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10:00 PM
Starred so I can find it later
 
@El'endiaStarman well, this certainly makes the controller easier
@Rainbolt it's likely going to be my next KoTH
I dunno, though. I really like the 5-hexagon movement rule
meaning, if they have a warrior on the opposite end of their territory, I know I'm safe taking some of their territory
 
I like the quick expansion afforded by the any-distance rule. :P
 
10:13 PM
._. I was just trying to code ruby in js. no wonder everything I has is broken
 
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ I voted for "Please no" because you just can't match the capability of text to express ideas, but on the other hand, the emoji you used for the "yes" option really gets the sentiment across. Thus, I think emoji definitely has its place, not instead of normal text, but with normal text.
 
^. I can't wait for the day when one can use emoji in books without being looked at strangely
If 2 => dyad, 1 => monad, 0 => nilad, what would "inverse" be, with the "ad" naming convention? "negad"?
 
@quartata ` - [ ] name` Github allows you to check checkboxes when viewing
 
@ConorO'Brien Possibly. But does such a thing even exist?
Does it like, produce another element that can be acted upon?
 
10:26 PM
ah, no. you define it
 
For example, the negad of "square" is "sqrt"
 
@ConorO'Brien I have Mathematica
@ConorO'Brien You could look at it as negative functional exponentiation
 
@LeakyNun Farewell and good luck on your exams! I'll be lucky if I have Cheddar v1 finished when you get back though :P
 
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ okay. does mathematica have a limit function?
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ yes, that's what I'm defining it for
 
10:28 PM
@ConorO'Brien What are you taking the limit of?
 
@ConorO'Brien the question doesn't make any sense because the "ad" naming convention is about how many arguments the function takes
 
@DJMcMayhem yes
wait
damn
it just flowed naturally in my head :P
 
So if "square" is a monad, "sqrt" is too
 
yes
I was trying to use it synonymously with inverse
silly me
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ arbitrary functions
 
10:30 PM
I think you could still define operators that produce arguments instead of consuming them, and they might rightly be called "negads".
 
true...
producing arguments... is that different in any way from returning them?
 
Not really
 
wtf is this unicode witchraft on the starboard?
3
 
^
:O you changed your avatar
 
Wow, I have 14 stars? I've never gotten more than 11 before
 
10:32 PM
@Downgoat its a bug. But SE devs would call it a feature
 
@DJMcMayhem you're a powerful speaker :3
 
@ConorO'Brien blushes in fake modesty Oh stop....
 
Well, suppose you wanted to write a program using JavaScript. You can't simply tell it to 'solve the problem', you have to give an explicit list of instructions explaining how to solve the problem. — user2910074 Dec 9 '15 at 17:11
@DJMcMayhem bows
 
@ConorO'Brien Limit as in 𝑒 = lim_(𝑥→∞) (𝑥 + 1/𝑥)^𝑥, or limit as in 𝑥 = 𝑓(𝑥)? Mathematica can do both, to reasonable limits (pun definitely not intended)
 
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ the former.
 
10:34 PM
@ConorO'Brien Yeah, Mathematica has loads of support for that
 
@DJMcMayhem because you are very good speech writer and llittle spelling mistaked 10/10
 
ah, interesting. Any docs on those? I want to steal adapt their approach
 
@ConorO'Brien Jon Skeet just tells javascript to solve the problem and the code not only writes itself, but also optimizes itself!
 
great idea. except we don't have access to Jon Skeet :P
 
Malbodge is considered a 4gl for him.
 
10:37 PM
@El'endiaStarman I've actually noticed something bizzare (on my android version). The turn order was A->B->C. Territory A was losing 2 per turn, and had 2 in its reserves. A did nothing. B took one of A's hexes. C did nothing. A had 0 in its reserves, and was losing 3 per turn. B did nothing. C did nothing. A's units died
aka, the gold was subtracted at the end of the turn
 
:O Dennis is almost at 100K too
 
but the units didn't actually die until the start of their next turn
 
@Downgoat much compliment. such speech. very thank
 
._____. he git 90K just 27 days ago
@DJMcMayhem :3 much old meme such doge :P
 
@NathanMerrill I think this behavior is probably most desirable.
 
10:40 PM
@Adnan you there?
 
You definitely have to check to see if units die after hexes have been captured, since the additional hexes might generate enough income for them to survive. Having them die at the start of the next turn more closely models starvation too.
 
@Downgoat no, I just thought it was hilarious that you complemented my spelling/grammar with speelin mitsakes and badder grammer
:P
 
the irony is thick
 
@DJMcMayhem ಠ_ಠ how dare you call my disabilities mistaked ;_; ಠ_ಠ
 
user image
4
I need ideas for what to change the banner to
It's supposed to be a EULA (End User License Agreement) but on our dev systems we change it to say silly stuff
 
10:46 PM
@Rainbolt XD
 
@Rainbolt "You will agree to this."
 
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Q: End the tabs versus space war

Rohan JhunjhunwalaEnd the tabs versus space war So, there has been a great deal of debate of whether to use tabs or spaces to indent/format code. Can you help the university settle the dispute, by going to an incredibly crazy unique method of formatting. Your job is to write a full program or function which expa...

 
22 minutes.
 
@ConorO'Brien idk, the whole thing is symbolic (and closed-source)
 
If any of you were wondering what The Onion would be like if its writers were Christian, look no further: In Effort to Woo Moderates, Trump Considers Not Building Wall Until Second Decade of Presidency.
 
10:56 PM
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ darn
 
@El'endiaStarman is that real?
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ No. Well, I don't think so. The Babylon Bee is a satire news site, just like The Onion.
 
no, it isn't
 
@Downgoat yes
 
@El'endiaStarman oh okay
ninja'ed
 
10:57 PM
lol. second decade of presidency
 
@Adnan does this answer of yours correctly implement the consecutive character rule?
 
@ConorO'Brien Yeah, that cracked me up too.
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Bahahaha yes, indeed. :P
 
@Downgoat consecutive character rule?
aww
 
> If two consecutive characters are the same (case-sensitive), the probability of one of them being modified should be the same as if they are one character. I.e. the outputs for AA (which are AA or A or AAA) should all have the same probability.
 
10:59 PM
@quartata Rotor and pl updated successfully. CG has a conflict.
 
@El'endiaStarman :P
@ConorO'Brien lol
 
@Dennis It does?
 
@Downgoat That's a bit in contradiction with:
> The chance for removing/duplicating a given character in the input should be the same for all chars.
 
@quartata In DOCS.md. How is that even possible? o_O
 
@ConorO'Brien Idea: Binary search until accurate enough
 
10:59 PM
One second.
What I did was rather strange so I'm not surprised it broke something
 
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ binary search an infinite domain?
sorry for pings
 
@Downgoat I'll delete it for now, lemme see if I can fix it
 
@quartata I'll just delete the folder and clone a clean copy.
 
@ConorO'Brien Say you're taking lim_(𝑥→∞) 𝑓(𝑥), you'd calculate 𝑓(1), 𝑓(2), 𝑓(4), 𝑓(8), etc.
 
@Dennis Yeah, go ahead and clone it again.
 
11:01 PM
wait
 
Just cloned it and it was fine.
 
:32039183 What? I totally didn't ping you by accident. >_>
 
:32039186 #TNBchatproblems
 
@ConorO'Brien ?
@El'endiaStarman >_> wait why doens't that ping me
 
@ConorO'Brien If it doesn't converge in some number of steps, then say it has no limit
 
11:01 PM
OK, I think I've reached the pinnacle of bad Nethack code: dodip
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I tried to reply to a deleted message.
 
It was obviously written by the same person who wrote buzz because man is it bad
gotos too
 
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ I'll try that
 
Aug 21 at 23:54, by Dennis
Feature-request: Chat should stop moving when I'm trying to select someting. :P
 
11:02 PM
@El'endiaStarman oh okay, it didn't show the little <- thing
 
I have no idea how it works at all.
 
@quartata buzz?
 
shouts everyone stop talking! Dennis needs to select something! :P
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ buzz is the main function for wands/breath weapons
 
@quartata Scorched Earth approach: works every time!
 
11:02 PM
o_O why the name
 
Basically just anything that's a zap
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I don't know.
@Dennis heh
 
okay then
buzz it is
 
I think it's because the ray "buzzes" the player?
 
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ I just realized that "𝑓" isn't just italics, it's its own char >_>
 
It's weird. When I first saw it I thought it was for terminal bell
The parameters actually fit too
 
11:04 PM
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ what sounds like a reasonable number of steps? 40?
 
Does any of you know a usable alternative for FontForge? It's craptastic.
 
@Dennis Where do you need FontForge for?
 
@Dennis Do you just need a font viewer?
 
@Adnan I want to make sure that TIO v2 looks exactly the same on all devices, so I either have to include 99 fonts via CSS or create one that does everything I need.
I'll be able to with FontForge, but it's a pain to use.
 
Never tried it but birdfont looks good.
 
11:09 PM
Bah, not in the repos...
 
It should be if you have Utopic.
 
The only one I know who makes fonts is ETHProductions, but he hasn't been online for months.
 
What is Utopic?
 
Utopic Unicorn
 
openSUSE user here.
 
11:10 PM
Oh, gotcha.
Sorry, I remember you mentioning you used Ubuntu for TIO currently so I just assumed you were using it on your desktop currently too
 
v2 will actually run on Fedora.
But yes, v1 runs on Ubuntu. I had an Ubuntu VPS long before I actually tried Linux on the desktop after my failed attempts in the previous millennium.
 
@Dennis warning: fedora cannot run wordpresss
 
That's a feature, not a bug.
 
;_;
 
Definitely a feature
 
11:12 PM
^
 
is the limit (n -> infty) of n ^ (1/n) = sqrt[2]?
 
Any blog platform that consumes more than 2 GB under light load is not of this earth and should be eradicated
 
;_, y yall haet Wordpress
@quartata I have 3.5 GB
 
@Downgoat Don't you hate it? You constantly complain about running out of memory
 
I get 0 visitors
 
My main concern for TIO v2 is security, and Fedora seemed a much better choice than Ubuntu in that matter.
@Downgoat Well, you certainly don't have to worry about memory consumption then.
 
@MitchSchwartz That's exactly the settings I assume most of the time, so I'm good with that :)
 
@Dennis you'd think...
 
@Dennis how about windows server :p
 
@quartata Wordpress is nice, mariadb is the one that is evil
 
11:16 PM
@Adnan I'd rather shoot myself in the foot, thank you very much.
9
 
Hahahahaha
 
@Dennis Only in the foot?
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ @Doorknob PSA: If you can't find a pool and run out of water in this build, don't come crying to me because I'm literally doing this:
 
Seems the perfect mix between serious pain and non-eternal consequences.
 
#ifdef QNETHACK
        if(!rn2(3))
          mkroom(SWAMP);
#endif
In other words, 1/3rd of the time you'll find a pool
AND it does normal special room generation on top. So below level 15 you could find two swamps on the same level.
 
11:22 PM
OK, just found this on top of dodrink():
/* "Quaffing is like drinking, except you spill more." - Terry Pratchett */
Wonderful.
This gives me good hopes for the code I'm about to witness
 
OH THANK GOODNESS
It was written by the same guy who wrote eat.c (I'm starting to tell who wrote what)
It all makes sense
hahahaha I didn't know about this:
    if (Underwater && !u.uswallow) {
        if (yn("Drink the water around you?") == 'y') {
            pline("Do you know what lives in this water?");
            return 1;
        }
    }
 
Okay guys can haz help with vague puzzle?
 
sure
 
11:26 PM
I've only been given 8 numbers
 
@Syxer Oh hey, I don't think I've seen you here before
 
And I know there's text at the end of it.
 
Welcome
 
@quartata It's I, VTC
 
@quartata It's Vtcjsjaijidqwwq
 
11:26 PM
Oh.
 
22 54 43 80
43 13 48 59
 
I should have noticed considering you still have VITSY FOR PRESIDENT on your profile
 
@quartata ;)
The only real hint I have is that the number 22 looks faintest.
And that it's relevant to online gaming.
 
So maybe it's a sequence that starts at 22?
 
As in, the difference from?
So a0 = 22, a1 = 54, etc?
 
11:29 PM
Well, I don't think 54 is the next element necessarily
But "looks faintest" implies some form of ordering
 
And it should be fairly simple - nothing overly complex.
In case anyone is wondering what this is related to: link
It's a sign above them and to the right.
(and I'm certain that it's on purpose)
 
@Syxer I think you're missing an × symbol at the left
Maybe it has to do something with multiplication
 
Isn't js a scripting language through and through?
 
@Adnan Is the x on the sign too? O.o
 
I mean just the type system and the tackiness gives a scripting taste.
 
11:37 PM
@Syxer yes
 
@Adnan Hmm. I'll try a bunch o' things with multiplication, then.
 
Windows Server®: Did you just put "Windows" and "Server" together?™
 
Ya i have palimdromic rep
 
That's it. I'm using a VM.
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei ?
 
@Adnan Ah, I see the x now.
 
11:40 PM
@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC 808. Palindromic.
 
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei ??
palindromic I get but...
OH! REPUTATION!
 
????????!?!?!?!?!one1?!?#!@#!@!!
 
can you not spam?
 
^
 
11:43 PM
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ to who?
 
O____O even IE supports execCommand but safari cdoesn't ;_;
 
I don't understand
 
@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC you're just smashing your keyboard. You're spamming the chatroom by doing that
 
@Downgoat No "?!?!?" == don't understand.
That's why there's a bunch of "?" and then blocked out swear words and anger
 
@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC ?
 
11:45 PM
"one1?!?#!@#!@!!" == ?
 
> ????????!?!?!?!?!one1?!?#!@#!@!!
that's spam
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ it means "I don't understand what you just said."
 
eh, we've cluttered the chatroom more discussing if it's spam then just leaving it
its only one message anyway
 
@Downgoat I mean, it is one line, and also conveys confusion.
 
11:45 PM
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Q: Boxes And Lines

TheBitByte The above image is an ASCII art. Notice how the space inside the "box" shape increases by one space each time, from left to right. Your task is to, given an input of a number (which is the number of spaces inside the box shape), produce the corresponding ASCII art. With the exception of the ...

 
Oops, I forgot how mkroom works. Just went down a level to find 6 swamps.
 
> 5 secs ago
 
I mean, that's not a bad thing but that's still a lot
I think I'll increase it to 1/4 perhaps
 
I love how off-topic we can be in TNB.
It really is a nerd's republic.
 
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei First one is one off?
 
11:48 PM
@quartata i didn't post the question
 
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei No, I know.
 
@El'endiaStarman Yo, grammar score chat SQL query? i.e. usage of "i" vs. 'I", etc.
 
ColdGolf has really got to start using the sandbox :/
 
dammit
not easterlyirk
sorry
 
11:50 PM
@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC idk sql
lol el'endia
 
idk sql too
 
@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC vs ı vs İ
 
been using Django.
 
@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Not easy.
 
11:54 PM
@Sp3000 ok thanks!
 
@El'endiaStarman or semi-related: measure flesch-kinkaid readbility test, implementations should be available
per user
 
@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Feel free to do that yourself.
 
welp my score's going south like Sherman
 
@El'endiaStarman you've said that to me before.
 
@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Hmm, I wonder why... :P
 
11:56 PM
No love for my challenge
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Q: End the tabs versus space war

Rohan JhunjhunwalaEnd the tabs versus space war So, there has been a great deal of debate of whether to use tabs or spaces to indent/format code. Can you help the university settle the dispute, by going to an incredibly crazy unique method of formatting. Your job is to write a full program or function which expa...

Answers but no upvotes
 
@RohanJhunjhunwala brb fixing
3
 
@Downgoat thanks
 
@El'endiaStarman hm, with your database and a python library that literally just gives you a straight up function,
I think I can do this...
 

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