The Nineteenth Byte

@ReleasingHeliumNuclei Now malicious codes are off-topic

Releasing Helium Nuclei

@LeakyNun we can still DDoS OEIS, no?

@ReleasingHeliumNuclei you aren't going to DDoS OEIS by normal questions

It isn't like 1000 people are sending a request at the same time

@ReleasingHeliumNuclei We also don't really want to create ill will with one of our biggest sources of challenge ideas... ;)

@flawr Can't tell if that's a joke...

it wasn't labelled

4:05 PM

(neither was mine...)

so clearly, you weren't joking :P

function(s) {
    return function(n) {
        return (((require)("http")).get)((((("http://oeis.org/").op_add(s)).op_add("/b")).op_add(((s).slice)(1))).op_add(".txt"))(function(r) {
            return ((console).log)(r);
        });
    }
};

i am getting SyntaxError: Unexpected token (

Or I was making a point about what would happen if I took flawr's labelling advice...

oh nvm

oh no nvm it still fail

@TùxCräftîñg is this is BF?

in*

because that'd explain why it doesn't work

4:07 PM

it's a js code generated from Neoscript

You forgot to label...

Guys

"the empty string" or "an empty string"?

Rainbolt

Both are correct depending on context

but there's only one empty string

in implementation?

that's what I heard happens in Java

or C

Is "hello" and "hello" equal?

Rainbolt

4:14 PM

"" is an empty string. Is the previous sentence grammatically or logically incorrect?

@NathanMerrill in Java they are equal

@Rainbolt Is the sentence factually correct?

Rainbolt

That's what I just asked...

@LeakyNun how are you testing? "hello"=="hello" doesn't always return true

@NathanMerrill You can't compare strings using "==" in java, iirc

yeah you can. you shouldn't though

4:16 PM

@NathanMerrill Nope

@T.Lukin Nope

Luis Mendo

@flawr Well, that can I say. It's a nice city, although you may not like its extreme, dry weather @Maltysen

@LeakyNun new String("hello") == "hello"

@NathanMerrill then you are not comparing "hello" and "hello"

@ASCII-only In case you're interested, I got it to work in Chrome now.

which is what you were asking

4:17 PM

@LeakyNun yeah you are. The only reason "hello" == "hello" is because of string interning, which isn't guaranteed

@NathanMerrill It is guaranteed, unless you twirk it around like new String("hello")

new String("hello") is just a way of enforcing that it doesn't happen

"hello"=="hello" is always true

Is this JS?

No, Java is not Javascript

4:19 PM

I didn't see what language you were talking about. :P

In that case, "hello" == "hello", but new String("hello") != "hello" because, since Strings are immutable, the JVM reuses existing strings unless explicitly defined otherwise.

The "hello"s in new String("hello") != "hello" are still equal

But using new String is one of the worst things ever

just that by passing it in the constructor, you made a new object

which made them not equal

That's correct.

using java is the worst thing ever

4:21 PM

Because they're two different objects.

I'd rather use Java than C

ಠ_ಠ

If you wanna see what I mean with the storing of strings upon declaration through "", use javap -pc <filename>.class to decode the bytecode.

@LeakyNun I looked it up, you are right that String interning is guaranteed

Java is one of the languages I use most often

4:23 PM

@NathanMerrill I've learnt Java for 10 years, it's my first language

@BusinessCat Same.

Maltysen

@Poke they help other people find devs, but they used their own product themselves and found me and want to hire me.

@BusinessCat I usually use Pyth or Retina now since they're so terse

Maltysen

Here is the email:

i use Javascript or Python for most of my projects, and C for 'performance critical' projects

Maltysen

4:24 PM

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@LeakyNun mine as well...and I knew it would happen, but I didn't know it was guaranteed

@Maltysen wot

I like golfing in JS, but I'm not that good at it

actually,now that I think about it, TI Basic was my first language

my first 'language' was minecraft commands

4:26 PM

Java is a good language in general, it just sucks for golfing

@TùxCräftîñg Actually, this is true for me as well, I just didn't count it, lol.

only problem: i started minecraft in 1.4 ;_;

what language has the biggest "potential" for golfing (size of typical program/size of golfed program)?

The first language I ever used was Batch.

I'm thinking perl

4:27 PM

But it was terrible and I decided against learning it further.

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@NathanMerrill It depends on what you mean by "typical" program

my first real programming language was Java

and after HTML/CSS

I think Perl too. I've seen Perl be competitive with golfing langs

@T.Lukin you're right, but "typical" is hard to define

4:29 PM

Id probably say something in the realm of perl or python, something less verbose than the C or Java types

sometimes Javascript is pretty good at golfing too

Downgoat

question: how to do docs where i have seperate sqrt cbrt and root operators? Should I put root on one page and make sqrt, cbrt on subpages of root, or put them all together on one page?

@Downgoat depends on how you treat other arithmetic operators

Downgoat

@LeakyNun Right now each operator has it's one page

I would say same page

Or at least link between them since they're related

4:32 PM

Yeah, I'd say make them subpages of root