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8:00 PM
@Lynn that was particularly bad on:
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Q: Bake a slice of Pi

CopperWrite a program or function that prints or outputs this exact text (consisting of 142 characters): ()()()()()() |\3.1415926| |:\53589793| \::\2384626| \::\433832| \::\79502| \::\8841| \::\971| \::\69| \::\3| \__\| Your program must take no input (except in languages...

 
That Slice of Pi challange was evil.
 
Hahaha, yes
 
@Lembik @PhiNotPi If you prefer a non-recursive formula then f(n) = (n+1) + Sum(i=1..n-1) (n-i) σ_0(i)
 
Wait, but what is:
ಠ_ಠ(i)?
 
Anonymous
@ATaco "ಠ"+"_"*i+"ಠ", obviously
 
8:03 PM
@Mego which, if you ask Mathematica, comes out as 2 "ಠ" + "_" i
 
@MartinEnder ಠ_ಠ
 
Javascript gives "ಠNaNಠ"
 
Anonymous
Get a better language that can do string multiplication
 
RProgN2 can do PostFix string Multiplication?
But it doesn't support UTF-8.
 
@MartinEnder that's cool, so I guess the OEIS superseeker worked
 
8:07 PM
@PhiNotPi what did that one tell you?
 
@MartinEnder I think it looks more like a stylised o_O
 
Anonymous
The 0 part looks like a swollen-shut eyelid
 
@MartinEnder It gave me two main possibilities, the closest was exactly what you gave
(using divisor count)
the other guess was oeis.org/A110895
 
@DJMcMayhem Huh, how did I not answer that challenge? I have it in 105 bytes
 
oh right, just looked through the transcript
 
8:12 PM
@Lynn you're back!
 
@MartinEnder That's pretty cool!
@MartinEnder I am very impressed. What is σ_0(i) exactly?
 
divisor count
A000005
writing up an answer right now. I have no formal proof, but I can sketch how I arrived at the solution, which I think is convincing enough.
 
@AdmBorkBork go for it!
 
@MartinEnder Fantastic!
 
@DJMcMayhem Ninja'd.
 
8:21 PM
lucky I didn't pose it as a challenge.. I am sure my ppcg challenge doesn't have such a simple answer however
@MartinEnder Do you have a feeling for how quickly the answer grows? It looks like it is slightly faster than n^2
 
looks like roughly n^2.17
hm, interesting, the higher I go, the more that exponent drops
 
Per @Mego: Golf for a living? At Dyalog, we write legible efficient code with a swath of powerful single-char Unicode glyphs! Interested?
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Is there a term for a 2d curve that is non-self intersecting?
 
@HelkaHomba non-singular?
or jordan curve?
simple curve?
boundary of a simply connected subset of the plane?
 
Simple is good, thanks. But I guess I ought to explain anyhow
Now what is the length of a matrix? ;)
 
8:33 PM
@Adám that's a pretty nifty job. How many glyphs is APL using nowadays?
 
yes
 
possibly, but initially it grows quite a bit faster than that
I imagine it's something more complicated that a simple polynomial
 
interesting
things tend to be pretty asymptotically
so I am going to bet n^2 :)
but it will be fun to find out
 
If each x value has no more than one y value than many-to-one is appropriate
 
Anonymous
@HelkaHomba Uhh what?
 
8:37 PM
@HelkaHomba 136 minutes
 
@DJMcMayhem I can't find an 18 byte solution but here's a 20 byte solution that doesn't use []
 
@ConorO'Brien About a hundred, depending on how you count.
 
is there a list somewhere?
 
@ConorO'Brien Here, but I don't particularly like that list. I've made a proposal for a better one.
 
@WheatWizard Here's another.
 
8:42 PM
Another for good measure
 
@Adám I like the sour face
 
the asterisk w/ diaeresis?
I think I spelled that right
 
@HelkaHomba ⍤ ⍨ ⍣. I hope we get and soon.
@ConorO'Brien Power operator: Do N times, or do until a function applied between two consecutive results returns true.
 
oh, I was just asking if that was the sour face Helka was talking about
 
8:49 PM
yes
 
@ConorO'Brien Thanks for clarifying, I actually thought he meant , which is called "frown".
 
oh haha
 
@PhiNotPi posted the answer: math.stackexchange.com/a/2185352/50421 (Lembik will get a notification anyway :))
 
@ConorO'Brien Quite some of our symbols have tongue-in-cheek names, e.g. "splat" "concorde". has been proposed with the name "Schrödinger". You might need to zoom in to see the details here...
 
@WheatWizard Actually, I kind of lucked out. I found a way to leave two extra values on the stack without breaking anything, so now I can do (([])[][][])
 
8:53 PM
@Adám Is that actually a question mark box or can I just not see it?
 
@HelkaHomba Actually a question mark in a box.
 
@MartinEnder That's slick.
 
8:58 PM
uh, thanks? :D
 
@ConorO'Brien We have a mug in the office which reads "I ⎕ UNICODE"
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@Adám that's perfect for APL lol
 
@JanDvorak That's really good too. I'll see if we can get one. At Dyalog we are very laid back, and have all kinds of stuff in the office. Especially ducks: Apparently our ducks haven't yet evolved a Unicode strain that supports APL385, so the more interesting APL expressions can't be demonstrated by our aquatic friends.
 
@MartinEnder I think the growth rate is actually an open problem
In number theory, the divisor summatory function is a function that is a sum over the divisor function. It frequently occurs in the study of the asymptotic behaviour of the Riemann zeta function. The various studies of the behaviour of the divisor function are sometimes called divisor problems. == Definition == The divisor summatory function is defined as D ( x ) = ∑ n ≤ x d ( n ) = ∑ ...
Our sequence is the sum of this sequence of sums.
 
9:08 PM
it's actually a weighted sum of the divisor counts, but that's about the same, I guess
 
@MartinEnder Isn't it the running sum of the running sum of divisor counts?
 
I have a sum or i times divisorcount(n-i)
not sure if that's the same thing
also holy crap, the MtG challenge has an insane HNQ score of 400
 
@MartinEnder non-programmers on rpg.se probably hate you
 
Ok I have a dilemma. I have an answer for this question that will land us within 15 characters of a Brain-flak answer. If I post it I will essentially complete the challenge I have been working to complete for all this time but I will have to let someone else post the final answer and I really wanted to post the answer. wwyd?
 
I don't think magic is on rpg. Not sure though
 
9:22 PM
@DJMcMayhem Oh. bcg.se I guess? Too many sites...
 
Apparently MTG is turing complete...
 
which only convinces me that the concept of turing completeness isn't all that strong
 
@WheatWizard I'd say you've got two options. 1) You could let someone else post the last one before brain-flak, or 2) You could collaborate with someone else so that they post a non-brain-flak answer right after yours, and then you could post three answers (Your's-their's-brainflak) in rapid succession
 
Potatoes are turing complete
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1) feels slightly weird (since you wrote it) but would be easiest. 2) would definitely take some more work
 
9:25 PM
@fəˈnɛtɪk (Not trying to be snarky, it is interesting :))
 
Do you think it would be allowed if I wrote another answer and let someone else post it?
 
It's definitely unusual, but I've done it before.
Technically I wrote the MATL answer, haha
 
Could I just give my current answer to someone then?
and then post the Brain-flak afterwords
 
@HelkaHomba Does that mean you can make Turing-tots?
 
If I made it a community wiki could I post another one right after?
 
9:29 PM
@WheatWizard I'd be willing to post it for you. @MartinEnder Would that be weird or against the rules?
(scroll up for context)
 
@WheatWizard You could tell us the language and someone could come up with their own answer. I'd do it, but I added the last one :(
 
Its WSF
I also have a sort of working answer in Glypho
 
9:47 PM
> Uses a semi-custom BF interpreter in which cells can have infinite values, and there are 1048576 cells.
-1 for using non-wrapping cells
@ Mendeleev plz
 
there's nothing wrong with that
 
0
Q: Prison Architect, ASCII version

MinuetPrison Architect, ASCII version code-golf ascii-art Here is a diagram of a prison using ASCII characters: +------------------------------+ | | | X X | | | | D D ...

 
10:12 PM
CMC: Make a polyglot in Whitespace/WSF to do any nontrivial task.
Nontrivial meaning not "loop forever" or "error instantly", adding two numbers is probably enough of a mess to try to figure out.
 
export EDITOR="/usr/bin/rm"
 
10:35 PM
0
A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

MinuetChallenge about loudly interjecting in a courtroom code-golf One of the most important things about being a courtroom lawyer is loudly interjecting before you make your point. In this challenge, we're going to edit a typical courtroom transcript to include these interjections. Any lawyer (and ...

 
10:47 PM
@ГригорийПерельман Evil
 
I have a challenge idea
Though harder than tetris
 
uh oh
 
Extremely fun to solve
Make a De-plotter(Get the plot, output the equation)
 
an 800-order polynomial interpolator? Not fun to run.
 
10:55 PM
Right running would be cancer
Input the coca cola curve and wait for hours
 
11:06 PM
@DJMcMayhem did my replies fit with what you had in mind regarding improving the site?
(and you might be more careful in the future not to implicitly accuse people of never offering any ideas to improve the site)
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

CarcigenicateNumber Chaining Predicate Your task is to decide if in a sequence of numbers, every number contains at least one of the digits of the number that preceded it. For example, the following should return truthy: [1, 12, 203, 0, 30] ^ ^ Contains a 0 ^ Contains a 2 ^ Con...

 
@flawr hmmmmm
:P
nice img tho
@flawr lol
also, can anybody screencap this? can't view it atm (cc @flawr, do you have a direct image link hosted on imgur or the likes?)
 
11:25 PM
@Riker It's a b&w photo of a room of military types giving the finger to Hitler at a rostrum (they were probably originally saluting)
 
ah ok
 
when you have the honor of seeing a helka challenge posted "19 seconds ago" and upvoting
lol I didn't even see the chat link
just on main
 
@Riker Nah, read it first. I flub sometimes.
But this one should be fine
 
I already read it but I feel confident upvoting before reading
I mean I can always undo the vote, it's not going to take me more than 5 min to read the challenge :p
@DJMcMayhem lol, remember when you almost ran out of comment characters for a greeting comment? one I made earlier today hit 1 character left, and I didn't even have to edit any off :P
I think I broke the record, if any currently stand
 
11:47 PM
3
Q: Grids can be curvy. How long is yours?

Helka HombaConsider depicting a simple, open, two-dimensional curve on a W wide by H high grid of text where X represents part of the curve and . represents empty space and no other characters are used. Every grid space has 8 neighboring grid spaces, its Moore neighborhood. Grid spaces beyond the borders a...

 
@MistahFiggins holy shit is that the brainflak code for the divisor count challenge? 10/10 nj
 
I'm working on a userscript that shows a preview of the message you're about to send.
 
@ГригорийПерельман also, is your powers of two challenge really a repost of HW? it's a completly different task
 
Works with $\LaTeX$, images, and prettyfy too.
 
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Q: Can I give someone else my answer for a Answer chaining question?

Wheat WizardIt has been my goal for a while to make a Brain-Flak answer on this question. As of post we are 30 characters away from achieving this (15 are allowed per post). I have developed an answer that will put us at 15 away, but because of the rules on the challenge no one may post twice in a row, so ...

 
11:50 PM
and it does vary from answer to answer, and quickly gets above the levenshtein distance
 
@Riker Could I reasonably claim it's original?
 
IMO you could
 
I never really realized how big powers of two are.
It wasn't supposed to be a huge challenge, just something to make it a bit more intresting.
 
yeah, each answer is basically a KG, but it's not the same string each time
@ГригорийПерельман it was well recieved because it's fairly simple
most languages can do basic math
heck, a "times tables of 2" challenge would probably have been even better recieved
 
The thing is, we've run out of languages that are concise enough, have infinite precision ints, and can do exponentiation.
 
11:53 PM
also, @ГригорийПерельман the normal winning criterion is the answer that remains the last for 1/2 wks
mine's been here for over 2
do I get an accept? if so, would it change if a new answer comes?
 
Sure, I'll give you the green checkmark.
 
:D
LOOK MA I GOTTA CHECKMARK
 
And no, you've won this one.
 
oh cool :D
 
 
11:54 PM
lel
 
It doesn't accurately support oneboxing yet.
 
though @ГригорийПерельман maybe a 50 rep bounty to Okx for having the most answers?
I'd be happy to give the rep
 
Sure, if you want to.
 
Also, does anyone here have any clue how StackChat does OneBoxing?
 
nope
 
11:56 PM
@ATaco For images it's simple
 
Well yeah, I've already got similar functionality.
 
@Riker you lied to me. The listed winning criterion is having the most answers
ಠ_ಠ
 
wait wat
 
But I wanted proper oneboxing, so it's not just over-glorified MarkDown
 
> Scoring

Once things settle down, the user who submits the most (valid) answers wins. Ties go to the user with the most cumulative up-votes.
 
11:57 PM
looking at older examples:
> The first answer to survive after 7 days without any valid submissions after that is declared the winner.
> Once there have been no new answers for 14 days, the winner will be whoever posted the second newest answer, i.e. the largest polyglot that's been proven not to have broken the chain. Extending the chain after that is still very welcome, though!
and there's another that's most answers
@ГригорийПерельман it looks like it varies by challenge
 
Yeah
I can give you that 50 bounty tho
 
I'm content with not being accepted, but I'd like both the last standing answer and the user with the most answers to get something
@ГригорийПерельман <shrug> either way works for me
@ГригорийПерельман hm, maybe it would work better to give the bounty to Okx and me teh accept, because it's fairly clear which answer of mine to accept (the last one)
 
I can't give 50 rep bouinties
ಠ_ಠ
 
but okx has like 17 equally good ones
@ГригорийПерельман wot
 
11:59 PM
huh neither can I
that's odd
normally you can iirc
 

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