got starred in the Nineteenth Byte and Cleverbot's response to it no one would be able to tell the difference

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Alex A.

@Timwi This is acceptable.

Timwi

@AlexA. Glad we’re on the same page then!

Maltysen

unless you start selling the crack to puppies

Alex A.

1:24 AM

Cocaine is vitamins to Hotel Soap.

hopes someone will get reference

quartata

@AlexA. got it

But it took me a moment.

Alex A.

Dr. Tran has a PhD in kicking your ass!

Cyoce

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A: Create output twice the length of the code

PlatyPar, 3 bytes 77^ Prints the result of 7 to the power of seven, or 823543, which is of length 6. Try it online!

Alex A.

What is PlatyPar?

quartata

Also @Dennis I don't know if you noticed but our Jelly chatroom was blessed by a guy who works at Dyalog 10/10

Cyoce

1:27 AM

@AlexA. My language

Dennis

@quartata Yes, I know.

:D

Maltysen

hey @orlp is Pyth5 fully standardized, if not fully implemented?

TheDoctor

someone should pin this again

Cyoce

In javascript you can do something similar:

` alert(Math.pow(98,98))`

quartata

@TheDoctor Can't.

Once a message has been pinned once it cannot be pinned again (at least by the same user)

TheDoctor

1:32 AM

y

there are other mods tho...

quartata

IIRC I don't think they can re-pin it either.

Maltysen

Nov 12 at 22:26, by Doorknob

okay seriously stop abusing stars

quartata

Someone else probably knows better.

@Maltysen oh stop

It's not like we really need it.

Timwi

How does one abuse stars?

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quartata

Don't fall for the reverse psychology, please.

Anonymous

1:33 AM

Whoa the dogetor is back

Cyoce

How does one abuse abuse of stars?

TheDoctor

yes i is

@Cyoce don't ask

Alex A.

@quartata I think it can be re-pinned

quartata

@AlexA. Really?

Hm.

I don't suggest you try, at any rate.

Alex A.

I can just unpin it

TheDoctor

1:35 AM

i.imgur.com/JyQLpv8.webm

Timwi

I’m flattered you found my question starworthy, but I’m asking honestly :) What constitutes an “abuse” of the star feature?

Alex A.

@quartata Looks like I can't

quartata

@AlexA. goddammit

Alex A.

@Timwi Starring everything

TheDoctor

i.imgur.com/c4VkHCd.webm

Anonymous

1:36 AM

@Timwi Slapping stars on everything, regardless of quality

quartata

Get that little tumor off of our starboard please

It doesn't NEED any more stars

And every time I see it

Alex A.

@quartata Oh wait, it's right there. It did get pinned.

quartata

I'm reminded of how I've failed.

23 stars just isn't good enough.

Cyoce

Noooooo

It left!

TheDoctor

i.imgur.com/F3JsvlS.webm

Anonymous

1:36 AM

@quartata You poor hardworking idiot :(

Anonymous

At least you're an onion knight!

quartata

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A: Shortest code to produce infinite output

Python - 9 while 1:1 Prints 1 infinitely in the terminal.

I still don't understand how this got any upvotes

I guess we didn't have Geobits back then.

I've just been looking through old questions and I'm seriously surprised how many invalid answers there are

Timwi

LOL now everyone flocks to it to downvote it

quartata

Oh well don't downvote it after the fact. It's far too late.

Timwi

The poor guy is going to see the –∞ rep change tomorrow morning

Alex A.

1:39 AM

@quartata No it isn't

isaacg

True. Pyth feels like the name of an Old God. — Stephane 2 days ago

quartata

@Timwi I guess that's just how the chat hive mind works.

@isaacg I saw this on WB.

Pyth has gained some notoriety.

Alex A.

We don't want newcomers to see it and think it's an acceptable thing. It should be downvoted for the sake of site quality, regardless how old it is.

Timwi

BTW all you downvoters forgot to upvote the comment that explains the downvote.

quartata

@Timwi I actually did

Cyoce

1:41 AM

there are 3 downvoted python answers wtf

quartata

Also I love the part where it has gotten 6 downvotes in less than a minute

Nineteenth Byte is going to get banned for serial voting

Even better honestly

codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/34699/45151

This answer took an entire year to get deleted

Alex A.

It isn't serial voting if it's not a single voter

quartata

@AlexA. I'm kidding.

Alex A.

Oh, okay

quartata

Although technically since we are a hive mind...

Anonymous

1:44 AM

Looks like a good use of my recently-acquired delete-vote privilege

quartata

I still don't understand why I can't delete it.

Anonymous

People need to start upvoting/answering my latest challenge so I can potentially get Onion Knight if we're right :P

quartata

I guess it's because it hasn't had a negative score for 2 days.

@Mego Oh, does David's Hat Store have a new theory?

We've pretty much tried everything IIRC

Cyoce

I'm bored! Let's get some stars.

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Q: Center The Text!

Center The Text! In this challenge you will be centering various lines. Examples Foo barbaz Foo barbaz Hello World Hello World Programming Puzzles & Code Golf Programming Puzzles & Code Golf Specifications Each line will always have at least one non-whitespace char...

code-golf string typography

Anonymous

1:51 AM

@quartata The latest theory from MSE is fgnegf fybj va ivrjf naq gura encvqyl npdhverf gurz, ynaqvat ba UAD (rot13 for spoilers)

quartata

@Mego That's not it.

We've already figured that out.

Also I didn't even have to rot13 it to know that you said something about HNQ.

Anonymous

Saying "HNQ" alone is not a spoiler :P

quartata

But we've found Onion Knighters that had questions that didn't make it to HNQ (nor did they have any votes)

Anonymous

Maybe it's just the first part then

quartata

@AlexA. Hey!

Anonymous

1:55 AM

There, since nobody else apparently wants to answer:

Anonymous

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A: D&D Skill Challenges

Python, 146 bytes import random def g(a,b,c): s,z=[],[c,b] while z[0]and z[1]:d=random.randrange(20)+1;z[a<d]-=[1,z[a<d]][d in[1,20]];s+=[d] return s+[z[1]<z[0]] Pretty simple, can probably be golfed a bit more, but we needed something to kick this off. Try it online.

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