The Nineteenth Byte

DLosc

12:01 AM

@user Reminds me of

lyxal

12:41 AM

It's coming.

hyper-neutrino

just got the notification

finally, now I can sleep well at night

lyxal

@GingerIndustries @cairdcoinheringaahing @RadvylfPrograms @DLosc @user and everyone else interested:

5 minutes and 43 seconds of loud Lyxal noises.

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user

1:16 AM

Lol you actually did it

lyxal

You didn't think I was going to?

DLosc

1:46 AM

Jan 3 at 4:43, by user

I would like to torture my parents tomorrow >:)

I found just the video for you... X^D

Also @lyxal bold move to include copyrighted material... whatever will you do if you get demonetized? :P

lyxal

@DLosc jokes on you - it got claimed immediately

DLosc

Not surprising

Komali

Hi; just curious if I can submit to [kolmogorov-complexity] with this thing I’ve been making github.com/PrinceKomali/IntegerForest

it’s not Turing complete but it prints strings in a weird way; don’t know how it fits in with current regulations

DialFrost

ello

can anyone check my chalenges

in sandbox thx

DLosc

2:15 AM

@Komali As long as the interpreter on GitHub works, you're good. Interesting language!

Komali

2:31 AM

Thanks! Maybe I’ll do the 900th hello world!

Or am I too late….

emanresu A

2:58 AM

TIL typescript's cool

Radvylf Programs

Gaze in horror at my chaotic neutral PvZ strat

Symmetry is for the weak

And starfruit + spikerock is incredibly OP

PyGamer0

3:49 AM

uhh

VyxalBot just starred flax .....

@lyxal was that you, or did the bot do it by tself?

also vim-apl has more stars than flax lol

hyper-neutrino

the bot doesn't have any abilities on github, really

other than posting issues and such. and receiving webhook events

emanresu A

~~make it sentient~~

lyxal

@PyGamer0 I do a little trolling

It's funny - I'm sitting on a bus right now, and no one would have any idea that there exists a video of me screaming into my phone for 5 minutes and 43 seconds

Somehow, it almost gives me a sense of being better than everyone else on this bus.

Radvylf Programs

You are

lyxal

I doubt they've released that much loud noise themselves

Radvylf Programs

4:02 AM

Amount of loud noise recorded by a smartphone is an unambiguous measure of human achievement

lyxal

Obviously

Why else would 15 people star a petition for me to do such an otherwise questionable thing

PyGamer0

lol

lyxal

4:39 AM

Being 20 minutes early to a lecture got me feeling like big yeets yo

CMQ: How to pass 20 minutes without looking like an idiot

emanresu A

Stare at your phone

lyxal

Already doing that

Radvylf Programs

Listen to caramelldansen 5.7 times

lyxal

If I was going to go down the music route, I'd have just listened to some of the worst beats ever created #23

But I'm bored of music too

Radvylf Programs

Lukewarm take: Homeschooling is absolutely idiotic and should be illegal

lyxal

4:45 AM

Why is it idiotic?

Radvylf Programs

(All of this from a US perspective but) parents absolutely are not qualified to teach every subject, even if they had the best interests in mind. From what I've heard and experienced, Homeschooling is typically chosen by parents so they can indoctrinate their children with religious, anti-science, anti-government, racist, politically polarized, or otherwise biased information.

And in the US, there is essentially zero oversight for homeschooled students. There's often not even a way to verify the students are learning anything at all, let alone whether or not what they're being taught is accurate

School also provides exposure to differing viewpoints and cultures, which even ignoring the typical demographics and viewpoints of parents who choose homeschooling, is very important and not going to be provided by homeschooling

Radvylf Programs

5:02 AM

And sure, sometimes people are homeschooled by competent parents who just want to provide the best education possible for their children. But I still think that's problematic. It's only really viable for those who can afford to have one parent stay home 24/7 (and of course, those who have two parents in the first place), so it has the same segregation-by-another-name effect as private schools.

And I'm not saying that to imply that parents who choose homeschooling are opting into that basically-segregation, since I don't think that's necessarily true. It's more that instead of providing funding and regulation necessary to make public schools better, federal and state governments just give people options...options which can only be exercised by part of the population.

emanresu A

There are those kids who can't physically go to school

Radvylf Programs

E.g., the majority of school funding comes from local property taxes, rather than being equitably distributed across the state/country. Or, giving students the ability to choose which school they go to, which leads to a snowball effect where different demographic groups are associated with different schools.

@emanresuA That's a special case though.

And there can still be oversight required rather than just giving parents free rein

It'd still be home schooling, but not Homeschooling

DialFrost

can anyone check my sandbox posts

thx

most of them have got downvotes

and no comments

especially this one codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2140/…

which is new

Radvylf Programs

5:19 AM

These seem to almost all be plagiarised

codingame.com/training/hard/a-game-of-go

You can't just copy someone else's challenge

It's fine to take the concept of the challenge, but you've taken entire paragraphs, the structures of the challenges' bodies, and in some cases it seems like just a direct copy-paste.

Unrelated String

5:32 AM

@lyxal i totally forgot about those holy shit

a friend showed me a few a couple months ago but we were somehow hanging out in person and my memory is completely offloaded into discord message history

emanresu A

6:13 AM

what

lyxal

6:39 AM

> APL provides many powerful operators (and a
large number of new symbols), allowing complex
computations to be written in a compact program but at the cost of poor readability

Looks like my lecturer is a heathen

Unrelated String

😔

reminds me i'm in a machine learning class this semester and every time the professor makes a point of calling the iverson bracket the "indicator function" i die a bit inside

lyxal

Yikes

Unrelated String

...also reminds me for some reason he notates the kronecker delta as y

forget what name he uses for it but it's really disorienting to see it written as y

pxeger

@NewPosts @WheatWizard Why did you delete this? Because people kept answering invalidly?

Also I just realised my answer is invalid for another reason: if the forbidden word is 1 2, and the RNG generates 1 1 2 2, then it will remove the inner 1 2 but end up with 1 2 from the outer bits, which is still forbidden

Unrelated String

f

pxeger

6:49 AM

(actually there were only 2 answers, so probably not because people kept answering invalidly)

lyxal

7:05 AM

Another bus full of nerds who haven't ever released a 5 minute screaming video

The superiority is real

graffe

7:46 AM

CMQ given a text file, how can you compute the average line length from the bash command line? (Obviously the more golfed the better)

emanresu A

@lyxal Imagine what he'd think of Vyxal

lyxal

I know right

graffe

Maybe should have been CMC ?

lyxal

@emanresuA here were my notes on another topic:

emanresu A

At least Vyxal has #2

lyxal

7:54 AM

Uh...

About that...

emanresu A

We have a few duplicate ops and )}]; but aside from that, there's pretty much one thing for everything.

lyxal

github.com/Vyxal/Vyxal/issues/516

We have a few more

pxeger

@graffe Zsh, 27 bytes: set `wc -ml`;<<<$[$2/$1.-1]

should work in Bash too, if you change <<< to echo

graffe

@pxeger wow I don’t know zshl. It doesn’t look like bash but maybe it would work?

emanresu A

@graffe cat f > vyxal vLṁ ea

Requires Vyxal installed

(Untested)

pxeger

7:58 AM

@graffe if you want input from a file, change wc -ml to wc -ml<my_file

graffe

@pxeger your tio has bash but execute never terminates it seems

pxeger

@graffe can't reproduce

graffe

What does <<< do?

pxeger

print

but it only works in zsh, not bash

it's 2 bytes shorter than echo

graffe

Does execute work for you?

pxeger

8:02 AM

@pxeger actually, this doesn't work in Bash, because it doesn't have floating-point arithmetic

@graffe yes, works fine

try a hello world in Bash?

PyGamer0

@lyxal what?! APL is very readable.

emanresu A

Everything is readable to those who understand i

PyGamer0

exactly

emanresu A

Except maybe Malbolge

PyGamer0

lmao

pxeger

8:05 AM

Why do people pretend that APL is readable (other than because they're paid to)? It objectively is not very readable to people who don't know APL, whereas Python looks a lot more like pseudocode and a lot more like English, so it is objectively more readable even to those who don't know Python

PyGamer0

@pxeger looks at people who dont know english

graffe

@pxeger everyone agrees but for some people it’s just fun to code in APL

pxeger

I'm not gonna deny that it's fun lol

PyGamer0

TMN is not readable to people who dont know math.

emanresu A

See this conversation

Sep 1 '21 at 20:29, by user

caird would say Jelly is quite readable, DLosc would say Pip is readable, Leo would say Husk is readable, even though they're all unreadable to people like me

PyGamer0

8:10 AM

TMN is also inconsistent at times

sin²(x) vs sin⁻¹(x)

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