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12:00 AM
Behold, for the midnight of UTC is upon us.
 
Yay I get more green numbers now!
 
Let us now all upvote this
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A: Programming Puzzles and Taco Truck

Doorknob 冰Ruby, 376 375 368 363 362 bytes ->a{p='ALLITROT'.chars s='LATORTIL'.chars t=[' TORTIL'] c=[*a.split(?,).chunk(&:upcase)] c.map.with_index{|x,i|n=x[1].size*2 w=x[0].tr(' ','')*9*n [n+=i==0?1:0,w.sub!(/..../,' \0 ')]if i==c.size-1 w.chars.each_slice(6).take(n).reverse.map{|l|t=["#{p.shift||' '}...

 
I can't
a red box pops up for some reason
 
Sound like you computer has virus
 
ono how does fix
 
12:01 AM
delet system42
 
llama@llama:~$ delet system42
zsh: command not found: delet
 
Virus is worst then I thought
 
... that's going to be in my zsh history forever now and some day I'm going to stumble upon it and think "waaat"
 
rm ~/.zsh*
 
noooo not my zshrc
 
12:03 AM
That William remove viras
echo "delet system42" > ~/.zsh_history
 
llama@llama:~$ ls .zsh_history
ls: cannot access .zsh_history: No such file or directory
 
echo $HISTFILE ?
 
/home/llama/misc/ZSH_HISTORY
 
echo "DELET SYSTEM THIRTITO ZIMBABEW" > $HISTFILE
 
What is the byte for EOF?
 
Anonymous
12:08 AM
@phase Depends, either 0 or 255
 
Anonymous
But it should be 0
 
It's probably like 4 on Windows or something
 
On the shell (i.e. what ^D sends), \0x04
 
Anonymous
@AlexA. Cygwin says 0
 
I wuz maek jock
 
Anonymous
12:10 AM
@Doorknob冰 EOT != EOF
 
@Mego What's an EOT?
 
End of terminal?
 
Anyway, yeah, that's technically not "EOF," but lots of people call it that
 
Anonymous
@Doorknob冰 End of Transmission
 
End of time?
 
Anonymous
12:11 AM
Used in network communications
 
neither are working but I don't know if it's just my code or not
 
What are you trying to do?
closed as unclear what you're asking
 
Reopened to get hat
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
if the current char is the EOF, process stuff
 
12:12 AM
@phase Language?
 
Groovy
 
Groovy undoubtedly has some kind of eof function or whatever
 
Why does ls ./*/*.cc not glob expand?
 
@feersum Are there things called that in your directory...?
 
It says ls: ./*/*.cc: No such file or directory
It takes it as a literal path
 
12:14 AM
That means there's nothing called that
double check, make sure you're in the right directory...
 
I know there are many .cc files in the descendants of this directory
 
Are you sure?
 
@phase if ((str = input.readLine()) == null) ...
 
yes!!!
 
@feersum but are you sure they are exactly two levels in?
@AlexA. I just added a counter and checked for string length
 
12:16 AM
No, shouldn't /*/ go any number of levels down?
 
nope
 
^
 
I know there's a thing like that
what is it?
 
Try ** (not sure if that's a zsh thing or whether it works in bash too)
 
@Doorknob冰 bash too
 
12:18 AM
heya!
 
Doesn't seem to help
 
You're doing ls ./**/*.cc?
 
Yes
 
Should work
 
@Mego :D
 
12:20 AM
@PhiNotPi are you still doing factions on archon?
 
@anOKsquirrel I never actually played, but I can.
I want to.
 
@PhiNotPi well, if you want to start a faction with me...
 
Sure
 
right now?
 
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'BʀɪᴇɴComplement Cat answer-chaining Objective Write an answer that outputs the previous answer. Simple enough, right? Well, here's the catch: You may not use any characters that were present in the previous answer. That's right, none of them. Thus, you are trying to be the last answer for a total ...

suggestions?
I'm rather excited.
 
12:24 AM
Seems interesting.
 
Let's do blue factions
 
I thought someone said platinum, but it doesn't matter to me at all.
 
whatever you want, I dunno
what's your ign?
 
Right now it is magnanimous_phi
 
join the server?
mine is nerxit
 
12:26 AM
51
A: The MIT License – Clarity on Using Code Across the Stack Exchange Network

200_successIn essence, this proposal is to move from a copyleft license (CC-BY-SA 3.0) to a permissive license for code. (By default, it's basically the most permissive license possible, nearly equivalent to public domain with a liability disclaimer.) Having thought about it for a couple of hours, I've sh...

This
(Sorry @Doorknob冰, I know how much you love MIT)
 
@anOKsquirrel I think I'm on the blue server now
 
@AlexA. nuuuuuuu
 
@Doorknob冰 Honestly I agree with this guy. MIT just doesn't seem appropriate in this situation. CC-BY-SA seems more in the spirit of the network.
 
I think platinum had a limit as to the number of people per faction.
 
12:27 AM
should be fine
 
@anOKsquirrel I'm doing /f ls to try tof ind which server is "less popular"
 
can we just use the chat ingame? its easier
 
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'BʀɪᴇɴComplement Cat answer-chaining Objective Write an answer that outputs the previous answer. Simple enough, right? Well, here's the catch: You may not use any characters that were present in the previous answer. That's right, none of them. Thus, you are trying to be the last answer for a total ...

 
Anonymous
@Mego I like that Idea. — Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ 39 secs ago
 
Anonymous
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Have you been playing AC4 or something?
 
12:34 AM
@Mego AC4?
 
Anonymous
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag
 
Oh, haha. Is that a quote or something?
 
Anonymous
AC4 has a strange Habit of capitalizing various Nouns in its Dialog Subtitles.
 
Oh, I see XD
 
@Mego Sounds German. (In German all nouns are capitalized.)
It's capitalization chaos
 
Anonymous
12:37 AM
@AlexA. Which would make sense if I weren't using the American English language setting, and if the team was from Germany rather than Montreal.
 
The winterbash2015 page is actually kind of cute
 
@Mego Montreal's population is at least 98.4% German, particularly Ubisoft HQ.
 
Anonymous
@AlexA. That is News to me.
 
@AlexA. [citation-needed]
 
Anonymous
12:40 AM
I thought it would be more French.
 
@Doorknob冰
@Mego C'est vrai.
Montreal is very French. I was trolling. I have absolutely no idea what percentage of the population of Montreal, a city I've never been to in a country I don't live in, is German.
 
@AlexA. his thought is true? :/
 
Idk
 
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'BʀɪᴇɴComplement Cat answer-chaining Objective Write a program that outputs an arbitrary string of text, no more than 64 characters long. Simple enough, right? Well, here's the catch: You may not use any characters that were present in the previous answer's output. That's right, none of them. Thus, ...

revised
\o/
 
12:48 AM
@phase 0/10 butternut squash
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Downvote removed :)
(it does sound like an interesting idea)
 
@Doorknob冰 \O/ YAY
@Doorknob冰 Danke Doorknob
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Is this the celebratory emoji with a swollen head?
 
@AlexA. but i tried really really hard
 
@AlexA. \O@
 
12:50 AM
@Doorknob冰 Too many cinnamon rolls
@phase 10/5 insufficiently cucumber
 
\O@@@@@@@
 
@Doorknob冰 I want this to be me forever
 
@AlexA. Indeed!
 
@AlexA. sure babycakes
 
I haven't had a cinnamon roll in like 10 years.
 
12:50 AM
O_O
This is a travesty
You should correct this at once
 
Wait, no. When I lived in Seattle there was a place not too far away that made cinnamon rolls. I had those a few times. They were alright.
 
Currently looking for a better color scheme for New And Improved Doorknob 2.0™.
 
6/10 very phallic
9
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
just make it all purple
 
12:52 AM
ok
 
@Doorknob冰 10/100 too line-y (in binary)
 
then I won't have to see your ugly handle
 
@Doorknob冰 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@phase Rude
 
@phase D:
 
I was talking to mego, you handles are fine dorknoob
 
12:53 AM
*ᴋɴᴏʙs
 
> you handles are fine
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ *[]n[]es
 
Hello
 
@AlexA. Would making the middle connecty thingy shorter make it look... less so? >.<
 
@SimpleArt hi!
 
12:54 AM
What is this chat for?
 
usually
2
 
@Doorknob冰 Yes
 
:)
oh
Well, I'll be going
Cya
 
Bye!
 
Haha you're welcome to stay
But if you're leaving then have a good day!
/night/timezone
 
12:55 AM
> enters chat, finds out it's about programming, exits chat
 
> char
 
char broiled chat
 
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A: Is this a "good enough" random algorithm; why isn't it used if it's faster?

higuaroThe fastest random generator you could implement is this: XD, jokes apart, besides everything said here, I'd like to contribute citing that testing random sequences "is a hard task" [ 1 ], and there are several test that check certain properties of pseudo-random numbers, you can find a lot o...

 
@phase Honey, this room ain't about programming.
5
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ does Jolf have string interpolation yet?
 
12:59 AM
@Cyoce wat's that?
 
inserting an expression into a string
e.g. in JavaScript
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ In Julia it's "$x says hello" where x is some variable
 
`${expression here}`
 
is equivalent to
 
1:00 AM
In Ruby it's "#{x}"
 
Not a bad idea to add...
 
` normal text ${variable} more normal text`
is like
 
I think he gets it
 
"normal text " + variable + " more normal text"
 
1:01 AM
I just don't recognize the name.
 
So I have an idea for how to do it with Jolf
 
so it's prefix
and every operation has an arity right?
 
so if f takes 2 params, fab compiles to f(a,b)
Just have an interpolation symbol, then the expression
Stop the interpolation when the last paren closes
"normal text %fab more normal text"
 
1:02 AM
hmm
I like that idea
 
"normal text %f(a,b) more normal text"
 
why not just do it by default like ruby & cofeescript?
 
because then you need unnecessary brackets
 
What should the interp. symbol be?
 
This way it takes advantage of the set arities and implicit parens
I like %
 
1:03 AM
M'kay ^_^
 
But $ and # work too
In PlatyPar, it's even shorter
 
"Normal text % more normal text"
 
the % just reads the last item of the stack
 
1:04 AM
:O that's a cool idea
I'll work on it in ~two days, after exams.
 
ooh how about you do that for prefix by making strings an operator themselves with variable arity?
its arity will be the number of occurrences of %
 
HOW HAVE I BEEN PROGRAMMING JAVA FOR 4 YEARS AND NEVER SEEN THIS
 
Maltysen you can think of the % as an operator with an arity of 1
 
@Maltysen mmm I haven't gotten around to implementing variable-arity operators in Jolf yet
 
1:05 AM
now with 100% more purple
 
"Normal text %function(a,b) more normal text"
 
@Doorknob冰 [citation-needed]
 
@Doorknob冰 4/7 my water glass was dirty so i got a new one
 
"Normal text " + %(function(a,b)) + " more normal text"
 
@Cyoce I'm saying "normal text % normal text"value
 
1:07 AM
@Maltysen ohhhh
 
That's how Python does it, interesting...
 
or "normal text % normal text % normal text" val1 val2
 
Although I feel that would be harder to read and compile but wouldn't shorten byte count
 
1:07 AM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ but no need for an actual % operator, it happens implicitly
 
@Maltysen Yeah, true.
That would prolly be easier to implement
 
"normal text % normal text % normal text"ab
"normal text %a normal text %b normal text"
Same length, harder to read, probably harder to compile
 
The first one is basically like a C format string
 
Because with my approach, you can implement `%` as an operator with 1-arity.
The other approach implements `%` as an operator that increases its parent string's arity.
 
@Cyoce oh so the second one will stop parsing the string ans start parsing the expression?
 
1:10 AM
yes
it ignores the fact that it is in a string for 1 set of parens
(which are implicit, unlike the parens that this parenthetical addition is encapsulated in)
whoo that was fun to type :D
 
yeah the second one is better then
 
PlatyPar uses # and $ for consistency with the strings I use to generate compiled code
 
@PhiNotPi hey
 
Okay that did not go to plan
 
yeah
 
1:15 AM
... minecraft?
 
Factions is weird, and thearchon is full of jerks anyways
Phi do you like skyblock?
 
Sure
 
We should set up a sb server or something.
 
Never did a serious play of it, though
Sure
 
Don't join skyblock.org, they really suck
the chatspam is insane there
 
1:17 AM
(they say as they talk about minecraft in a code golf chatroom)
 
@PhiNotPi random thing that PPCGers will also like: youtube.com/watch?v=v69Yq0VdUQM&feature=share
 
@PhiNotPi Already existing skyblock server or a custom just for us?
 
@anOKsquirrel What would an existing server be like?
Everyone on the server on the same skyblock?
 
@PhiNotPi Well, most have an economy.
@PhiNotPi no different skyblocks.
 
1:29 AM
doesn't matter to me
 
skyblock.org sucks, economys allow you to have redstone if that's what you want
actually, never played .org. I meant .net
 
@anOKsquirrel The plural of "economy" is "economies."
 
@AlexA. whoops
 
@BrainSteel
 
@AlexA.
 
1:34 AM
Hi
 
@Phi we could start a non-economy server, what do you want?
 
'eyo.
 
How are things?
 
\o/ might be getting Mathematica
 
1:39 AM
Student version?
 
or get a rasPi
 
it comes in versions? .___.
 
I have Mathematica Student Edition v9.
 
Uh, idk. Personally I miss Maple, which I had on my old PC.
I rarely use Mathematica because I can never remember the syntax.
 
1:41 AM
It's weird
 
Maple is a commercial computer algebra system developed and sold commercially by Maplesoft, a software company based in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. The current major version is version 2015, which was released in March 2015. It was first developed in 1980 by the Symbolic Computation Group at the University of Waterloo. In 1988, Maplesoft (then known as Waterloo Maple Inc.) was founded to commercialize the technology. == Overview == === Core functionality === Users can enter mathematics in traditional mathematical notation. Custom user interfaces can also be created. There is support for ...
 
Things are great!
 
The next JS feature should be one-liner functions!
 
Mathematica has more features
But I found Maple more user friendly
@BrainSteel I'm glad! :)
 
1:42 AM
If these are valid:
for (;;) {}
function () {}
Why not:
function () code
 
@PhiNotPi Realms has a free trial...
 
@AlexA. I still have it and still use it! Version 4.0 from 1996 :)
 
I think skyblock is one of the maps you can choose
 
Brackets are annoying and should be banished from all uses except when multiple things must be done
 
@Cyoce f => code
 
1:44 AM
@Timwi Haha I don't think I'd remember it as fondly from 1996. I think I got it in like 2008, when it was very GUI-centric.
 
window.a = "error";
f = () => this.a;
f.call ({a: "no error"})  // "error"
 
@AlexA. The version I have is already GUI-centric; it certainly doesn’t have any command-line access or automatable interoperability
 
@anOKsquirrel Up to you (I just went and ate dinner)
 
@PhiNotPi ah, I see. how much do you like redstone?
 
@Cyoce f.apply({a: "no error"},[])
 
1:46 AM
I am redstone.
 
@Timwi Oh, I guess I mean menu-based. For example, I could select from dropdowns formulas with boxes where I could put in numbers and it would evaluate.
 
same
So an economy-based server might be good
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ orly
 
@Cyoce function x() 3
 
1:48 AM
 
2 mins ago, by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
or naw
 
HA
 
@PhiNotPi I heard itsjerryandharry is a decent server?
 
@anOKsquirrel you two need a private room
 
@Cyoce okay
 
1:50 AM
function x() this.a
x.call({a:"no error"})
 
BTW I’m shocked that now in 2015 there’s still no open-source algebra system that can do roughly what Maple could do in 1998
 
what could it do?
 
Maple?
 
 
1:52 AM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ That's not an answer.
 
@Cyoce works in firefox ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
@mınxomaτ Check out earlier messages, e.g. chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/26242721#26242721
 
@mınxomaτ why not?
 
@Timwi So what's the advantage over Wolfram? (Or however Wolfram's new Programming Language was called again).
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I don’t remember exactly what it was, but at some point this year I searched around for open-source algebra systems, and I found them all lacking compared to Maple
 
1:54 AM
Ohhh, open-source.
 
Actually, forget open-source, just free would be good enough
 
yesterday, by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ
But cross-browser support!
Checkmate
 
Speaking of open-source. Is there a central website to benchmark new compression algorithms with a mixed set of data against other algo's? (Like the Hutter prize, but way less specific).
 
http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/240?m=26180877#26180877
Checkmate
 

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