@RadvylfPrograms the true name of Ba'Al the Soul-Eater

@DLosc Unfortunately I don't really have a choice, I'm not going to be able to find another ~40 characters that fit my other criteria

Yeah, makes sense

ʂ when you write an s with a pen

Other than that, mainly nitpicks: why is Çç not next to the other upper-lower pairs, why are ¢¥ not with the other currency symbols, why are ¡ and ¿ neither next to each other nor one above the other, why is Ð not with the other letters, why Ð but no ð

I like how ¹ and ² are 1 and 2 :)

@DLosc you can't have ¡ above ! if you want ¹ there

@pxeger I meant ¡ above ¿

And only just now do I see how their positioning (almost) mimics that of ! and ?

@DLosc That's many of the same issues I have with the code page right now. I'll probably do some rearranging of the first two rows and the Çç part in row f

Interesting that \n and ¶ are two different things

this might be too out there, but I don't think your codepage needs to be 100% printable-ASCII compatible

e.g. tictac removes space and newline, which have no syntactic function, because you only need them when debugging

@DLosc Really? I thought only Jelly did that

use a 255-char codepage and make everyone hate you

I've also considered just removing backtick and backslash because they're, respectively, hard to write in markdown, and annoying to escape

@pxeger Spaces were meaningful in Ash, same with newlines, so I'll likely do that with ispshor

I also like how you didn't include any extra es where you could help it lol

@RadvylfPrograms I may be biased by looking at the codepage of one of my WIP languages recently, which synonymizes \n and ¶ :P

@pxeger Oh, I just now noticed that X^D

But Æ挜

Skipping Stones solution: NfL←¹x⁰w©↠←;;M

it may say something about Dynalist that the only duplicated character in that solution is the "end block" one.

fun fact: dyads are used about half as often as monads in Jelly

(more precisely, lowercase letters are used 0.565 times as often as uppercase letters)

@pxeger double curly quotes are nice but i'm two and a half years down the jelly hole and still can't reliably tell ‘’ apart quickly

another good point

which is very unfortunate considering for both things they do you could reasonably expect either of them half the time

being either increment/decrement as atoms or codepoint-list/base-250-number as string terminators

@pxeger What's the most used character?

i think they're reasonably easy to tell apart from ' more so than each other but in jelly's case it helps that you almost never see '

(I'm guessing € or +)

@emanresuA You should check out my atoms.md that has the usage counts next to each atom

There's a link somewhere

the 12 most common are €$;Œ“21ịS+μD

although I'm a little suspicious of “

there's also an ngram thing

Hm okay

gist.github.com/Radvylf/dc4af4bcca4f0dcf83395a7506d2afcf

...£???

@UnrelatedString oops, typo

@RadvylfPrograms This has string literals filtered out

that's a relief

kind of surprised there isn't more “ assuming this didn't try to filter strings out

Is there a Unicode character that looks like SP (maybe on a diagonal)?

Yeah

␠

Same block as the NL one

on a diagonal? probably

nice

compart.com/en/unicode/block/U+2400

Thanks. Googling "Unicode sp" and similar just gave me the actual space character. :P

phenomenal

stupidly clunky chess square color solution: ?:w‽⦂=1:ÇL⌕;;⊕∤;"light""dark"

pretty interesting how the Skipping Stones problem, which is arguably harder, has a much shorter solution in Dynalist than the chess one

@GingerIndustries Challenge?

The message below me will become my chat bio

I love vyxal

hah

ok

better than I love vyxal

@GingerIndustries Vyxal go brr

>:(

hah

> Don't forget to cite your sources! Please use MLA format for citations.

Can't escape citing sources even in fricking latin class

So if I add 8 facts...

@RadvylfPrograms Do said facts have to be relevant?

Presumably lol

"Charlemagne was a ruler during [time period]. Under his rule [stuff happened]. Vyxal is dank. Charlemagne's name came from [...]"

If you filled in the [...] part, that might actually be somewhat relevant to Latin.

Charlmagne's name came from Vyxal because Vyxal is cool

Challenge idea: Shift a string right by 1 bit

TFW the TIO link you want to post is 2x the maximum chat message size :/

tinyurl.com

The single line limit or the big limit

Or similar

@RadvylfPrograms TIL

@RadvylfPrograms Character info

@emanresuA Dynalist, 3 bytes: Ilk

@emanresuA also if this doesn't already exist I hereby reserve the right to make it

in other words "dibs"

@DLosc It's fun (if potentially a bit confusing) how on TIO the diaereses of the capital vowels on the bottom row line up with the underdots of the letters on the row above them to make perfect little dot-triangles.

@emanresuA As in, treat the bytes of the string as a single long bitstring, shift-right, and re-interpret the resulting bytes as a string again?

@DLosc tringle

@DLosc well if that's the case then still 3 bytes: b≫S

@DLosc Yep

@GingerIndustries Those are som equite overspecific buuiltins

@emanresuA what

@GingerIndustries "Split into chunks of 8 and get charcodes"

→ 36 messages moved to Tanks

Middle clicking to close tabs is a ton of fun on a touchpad

because after you start needing three fingers for touchpad gestures you feel like a wizard

Ooh TIL swiping with three fingers switches tabs

Considering making certain optimizations mandatory for ispshor implementations, like detecting some golfy-but-very-slow filter-permutations patterns and running them slightly faster than O(n!) or whatever

Why mandatory? Just do it yourself in your implementation.

Hmm, true

@RadvylfPrograms On my laptop, you can swipe with four fingers to switch windows, it's similar to using alt+tab except that instead of the little window menu it has a super smooth animation of the window sliding to the side, and it's really satisfying

On chromebooks that switches desks

@AaroneousMiller i have that and I can confirm it's the best thing ever

@RadvylfPrograms You swipe with four fingers and switch desks with the student next to you

@RadvylfPrograms wait so it just swaps you and the guy sitting next to you?

ninja'd

ninja'd

dang it

meta-ninja'd

@emanresuA Assuming UTF-16 for convenience: s=>((r=s.replace(/./g,c=>c.charCodeAt().toString(2).padStart(16,0))).at(-1)+r).replace(/.{16}/g,b=>String.fromCharCode("0b"+b))

@emanresuA Aaand discovered another bug in Pip. :P

@emanresuA By shift you mean rotate, right? Or do we discard a bit somewhere

Your choice

@DLosc Imagine having only a few bugs

And preumably you have to read the new string from the right not the left, otherwise s=>s.slice(0,-1) works I think

@emanresuA I mean, I only started using the GitHub issue tracker less than a year ago. Before that, I kept a list of TODOs as comments at the top of pip.py ;P

Oh lol

I just realised, sloc parses HTML with regex

@GingerIndustries it's only by 2 if you ignore having to encode the strings

but that's less

> much shorter

still interesting though

@UnrelatedString oops

no docs

yet

nice

also no functional interpreter yet

I'm making all these solutions to figure out what instructions to add

smart

thx

well, there is an interpreter, but it doesn't work very well

...also any particular reason it's only on repl.it

no

i just like repl.it

@UnrelatedString it does, but I broke it for the APOL repo

nice

@GingerIndustries Truth-machine in my language-in-progress Vigor: Ẏḷ№₀1

@DLosc Truth-machine in my language-in-progress Truth Machine++: t

idea: language where the only character is a space and the number of spaces gets used as the seed for a random number generator that is used to generate the program code

@GingerIndustries Which one is the pretty-print list challenge? Question search is not helping me.

codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/242999/… ?

@DLosc this (also that's a sucky version of that program)

Aha. Funny how SE search doesn't realize list ~= array

Oh, shoot, that's a new question. I thought it would be an old one.

@DLosc imagine not having 305 closed issues

And imagine not having 354 merged pull requests

can't have issues if you don't got a repo

@lyxal No imagination required

Alternate response: imagine not having 305 closed issues

@DLosc im agine not having 305 clo s ed iss u e s

bad idea #55625377228: TNB NFTs

is it?

Could be

hm

tnb nfts are just screenshots of that message being linked to over and over again

here's #3:

buy your TNB NFTs now

we have 3 for sale

Like that?

@lyxal yup

but with the "this could be an nft" message instead

now we just sit back and wait for the money to roll in

...

no money is rolling in, I think we're doing it wrong

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

@GingerIndustries I'll pay up to ¤0.05 for one of those

@DLosc oh boy, i've always wanted 0.05 targeting reticles!

You'll have to come get it in person, tho, I don't want to give out my credit card info

@DLosc problem: I don't know where you live

hmm

how much is ¤ worth rn

$NaN

hmm

i don't think i can buy very much with that

Well, you can buy NaN apples, or NaN gallons of gasoline

hmmmm

does anyone here happen to have some crypto

according to google you need crypto to make nft

@GingerIndustries I have this crypto, does that help?

wrong kind

oh well

I have 110ish pi network credits

Can't do much with em

what that

@GingerIndustries Pi is a new digital currency developed by Stanford PhDs, with over 25 million members worldwide. To claim your Pi, follow this link minepi.com/TheMiner6969 and use my username (TheMiner6969) as your invitation code.

hmm

@lyxal oh it's real I thought that was a shitpost

brb

@GingerIndustries I just happened to chose a dank username

@AaroneousMiller My laptop requires only three fingers for that *significant look of superiority*

In the aftermath of an alligator attack, at least I'll be able to quickly switch from some game to classwork if a teacher walks by my laptop :P

Alligator attack? Where tf are you? Florida?!

No, but I see lots of people drinking Gatorade around here, so there must be alligators somewhere in the area

And those gators can't be too happy about having juice made out of them

I'd be pretty ornery if someone chopped me up, put me in a blender, and turned me into userade

@lyxal Btw, want to have a match of Tanks? Owing to my recent lobster attack, I am using autoshoot and autoaim, but both are poorly implemented so you should be okay

Let me get my computer

I might be open to a few rounds

Noice

What link?

redwolfprograms.com/tanks