The Nineteenth Byte

Anonymous

4:00 AM

Low-effort jokes are the best. I repeated a joke I made 12 hours ago with a minor variation and got a star for it.

Nathan Merrill

how does one prove that the distribution of circles is the same?

quintopia

if you prove that any given permutation is as likely as any other, that proves it's uniform

I'm pretty sure the second method I described is at least uniform

although...

yeah i think it's probably O(n) also

phase

nice readme image?

Nathan Merrill

right, but with 5 people, I think that the naive way doesn't produce different circles at the same frequency

quintopia

i'm not sure what the naive way means

just brute force trying permutations and checking that they don't assign someone to himself?

Nathan Merrill

4:03 AM

yes

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Mego Erm, someone wasn't here 12 hours ago, perhaps... ^^"

quintopia

here's another method: pick a random person. for every person that is assigned to himself, swap him with someone else.

at random

the swap cannot result in either of the swapped being assigned themselves

El'endia Starman

Reached the right edge!

Nathan Merrill

I believe that will work

quintopia

(this is the same as the method used to construct uniform graphs with a given degree sequence)

or rather, the method within that that ensures connectivity is maintained

so who finds this as beautiful as i do: esolangs.org/wiki/UberGenes#Python_2

Maltysen

4:09 AM

single letter classnames!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Maltysen ಠ_ಠ

Bᴇ ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴍᴀᴛʜᴇᴍᴀᴛɪᴄᴀ, ᴡɪᴛʜ 99-ʟᴇᴛᴛᴇʀ ʙᴜɪʟᴛɪɴs.

Anonymous

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ The joke from 12 hours ago was also starred

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Mego @MartinBüttner's joke?

Anonymous

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Oh, I thought my joke (which prompted Martin's joke) also got starred. I misremembered. Oh well.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Mego Oh well indeed. What was it?

El'endia Starman

4:12 AM

@Mego 154 coins in 3000-something seconds.

Alien G

I've got a great idea. Basically I'll get a HoloLens, then code an app that allows you to augment a microwave around an object, that you're pointing at, then blast microwave waves towards it C:

El'endia Starman

@AlienG Step 1: be rich.

phase

Step 2: Get lit

jk, don't do drugs kids

El'endia Starman

Huh, 169 coins in the entire game. Dang.

phase

@Mego why is your explanation maker so complicated, mine is half the lines and does the same thing

mbomb007

4:17 AM

@El'endiaStarman ^

You guys looked at the obfuscated source code for the xkcd yet?

xkcd.com/1608/tigl.min.js

quintopia

@NathanMerrill sprunge.us/GAgb

@phase great now write an auto-golfer kthx

mbomb007

Also, someone made a map of the xkcd, but you can't zoom out too far (I changed the pen to allow it, and it'll consume your CPU and RAM.) codepen.io/KyleDavidE/full/WQBawV

phase

@quintopia wut

mbomb007

Wait, found a good overview:

Nathan Merrill

@quintopia I'm suspicious about the k+=(k>=person) line

El'endia Starman

4:22 AM

@mbomb007 ZOMG.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@mbomb007 That was quick

El'endia Starman

Oh, I'm pretty sure that rock island in the sky is where the other 15 coins were...

Nathan Merrill

I think a better solution would simply to have a hashmap of all elements, and remove yourself

actually, that's not random

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman 3042 seconds. Forgot how many coins.

El'endia Starman

Oh, there's a spiral in the Star Destroyer that I missed.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

4:24 AM

Star this message if you want to unpin @Doorknob's message ;)

El'endia Starman

Oh, I missed the Apollo command module too.

quintopia

@NathanMerrill it just makes sure you don't pick yourself.

Nathan Merrill

oh, nevermind, I understand what you are doing

mbomb007

@El'endiaStarman Hidden passages:

imgur.com/a/fKE1Q

Nathan Merrill

that's genius, because it increments all picked indices above itself

I was reading it as (if it picked itself, increment by 1)

mbomb007

4:26 AM

I found all of this from the explainxkcd page, basically.

explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1608

quintopia

yeah. i almost wrote an if else block with the second one having k+1 in the indices

and i was like

El'endia Starman

@mbomb007 I got all those too.

quintopia

nah

too lazy

mbomb007

@El'endiaStarman To see a list of coin coordinates you have not yet collected:

Doorknob

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ eh, it'll be unpinned automagically eventually

mbomb007

4:28 AM

   // Source: explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1608
   var L = 0;
   for (var S = 0; S < explorer.objects.length; S++) {
       var I = explorer.objects[S];
       if (I.got) {
           L++;
       } else {
           console.log(I.x1.toString() + ", " + I.y1.toString());
       }
   }
   console.log("You've found " + L.toString() + " of 169 coins");

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doorknob Eᴠᴇɴᴛᴜᴀʟʟʏ ɪs ᴀ ʟᴏɴɢ ᴛɪᴍᴇ ᴀᴡᴀʏ ;)

quintopia

@mbomb007 I found the one hidden passage inside the dark tower, but it was lame because nothing was there

I never went to the top though...

mbomb007

@quintopia I skipped exploring after going through lots of the star destroyer. That's when I decided to look up a map, etc.

El'endia Starman

Okay, visited the Apollo command module and the floating rock island. I'm satisfied now. :P

mbomb007

Where is the Steven Universe stuff located?

I heard it's on the left side somewhere. Also, where is Darth Vader?

El'endia Starman

4:33 AM

Star Destroyer, close to the bubble on the "upper left". You'll have to go through tunnels to get to him though.

quintopia

...or just turn on noclip

phase

aditsu

so, is there an overview of the whole map? codepen.io/KyleDavidE/full/605dc87b614ff6b2bd716f4c6f640203 doesn't zoom out enough :/

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Good night guys!

aditsu

@mbomb007 oh wait, is that all of it?

undergroundmonorail

4:46 AM

'night

Alien G

ted.com/talks/…

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

sorry but shameless advertisement

bye for real now

Calvin's Hobbies

Why do shoeboxes have holes in the sides?

phase

wow, a golfing language made in JavaScript, how original

@Calvin'sHobbies air

Downgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ That makes 4 JavaScript golfing languages

Calvin's Hobbies

4:51 AM

@phase Though some clothes are sold in airtight bags. I guess not rubber/leather.

phase

@Downgoat Give me 10 minutes and it'll be 5

Doorknob

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ that is entirely unreadable on mobile

phase

@Doorknob it's unreadable on chrome ;-;

Downgoat

Small caps don't display correctly in Chrome? Does that mean by whole Profile about me is squares?

aditsu

it's not about the browser, it's about the fonts

Calvin's Hobbies

4:56 AM

@Downgoat This whole chatroom is full of squares

Downgoat

@Calvin'sHobbies �� ?

Dennis

@phase How about now? cjam.tryitonline.net

aditsu

@Downgoat I ᴄᴀɴ ʀᴇᴀᴅ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴘʀᴏꜰɪʟᴇ, ʙᴜᴛ ᴀ ꜰᴇᴡ ᴏꜰ ᴛʜᴇ ᴄʜᴀʀᴀᴄᴛᴇʀꜱ ʟᴏᴏᴋ ꜱʟɪɢʜᴛʟʏ ᴏꜰꜰ

ᴇ.ɢ. ʏᴏᴜʀ ꜰ'ꜱ ᴀɴᴅ ꜱ'ᴇꜱ ᴀʀᴇ ᴡᴇɪʀᴅ

Downgoat

@aditsu Huh, they look weird in chat too. Must be a unicode problem

Calvin's Hobbies

^ ^
ᴖ ᴖ
 ᴥ

aditsu

5:02 AM

ᴛʜᴇʏ ꜱᴇᴇᴍ ꜰɪɴᴇ ʜᴇʀᴇ, ᴍᴀʏʙᴇ ᴅɪꜰꜰᴇʀᴇɴᴛ ꜰᴏɴᴛ?

ᴀᴛ ʟᴇᴀꜱᴛ ʏᴏᴜ'ʀᴇ ᴜꜱɪɴɢ ᴀ ᴅɪꜰꜰᴇʀᴇɴᴛ ꜰ: ғ

@Calvin'sHobbies nice doge :)

Downgoat

@aditsu Pʀᴏʙᴀʙʟʏ, ᴊᴜsᴛ ᴅɪғғᴇʀᴇɴᴛ sᴍᴀʟʟ ᴄᴀᴘs ɢᴇɴᴇʀᴀᴛᴏʀs

Dennis

Oh god. The squares! The question marks!

aditsu

HA Hᴀ ʜᴀ ʜa ha ha!

Downgoat

@Dennis Wh�t sq�ares�

Calvin's Hobbies

@aditsu ☉ᴥ☉

aditsu

5:05 AM

@Calvin'sHobbies ／人 ◕‿‿◕ 人＼

Anonymous

0

A: Make a Math Competition Grader

Seriously, 63 bytes ,`"Invalid Test";(;l:30:=I;' UΣS" ABCDE"=I`MiZ`i@;(=5*(' =D+`MΣ Try it online Working on the bonus now. Nope, adding the bonus would cost more than 20 bytes.

Anonymous

My masterpiece

Calvin's Hobbies

∧ ∧
◔ ◔
 ⊥

Thomas Kwa

I noticed in this answer that the character ⸩ is used. It's meant to "shorten" )), but two parentheses are 2 bytes whereas ⸩ is three bytes. So the author knows the answer could be golfed, but is choosing to optimize for character count instead. Is that a problem?

I think ESMin uses UTF-8, by the way.

Calvin's Hobbies

Maybe he doesn't realize

Downgoat

5:11 AM

@ThomasKwa Last time I asked him about his unicode character choice he said something along the lines of "it looks cool", I'd assume the same

Thomas Kwa

Huh

I don't like when people choose not to golf an answer because it looks cool

Downgoat

But to me it looks ~~like APL and a corrupted image file had a baby~~ special

Anonymous

@ThomasKwa Me neither, hence why I downvoted it

Anonymous

62 stars on the pinned message...

Anonymous

"It'll get auto-removed" he said

Thomas Kwa

5:14 AM

@Downgoat you forgot to strike the "like"

Anonymous

"Totally not abusable by socks" they said

Alex A.

Downgoat? Who the hell is that?

Anonymous

Vihan

Optimizer

@Downgoat a special baby

Alex A.

Ahahaha @Downgoat nice name

Downgoat

5:15 AM

I knew I was going to regret this ._.

quartata

Bleatt

Optimizer

@Geobits has a competition now!

Anonymous

@Downgoat media.giphy.com/media/Q6lrzliWvxS6c/giphy.gif

Anonymous

Err how 2 onebox

ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ

Oh, you guys are talking about 𝔼𝕊𝕄𝕚𝕟, eh?

I see.

quartata

5:16 AM

must be separate message

Anonymous

derpy goat is derpy

Downgoat

Optimizer

stop pasting gifs from goat simulator!

it ain't gonna go down well

Downgoat

This won't goat down well

Anonymous

5:18 AM

Optimizer

aditsu

lol I switch to another tab for 2 minutes and get back to this :p

2

Downgoat

the ~~shit~~ productive content you find here

Optimizer

@aditsu at least you should not be surprised!

Calvin's Hobbies

@Mego Shinier avatar ^

Anonymous

5:20 AM

Reasons why goatsim is the ~~best game~~ most accurate simulation ever:

Anonymous

@Calvin'sHobbies Radioactive penguin?

aditsu

heh, even a simple search for goat finds some awesome images

ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ

@ThomasKwa I don't recall saying that. I chose non-ASCII chars because the newb me back then didn't understand that characters could hold multibyte values. So I started plucking out chars that looked symbolically logical, and before I knew it, there was no going back. (I don't regret that decision, though.)

Downgoat

@aditsu That was my old profile picture :p

aditsu

5:21 AM

oh, I hadn't seen it

Anonymous

ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ

Downgoat

ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ

2

Downgoat

I need to superimpose that onto my avatar

Anonymous

5:23 AM

100% accurate physics 0% bugs:

Anonymous

Thomas Kwa

@ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ My problem isn't with your choice of language design, but with the fact that you know you can shave one byte off that particular solution by replacing ⸩ with )) but do not.

aditsu

@ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ if you look closely, you may notice it's not a goat (still epic though)

Anonymous

How to take over starboard:

1. post goat gifs
2. why do you need a step 2 you're not done with step 1 yet

El'endia Starman

@Doorknob: Is going to kill you all.

aditsu

5:25 AM

oh, he's not down with the goat?

GOAT SIMULATOR #2 (Teens React: Gaming)

►

ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ

@ThomasKwa Again, one of the early design flaws. I might make an ASCII-grounded ESMin (NO DOUBLESTRUCK!) later (or one of y'all can).

@aditsu Oh well...

THE ARMY IS HERE!

El'endia Starman

@aditsu Gifs kill his browser(/internet?). Makes it really slow.

Anonymous

Everyone knows trouts have no effect on goats

ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ

2

Downgoat

savage

ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ

5:27 AM

Ah, the internet...

Anonymous

Man spinning circles are neat

ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ

Why not spinning goats?

Downgoat

^ better?

Anonymous

~~goatspin~~ nevermind

Anonymous

@Downgoat You spin me right round baby right round like an otter baby right round right round

aditsu

5:30 AM

Leek Spin

►

ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ

V2 Goatspinner

This should be a lang

Alien G

@aditsu leekspin.com

Downgoat

ಠ_ಠ

goatspin-v2

Alien G

Also. breadfish.co.uk

Anonymous

i.imgur.com/IZRrnkF.gifv

Anonymous

5:32 AM

>_>

Downgoat

Goatspin v2 esolang

Anonymous

orlp

@Mego there's 169

Alex A.

Anonymous

@AlexA. More socks?

Alex A.

5:40 AM

?

Anonymous

@AlexA. I didn't realize you had a sock account on Twitter too

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Q: Exp function with only addition?

I trying to create a Haskell function: exp :: Int -> Int -> Int wich calculate x^n only en terms of sums... How can i start? I'm new in this programming paradigm.

haskell

Alex A.

@Mego I don't even have a Twitter account

Anonymous

@Downgoat "lose" -> opposite of gain. "loose" -> opposite of tight.

2

Thomas Kwa

@ןnɟuɐɯɹɐןoɯ That's not the point. Code golf is scored by bytes. You need to try to win. It's not a problem if you include a short-in-chars solution alongside the golfed solution, but only trying to optimize for character count is against the goal of code-golf.

It'd be like if I golfed in Java, but decided that since Java isn't very good at code golf, I'd try to minimize the number of variables used instead.

Downgoat

5:43 AM

@Mego Are you sure. lose == loose seems to return true in this programming language

Thomas Kwa

"##Java, 8 variables/444 bytes"

orlp

phase

aditsu

George Carlin - fear of germs

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Thomas Kwa

@phase ?

quartata

5:54 AM

You know I just realized something.

phase

@ThomasKwa trying to create an auto-explainer for O, failing pretty hard

quartata

If we had a bot that automagically closed any quesion without a primary tag we'd eliminate liek 90% of off topic questions

Also

> viewed 9994 times

se pls

phase

nah

quartata

nah to the bot or to the 6 views I need?

Downgoat

@quartata I refreshed it and it's still not increasing :\ I think the view counter is broke

quartata

6:01 AM

It's unique views

Downgoat

oh look its at 9996 \o/

Alex A.

@phase idk looks perfect to me, 3/10

phase

@AlexA. I don't know how to get the max amount of spaces when iterating over them :\

Alex A.

@phase Maximum amount of spaces of what when iterating over what?

phase

@AlexA. The list of explanations

Alex A.

6:08 AM

Well, you find the length of the command you're explaining for each command, get the maximum length, figure out how much space you want before the explanations, then do space_wanted + max_length - current_length spaces for each line.

phase

@AlexA. but I don't have the max length

Alex A.

Go through the sections of code you want to explain. For each segment, figure out how long it is. After that, you'll know all the lengths, so you'll know which is longest.

phase

so close

Alex A.

Looking better though!

phase

6:24 AM

HAZAAA!

Alex A.

That looks great! Nice work!

phase

:D

good enough

Alex A.

Hahaha

Barely noticeable

phase

I've got lots of random +1's and 2's everywhere, which I don't why I would need

Anonymous

Question for mods (@AlexA.):

Anonymous

6:29 AM

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Q: Make a Math Competition Grader

I enjoy participating in math competitions run by Mu Alpha Theta, a mathematics honor society in the United States. At competitions, I take a 30-question multiple choice test. There are five choices per question, labeled A through E. My score on a test is four points for each correct answer, zer...

code-golf string

Alex A.

@Mego Hi

Anonymous

That challenge didn't have ambiguous rules when it was posted, so answers were given

Anonymous

OP changed one of the rules, invalidating at least 2 answers

Anonymous

what do

phase

@Dennis I see a lot of squares, not sure if that's just not implemented or you're using some cray cray font.

Alien G

6:32 AM

Just got done with a code-golf question :D

Alex A.

@Mego I left a comment

Alien G

Hopefully the bot announces that soon.

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Q: List numbers within given ranges

Goal: Your goal is to print out numbers within a given range (Also including given values). Input Format: The input will look like: (int-int, int-int, ...) ... meaning the user can add as many int-int as they'd like. Other Info: You will only have to handle positive integer numbers. The in...

code-golf

Alien G

There it is!

Pats bot on the back

phase

@Mego what do it do

El'endia Starman

6:43 AM

@NewMainPosts For once, a problem that Minkolang has an easy built-in for. :P

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