NaN++ being valid syntax is super weird

Ohh, it's because you can do NaN = xyz and it's valid

So undefined++ works too

But not null or true

But being able to do NaN = xyz is also weird

I think it's a bug that got carried over

The undefined one definitely is IIRC

I don't think either are allowed in strict mode

My guess is that it hasn't been fixed because there's some bit of code out there which uses NaN = value :/

It doesn't actually assign though

Somehow, that's worse

I mean python 2 let you do True, False = False, True lol

Isn't Python supposed to be normal?

@cairdcoinheringaahing that looks good to me

I don't think it ever let you do None = value

TBF null = xyz doesn't work

Python 1 did, nvm

Same with all other keywords to my knowledge

@hyper-neutrino Yeah, assigning to keywords is bad. Allowing that, but not actually assigning is worse IMO

lol, yeah

Python 2 didn't let you assign to None

updated first-time asker modal

@RedwolfPrograms More normaler than JS maybe, but definitely not normal

Pretty sure Jelly is the most normal language

No, it errors

That's bad

Basically every time we've found a wtf behaviour in Jelly, we've thought it through and it makes sense :P

Brainfuck is the most normal language :p

Wait no, the weird differences in implementations make it kind of unnormal

Can we...uh...count JSON?

It's nice and normal!

Turing machines are the only normal languages :P

@cairdcoinheringaahing every jelly behavior is "I don't understand how it works this way" not "I don't understand why it works this way"

like wondering why ) works that way is down to not understanding and being able to figure it out ourselves

@hyper-neutrino Ok, can we formally request that Catija pushes this to PubPlat then?

@hyper-neutrino Barring the odd bug :P

wondering why JS "types" work the way they do is just "wtf i give up"

last chance for more suggestions or feedback to the first time asker dialog before I ping a CM to push the request

ngl, I both love and hate the fact that it takes 15 rounds of community approval to get something done here :P

On the one hand, it shows people care. On the other hand, my god is it tiring to discuss minor wordings for an hour when I just want to get something completed :P

it's like government but without the expenses

can't even give yourself thousands of pounds in biscuits smh

It's a good thing that the active / top members of this community disagree so often and discuss everything too - on top of people caring, it also makes sure we don't move too quickly to push a change that ends up hurting the rest of the community just because the minority of active people agreed to it.

Ironic given that half of us are a hivemind :P

but yeah, I see why SE takes 6-8 weeks to do anything :P

I say we should implement a filibuster button on meta that basically just freezes discussion for a week :P

And makes random noises whenever someone opens the discussion :P