The Nineteenth Byte

caird coinheringaahing

3:00 PM

@DJMcMayhem do you mind if I make the Wicka Wub CMC into a challenge using your username as an example?

DJMcMayhem

@cairdcoinheringaahing No, not at all!

Good timing, I just fixed a V bug that should let me shave off plenty of bytes

caird coinheringaahing

FYI, I am going to change it a little to make it more difficult

DJMcMayhem

@cairdcoinheringaahing V, 30 bytes: Try it online! (CC @Mr.Xcoder)

@cairdcoinheringaahing Will you ping me when you do?

caird coinheringaahing

@DJMcMayhem It'll come through on NSP, I'll ping you then

I love the first sentence of my challenge!

> Given a string as input, wicka-wub it

Mr. Xcoder

3:24 PM

@DJMcMayhem Oh, can't beat that

DJMcMayhem

(FTR, I had to fix a bug for that to work)

And it uses some brand new features, so I'm glad it's competitive

dzaima

@DJMcMayhem the character repetitions should start with 2

DJMcMayhem

Hmm

:/ V is 1-indexed, challenge is 0

mınxomaτ

Look at this totally official FCC announcement: ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/DOC-578e376efac00000-B.pdf

12

Mr. Xcoder

nye

caird coinheringaahing

3:27 PM

@mınxomaτ I didn't know you worked for the FCC

dzaima

oh yeah should I post this?

Anonymous

@mınxomaτ Alright what nonsense have you done this time :P

mınxomaτ

You can host arbitrary files on the fcc.gov server without authentication. Apparently.

AdmBorkBork

I foresee no possible way this could be abused.

mınxomaτ

Including html sites.

ASCII-only

3:40 PM

Maybe you should upload the CJam interpreter and link to it :P

AdmBorkBork

@DJMcMayhem There was this pop-con which was closed.

New Main Posts

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Q: How many partitions do I have?

The partition number of a positive integer is defined as the number of ways it can be expressed as a sum of positive integers. In other words, the number of integer partitions it has. For example, the number 4 has the following partitons: [[1, 1, 1, 1], [1, 1, 2], [1, 3], [2, 2], [4]] Hence, ...

ASCII-only

github.com/torvalds/linux/pull/437

4

Wat

Mayube

@ASCII-only And the sequel

dzaima

@ASCII-only huh. I thought that had been posted here before

caird coinheringaahing

3:46 PM

@Mr.Xcoder ಠ_ಠ your Pyth answer to ^^^^

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing Why? Because it has a built-in?

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder It's a relatively difficult problem and Pyth has a builtin

Mr. Xcoder

> EXPLANATION: ¯_(ツ)_/¯

@cairdcoinheringaahing Oh yeah... I think I just won it

caird coinheringaahing

Its like a language having a builtin for GoL Tetris

Mr. Xcoder

If Jelly doesn't in fact have a shorter built-in

DJMcMayhem

3:48 PM

I don't think so

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing Come on, partitions is definitely not as hard as GOL Tetris

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder It clearly is. The challenge only has 2 more answers than GoL. Ergo, they are of similar difficulty

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing It's like, 2000000 times easier

AdmBorkBork

@cairdcoinheringaahing brb, including that in the design docs for Pish-Posh

caird coinheringaahing

@AdmBorkBork If you do that, you win language design

AdmBorkBork

3:51 PM

Just cuz it's in the design docs doesn't mean it's implemented. I'll put it under "Future Releases:"

caird coinheringaahing

Waiting on NSP...

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Wicka-wub a string Inspired by this Given a string as input consisting of only upper and lowercase alphabet characters, wicka-wub it. How to wicka-wub a string, using DJMcMayhem as input First, partition the string on capital letters, preserving the letters split on, i.e. split the string...

caird coinheringaahing

@DJMcMayhem ^

DJMcMayhem

Oh, I thought you were going to main

caird coinheringaahing

@DJMcMayhem I'm not Calvin :P (shoots look at Bill)

I usually go to main at 3 upvotes hint hint

dzaima

3:59 PM

I should finish my regex compressor.. it'd be so useful but I'm also so lazy

Dead Possum

Is there a way to search all my posts in this chat? (halp me) (at least couple of the last ones)

Riley

@DeadPossum There's a search box in the upper right.

caird coinheringaahing

@DeadPossum If you don't care about time, you could CTRL-F all pages of the transcript

Mr. Xcoder

@DeadPossum You can go to chat > Profile > Serach for posts containing

@DeadPossum To simplify stuff, you can use this

caird coinheringaahing

ಠ_ಠ I've never said anything in TNB

totallyhuman

4:05 PM

you can't have an empty search query

Dead Possum

Thanks all!!

Mr. Xcoder

^^

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman I can if I say I can. Dogs control the internet (after the cats go to sleep)

Erik the Outgolfer

yeah you can't leave it empty

@cairdcoinheringaahing on the internet nobody knows you're a dog...

...so they can't just allow you to have leadership

caird coinheringaahing

@EriktheOutgolfer check my profile picture. I am clearly a dog

Mayube

4:07 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing the cats are not asleep though

see @Riley

totallyhuman

@cairdcoinheringaahing well @EriktheOutgolfer isn't PPCG though

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mayube not the only cat lol

Mayube

and DJMcMayhem

totallyhuman

and i'm human

profile pictures can lie

:P

Mayube

@totallyhuman totally

totallyhuman

4:07 PM

indeedy

Erik the Outgolfer

@totallyhuman wat of course I'm a human wat u talking about!?

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman How DARE you! Profile pictures cannot lie!

@totallyhuman And didn't you know that when we post on main, it automatically notifies Erik.

Mr. Xcoder

@Mayube And Business Cat

Anonymous

@Mayube Cats are almost always asleep

Mayube

we have a dog, a "human", 2 cats, a goat, a possum, a python, a fish, a penguin, a stag, and more abstract art than one can count

Erik the Outgolfer

4:08 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing *searches: "nice handsome guy"* *puts that as profile pic*

@Mego like there are cats in the antarctic and you know their schedule :p

Mayube

*searches: "rich guy" and sets as profile pic

Anonymous

@EriktheOutgolfer First people think I got hit by Harvey, now you think I'm in Antarctica? How bad is geography education these days when people can't find Dallas on a map?

Mr. Xcoder

searches "Dennis" and sets as profile picture

muddyfish

is really a fluffy wolfie

Anonymous

@Mr.Xcoder 50/50 Always Sunny or Dennis the Menace

Mr. Xcoder

4:11 PM

Yep •_•

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mego wait...are you one of those smart creatures with "adaptive instincts"? :p

totallyhuman

google.com/…

muddyfish

I didn't get taught anything about American geography in class. It's not very important here :P

Anonymous

@EriktheOutgolfer If by "adaptive instincts" you mean air conditioning, yes

caird coinheringaahing

@Mego I didn't know you lived in Dallas, just that you were somewhere in Texas

totallyhuman

4:11 PM

that's a lot of dennis'

caird coinheringaahing

@Mayube the goat is actually a downgoat. Whole separate species

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mego and what air conditioner goes below -20 celsius? giant freezer?

Anonymous

@cairdcoinheringaahing I've gotten a ton of questions (not just yours) about whether or not I'm ok because of the hurricane. People don't understand just how big Texas is.

Mayube

@cairdcoinheringaahing right, my bad

Erik the Outgolfer

also you can't even live outside your place it's too hot isn't it?

totallyhuman

4:12 PM

it's the only state bigger than texas

DJMcMayhem

@Mego How are you typing this while you're underwater? Are you OK?

Anonymous

@EriktheOutgolfer There are many species of penguins that don't live in polar climates. For example, the Galapagos penguin species lives near the equator.

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman 10/10 logic

totallyhuman

it's the only state bigger than murica

Anonymous

@DJMcMayhem sigh

caird coinheringaahing

4:13 PM

@totallyhuman Where?

totallyhuman

and it's in murica

caird coinheringaahing

Oh, 'merica

Erik the Outgolfer

@DJMcMayhem penguins are very good underwater don't underestimate them

DJMcMayhem

@Mego hehe, sorry I couldn't resist.

Also: Texas is HUGE!

Anonymous

@DJMcMayhem Did you know that ROs can kick other ROs? I just learned that! :P

Erik the Outgolfer

4:14 PM

@Mego is that a threat?

DJMcMayhem

@Mego o_O Wait, if you kicked me, would I get notified?

totallyhuman

let's find out! :P

caird coinheringaahing

Lol, when we went to NYC for a school trip, someone asked us where we were from, I replied "The United States of Europe". Blew their mind.

Anonymous

@DJMcMayhem You know, that's an excellent question. Do you want to find out (for science)?

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing 1/10 Narnia would have been better

DJMcMayhem

4:15 PM

@Mego Ehhh, sure. why not?

totallyhuman

it goes on your record? :P

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman He's an RO, he can clean his record

Erik the Outgolfer

@cairdcoinheringaahing no

Anonymous

@totallyhuman I don't know that kicks have a record. If they do, only mods can see it.

Anonymous

We keep our own record of kicks, but that's done manually by us, not automatically by the system.

Mr. Xcoder

4:17 PM

Why does TNB have stricter moderation than other rooms?

Erik the Outgolfer

@DJMcMayhem were you kicked at all?

totallyhuman

@DJMcMayhem well?

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder More spammers

totallyhuman

...ninja'd

DJMcMayhem

I was unable to speak for an entire minute.

It was horrible

totallyhuman

4:17 PM

XD

Anonymous

@Mr.Xcoder Because we had looser moderation for a long time, and it didn't work

Erik the Outgolfer

@DJMcMayhem so much time passed already? o_O

Mr. Xcoder

@DJMcMayhem You could MEOW though, since you're a cat

DJMcMayhem

@Mr.Xcoder High-traffic also has something to do with it

Anonymous

There are about one billion posts on meta.ppcg about how chat used to suck

caird coinheringaahing

4:18 PM

I wish me could star multiple messages as a group, like a good joke, with a punchline

DJMcMayhem

@Mr.Xcoder o_O Does that mean I'm allergic to myself?

totallyhuman

@cairdcoinheringaahing bookmark it

Erik the Outgolfer

if djmcmayhem lived in texas, it would've been terrible

Mr. Xcoder

@DJMcMayhem Whoops, didn't know

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman bookmark?

Erik the Outgolfer

4:19 PM

you have enough rep to

(1000 <= 5882)

caird coinheringaahing

@EriktheOutgolfer As it what is that?

Erik the Outgolfer

you need 1k rep network-wide to bookmark in chat

caird coinheringaahing

25 secs ago, by caird coinheringaahing

@EriktheOutgolfer As it what is that?

Erik the Outgolfer

bookmark?

caird coinheringaahing

@EriktheOutgolfer Yes.

Anonymous

4:20 PM

@DJMcMayhem So did the kick notify you?

Erik the Outgolfer

btw this is @DJMcMayhem's second time getting undeservedly kicked...

DJMcMayhem

Nope. I was too busy not being in the room to see any notifications

muddyfish

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/240/…

Anonymous

@DJMcMayhem That's fair

Anonymous

@EriktheOutgolfer You've missed a lot. He always volunteers to be the guinea pig :P

Erik the Outgolfer

4:21 PM

@Mego they notify you? I thought they redirect you to the "all rooms" page but with a message on top

Anonymous

@EriktheOutgolfer ROs get notified of kicks in their rooms if they have a chat tab open.

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mego how can he still create rooms then?

@Mego I meant in the inbox

of course I know about the topbar notification

DJMcMayhem

I've only been kicked like 2-3 times I think. And never suspended

Although I have had a sock suspended for science

Anonymous

@EriktheOutgolfer The kicks were separated far enough that the restriction didn't trigger. If it did, a mod probably removed it manually.

DJMcMayhem

Hmmm... Maybe I should change my profile picture to a guinea pig

Erik the Outgolfer

4:23 PM

@DJMcMayhem flags message

DJMcMayhem

It would be more accurate

caird coinheringaahing

@DJMcMayhem for "science" :P

Anonymous

@EriktheOutgolfer We don't get inbox notifications for kicks, no. Just the top bar notification.

Erik the Outgolfer

btw I don't see why too many kicks should prevent you from creating your own rooms?

Anonymous

@EriktheOutgolfer As with all restrictions, somebody probably did something that caused that restriction to be implemented.

Erik the Outgolfer

4:24 PM

oh as in the avatar restriction?

but it just doesn't make sense at all

Anonymous

@EriktheOutgolfer You mean how users with < 20 rep don't have their avatars shown in chat? Yeah, I'm sure there's a story behind that one, too.

Erik the Outgolfer

that's on the chat faq basically...I've read it

Anonymous

Someone probably flooded a room with socks whose avatars together made some sort of inappropriate image

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Q: Approximate the Score of a 2048 Game

A game of 2048 goes like this: Every move you get another piece - either 2 90% of the time, or 4 10% of the time for each 2 equal pieces combined you get a piece of the sum of the two and the sum gets added to your score Your task given a board of a 4x4 game, give the average score of what A...

code-golf

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mego I was sure it was <20 :p

caird coinheringaahing

4:27 PM

@Mego His name is WheatWizard, and its just his one avatar that's inappropriate :P

Erik the Outgolfer

@cairdcoinheringaahing huh?

Anonymous

@EriktheOutgolfer TIL there's a chat FAQ. Also man those images are outdated.

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mego I was sure you hadn't read that one too

who does? :p

caird coinheringaahing

@EriktheOutgolfer Have you seen WheatWizards profile picture?

Erik the Outgolfer

yeah it's some sort of colors mixed together

Anonymous

4:28 PM

TBH I thought the faq button on chat led to the network-wide faq

caird coinheringaahing

Oh, he changed it again D:

Erik the Outgolfer

but it has an offensive word in it?

Felix Palmen

@EriktheOutgolfer cleaned up here :)

btw question to all ... is it ok to add an answer to an own challenge? nothing competitive, just for the fun?

Erik the Outgolfer

discouraged

ASCII-only

@FelixPalmen it's allowed yes

Anonymous

4:34 PM

@FelixPalmen It's fine to answer your own challenge, but usually it's suggested that you wait for other answers so that you don't snipe solutions that others are working on.

ASCII-only

And all answers should be competitive

So you can't post a bowled answer

Felix Palmen

ok thanks all! @Mego that won't be a problem, there are already 11 answers and I seem to be the only crazy guy here trying to find solutions on a C64 ...

I'm aiming for minimal code size, but for my challenge, it will be MUCH larger than some other languages...

Anonymous

As long as you've made an attempt at golfing your code, it's fine

Mayube

Hmm, so I have this USB fingerprint reader from like 2006, and I'm thinking of playing around with some low-level USB stuff and writing my own "drivers" for it, with no reference or existing documentation. This is gunna take a lot of trial and error and blindly throwing packets at the USB port, isn't it?

Anonymous

People regularly use Java and BF to answer challenges, and those are usually an order of magnitude longer than other solutions

Felix Palmen

4:37 PM

@Mego alright ... "golfing" is more-or-less a must do for any reasonable C64 code ... limited resources :)

caird coinheringaahing

@Mego Not to mention ;# :P

Erik the Outgolfer

@cairdcoinheringaahing turing-incomplete ;)

TuxCopter

;# is not a valid language tho

dzaima

@EriktheOutgolfer unary? :p

caird coinheringaahing

@EriktheOutgolfer The new version is allowed though. It has 2 more builtins that add numbers, and perform a prime test

Erik the Outgolfer

4:43 PM

unary is turing-complete

@cairdcoinheringaahing that doesn't mean it's turing-complete

it just means it's a "programming language" as long as ppcg is concerned

it can't simulate a turing machine on its own

caird coinheringaahing

Also, I don't consider unary a "language". It's just another BF deriviative. If a language is a BFD, but still adds more to the language, its fine. Otherwise its just the same sh*t over and over again

TuxCopter

it's quite hard to make a non-turing complete language that can still do a primality check

caird coinheringaahing

@TuxCopter a language with 1 builtin should do it

Felix Palmen

huh? checking for a prime is a a computable problem ...

ah sorry, misread

nevermind

totallyhuman

non turing-complete language that fit's PPCG's standards :P
https://tio.run/##hZJNTsMwEIX3PsWgCtluk5Ym4kcV2XICdgihkDiNUetEttPQE3EE9lwsjOOWkrZSLVnyTJ6/mXlOvbVlpeKuG13NGqNn71LNhNpA7fNkBOE4hKzKpVouoLFF@OAyhMh1XWkLZmsIIbkoQJq3Wsu1YIovCOCSBShIEoh86JYWttEKnnUjyEATX9JcQ@R0Nye6p3RlhsL4shASuO1PLZ4in2xLuRL4aYz7MQF1AOy48oh7nu35kwTav9AVuYMQM@RkwN468SmyxgqGNouDeS5yJenPNz1URY@VZX7XjWWcwwT@h/xocHLK@zrl7R9vQDqPyspUGxzJCBT1mdRkUu4y67RmWakD0KlaChbHAcyje8fqpUWl0R6p@m4GFsexs73SOZPcnfDW0Ou@7jTNncDDfO@UTj8qqZjB/1HkzDcTejnnAQiVY2@U4iXSSltCVQtUb5Gll5uX@WsAVFOOU0DhK@7fo5hqkeboRNf9Ag

caird coinheringaahing

4:51 PM

@totallyhuman just knocking off a language in 5 minutes :D

Mr. Xcoder

@EriktheOutgolfer Um, indeed I see no way to golf that either. BTW brilliant Jelly which abuses implicit stuff a looot.

Erik the Outgolfer

well why not?

caird coinheringaahing

+1 for sheer cheekiness

Mr. Xcoder

Why not why? - Why not abuse implicit stuff? - Then the answers is you should abuse implicit stuff

Erik the Outgolfer

if it saves bytes why not?

Mr. Xcoder

4:54 PM

> Then the answers is you should abuse implicit stuff

caird coinheringaahing

The new name of code golf is... PP-wicka-wicka-wub-wub-CCGGG

Stephen

@totallyhuman or just use Bubblegum empty program

totallyhuman

@Stephen nope

it's not empty program

caird coinheringaahing

:D The Python syntax highlighter thinks @DJMcMayhem is a builtin

DJMcMayhem

Lol

Pavel

4:58 PM

Python uses @ for annotations, right?

Erik the Outgolfer

def f(x):
    len(x)
    return DJMcMayhem(x)

ataco's doesn't?

Pavel

Maybe your highlighter uses the same color for annotations and builtins.

caird coinheringaahing

Ok, I need some strings for the Wicka-Wub challenge

@Pavel Not the literal @, that was just to alert DJ of the quirk

Pavel

@EriktheOutgolfer ATaco's is Google's, which is also stack exchange's

Erik the Outgolfer

@cairdcoinheringaahing nope not even removing it

Mr. Xcoder

5:00 PM

print @DJMcMayhem

Pavel

@cairdcoinheringaahing "foobarbaz"

Erik the Outgolfer

you know you're pinging him right?

Mr. Xcoder

The highlighter thinks @cairdcoinheringaahing is also a built-in, as well as everything preceded by @.

Erik the Outgolfer

(feature-request: don't ping when code)

Mr. Xcoder

@EriktheOutgolfer status-declined

Erik the Outgolfer

5:02 PM

@Mr.Xcoder status-ynot

Mr. Xcoder

@EriktheOutgolfer status-it-s-fun

Pavel

3 mins ago, by Pavel

Maybe your highlighter uses the same color for annotations and builtins.

Mr. Xcoder

yes

it does

Erik the Outgolfer

@Mr.Xcoder not really

caird coinheringaahing

@Pavel "fooooobbbbaaaaarrrrrrbbbbbbbaaaaaaaazzzzzzzzz"

Mr. Xcoder

5:03 PM

BYE O/

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder Bye o/

Mr. Xcoder

broken caps lock :-))))

Pavel

What is this challenge anyway? Link?

Erik the Outgolfer

I think it's a cmc

caird coinheringaahing

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Wicka-wub a string Inspired by this Given a string as input consisting of only upper and lowercase alphabet characters, wicka-wub it. How to wicka-wub a string, using DJMcMayhem as input First, partition the string on capital letters, preserving the letters split on, i.e. split the string...

Pavel

5:05 PM

Thanks

caird coinheringaahing

@EriktheOutgolfer It started as a CMC

totallyhuman

they're decorators, aren't they?

what are annotations in python?

Erik the Outgolfer

yeah they're decorators

Pavel

CMC: output the nth term of OEIS A130528

caird coinheringaahing

@Pavel OEIS has some weird sequences

Pavel

5:10 PM

Yes

totallyhuman

Pari:

T(n, k)=local(M=Mat(1));if(n<k||k<0,0,if(n==k,1,M=matrix(n+1,n+1,r,c,if(n==k,1,if(r>=‌c&&r<=n,T(r-1,c-1))));T(n-1, k-1)+(M^n)[n, k+1]))

:P

Pavel

Isn't Pari a C library?

AdmBorkBork

yesterday, by AdmBorkBork

> Number of essentially different seating arrangements for n couples around a circular table with 2n seats avoiding spouses being neighbors and avoiding clusters of 3 persons with equal gender.

totallyhuman

@Pavel does that look like C code to you

Pavel

No

Hence my confusion

I mean, actually it does look like C, but there are a few "mistakes".

totallyhuman

5:15 PM

...it has mathematica style if statements

a function is defined as f(x)=

implicit return statement

yeah doesn't look a lot like C to me :P

Pavel

From Wikipedia:

PARI is a C library, allowing for fast computations, and which can be called from a high-level language application (for instance, written in C, C++, Pascal, Fortran, Perl, or Python).

totallyhuman

wat

Pavel

I think you're thinking of gp

Alex K Chen

How can I do simulations like this in python or C ? I guess tkinter isn't sufficient, right ?

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Q: Go away! No-1's Here!

I was playing around with some numbers and found a sequence that, of course, is on OEIS. It is A005823: Numbers whose ternary expansion contains no 1's. It goes: a(2n) = 3*a(n)+2 a(2n+1) = 3*a(n+1) a(1) = 0 a = 0,2,6,8,18,20,24,26,54.... I wrote a CJam program that generates...

code-golf sequence base-conversion

TuxCopter

5:25 PM

@AlexKChen Tkinter's canvas element is quite powerful

Alex K Chen

@TuxCopter Can you suggest me some good resource to learn tkinter (so that I can do stuff like what happens in Simon Tatham's game or in the link) quickly, from scratch ?

TuxCopter

@AlexKChen effbot.org/tkinterbook

Alex K Chen

Can I do what happens in the link after learning tkinter ?

Erik the Outgolfer

@AlexKChen you love pointlesssites.com right?

Poke

5:43 PM

Harrison Ford

@mınxomaτ is it intended functionality?

Alex K Chen

@EriktheOutgolfer What's that ?

Erik the Outgolfer

it links to the site you linked

basically pointless sites

Alex K Chen

Are you sure ? I am seeing some physics simulation in the site. Can you upload a screenshot ?

Stephen

@totallyhuman oh what is it then

caird coinheringaahing

Any last suggestions before I post this?

totallyhuman

6:00 PM

@Stephen esolangs.org/wiki/Bubblegum

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman Also, Bubblegum is Turing complete

totallyhuman

most likely yes

caird coinheringaahing

> While Bubblegum is Turing complete, programs with non-constant output are hard to write.

totallyhuman

esolangs.org/wiki/Bubblegum#Computational_class

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Q: Wicka-wub a string

Inspired by this Given a string as input consisting of only upper and lowercase alphabet characters, wicka-wub it. How to wicka-wub a string, using DJMcMayhem as input First, partition the string on capital letters, preserving the letters split on, i.e. split the strings just before each cap...

code-golf string

caird coinheringaahing

6:09 PM

@NewMainPosts How come you're always fast with my questions?

DJMcMayhem

6:19 PM

@EriktheOutgolfer Hey, can I ask you some questions in JHT?

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Q: Boolean Rectangles

Inspired by Braille graphics Given a Boolean matrix (i.e., consisting of only 1s and 0s), output an ASCII-art-style Unicode representation of the closed-polygon shape created by the 1s in the matrix, using the Unicode drawing characters ┌ ─ ┐ │ └ ┘. Replace the 0s with spaces, so you're left wit...

code-golf ascii-art matrix

caird coinheringaahing

6:34 PM

@DJMcMayhem Don't ask to ask, just ask :P

DJMcMayhem

But if he isn't here, there's no point in asking

caird coinheringaahing

ಠ_ಠ He was just in JHT. You might as well ask, he'll get round to it. And can I help, if you need an answer now?

DJMcMayhem

Sure

I just posted it over there

Pavel

6:53 PM

JHT?

totallyhuman

jelly hypertraining

chat.stackexchange.com/…

AdmBorkBork

7:14 PM

grumble grumble

tfw you dupe-hammer your own challenge .... feelsbadman

caird coinheringaahing

7:27 PM

Question: should I implement GUI mode in 2Deorstv?

totallyhuman

I meta quine once. — mellamokb Apr 13 '12 at 13:32

caird coinheringaahing

@mellamokb har har ;-) — Gaffi Apr 13 '12 at 13:33

General consensus please. Is this a bad challenge? Is it unclear or does it not have a winning criteria? Is it too trivial? If no is the answer to all of these, then can someone please explain why 2 people have downvoted it.

Mr. Xcoder

Ugh, it took me too long to write an explanation.

Poke

@cairdcoinheringaahing I did not downvote but my best guess would be that it's a challenge with arbitrary rules for manipulating a string and some folks didn't find it interesting. It may be true that many challenges can be boiled down to this but for a lot of them the rules are less arbitrary and more like "this is a thing that exists. pls do it"

Here's an example: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/123685/covfefify-a-string/…

AdmBorkBork

Poke probably has it accurate.

Poke

7:39 PM

It was a meme so people liked the idea

totallyhuman

also ellipsisiesiess

caird coinheringaahing

ಠ_ಠ I officially hate PPCG.

totallyhuman

hmm?

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing Why? Because of your challenge?

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder No, because nothing I do here ever works out

(except OEIS, that doesn't count)

Mr. Xcoder

7:44 PM

yeah, the last two challenges kinda failed, unfortunately

totallyhuman

most people have bad challenges and answers

that's not a reason to hate PPCG though

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing BTW I can't post any challenge today (the number one) because of repcap, so sorry for making you pick for no reason. Might try to post tomorrow though

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman What is your highest upvoted answer? cc @Mr.Xcoder

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing xkcd (91 92 upvotes)

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder I can assure you that it did not take a lot of effort to choose 2 numbers :P

Mr. Xcoder

7:46 PM

Ok, thanks though

totallyhuman

@cairdcoinheringaahing a brainfuck joke answer

Mr. Xcoder

Here is totallyhuman's (52 votes)

totallyhuman

bruh i dunno what you're complaining about

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman Those are questions. They get half the rep that answers do

totallyhuman

so?

Mr. Xcoder

7:47 PM

@totallyhuman Look at the answers tab

caird coinheringaahing

Put it this way. I was on ~2.3k when you two started posting. @totallyhuman you're now on almost 8k and @Mr.Xcoder's on 10.5k. You can tell why I get frustrated.

AdmBorkBork

All y'all with 50+ vote answers and I'm over here like "Yay, this PowerShell answer received one upvote!"

Mr. Xcoder

And the first one is the starter of the OEIS challenge an the other is a joke answer generated by a script in ;#

@AdmBorkBork Oh come on

AdmBorkBork

@Mr.Xcoder That one got me Populist

Mr. Xcoder

Do you post in anything other than Powershell @Adm ?

caird coinheringaahing

7:50 PM

@Mr.Xcoder The only post on this site I'm actually happy with was my 3rd ever answer. A quine that I found and created, independently of any tricks I heard of. That got me +70 rep.

Mr. Xcoder

Oh, you also do Batch, forgot that one

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

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AdmBorkBork

I have 10 non-PowerShell answers. Three of which are KOTH, 5 of which are in BATCH file, and a couple other randoms

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing Well done.

AdmBorkBork

I have >460 PowerShell answers

totallyhuman

7:51 PM

@AdmBorkBork lol every one of my legit python answers have less than 15 votes :P

AdmBorkBork

I celebrate if an answer hits 5 votes

Mr. Xcoder

@AdmBorkBork Me too :)

caird coinheringaahing

This is the language that I originally only used.

totallyhuman

@cairdcoinheringaahing you're just less active then the two of us... i once had more rep than mr. xcoder but now he does

Mr. Xcoder

LOL this did not deserve 19 votes ( cc @cairdcoinheringaahing )

caird coinheringaahing

7:52 PM

@totallyhuman We had this discussion yesterday :P

totallyhuman

ok

think about it this way

caird coinheringaahing

@Mr.Xcoder I want to downvote solutions like that, that don't actually show proper golfing, but if I do that for every answer, I get to 1 rep pretty quickly

totallyhuman

helka homba barely posts any answers

i haven't seen one :P

Mr. Xcoder

Nowadays, I receive +10 on my inbox every once ~45 minutes. When I will start school, I will receive +10 on my inbox once a day :)

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman Calvin doesn't count, he's a question god

totallyhuman

7:53 PM

but he has like 50k just posting questions

muddyfish

always celebrates when he gets a +5 vote answer

totallyhuman

@cairdcoinheringaahing yes and the way you're going, you could definitely get awesome questions

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman He has 27 answers

muddyfish

only celebrates a question when its +25

Mr. Xcoder

@muddyfish How can you get +5 for an answer?

Oh nvm

muddyfish

7:54 PM

:P

Mr. Xcoder

+5 votes/answers you meant

muddyfish

yeah

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman Yes, but I have to get 200 upvotes to match an answer with 100. It's why I'm a massive supporter of the answer = question proposals here

totallyhuman

...and your point is? :P

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman Take a look at this. This is the highest upvoted answer on the site, yet isn't even golfed.

totallyhuman

7:57 PM

ok what about it?

Mr. Xcoder

@cairdcoinheringaahing Yep, that's awful indeed... You can't do anything about it though

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman Per our standards, it isn't even a valid answer, yet over 1000 people have upvoted it, saying that its good.

totallyhuman