The Nineteenth Byte

Ginger Industries

1:07 PM

yo im back

lyxal

no, you're Ginger Industries

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Ginger Industries

@lyxal you've heard of GrubHub Perks, now get ready for GitHub Perks

I am the owner of GitHub Perks

lyxal

@GingerIndustries that actually already unironically exists

so that's a yesn't from me

Ginger Industries

@lyxal That's a cheap knockoff for college students. I've got the REAL DEAL

lemme find a screenshot

lyxal

I found one for you

Ginger Industries

1:11 PM

@lyxal I found one for you

lyxal

@GingerIndustries No, I did.

(I drew it by hand on my touchscreen in MS Paint)

@lyxal No, I did.

Mine's better

@lyxal Mine's better

yikes that's a big image

why the extra red dots?

haha you screwed up first

meaning I win

meaning I'm free to go sleep now

goodnight y'all alexa hoodieless nerds. (use the transcript for context)

o/

Ginger Industries

1:20 PM

@lyxal no I didn't

what red dots?

@mathcat hey guess what I got

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GitHub Perks

mathcat

woah

Ginger Industries

the only thing that can counter SE Nitro

and butter

besides butter

what can it do?

1:29 PM

@mathcat hmmmm

mathcat

try it out!

Ginger Industries

you can use GitHub Copilot on IRL objects

mathcat

what's copilot?

Ginger Industries

AI-powered code formatting tool

mathcat

nice

and IRL?

Ginger Industries

1:32 PM

Thug: Hand over your money!
Me: Not so fast. Get REFORMATTED!
Thug: I feel different
Me: HAHA! You are now PEP-8 compliant!

hmmmmmmm

mathcat

ooh

nice

Ginger Industries

What the hell happened here

mathcat

now fix some real-life security exploit

Ginger Industries

@mathcat IRL Dependabot lets you scan for outdated infrastructure

sometimes it's one of those days when your Internet is at 2 bytes per second and the outside temperature is -0 degrees

lyxal

@GingerIndustries I should be asleep rn, but this is hilarious

Ginger Industries

1:37 PM

@lyxal GitHub Perks lets you open issues on physical objects

lyxal

You walk up to someone and say // send this person to the shadow realm and it just be like // TODO: send person to shadow realm

Ginger Industries

See a pothole? Start a pull request

New Posts

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Q: Squishy vectors

If we have a list of integers we can "squish" one of them by: decrementing it replacing adjacent values with its new value For example in this list: [1,2,8,3,6] If we squish the 8 we get: [1,7,7,7,6] The question is given a starting array what is the largest we can make its sum by repeatedly ...

Ginger Industries

@lyxal and it just floats over their head for the rest of eternity

lyxal

@GingerIndustries needs 2 reviews from people with write access, needs to pass 5 checks and comments have been locked because it's too heated

Ginger Industries

1:38 PM

@lyxal when your apartment building fails GitHub Actions' formatting checks

lyxal

@GingerIndustries I say this because similar things have happened while using copilot

The useless comment part

Not the sending people to the shadow realm part

I don't need AI to do that

Ginger Industries

@lyxal I wouldn't be surprised

@lyxal wait what

lyxal

You heard me.

And with that I'm leaving to actually go sleep

Ginger Industries

@lyxal no, that's my job

mathcat

o.o

Ginger Industries

1:40 PM

hello caird

lyxal

@GingerIndustries too bad I just took it

o/

caird coinheringaahing

@GingerIndustries \o

Ginger Industries

brb

mathcat

brb

no actually

bbalt

PyGamer0

bbaltman

Ginger Industries

1:51 PM

I am back

46 mins ago, by lyxal

no, you're Ginger Industries

thejonymyster

@taRadvylfsriksushilani theres still the chance that its a very plane shaped data set

(also: loving the splash of red in your pfp)

Ginger Industries

@thejonymyster It's a llama

caird coinheringaahing

@thejonymyster I feel old - there are TNB users who don't know that Redwolf's original pfp was red :P

user

@Razetime Here's what I got in Haskell, but I don't know if there's anything to interleave in Husk

Ginger Industries

@cairdcoinheringaahing I know this because that's been their GitHub PFP as long as I've known

caird coinheringaahing

2:04 PM

@user You can zipwith pair, then flatten

user

Yeah but that's annoying and takes more than one character :(

Wheat Wizard

@user It's called intercalate

user

Ah

No intercalate in Husk either

Wheat Wizard

Oh it's intercalate in Haskell I don't know anything about Husk.

user

Oh

thejonymyster

2:05 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing well im new to the site, not to this world. im sure youre exactly as old as you need to be

caird coinheringaahing

@thejonymyster Indeed, I'm very old

Ginger Industries

@cairdcoinheringaahing as the Oracle of Truth I have existed for an indefinite amount of time

user

@Razetime Best I could get is Θƒ(ȯtSoΣzem¬:0 but it's 14 bytes and very ugly

Ginger Industries

brb

Razetime

@user huh that is fat

user

2:20 PM

The part I don't like is having to do tail at the end of the function inside fix and then prepend a default value before outputting

I think omega could make that better actually

PyGamer0

@cairdcoinheringaahing lmao

user

Weird, I feel like this should do the same thing but it just hangs. Am I using ω wrong?

PyGamer0

i looks weird seeing redwolf with his original pfp

Razetime

@user hm might help

@user ⍵ needs a finite fixpoint

user

Oh that sucks

PyGamer0

2:23 PM

also fun fact: python has zipWith

caird coinheringaahing

It's just called map :P

PyGamer0

even haskell has a map right?

user

"Even"?

Razetime

i mean, haskell is pretty much the industry standard fp language

user

When I think of map, Haskell is one of the first languages that comes to mind

Wheat Wizard

2:25 PM

Haskell has at least 3 maps I can think og.

user

And any FP language worth its salt has map

PyGamer0

ok so python borrowed haskell's map

@WheatWizard and they are?

Wheat Wizard

map, fmap, liftM

user

mapM?

PyGamer0

zipWith?

Wheat Wizard

2:25 PM

mapM is not a map.

user

Ah

Wheat Wizard

liftA is a also a map.

zipWith is not a map.

PyGamer0

hm, is zipWith similar to python map?

well redwolf's pfp is too red

Wheat Wizard

python map is a couple of things haphazardly bolted together.

One of those things is zipWith.

PyGamer0

-_'

user

2:27 PM

map being a class always surprises me

Wheat Wizard

Haskell has a different map2 called liftA2.

PyGamer0

how is python map different from haskell zipWith and map?

Wheat Wizard

Well it's like a bunch of functions glued together.

user

I thought Python's map was just both of them in one?

You could call it more powerful or whatever

Wheat Wizard

It's also zipWith3.

PyGamer0

2:29 PM

why does haskell have so many things

Wheat Wizard

?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

MORNING MOTHERF*****S

Wheat Wizard

Haskell has a normal amount of things.

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user

@taRadvylfsriksushilani Hey, that's my line!

Wheat Wizard

Haskell's fmap is way more powerful than Python's map.

(and liftA and liftM too)

user

2:30 PM

@PyGamer0 If you're asking why it has multiple functions instead of one map to rule them all, I guess it's because it's statically typed and can't do varargs like Python

Wheat Wizard

It can do varargs if you want it to. But varargs are usually a bad idea anyway.

PyGamer0

oh

@WheatWizard why?

user

@WheatWizard Like, real varargs or taking inputs in a list?

Wheat Wizard

@user Real varargs.

user

Oh, not sure how to feel about that

oic, you just keep returning a function

That's less cursed than what I thought it'd turn out to be

Wheat Wizard

2:34 PM

@PyGamer0 Most uses of varargs are either better attained with e.g. a list or with separate functions. It just is more clear what you are doing. In this case, as I alluded to earlier, there are multiple completely valid ways to extend the idea of a map to more than 1 argument. Rather than choosing one arbitrarily it is better to have them be separate functions with clear names.

PyGamer0

whoa TIL that map can take multiple arguments

im dumb

i thought it could just take 2 args, a function and an iterable

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Okay uh...I might not be at the right class

I think today's a B day

Okay good other people are here, phew

user

Gotta love that anxiety when you're the first person in the classroom and you don't know if you're supposed to be there

PyGamer0

lol

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

TIL CSS lets you specify colors in radians

user

2:39 PM

What does that even do?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Well, I half lied. it has to be in hsl, hwb, oklch, etc.

caird coinheringaahing

Looking back, this is kinda cute :P

"There are now more than 20 users [on SO] with over 10,000 points. To me that's no longer meaningful."

user

Oh boy, wait till this person meets Jon Skeet

caird coinheringaahing

See the top answer :P

user

lol

Honestly rep doesn't even matter after a point. I know a kid who got 20k+ rep on SO in the last couple years somehow

But he probably just posts multiple times every day, so it isn't too meaningful

caird coinheringaahing

2:48 PM

I think rep only really matters below 20k (at an absolute max), and even then, it mostly matters if you want to help in the moderation of the site

Wheat Wizard

@cairdcoinheringaahing I mean they have changed the reputation awards pretty significantly.

Both questions and answer votes are now worth more than they were back then.

caird coinheringaahing

The "beginner bundle" of privileges, such as commenting, meta participation, CW etc. is important. Editing at 2k is then the last "essential" privilege for easy use of the site. Everything else can be ignored if you're only here to ask and answer

@WheatWizard Q upvotes were originally 10 rep, I can't remember exactly when they changed to 5, but I think it was around 2009/10

PyGamer0

Feedback?

mathcat

3:18 PM

@taRadvylfsriksushilani did you get that from GPT?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

No

CSS lets you specify the hue component of HSL, HWB, and OKLCH using radians

mathcat

no not that i guess

@taRadvylfsriksushilani this

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Oh, no, but it was a similar thing

I'll see if I can find a link in the transcripr

Bored of crispr? Try transcripr

I think it's this

incorrect-quotes-generator.neocities.org

Bgil Midol

Is main = do [(i,j) | i <- [1..20], j <- [1..20], i<j] valid haskell syntax?

user

3:41 PM

@BgilMidol Replace the do with print and I think it works

It is valid syntax already though

Bgil Midol

thanks

Ginger Industries

hello

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Hi!

I doubt it's being updates though given it's on neocities

Ginger Industries

brb (again)

user

@GingerIndustries You don't have to announce it, I promise we can get along just fine even if you're not here :P

Ginger Industries

3:50 PM

@user ;-;

Fmbalbuena

I like to nominate Best explanation for codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/240619/106959.

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

@Fmbalbuena Then edit in a nomination :p

Fmbalbuena

Because explains two things

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

You just need to add a link to the post, say that you nominated it, and describe why you did.

Fmbalbuena

@taRadvylfsriksushilani Can you generate?

Wheat Wizard

3:51 PM

@Fmbalbuena That's from this year.

Fmbalbuena

@WheatWizard oops thanks.

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

4:19 PM

→ 94 messages moved to The Edge of Propinquity

(That'll invite a few uninvolved people who had commented on the noise, sorry about that)

Fmbalbuena

4:37 PM

CMC: Expand if there is a Truthy number in the border of the board

Test cases:

[[1, 1, 1], [1, 1, 1], [1, 1, 1]]

=>

[[0, 0, 0, 0, 0], [0, 1, 1, 1, 0], [0, 1, 1, 1, 0], [0, 1, 1, 1, 0], [0, 0, 0, 0, 0]]

[[0, 0, 0], [0, 1, 0], [0, 0, 0]]

=>

[[0, 0, 0], [0, 1, 0], [0, 0, 0]]

Adám

Wait, what do you mean by "expand"?

Fmbalbuena

see the first test case

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

x=>x[0].some(f=y=>y)||x.at(-1).some(f)||x.some(y=>y[0]||y.at(-1))?(a=[...x[0]]).fill(0).concat(x.map(y=>[0,...y,0],a),]:x

Adám

That doesn't quite explain it either.

I think you mean that for each edge (N/S/E/W) add a layer of 0s if there's a 1 there. Correct?

Fmbalbuena

because this is CMC but i have to gtg (please do in Python (I still like APL (I learned a lot of Python)))

Adám

4:46 PM

@Fmbalbuena APL, 17: {0,⍣(∨/⊣⌿⍵)⍉⌽⍵}⍣4 Try it online!

New Posts

4:58 PM

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Q: Shanghai ascii game sticks

Remove one stick and output the stack updated. Description You can remove only sticks on top( completely drawn). You can assume: there are 5 sticks on the table. there's one and only one stick you can remove. sticks are recognizable : there aren't overlapping sticks on the same orientation and t...

code-golf ascii-art path-finding

Ginger Industries

back

pxeger

5:14 PM

forwards

DLosc

@Adám This is... not easy in Pip. :P Current best attempt is 11 bytes and uses (of all things) a regex replacement: a@^J,5R2_Xb

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

var Actor = conn.init();

var Conn = actor.init();

This took me 20m to figure out

Unrelated String

phenomenal

DLosc

@taRadvylfsriksushilani Uh, wut?

Ginger Industries

Presenting the most monumentally stupid piece of APOL code I have ever made:

v(0 s(i));v(1 []);w(≠(⁰ ¹) v(1 ⁰) f(¹ ?(>(⊕(⁰) ⊕(S(S(S(¹ -(g(¹ ∈) 1) ∈) ¿(-(∈ 1) -(g(¹ ∈) 1) g(¹ ∈)) -(∈ 1)) ¿(≠(+(∈ 1) l(⋒)) -(g(¹ ∈) 1) g(¹ ∈)) +(∈ 1)))) v(0 S(S(S(¹ -(g(¹ ∈) 1) ∈) ¿(-(∈ 1) -(g(¹ ∈) 1) g(¹ ∈)) -(∈ 1)) ¿(≠(+(∈ 1) l(⋒)) -(g(¹ ∈) 1) g(¹ ∈)) +(∈ 1))))));⁰

That's my solution for the "squishy vectors" problem

DLosc

5:24 PM

@GingerIndustries It looks repetitive, but I don't speak APOL yet. What makes it monumentally stupid?

Ginger Industries

@DLosc that it's repetitive

APOL is really not designed for complex problems

DLosc

Aha

Ginger Industries

it also is broken, but I'm working on that

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

For a golfing-oriented language, APOL sure has a lot of whitespace

Ginger Industries

@taRadvylfsriksushilani It's a golfing language for learning about golfing languages kinda

it's simple but somewhat compact

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

5:27 PM

Alright, logging time, yayyy

DLosc

@cairdcoinheringaahing Oof, I really want to see some nominations for Best Explanation--that's one of the categories that deserves more recognition, IMO. I haven't been active enough lately to remember any off the top of my head, though. Maybe I can put together a SEDE query to look for long posts...

Ginger Industries

Pros: code doesn't crash now
Cons: [2, 2, 2] -> -28

:/

thejonymyster

thought: [atomic-code-bowling] :P

thejonymyster

5:45 PM

how dumb would it be to put a bounty on this question about symmetric hexagons for answering in hexagony with a symmetric hexagon of src code

5

im guessing >50% stupid

Ginger Industries

@thejonymyster this is an excellent idea

thejonymyster

1 star and ill do it

wait i cant star my own message

that was gonna be the joke

Wezl - y izl

Jan 7 at 2:48, by Wezl - a cautionary tale

It's like they think self-esteem is a bad quality

pxeger

lol

Ginger Industries

@thejonymyster >:)

pxeger

5:51 PM

@taRadvylfsriksushilani like how TLS certificate issuing works? Not a bad idea

Sandbox Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Approximate Euler's Number Euler's number (e) is one of the most well-known mathematical constants, with a simple way to approximate it. All you have to do is repeatedly generate a random number between 0 and 1, and add it to an accumulator. Record how many times you have to do this for the accum...

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

I think so, not fully sure how TLS cert issuing works. Here's some stuff I wrote about my idea

Ginger Industries

@taRadvylfsriksushilani oh yea, MINECRAFTER!

pxeger

@taRadvylfsriksushilani catchy name lol

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

The fun part is pronouncing it as one syllable

thejonymyster

5:54 PM

let the games begin

Ginger Industries

Jan 7 at 17:32, by Ginger Industries

@RedwolfPrograms If you make it Semi-Decentralized Secure and Anonymous Fast Transaction Ledger then the acronym can be MINECRAFTER

user

@thejonymyster If you feel like ruining someone's life by making them work on a Hexagony answer, go ahead :P

New Bounties With No Deadlines

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A: List of bounties with no deadline

500 reps for answering Is this hexagon symmetric? in Hexagony... with symmetric source code "Symmetric source code" here is defined roughly as follows: replace all the nops in your program with 0s, and all the non-nops in your programs with 1s. When this string of 0s and 1s is input into your pro...