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7:01 PM
^^ good enough reason
 
:D
usally I correct my spelling... but not now
 
Traffic decreases quality. When all stats are full, we should down vote.
 
FYI to anyone who cares: I have a tag edit pending for stack-egg since we have the tag with no description.
 
@TheBestOne Thanks for the pointer
 
perhaps when all stats are full, we should vote the stat that we voted for the longest time ago?
to try to intercept decays
 
7:05 PM
too complex
 
we're going to need complex strats if we want to stay ahead
 
@Runer112 I like that.
And interrupt accelerating quality degradation quickly.
Then keep questions up.
 
not with the raiders around
 
The restart votes have to pass a 50/50 vote anyway.
 
theoretically, the optimal strategy seems to be always vote the stat that's about to decay
 
7:06 PM
I think the raiders left.
 
knowing which stat's about to decay, though, I don't know how to do
 
We just finished our second site, yay!
Now the tiny little beta site is #18....
 
this one will probably be qualirt
or not
 
wtf
 
You can get a net gain of one heart by using 'Close' the same round 'Questions' is going to decay. But good luck communicating that....
 
7:08 PM
1 px remaining
 
alternating start?
 
no
 
I'm convinced alternating is better now
it should prevent decays
 
is it ?
 
well
you've never seen a stat not go up when you voted for it, right?
surely on some of those days, it was destined to decay
but the increase seems to negate the decay action
 
7:09 PM
Exactly.
 
I guess we can test it now anyways
private beta isn't too critical
look at that, we got to max with no decays
I think there's definitely something to the decay intercept strategy
 
You get net gain on those.
 
in which case, we'd need to somehow rethink our other strats
 
Which is why close vote works.
at all
 
I'd think what we should do for other stages, then, is cycle through all stats that have nonzero hearts
that should best mitigate random decays
and, of course, vote for ones that are in alert
 
7:13 PM
I think question decay is fixed
 
didn't we just ask
 
We should time that.
 
someone has some data somewhere
so cycle strat? or old strat
 
lets use cycle for public beta and see
 
Quality decays fast unless it's full
 
7:14 PM
does it?
 
It seems to
 
I'm going to keep trying the cycle
 
I haven't really looked at what it does with 1 heart but it loses 2 or 3 fast
 
we'll see if others follow along
 
I figured you guys would have a robust discussion about Egg strategy over here.
pretty cool :)
 
7:16 PM
so theoretically, if quality doesn't increase this tick, we vote that next
nevermind, ask :p
 
i'm playing in the gamedev one
but someone restarted us :(
several times, apparently
 
@Almo cough
 
It might be optimal to ignore quality as much as possible until other stats are up even because the decay is so fast
 
cyclign doesnt seem to help in more than 3 options types
 
@Almo We apoligize
 
7:17 PM
What should I vote? I don't know any strats but maybe I can help against the people voting restart
 
we're trying to figure out a good strat right now
 
@WanderNauta Go with the majority unless it's restart or nothing
That is a reasonable anti-restart strat
 
noo we were supposed to answer?
 
heh
 
@John All right, thanks!
 
7:18 PM
we got lucky, no answer decay
 
@WanderNauta any time :)
 
a game with that obvious an exploit isn't much of a game, I guess :)
 
the beauty of the cycle-if-no-alert strat is that, when stats start getting high, it basically imitates the strat we already used
eh whoops, that probably should've been upvote
oh well
yep, should've been upvote lol
so I'm going to vote quality next if it doesn't decay
to try to prevent it from decaying this day
bleh, users decayed instead.. didn't we just boost that last day?
 
Sigh that sucked
 
Users decays slow once its up too should boost that
 
7:22 PM
I did at least get to watch you guys discover a new strategy improvement. Quality when all maxed.
 
why are we voting a zero stat up
 
Why re we prioritizing quality over users?
 
because it was nonzero, I think
hmm
we're not making much headway now
maybe cycle strat is no good
 
quality sucks to waste votes on early
decays too fast
 
7:26 PM
so lets top - bottom without any exceptions ?
 
Even after grad?
 
yeah
lets try once
if its faster, good
 
Deal
 
I wanted to try decay intercept strats
 
otherwise no harm, really
 
7:27 PM
downvote when everything is full
 
@Runer112 lets analyze this time keeping that in mind.
 
I think we should improve whatever we think is most likely to decay when full
 
Quality is when traffic is full.
 
After graduation, it's pretty much always quality when everything is maxed.
But before?
Vote on the on that hasn't been voted one the longest seems good.
Which is just equivalent to cycling
 
before graduation
 
7:28 PM
well, not exactly cycling if we think some decay faster than others
 
During public beta, do any of them decay faster?
 
no clue
 
I hypothesize that answers decay slower if questions are maxed.
 
not when full
 
Only because that's what the tooltip says("Too few questions also negatively affect its answers.")
 
7:31 PM
jeez, I don't seem to remember us having this much trouble maxing on other runs
 
this is where close vote would be useful after grad
 
Same here
 
if we take more than 120 days to graduate, then this always top-down is not better than top-down with exception
 
It might be best to use close if quality is down 2 and everything is full.
 
I hope I don't get banned from the chat for discussing own site strategy :-/
 
7:32 PM
me too
 
@Rainbolt It's offensive that you would think that. Flagging.
 
But only use close if answers hasn't been clicked for at least 2 rounds
 
@Geobits I wish you would. It would make me a martyr. Or a punching bag. One of the two...
 
@Geobits its offensive that you would think about flagging. Flagging
2
 
I'm offended. Starring.
 
7:32 PM
I raid your flag.
 
Bishop to E5
 
You should make a chatroom just for flagging.
 
I sink your battleship
 
Move to combat step?
 
hsl
Mousetrap!
 
7:33 PM
Rook to e5
 
Is this a fair assessment of the earlier chat?
> To those calling us griefers, cheaters, or unsportsmanlike in the comments, chat, or elsewhere, I can only say that I didn't do this in that spirit. Feel free to disagree, but I wasn't trying to "cheat". AFAICT, the general feeling in our chat room was that others would soon take notice and start getting revenge by casting votes on us. In this way it would open the game up to a more interactive inter-site rivalry.
> We figured alliances would form, and the object would be to build your egg while fending off others. There was no intent to "ruin the game", or "kill fun", at least not from anyone I talked to in chat.
 
Yes
 
I think that's true for some and not for others.
 
Yes
 
I legitimately thought the game was about raiding people. I found out pretty quickly that it wasn't, and then I decided that the game was just poorly designed.
 
7:35 PM
I figured that this was part of it, if not the main objective
 
I can only imagine that after the meta post went up, some people started raiding with negative intentions.
 
and sooner or later, others would have realized the same, better to realize ahead of them
 
we're really stuck at 13 total hearts
 
14
Boom!
 
it looks like gaming is doing cycle strats
 
7:36 PM
@Optimizer Our last graduation was at exactly 120 days?
 
13
 
@Rainbolt roughly
 
inb4 quality decay
back to 13
 
so always top down is not working - clearly
 
We'll see.
 
7:38 PM
i am having a feeling that we are stuck in circles
 
If we deviate now we don't learn anything
 
yep, we're circling again
inb4 quality decay
oh.
 
I would always hit quality before answers
 
lucky us
 
or not ..
 
7:39 PM
woo
 
took us long enough to max
sort of
 
lol
 
I think we will actually graduate just before 20 days. That's why I was asking for a real number
 
inb4 quality decay?
 
but this is simply going in circles
 
7:40 PM
nah not that day
it decayed the previous day
 
@Kevin Quality is decaying exactly as fast as the rest.
 
As far as I can tell anyway
 
seems that way to me as well
there's almost a pattern here
 
So the rules are different after grad...
 
7:41 PM
@Kevin Traffic increases quality decay
 
this turn, answers and quality will decay
 
But we knew that from the tooltip
 
Gotcha
 
oh.
 
lol
this is so weird
we were actually going in circles, b ut somehow broke the loop ?
 
7:42 PM
I think we guarded from quality decay there
 
Oh wait. If we go downvote when we are maxed out, wouldn't that negatively affect users?
 
back to this again
 
back to circle
 
I see. The downvote made users decay at the same time as questions.
 
@Rainbolt Better users than quality.
 
7:43 PM
So if we continue the cycle, questions and users will always decay at the same time
 
I predict answer and quality deca
nailed it
no decay today
d;ih
 
Hello
 
users decay'ed
 
d'oh*
 
This is awkward
 
7:44 PM
Has anyone thought about trying to restart SO?
 
no
 
Kill it with fire!
 
because that's against the rules
 
is it even going anywhere ?
SO
 
7:44 PM
aw
 
what are we thinking here
 
Your restart troll is still around?
 
102 days for beta!
:P
 
oh crap we gettin restarted
 
you're at 106
 
7:44 PM
@GiantCowFilms you did it in 102 ?
 
@Optimizer yup
 
@E.A.Wilson I got suspended for chat for a message similar to that one from six hours ago. I'd watch what you say.
 
hax
 
what SE ? what strat ?
 
If you look now we are at 105
@Optimizer Yourse mostly
 
7:45 PM
Not trying to be mean, just saying. I don't want you to be suspended like I did.
 
Full in everything except leave two on the users
 
@GiantCowFilms always top-bottom ?
 
then jsut keep up with the decay
@Optimizer not quite
 
@GiantCowFilms Did you use your flag?
 
I think we beat 120 days
 
7:45 PM
SKIP THE USERS STAT
@TheBestOne yup
we had to :/
 
Someone post the actual strat for post grad
 
I won't restart troll sorry lol
 
Please
A detailed one if you don't mind
 
Thanks Rainbolt
 
@Rainbolt Dont engourage him!!!
 
7:46 PM
@Optimizer post the strat
I trust you lol
 
I'm partial to cycle strat
 
Or runer
 
but that's a bit complicated
 
cycle then
 
and not proven
 
7:47 PM
muahahahahaha
 
We can pull it off
 
105 days adjusted for flag.
 
That troll is persistent.
 
@GiantCowFilms you used flag ?
 
So we always vote for the lowest then?
 
7:47 PM
well that was a fail, down to 3
 
I'm not sure what's going on lol
 
Who is voting answer?
 
my thought was cycle all nonzero stats, but apparently that's not what we're doing lol
 
There we go
It's happening now
 
I'd build up questions and answers, then users then make judicious use of close to get quality up.
But I have no idea
 
7:49 PM
what is this close crap
5 close?
 
no close it
We have two question hearts
 
Does close decay less if it starts at two?
 
bleh we're getting nowhere
 
Here's my priorities right now, in an effort to get it on a cycle. LEAST STARS, followed by TOPMOST STAT in the event of a tie
 
crap we're getting close raided
 
7:50 PM
Q&A > Users > Quality ^_^
 
that's like 6 closes
 
Haha ok. I'm back on the top down plan then.
 
@KevinStricker q before u
 
whatever we're doing is failing miserably
 
7:51 PM
Optimizer was right. Unity before best strat.
 
good old top-down it is
except for all the people voting answer
 
Not I
Need a designated call guy for the next one
To write out what our plan is
In simple words
 
something tells me top-down is definitely not optimal, but it's at least easy
 
Lol 4 0 0 0 0 hearts
We're on tilt
 
7:53 PM
What's going on?
 
wait a second
 
Oh man. I thought someone's avatar was ... but I clicked on the ... and suddenly I can see the rest of the users
 
do we remember how well alternating did in private beta
not a single decay occurred
what if we just alternate between the two highest, non-full stats
 
it was ok to leave quality in warning for a round
 
Anime just hit 4 wins
 
7:55 PM
close xd
 
what is with this close crap
get that garbage out of here
 
need to get traffic up
Shoulda closed
 
I'm so very confused right now.
 
Could have got 2 for the price of one
 
Two for the price of one... is the same amount we would get anyway.
We net 1 heart for every vote. And then everything decays
 
7:57 PM
Finally got rid of the troll, it seems.
 
If addresses is about to decay
 
They are slowing down, anyway.
 
that seemed to work well
 
It makes sense.
Er questions yeesh
 
It seems like it decays faster when we all do separate ones.
It seems to go up faster when we all hit the same one.
 
7:59 PM
inb4 answer decay?
bleh, ask decay
I have no idea what to do any more
 
Aww heck. We're on that cycle now
This is what we wanted
 

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