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6:00 PM
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ pay up! :)
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ por favor
 
I just woke up >_<
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ i wanna see this
 
Well, you're awake now!
 
yes
astute observation
 
6:00 PM
@Dennis Yeah but he first needs to find the small-caps to ASCII converter.
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@MartinEnder I don't get it
 
le profile refresh if you please
 
\o/
 
Bonjour
 
6:02 PM
salut
 
uh... quick tangent. am I the only one who finds it sad that my message got more stars than the "don't use flags as jokes" message? :/
 
no
 
@ConorO'Brien Welcome to Programming Puzzles & Code Golf chat!
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6:03 PM
you basically sayed "gimme stars"
 
gömme stars
...fuck
Autocorrect :(
 
this work in the same way if i say
gimme stars plz
 
@zyabin101 thanks I have grate idae for chellenge eet is a poopulareety conteest and I theenk it will be veery gud it will be vary vauge
eet will be gud
 
> poopulareety
look legit
 
6:06 PM
@MartinEnder It wasn't your fault
"/opt/jellyfish/vocab.py", line 660 is borked: threaded_binary(lambda a, b: [f(p) for p in infixes(a, int(b))], -1, 0)) (cc @Zgarb)
 
@TùxCräftîñg 💩 U+1F4A9 PILE OF POO
 
threaded_binary only takes 2 arguments, but @Zgarb gave it 3 (a lambda, -1, 0)
 
i can golf this word:
 
@MartinEnder In the meantime try to do it without the \ operator
 
\o/ I can now actually type @Conor's name! \:D/
 
6:07 PM
> 💩ularəty
 
@TùxCräftîñg "popularity"
 
@LeakyNun yeah, I had a solution for that earlier, but it wasn't very elegant. I'll just wait for it to be fixed.
 
@MartinEnder but it wouldn't be competing
 
> 💩pulareety
 
6:08 PM
@MartinEnder alright
 
i thought i would appreciate ascii Conor but it just looks off now
 
I'm curious now. Is there a way to see the starred messages in a room, sorted by stars?
 
don't listen to that guy
@ConorO'Brien you're looking great :)
 
@MartinEnder thanks :)
 
Star this message to get the normal Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ back. (need at least 35)
 
6:09 PM
@MartinEnder Should we create jellyfish room?
@Poke No stars for you.
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aw
 
@LeakyNun I'll let Zgarb create one if he wants to
 
@Poke (Proceeds to get no stars)
 
if this message get 40 stars i will remove the random accents in my name
 
@Poke who's he? his name looks German-Icelandic
 
6:10 PM
@MartinEnder How do I do f(g(a,b),h(c,d))?
 
haha who's ASCII-only
 
@ConorO'Brien It's not who a man is that defines him but what he is... and that man was a golfer.
 
f hd
gbc
a
 
@ConorO'Brien Mars-Ultor
@MartinEnder oh right
 
@LeakyNun HAHA WAT
hilarious
 
6:11 PM
@quartata Cinnamon Gum is strange and interesting.
 
so i keep the accents in my name
 
@Poke I. Am. That. Man!! :p
@TùxCräftîñg yes. don't expect it to work so soon :P
 
My surname is Ünlü lel
 
@MartinEnder I still don't get the diff between fncs and ops
 
6:12 PM
@TùxCräftîñg You're fine. I can actually type TûxCrãftîñg on my keyboard.
 
Everyone should just use base32 for their names :\
Hello, I'm Pke
 
@Dennis Spanish keyboard?
 
I just realized that Jelly can parse lists as truthy and falsey too
 
US international. The Mac variant, really.
 
US International, I hear
 
6:13 PM
@miles empty list is falsey
 
@miles That reminds me, has a bug that thankfully doesn't affect Ȧ.
 
@LeakyNun operators let you build higher-order functions from the built-in ones
 
Hello hello
 
@MartinEnder what does higher-order mean?
@grooveplex welcome
 
TIL ɪ ᴄᴀɴ ᴛʏᴘᴇ ꜱᴍᴀʟʟ ᴄᴀᴘꜱ with my compose key
 
6:14 PM
@Dennis thought i had dirt on my monitor until it moved with the rest of the text
 
that it takes functions as arguments and/or evaluates to a functoin
 
I think that might be the shortest FFT can be in Jelly now
 
Where can I find the Sandbox? :$
 
@MartinEnder like quicks in Jelly?
 
Oh my system did not like the latest systemd update.
 
6:15 PM
@LeakyNun I don't Jelly
 
@grooveplex The link is pinned in the sidebar on main.
 
@MartinEnder like adverb in J?
 
I don't J either.
 
@MartinEnder what APL-derived languages do you?
 
none
 
6:16 PM
@mınxomaτ You're absolutely right. Thanks!
 
@MartinEnder alright
 
To me “higher-order-function” implies some sort of first-classness.
In Jelly at least, quicks are not first-class
 
@Lynn Do you jellyfish?
 
no they're not quite first class in Jellyfish, I'd say
simple example, if there's a function f(a,b), then &f gives you a unary function that computes f(a,a)
 
You can’t pass (each) as an argument to a Jelly link, but you can pass map as an argument to a Haskell function.
 
6:18 PM
@LeakyNun like adverbs and conjunctions in J
 
@ConorO'Brien noted
@MartinEnder that's a quick in jelly and an adverb in J
but ops in jellyfish are stronger than those
 
10-by-10 grid of asterisks has 71 answers and 10 votes
 
ops in jellyfish can take two functions and transform iirc
@Lynn +17/-7 too controversial for me
 
@LeakyNun yes some of them do
 
Can anyone please make an example in Jellyfish on consecutive operators, I can get fold addition over a range but I can't make cumulative sums over a range
 
6:22 PM
@miles cumulative op (\) is borked
 
oh is it, nvm then
 
Did I do this thing right?
 
in my console emulator, I have ruby, javascript, cheddar, python, and J open :P
 
@grooveplex see my comment
@ConorO'Brien +1 for cheddar
 
6:24 PM
@grooveplex Thanks for using the sandbox :) That said, your challenge is a bit underspecified (you don't explain the number without a link, and you are missing stuff like what base, etc) in addition, I think it is probably a dupe of: codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/68685/31625
 
@LeakyNun thanks
 
Well I guess I tried? :/
 
@grooveplex don't give up
 
@miles Yeah, with \ it would probably not be too hard but using only / it's a bit trickier
 
@LeakyNun The question you linked to is a sort-of duplicate
 
6:27 PM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

a25bedc5-3d09-41b8-82fb-ea6c353d75aeYour task is to print the Champernowne constant (A033307) indefinitely. There must be no spaces in your output and the solution with the fewest bytes wins!

 
Also I'm not sure about 'what base' and all other questions those golfing language require an answer to
 
@NewSandboxedPosts u r l8 m8 i r8 u 0/8 u no gr8
 
Any opinions on this?
 
If anyone out there is still supporting Trump, please stop, for the love or your world or country or rationality or plain decency. Clinton is not perfect, understood. But she is not nearly as erroneous and unpredictable. (And I'd be happy to discuss.)
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Giant Meteor 2016
 
6:30 PM
@grooveplex I was referring to the constant, it can be expressed in any base and there isn't anything in your post suggesting the base 10 constant. For example, in base 2 it would be: 0.11011100101...
 
@Adnan iz nice
 
But not here. Please keep politics in a politics chat.
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@betseg thenks u
 
@MartinEnder halp how map
 
@LeakyNun I think you just make use of threading
 
6:33 PM
I wish a politics chat for PPCG!
 
@HelkaHomba No no you've got it all wrong. We should vote for Trump to punish America for putting us in this situation so it doesn't happen again. If he's truly terrible he'll get impeached. gg
 
Building Poof!
 
@Poke I'm sure he'd get impeached, but who knows what he can do in that time between election and impeachment?
 
3 mins ago, by betseg
Giant Meteor 2016
 
commence argument go
 
6:34 PM
@LeakyNun That language question is interesting. I don't know the reason, but it's a common pattern among (irregular) third-conjugation verbs. For example: venir, decir, sentir, herir
 
@mınxomaτ Yeah, fair enough. I know mixing politics and internet forums rarely goes well. But the election does rile me up and this is one small way I can publicly express my opinion :S
 
@betseg Yeah, I saw that already.
 
> ction does rile me up
Exactly the reason.
 
@miles figured it out: jellyfish.tryitonline.net/…
 
@MartinEnder very nice I'll soak it in
 
6:36 PM
@LuisMendo alright
 
@El'endiaStarman impeachment != removal iirc
 
@ConorO'Brien That too. There's no guarantee he'd be convicted and kicked out of office.
And even if he were, the next in line would be his Vice President.
 
OK, I'm attempting to make a PPCG Politics room. brb
Done.

 PPCG Politics

Politics chat for Programming Puzzles and Code Golf
@zyabin101
 
@MartinEnder halp how identity function
 
0
Q: HiLo- the game of guessing

tuskiomiHiLo is a simple game between 2 people. One picks a number between 1 and 100, and the other tries to guess it. If the guesser's number is too high, the picker says "lower", and if the geusser's number is too low, the picker says "higher". The guesser tries to use the smallest ammount of guesses t...

 
6:42 PM
@mınxomaτ I think it's important to stay aware of current political issues, far better in my opinion than the philosophy of staying completely out of it. Though I agree, letting them emotionally affect you is not constructive.
 
cat program in my new esolang, 26 bytes: ЕEΕEЕЕЕΕЕЕЕЕΕΕ
 
I stay aware of political issues and pretend they're not real.
 
@LeakyNun Isn't that just leaving whitespace?
 
@FryAmTheEggman never mind, i used + for that
i'm talking about when you need to get an argument 100 km away
 
6:47 PM
I should make a cat program in DOG
 
Fooling around with dog is not your business, cat.
 
@FryAmTheEggman @MartinEnder halp how find index in array
 
DOG only takes integer input though, so it would be kind of a lame cat
 
@betseg what is that?
 
6:50 PM
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A: Is this number Loeschian?

Leaky NunJellyfish, 55 bytes pn + + `1 /+&* `/* x&;r+i 1 1 Try it online! A fork of my Jelly answer.

\o/
 
@ConorO'Brien someone broke a chatbot
 
huh
cool
 
> Holding this spot while I work on the answer.
 
@DmitryKudriavtsev, that's basically completely unnecessary.
 
To be clear: no harm done, but still, you don't need to do that.
 
@TùxCräftîñg Oh my...
 
If you want to have a song stuck in your head for the rest of the day:
 
@TùxCräftîñg basically brainfuck
 
@LeakyNun not really
it has a tape, but operations are effectued on the accumulator
 
6:53 PM
@TùxCräftîñg I made a lang like that with all the ZWSP and similar characters.
 
You
hello
 
2
Q: Permute a string using Bit-Reversal

milesPreviously, we computed the Bit-Reversal Permutation where we found how the order of indices would be permuted. Now we want to apply that permutation to a string. Your goal is to create a function or program that given a string where the length is a power of 2, output the permutation of it using...

 
You
@TUXCRAFTING
 
Is it @You? :O
 
6:55 PM
CMC: Hello world in Same
 
You
@zyabin101 Yep. It is me, @You, and not you.
 
this is too vague ._.
 
@TùxCräftîñg what is the difference between same and bf?
 
@betseg same have a accumulator
 
Or are they the same ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
7:01 PM
ಠ_ಠ
 
You
¯_¯
 
Can anyone tell me why the following is returning None?
>>> def f(p):
 if p<3:return[p]
 else:f([p//2,p*3+1][p%2])+[p]


>>> f(4)
 
because you forget the return in the else -_-
 
Oh for the love of God
And this? f=lambda p:[p]and p<3or f([p//2,p*3+1][p%2])+[p]
 
this should work
 
7:06 PM
@Sherlock9 ⭐ for ♥ in code
 
because : has a higher precedence than lambda
:P
 
And yet, I get a "Can't add bool to list error"
 
Your lambda isn't the same as your function
 
same is everywhere
 
You want p<3and[p]or... I think.
 
7:09 PM
f=lambda p:p<3and[p]or f([p//2,p*3+1][p%2])+[p]
 
You
@TùxCräftîñg I thought everywhere is always the same.
 
0
Q: Build a digital clock in Conway's Game of Life

Joe Z.Since my Tetris question seems to evade being answered even to this day, I thought I'd create a slightly easier challenge, one that doesn't need any user input. Your task is to build a Game of Life simulation representing a digital clock. This clock must visibly display the hours and minutes ...

\o/ quest for the degital clock
 
"easier"
 
You
GOL is in no way "easy." :(
 
Anyone here know how to PHP? :D
 
7:12 PM
-14
Q: Downvoting needs to change

Beta DecayAs shown by a recent challenge, once a few people have downvoted a question (say, three or four) everyone else thinks that they should downvote too leading to incredibly low scores. I think we need a reform on how we downvote and/or what we downvote on. This will stop people from becoming dishea...

someone should downvote
 
Done, -15 has been restored
 
starts thousand yard staring
 
awkward
 
@BetaDecay I wouldn't consider myself an expert but I use it at work
 
@TùxCräftîñg Thanks a bunch.
f=lambda p:[]if p<3else f([p//2,p*3+1][p%2])+[p] also works
 
7:13 PM
k
 
And I could probably use [] better anyway
 
You
I upvoted.
 
@BusinessCat I have a PHP script which I wish to access via JavaScript but have no domain on which to host it...
 
@you do dis ;_;
 
You
MUAHAHAHA!!!
 
7:14 PM
how long has everyone here been golfing?
 
-15 restored
 
You
:(
 
@BusinessCat Are there any free hosting places where I can put it?
 
You
-16 confirmed.
 
-15 restored
 
You
7:15 PM
Still -16. :P
 
ugh -16
 
You
nm
 
no its -15
 
@JustinTervay Roughly a year.
 
2 months
 
7:16 PM
@BetaDecay I don't know any off the top of my head
 
I've never done any code golfing before I joined here.
 
@JustinTervay I've been doing it badly for a few months
 
You
1 day I actually did it. Now I just hang out in the chat.
 
@BusinessCat Oh, okay :P
 
@JustinTervay I'm not a golfer. I find the golf challenges (and solutions) interesting, but I've mostly only answered other challenge types
 
7:17 PM
@you have upgaoted -15 ;_;
 
@JustinTervay I think I've been here for around three years
 
ohai @BetaDecay
 
@TùxCräftîñg Don't worry, there's a lot more to PPCG than memes
 
You
@TùxCräftîñg Favorited. :P
 
@ConorO'Brien I'm back now :)
 
7:19 PM
@BetaDecay welcome back! I knew you were somewhere!
 
You
@BetaDecay Don't let your beta particles decay away. :)
 
Hahaha I've been around in the shadows
Exams were in the way
 
@BetaDecay freehostia.com ?
 
now i should create a same variant using invisible characters
 
@BetaDecay I can spare you a server if you want (for free).
 
7:21 PM
@ConorO'Brien reading your username is so relaxing compared to before...
 
@trichoplax bows
 
@mınxomaτ Gee, I appreciate the offer but I don't want to inconvenience :)
 
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Q: Build a digital clock in Conway's Game of Life

Joe Z.Since my Tetris question seems to evade being answered even to this day, I thought I'd create a slightly easier challenge, one that doesn't need any user input. Your task is to build a Game of Life simulation representing a digital clock. This clock must visibly display the hours and minutes ...

4
 
@BetaDecay I don't need it anyway.
 
7:22 PM
@NewMainPosts ninja'd :D
 
Thank you @NewMainPosts
 
@NewMainPosts Mod plz eleven XD
 
srs a digital clock is not "easy"
 
@Adnan Not this again...
 
@NewMainPosts do you think you can solve it?
 
7:22 PM
@trichoplax Hahaha
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ change your username to ASCII too?
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@TùxCräftîñg "I HAVE A 24/7/365 JOB."
 
@Jellyfishpeople Thanks for the interest! Binary `\` indeed is borked. I'll probably look into it tomorrow. And I guess I should create a room.
 
@mınxomaτ Hm alright, I'll get back to you tomorrow when I've got time
 
where is the all-caps message :/
 
7:24 PM
Can chat rooms be created on mobile?
 
Lemme see
 
@BetaDecay Send me an email, so I can send you the FTP credentials. And tell me if you need a SQL database, too.
 
so who will work on the quest for the digital clock?
 
@Zgarb Yup.
 
You
@TùxCräftîñg Not You.
 
7:24 PM
@Zgarb Affirmative
 
> You have fully used your vote allowance for today
rip
 
@mınxomaτ Sure
 
@TùxCräftîñg eyy me too
 
You
:(

Here lies TùxCräftîñg.
He was... good at something...
 
@TùxCräftîñg Seems wrong to edit it now it's been starred. Presumably the people starring want to draw attention to the challenge...
 
7:25 PM
@BetaDecay At minxomat@gmail.com or squarecode@web.de, whatever you want.
 
@TùxCräftîñg Congratulations!
@TùxCräftîñg I messaged the Quest for Tetris developers about this.
 

 Jellyfish

Discussion about Jellyfish, Zgarb's 2D language. GitHub: githu...
 
5 pings
waw
 
@zyabin101 said devs are tetris devs, not clock devs
 
@TùxCräftîñg You can get slightly more votes per day by voting for questions first
@TùxCräftîñg Easier than an analogue clock...
 
7:27 PM
and easier than a computer, i agree, but...
 
i dont even know how to do a glider gun, so i think this challenge is not for me :/
 
You
People make computers in GoL? Woah.
 

 The Quest for Tetris

For discussing this: goo.gl/kuCiRF | VarLife: goo.gl/StrPLC |...
 
People make computers out of everything
 
You
7:28 PM
I made a minecraft computer once. :)
 
People make everything out of GoL
 
@You specs?
 
My girlfriend is made out of GoL
 
user image
2
 
You
@TùxCräftîñg Horrible. I lost the file too. I plan on making a better one.
 
7:29 PM
A graphic designer I am not :/
 
You
@BetaDecay I should try that too.
 
@Geobits Pingu-mon?
 
You
@Geobits I like it. :)
 
Don't try the QR yet, it's not quite live yet.
 
You
One star for you. (And You too?)
 
7:30 PM
@Geobits exempt
exempt exempt exempt
 
I'll be walking around passing out cards to people walking the lake later tonight :)
@zyabin101 I have no idea what you mean by that.
 
Argh the exempt--- poof
@Geobits I'm exempt from that.
 
@You Someone made a GBA with Pokémon on it in Minecraft
 
I don't think exempt means what you think it means...
 
you've said exempt pretty much as many times as other words
@FryAmTheEggman haha +1
 
7:32 PM
@BusinessCat the hardest thing was probably the game cartridge...
 
You
@BusinessCat No comment.
 
Well it just has a few maps and all you can do is move around
 
You
Oh.
I thought you could capture pokemon and battle.
 
Not yet, but I think he's working on it
 
2 days ago, by Sherlock9
It probably means, no thanks
 
7:35 PM
That's not really what it means at all though :?
 
You
@BusinessCat That would be a lot to build, though. Add a set of pokemon scattered throughout the map with different moves.
 
brb in a time
 
@TùxCräftîñg A time is not a valid unit of time.
 
You
@TùxCräftîñg Error: NaN.
Bye anyways. :P
 
@zyabin101 I've said that a few times.
;)
 
7:37 PM
@zyabin101 not with that attitude
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@You Bye!
 
You
Wait, I'm not leaving. :P
I was saying bye to TuxCrafting. :P
But now bye. :P
 
@ASCII-only so are you ASCII, somebody, or Mars?
 
@Downgoat Why not both all three? :P
 
7:49 PM
@Lynn Thanks! It's got a ways to go but I feel like it has potential
 
Who is @ConorO'Brien? I've never seen him in here before. He kinda reminds me of C n r O'Bri n
 
@Geobits The Hunt for Red Brocktober?
2
 
@quartata: I tried to print a 10x10 square of asterisks in it, to no avail
 
Now that people are showing interest in it I should probably make those docs huh
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan He's german.
 
7:50 PM
It really needs docs >_>
 
in a stacked based language, should it be "variable" value = or value "variable" =?
 
@Lynn p%~*~<literal newline>%![10,10] will do the trick after I push a bug fix
 
@ConorO'Brien the former
 
7:55 PM
GolfScript-likes do 123:A to store 123 in A.
I like that order of things
 
Since it's stack based, I'm assuming this is not a "serious" language? Why not both, or make one of them have some other behaviour?
 
@FryAmTheEggman because the variable name is stored in a string.
@Lynn I'd do that, but I want readable variable names
I suppose I could do value=variable=
@Lynn how does recalling variables work? just referencing A again?
 
Yep
 
so it overrides commands? or are the capital letters numbers or something
 

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