The Nineteenth Byte

@Mr.Xcoder (untimed) import math\nfor i in range(input() + 1):\n print(str(math.factorial(i)))

Ok

I'll time them

@Mr.Xcoder don't have python installed and running them all on TIO would be a pain, sowwy

@StepHen error

2:23 PM

@StepHen Invalid. Excludes the factorial of the input.

If it's Putin 3

@Mr.Xcoder working version, sorry: Try it online!

I'm not supposed to reveal secrets about the moderator tools in public, but...

There's no way to detect a user that spams using only non-dictionary words.

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@StepHen Ok

Oh, and did I forget to mention? It's international spread misinformation day. :-)

2:25 PM

@wizzwizz4 good, star the first message and not the second

@StepHen Then, when it gets onto Google search lists...

Spam will become that much easier to kill.

@wizzwizz4 I really hope the opposite is not true

(In theory. In practice, spammers won't even bother.)

@StepHen No - something that's gibberish either gets an instant automatic VLQ flag or gets picked up by Smokey within 5 minutes.

@wizzwizz4 I meant "there's no way to detect a user that spams only using dictionary words"

@StepHen There is a way to detect a user that spams using only dictionary words.

It's called downvotes and confused comments.

And flags if it's complete gibberish. :-)

2:30 PM

@Mr.Xcoder A probably bad attempt

import operator
import functools

for i in range(1,int(input())+1):
    print(functools.reduce(operator.mul,list(range(1,i+1))))

@StepHen not Charcoal although that's still a bonus (also Ruby has them too)

This is another approach ^^

(it doesn't have to include the factorial of 0)

@ASCII-only so why aren't more esolangs in Ruby then? :P

Cows quack

@Mr.Xcoder -1 for restricting to python

2:31 PM

@StepHen nobody likes Ruby

@Cowsquack I would give me +1 for that reason

I will say I wish every lang made file IO as easy as it is in Python

File IO in Java makes me want to break something

That's just Java

@ASCII-only OK, file IO in JavaScript makes me want to... nvm

Java is not every language

Cows quack

2:33 PM

CMC: calculate 2^1000000 (list all the digits)

^ is exponentiation

@Cowsquack Try it online! but it's truncated on TIO (golfed: #|1:2^(10^6

trichoplax

Python, 8 bytes, 2**10**6

don't have python local here so can't run it locally sorry

@Cowsquack Gaia, 3 bytes: 6ez

~~Wish this would work:~~ Jelly, 5 bytes: 2*ȷ6

2:34 PM

@Mr.Xcoder obviously this is faster

@Cowsquack Unexpected token '^' in expression or statement.

@LeakyNun I know

trichoplax

@StepHen Yeah don't type that into TIO :P

That attempt is horrible

@trichoplax no it'll work fine

Cows quack

2:35 PM

wow, I didn't think Python had it in itself

@BusinessCat It's pretty ez when you have builtins for 10^n and 2^n ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@trichoplax TIO has a 128 KB output cap

@Cowsquack python does it in like 4 seconds

trichoplax

@StepHen I was worried more about the time it would take - I don't know what memory and processor the server has

@Mr.Xcoder you don't need the 1

@LeakyNun Thanks

My approach takes 0.0013589859008789062

2:38 PM

@Mr.Xcoder on where?

how many times did it run?

@LeakyNun My mac...

@LeakyNun It ran for all n in (4,20]

nmjcman101

@DJMcMayhem Can we get Vim-golf unfrozen?

@Mr.Xcoder just once?

@LeakyNun Yeah

I thought it's common sense that you don't time a fast program just once

give it 1000 trials

2:39 PM

I give up the CMC

I am too lazy to time.time() now :())

@LeakyNun wait... you're doing a run that's in the milliseconds, and you're not doing it more than 100 times?

@StepHen not me

CMC: output 0

:P

Jelly, 0 bytes:

@totallyhuman Java, 172093840761087309830876198763 bytes: This message is too long.

2:41 PM

@totallyhuman cQuents, #1:0

I need to implement the shorthand for #|1: real bad

@BusinessCat That's how I got my score to be infinite

@totallyhuman Java, 64 bytes: interface M{static void main(String[]a){System.out.println(0);}}

@Mr.Xcoder Big > infinite

@StepHen No, that's false :P

New Main Posts

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Q: Primes other than Optimus

Challenge Given an input integer n > 0, output the number of primes (other than n, if n itself is prime) that can be produced by altering one digit in the decimal expansion of n (without changing the number of digits). Examples For example, n = 2. By altering one digit in the decimal expansion...

2:42 PM

@LeakyNun x->0? or do I have Java lambdas messed up

> output

@Mr.Xcoder output by any standard method

@totallyhuman Ok then

@totallyhuman JS: _=>0

@Mr.Xcoder "output" == "accepted default output methods" == "function/stdout"

to be a programming lang, you have to be able to "add natural numbers". Does that mean base10, or no?

2:46 PM

@totallyhuman Empty program in most languages would work, too, since Exit Code is a valid output for integer output.

Yeah

Waiting for somebody to think of that

@StepHen no, because of those BF derivs with only binary. yay my lang is feasible

Ok CMC: output 1

Retina, 0 bytes:

@totallyhuman Jelly, 1 byte: 1

2:53 PM

@BusinessCat >_>

@totallyhuman Python, 1 byte: r

@StepHen Hmmmm...

@Mr.Xcoder Polyglot with lots of other languages, including PowerShell

@Mr.Xcoder (output by exit code)

Jelly, 1 byte: ‘

2:54 PM

CMC code-bowling: Find a lang that uses exit code 1 for errors, but that cannot output 1 (in any form) in less than 2 bytes.

05AB1E, 1 byte: 1

@Mr.Xcoder In Gaia that outputs 0 :P

@StepHen Does Python's REPL count as "in any form"?

ArnoldC, 1 byte (output via exit code): 1

ArnoldC, 0 bytes (output via exit code): link

@StepHen TrumpScript

DJMcMayhem

@nmjcman101 Oh, good idea. I can't do it myself though, we should ping a mod

2:57 PM

@StepHen brb, making esolang where all single-byte programs are infinite loops

DJMcMayhem

@wizzwizz4 Could you unfreeze chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/40448/vim-golf

Delete this before more people see this and ask off-topic stuff

Dude it didn't even hit chat XD

@DJMcMayhem Done.

@BusinessCat you can't error trumpscript in 1 byte?

3:01 PM

@StepHen 1

Exception: Trump will ensure that 'America is great'

@BusinessCat Find a lang that uses exit code 1 for errors

@StepHen Here

@BusinessCat output via exit code is allowed, so if anyone one byte program errors, it outputs 1 via exit code

o╭╮o

3:03 PM

@BusinessCat see the exit code at the end of the debug tab

Everything in trumpscript errors

Wait, no one has created a challenge called "Optimal Primes" yet?

@StepHen Exit code: 1

@StepHen Sandbox it first.

@totallyhuman yes I know, therefore it outputs 1, therefore it is not a valid answer

@wizzwizz4 I don't even know what the contents would be yet :P

3:05 PM

@StepHen you're not making sense

To me at least

@totallyhuman I want a language that uses 1 as its exit error code, but physically cannot output 1 with any 1 byte program

a valid answer would be, as Adam said:

8 mins ago, by AdmBorkBork

@StepHen brb, making esolang where all single-byte programs are infinite loops

Oh, 1 byters can't error

@BusinessCat yeah, I said it badly though, sorry

I thought you wanted a language where erroring was the shortest way to output 1

@BusinessCat oh lol

I want a lang that can't output 1 with only 1 byte, but that uses 1 as the exit code for errors

3:18 PM

ohh that makes more sense

Isn't it great when you get a language on TIO and then find tons of bugs in it

Anonymous

Does anyone know of any sets of languages that have transpilers that can form a cycle? e.g. A -> B -> A or A -> B -> C -> A

@Mego python <-> apl?

Anonymous

@LeakyNun I'm not finding any resources for APL -> Python or Python -> APL

iirc it's still in development

Anonymous

3:28 PM

Basically I want to do what people do with human languages by running them through several translators, but with programming languages

;-; my computer's denying me my shell

;-; i'll use vim for a solid hour if you give me my shell back

Jul 26 at 12:59, by Adám

We are adding libraries to execute Python from within APL and APL from within Python. What should we call these tools?

Anonymous

@LeakyNun Executing A inside of B isn't the same thing as what I'm looking for. I want a set of languages for which there are tools to translate code between them.

@Mego oh, I see

github.com/pybee/voc

Anonymous

@LeakyNun A) That tool doesn't work very well (I've tried it). B) I don't know of any JVM bytecode -> Python transpilers (or any transpilers for JVM bytecode).

3:32 PM

never mind

feersum

I think I read there was an LLVM to C translator, but it was deleted from the project a while back, so you'd have to dig a bit.

Riley

@Mego BrainF**k <-> Unary, but I don't think that's what you're looking for.

dzaima

JavaScript ↔ SOGL :p

ppperry

@StepHen Unary?

The one byte program in unary should transform to an empty brainfuck program

which isn't an error

@Mego Can Visual Studio do some translations between .NET languages?

Anonymous

3:44 PM

@Riley Not really, since they're different representations of the same language

Anonymous

@AdmBorkBork I'd imagine so, but I have no idea how to go about doing that.

Yeah, I'm not sure, either; I've never used the suite.