The Nineteenth Byte

@MarsUltor netrw is also builtin but it sucks. I've recently heard good things about :Lexplore but I've never actually tried that. There are also plugins abound.

Upgoat

@MarsUltor yeah

Doorknob

@MarsUltor ZZ

Upgoat

ctrl+z also works

Doorknob

2:07 AM

That doesn't quit.

Upgoat

eh, kinda

Mars Ultor

@Upgoat Suspend != quit

Doorknob

No, it doesn't.

Mars Ultor

Code folding?

Upgoat

well it exits neovim, depends on how strict your definition of quit is

Doorknob

2:07 AM

@MarsUltor Folding is builtin with several foldmethods.

Leaky Nun

@Mego What's up with the extra backticks?

Doorknob

@Upgoat No, it doesn't.

Upgoat

@Doorknob why not?

Mars Ultor

But

Anonymous

@LeakyNun Markdown doesn't like code that starts with spaces

Leaky Nun

2:08 AM

I see

Doorknob

@Upgoat That's like saying "closing the laptop lid quits neovim."

Anonymous

Got it in 5: ╠≈╙╙╙

Mars Ultor

Why not just an editor with vim editing support?

Doorknob

They all suck :P

Upgoat

@Doorknob no, not at all

Doorknob

2:08 AM

There's no replacement for vim other than vim.

Upgoat

that's like saying force quitting Chrome is not quitting

Anonymous

2**(2**(2**(int(pi))))

Leaky Nun

@Mego Nope

Mars Ultor

@LeakyNun Where's the leaderboard?

@LeakyNun ?

Leaky Nun

@MarsUltor search for it. I've been told the second time not to spam leaderboard

Mars Ultor

2:09 AM

That's 65536

Leaky Nun

@MarsUltor That's 4 bytes

Doorknob

@Upgoat When you press ^Z in your shell, the process is suspended but still exists (as you can see with jobs). You can bg it to continue running it in the background or fg it to resume it in the foreground. Until you kill the process (via %1, for example, which also demonstrates that it still exists), it is most definitely not gone.

Mars Ultor

@LeakyNun Pastebin it

Anonymous

@LeakyNun What?

Mars Ultor

@LeakyNun ???

Upgoat

2:10 AM

@Doorknob oh :| I never knew that... (I feel like an idiot for saying that it does quit it now ;_;)

Leaky Nun

@Mego 4 bytes: ╦K╙╙

Sorry, forgot to save

Anonymous

Ooh nice one

Mars Ultor

JS: +atob`NjU1MzY=` is shoter

Leaky Nun

gist.github.com/kckennylau/6a8ae1048e1ee28df8050146555909f3

@MarsUltor 1

Mars Ultor

The + isn't needed if it doesn't need to be a number

@LeakyNun ?

Leaky Nun

2:14 AM

+atob`NjU ONE MzY=`

Mars Ultor

oh

Anonymous

Here's another Python 2 one for 28:

Anonymous

x=len(`''`);print x**x**x**x

Leaky Nun

Wow, it's even shorter than mine!

65536 = 2^2^2^2 = 4^(4+4)

Anonymous

24 in Python 2: print ord('☻')**ord('►')

Leaky Nun

2:18 AM

x=len("abcd");print x**(x+x)

Anonymous

Replace the dingbats with the (unprintable) ASCII characters \x02 and \x10

Leaky Nun

not fun

LegionMammal978

strawpoll.me/10328678

Anonymous

@Doorknob Would you be so kind as to unfreeze the Seriously room?

Leaky Nun

@LegionMammal978 I set a password to "password" for purpose

orlp

2:21 AM

holy shit

overwatch frustrates me so much

Leaky Nun

so that even if they know my password to that website they won't know my password to other sites

orlp

I just can't carry hard enough

Doorknob

@Mego done

orlp

still lose =/

Anonymous

@Doorknob <3

Leaky Nun

2:23 AM

@Mego x=len(````''````);print x/x<<x

oops, that's 30 bytes

x=len(``''``);print x/x<<x*x 28 bytes

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@orlp what game?

Mars Ultor

@LeakyNun UGL, 16: cuu$*$*$*$*o

Leaky Nun

(((2^2)^2)^2)^2 \o/

Mars Ultor

((4^2)^2)^2 is qeually short

orlp

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ maybe try reading?

Leaky Nun

2:30 AM

@Mego x=ord("耀");print x+x 22 bytes

a cookie for anyone who does my challenge in java

A Nerd - I

@LegionMammal978 Darn, you figured out my password: passtheweedlmao420

or c for that matter

Who here knows ruby

@MarsUltor a little

@NathanMerrill I finally got around to reading this and I don't quite get it

Leaky Nun

2:34 AM

@MarsUltor A little

Mars Ultor

halp string range not working

in irb

Upgoat

@MarsUltor try casting to array

Array ("a".."z")

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@orlp I did.

Is soldier 76 a game?

Mars Ultor

@Upgoat Still showing nothing

orlp

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ no you didn't :P

upwards

Upgoat

2:36 AM

@MarsUltor ? weird...

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

oh

Anonymous

14 mins ago, by orlp

overwatch frustrates me so much

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

>_>

Anonymous

Clearly you didn't

Anonymous

Also ninja'd

orlp

2:36 AM

besides, if you google'd soldier 76 you'd still find out

Upgoat

irb(main):001:0> Array ("a".."z")
=> ["a", "b", "c", "d", "e", "f", "g", "h", "i", "j", "k", "l", "m", "n", "o", "p", "q", "r", "s", "t", "u", "v", "w", "x", "y", "z"]

orlp

so F for effort

Leaky Nun

@MarsUltor plz send teh codez

Mars Ultor

oh whoops

Upgoat

I am having identify crisis

Leaky Nun

2:38 AM

ping still there after removal..

Upgoat

what should be the first real program I write in cheddar?

Leaky Nun

@Upgoat 65536 without numbers

Upgoat

@LeakyNun OH SHIT, I totally forgot about that >_>

Anonymous

I figured out part of why the GitHub feed for Seriously/Actually isn't working in the Seriously room

Anonymous

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Q: Atom feed in the chatroom is not working

We have got an Atom feed set up in our chatroom, and it is never posting any messages into the chatroom. The Atom feed url is: https://github.com/skiwi2/JavaLuaInteropTest/commits/master.atom We did see that, when adding the feed, it got the five latest entries and parsed them, but after that i...

Anonymous

2:40 AM

Yet another old chat bug report that got ignored

Upgoat

I have not implemented functions or objects in Cheddar yet

Leaky Nun

:o

so what can it do now?

Upgoat

arithmetic and ifs

Leaky Nun

for example?

Upgoat

var a := "avocad"
if a == "avocad" {
    print "a is avocad"
}

Leaky Nun

2:43 AM

isn't a an object?

El'endia Starman

Dr. Heimlich used his own maneuver to keep a woman from choking...at age 96. And this was the first time he'd ever done it to someone that was actually choking.

Upgoat

@LeakyNun idk, objects probably wasn't the right word

El'endia Starman

My favorite specific part of the story is this:

> Dining hall staff at the Deupree House senior living community are trained on the Heimlich, and maitre d' Perry Gaines has had to use it twice before, ... Gaines saw Ris choking and was prepared to save her — but then he saw who she was sitting next to.

Upgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ @EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Update your cheese! Cheddar now can execute full-programs \o/

El'endia Starman

@LeakyNun If you subscribe to Python's "everything is an object" paradigm, yes. Otherwise, probably not.

Leaky Nun

2:46 AM

@El'endiaStarman :o then what is an object?

Upgoat

I meant like accessing sub-properties/methods of an object e.g foo works but foo.bar doesn't

El'endia Starman

@LeakyNun Something you instantiate from a class? a in Upgoat's example is a string.

Leaky Nun

oh, alright

Upgoat

@El'endiaStarman same thing with JS

El'endia Starman

@Upgoat I thought JS was "everything is a number, string, or object".

Helka Homba

2:49 AM

JS treats programmers like objects :(

7

Upgoat

@El'endiaStarman nope, everything is an object

@HelkaHomba yeah, including programmers

Helka Homba

It just does what it wants - it doesn't care how we feel

El'endia Starman

@LegionMammal978 ............what about the other two? :P

Leaky Nun

@Upgoat try my challenge?

Upgoat

@LeakyNun unfortunetly the above means functions or properties don't work so I can't as the only way to do that would be to use a function or property

Leaky Nun

2:55 AM

@Upgoat so currently you can't even add two numbers?

Upgoat

@LeakyNun yeah you can

Leaky Nun

any type-casting?

Upgoat

yeah

but no implicit type-casting

Leaky Nun

var a := "ab">"a"

what does this do?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Upgoat ... MY MIND IS BLOWN WITH HAPPINESSSSSSS

Upgoat

2:58 AM

@LeakyNun error because why are you comparing strings

El'endia Starman

@Upgoat Lexicographic order?

Like if you wanted to make a dictionary? :P

Upgoat

not a good idea unless you're writing a very implicit language like JS or python

El'endia Starman

No, I mean, a literal dictionary with words and definitions.

Upgoat

write your own comparison function then

El'endia Starman

There is a natural ordering on strings just like there is for numbers.

Leaky Nun

2:59 AM

@Upgoat any constant like pi?

Upgoat

What is a language supposed to do? Spoon feed functionality to its users? :P

@LeakyNun yeah

Leaky Nun

what are the available constants?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Upgoat how do I run it?

and why are you downgoat icon but upgoat name... Q_Q

El'endia Starman

@Upgoat The ones that do are the most popular/widely used, aren't they?

Upgoat

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ mod hasn't changed it for me ( I can't in under 30 days)

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ just run the cheddar install script and then cheddar

Mars Ultor

3:00 AM

@Upgoat Set account name in a new account

Or learn to not change globally

Upgoat

now you can do like a := "avocad"; print a

Leaky Nun

@Upgoat What are the available constnats?

Upgoat

@LeakyNun pi, e and a couple other things

Leaky Nun

var a := pi%1 what does this do?

Upgoat

pi, e, phi, and alex

Mars Ultor

3:02 AM

@Upgoat Cheddar has *= etc, right?

Upgoat

@MarsUltor not yet

forgot to implement it

Leaky Nun

what is alex?

Upgoat

false

Leaky Nun

var a := pi%1 what does this do?

Zach Gates

@HelkaHomba: youtu.be/cph0WOdVCNg

Upgoat

3:03 AM

@LeakyNun 0.141592653589793

Leaky Nun

@Upgoat You already have the tools to build 65536 :D

Upgoat

;_; no I don't

Mars Ultor

@Upgoat how?

Leaky Nun

var a := e/e
a = a + a
a = a * a
a = a * a
a = a * a
a = a * a
a = a * a
print a

@Upgoat

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Upgoat cool

what about cheddarrepl?

Upgoat

3:06 AM

I renamed it to cheddar

@LeakyNun a:=e/e;a:=a+a;a:=a*a;a:=a^a;a:=a*a

probably can be golfed tho

Leaky Nun

@Upgoat the point is that it works

a:=e/e;a:=a+a;a:=a^a^a^a

orlp

euclidthegame.com/Tutorial

Upgoat

@LeakyNun :D that works too

Mars Ultor

@LeakyNun Isn't a:=e/e+e/e;for a = 2 shorter?

Upgoat

even shorter: (a:=(a:=e/e)+a)^a^a^a

Mars Ultor

3:11 AM

no

(a:=e/e+e/e)^a^a^a

Upgoat

@MarsUltor oh, nice

Mars Ultor

:D it actually works

Upgoat

:^) Cheddar has gone so far

@MarsUltor btw Arrays are even more borked now

RenderSettings

eeeeeeee urbit docs shipped and it is perfection incarnate
http://urbit.org/

El'endia Starman

@orlp Huh, interesting. I played this game a while ago and beat it. Looks a little different now (there's more stuff around and supporting the game).

Leaky Nun

3:18 AM

@Upgoat Any bitshift?

El'endia Starman

.....err, I don't remember an angle bisection puzzle. Interesting.

Upgoat

@LeakyNun bitshits don't work yet

Leaky Nun

a cookie for whoever does my challenge in java

Mars Ultor

@LeakyNun forgot about that

Helka Homba

@ZachGates I'd be more willing to listen to that guy if he didn't consistently call non-Trump supporters "stupid" and "idiots". I don't believe that's any way to have a serious discourse on any bipolar matter.

Not to say the left side never does that (e.g. TheYoungTurks) but it's a silly way to make the point you're actually trying to argue palatable to those you actually want to convince.

El'endia Starman

3:37 AM

Regardless of whether I agree with someone or not, my opinion of them and their arguments goes way down when they call Republicans/Democrats/whatevers "idiots" or anything like that.

orlp

3:47 AM

@LeakyNun wait, is that you?

euclidthegame.com/Level23

in the comment section lol