@cairdcoinheringaahing Oh yeah? Then why can't people follow the rules of grammar if it's designed to be interpreted by people easily? Checkmate grammarians
Does anyone else find it weird that people often mess up grammar despite grammar being made by people? Why don't we change grammar to fit how people speak?
I can accept conjugation to indicate tense / mood (and even then I think attachments to the root or particles are better) but do we really need "I am", "You are", "He is"?
@cairdcoinheringaahing but the second "to" was part of the infinitive form "to use", not "(try to) (use)", so it shouldn't be doubled because the latter verb is already in the infinitive form
well, English (and most languages - at least the same thing sounds wrong if I transliterate into Mandarin) have a formal adjective order and it's objectively wrong misuse that order
Quite a bit of what I and others say is just subconsciously continuing bits of phrases I've heard often before, with only the general idea being consciously thought about
yeah... I explained it to my friend who'd been in immersion IIRC and they never knew about that or even what transitivity was until I explained it to them within the past like year or two
Ironically, I think my English grammar is better than most of my peers (at least I can explain the rules behind things and why certain sentences are wrong) because I didn't grow up in a primarily English household, so I had to learn these things manually alongside through exposure/immersion at school.
I feel like teachers are unnecessarily concerned about not "complicating" things with technical grammar, but (at least for me) it would have been much more helpful
@pxeger thing is if a method is too complex one can just stick to using the simpler version, but hiding the real rules and making it some arbitrary list of verbs to use etre with is... bad IMO
@AviFS yes, my parents are immigrants and I was born in the US
@Adám That's impressive. What decade does that go back to? My understanding is that Hebrew only started being spoken again as a native language in the late 1800s.
i grew up with mandarin, my mom grew up with mandarin, my dad grew up with mandarin, and all four of my grandparents also with mandarin, and probably all eight of my great grandparents, and honestly probably as far back as realistically traceable :P
It's always a bit annoying when everyone starts talking about how different their families are and mine is basically "We've lived in the same country and spoke the same language from ~1000 years"
my entire extended family as far as I know (except one family in Toronto who isn't actually genetically related to me, technically) speaks Mandarin as their first language and varying amounts of English
My entire family pretty much just speaks Marathi, although on my mom's side, they also speak Konkani and Malvani, which are kinda dialects of Marathi anyway
@DLosc It is kinda cool that I know exactly which knight crossed the Channel and fought in the Battle of Hastings back in 1066 that was related to me :P
@AviFS My wife's mother is American. Her father's family (Goldman) is Argentinian. My oldest son is Aaron, named after my wife's father's father's father's father's father
@cairdcoinheringaahing That is cool. The furthest I can trace is to the first Jew that arrived from Portugal (via Holland) after the expulsion from Spain in 1492.
@Adám Sounds like Baron Hirsch's doing! My grandma is also from Buenos Aires; her family came from Poland to Las Colonia. That's the main reason we speak Spanish at home. Although she's very fluent in multiple languages and we usually talk to her in English these days, haha
@cairdcoinheringaahing No way! That's way cool!! Knights and swords and shining armor and dragons and kings and princesses :p (I feel like if I were describing any other culture, that'd be construed as racist, haha)
@AviFS Knights and swords, sure. Armour generally wasn't shiny (more "covered in mud and shit" :P), dragons aren't native to the UK, kings here have been extinct for ~60 years and I'm a republican :P
Well we don't have kings or queens, instead of having people that look like they're powerful but actually aren't, we have people that shouldn't be powerful but actually are
