The Nineteenth Byte

My roommate from last semester got introduced to Empire of the Sun by me, and he kept saying he wanted to have Walking on a Dream played at his wedding.

Quill

8:29 AM

They used to play in one of the places I lived quite a bit. I was too young to go back then ;-;

Egobits

@Justin Oh, you're one of our resident Pokemoners, right?

Justin

?

What's a Pokemoner?

Quill

I picked up red and yellow today X)

Egobits

For some reason I was thinking Quincunx liked Pokemon.

Justin

Oh I do

I like pokemon

Egobits

8:30 AM

<-- drunk

Justin

I just haven't heard the term "Pokemoner" before

Egobits

I was just going to mention that the originals got released recently.

Justin

What?

Egobits

I'm on my way to Cerulean.

Justin

They were released a long time ago

Egobits

8:31 AM

R/B/Y came out on 3DS recently.

Quill

are you gonna do the mew glitch

does it even work anymore

Egobits

@Quill It does, and of course I am :P

Quill

thank christ

Egobits

Mew is half the reason I got Yellow this time around.

Quill

it works on red and blue

Egobits

8:32 AM

I have a complete dex in OR minus a few event pokes.

Justin

Leafgreen was my first Pokemon game, but I got exposed to it on airplane flights before then. Pokemon Yellow was cool, but I never got past the forest since there was no saving and I was like 5.

Ruby was my second Pokemon game

Egobits

@Quill Yea, I meant that as in "any of them".

@Justin No saving?

Quill

what about missingno

Egobits

@Quill I never bothered with that dude.

Quill

@Egobits textbook symptom of a fake cartridge

Justin

8:34 AM

@Egobits Not on the airplane's console.

Egobits

Oh right, got it.

Justin

It's not a cartridge; Singapore Airlines managed to get a couple pokemon games

Emerald is my favorite Pokemon game because of the Battle Frontier. The Battle Factory is insanely fun compared to other aspects of the game.

Quill

I used the mew glitch to catch all 151 in Red before without transferring

Egobits

Yea, starting a Pokemon game on a flight seems like a terrible idea :D

Quill

that took me so long

Egobits

8:35 AM

@Quill The shiny charm in OR took me forever, but it was worth it. I finally got me a shiny Umbreon...

Quill

I did that random trading thing for a few hours straight and got a lvl100 shiny lugia once

Justin

But do you have Pokerus?

Egobits

Lugia's a punk :P

@Justin I've got so much Pokerus it's ridiculous :D

Quill

I think it was a level5 or 6 magikarp I traded it for ;p

Justin

My ... was it Emerald or Ruby? Anyway, one of my pokemon naturally contracted Pokerus and my brother was so amazed

Quill

8:36 AM

@Egobits maybe you should go see a doctor about that

Egobits

I've had two naturally contract it and one from trading.

Justin

I've got Pokerus on my Leafgreen game to keep it immortalized

Egobits

@Quill The doctor told me to wait three days and it would go away D:

Justin

My Leafgreen game is one of the funniest things. My dad played until catching a pokemon to ensure there was no problems with the game, so when I went to play it the first time, I was so excited upon starting the game that I was mashing A. Naturally, it started from where he last saved, and I had no idea that I missed the very start of the game. So my character is named Agk and I had a Pidgey named Pig.

I got a Squirtle, which, ironically, is the starter I would have chosen if I had had the choice

Egobits

#squirtle4life

Justin

8:40 AM

I renamed it so now my Blastoise is named Splash

I don't like Magikarp, however.

Quill

>squirtle

Egobits

I was recently reminded (rather harshly) that the first gym in Yellow sucks unless you get some fighting moves for nidoran or mankey.

Justin

My goodness. My knowledge of the game was so terrible.

Oof

Egobits

Your starter pika is useless against Brock :(

Justin

Yeah without squirtle

Quill

8:41 AM

lol yeah, rock is super effective to electric

Justin

@Quill Is it? If it is, that's one of the matchups I always forget

Egobits

It's not even just that, but every damn move you have is "not effective" except fighting.

Quill

Like using shedinja

Egobits

I finally battered my way through with an overpowered pidgey :D

Justin

I taught Blizzard to my Cubone (now Marowak).... I mean, that was one of the worst ideas possible. Only 2 pokemon on my team had ice type moves: Hitmonchan (which I named "Punchy") and that Marowak (Bony). I mean what was I even thinking with these names?

Quill

8:44 AM

lol

at least you're better than the crude names you get in the random trading

Justin

Random trading? What's that?

Egobits

I got a DongBear once.

Quill

because who doesn't love ASCII genitals

@Justin it's a feature in ORAS

Egobits

XY too

Quill

Wonder Trade, it's called

kotaku.com/…

Justin

8:45 AM

OmegaRuby AlphaSapphire. Meh. I'm a Gen III and below kid

I don't like the perspective tilt they added to the overworld

I do like the battle animations, though

Egobits

I'm not a fan of the megas, but other than that I like gen VI.

Justin

Megas?

I have an obsession with macro functions

That's all C macros

Egobits

@Justin Yea... super transforms for a poke that last through the end of the battle (using your item slot for the mega-enabler).

Justin

Oh. That's strange

Egobits

It really is.

Justin

8:47 AM

I'm not a fan of this pokemon bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Scrafty_(Pok%C3%A9mon)

Egobits

Although I've got to say that Mega Gengar is a beast >_>

Justin

I mean, they just had to follow the trend of sagging pants on teenagers

Egobits

Scrafty's not good for much anyway ;)

Justin

I feel like the recent pokemon are less creative. Vanillish?!

Egobits

I'm torn on that one. It's not like Voltorb was a monument of creativity or anything.

Justin

8:49 AM

I guess you're right. But the old pokemon have sentimental value

Egobits

Definitely that :)

It's getting harder to care for each one when there's 700+.

Justin

And voltorbs and electrodes are attached to painful memories of the Power Plant and losing all my pokemon to explosions.

Egobits

I'm looking forward to filling out my 151-dex in Yellow. It should be much easier than filling out the OR dex.

Justin

Nice

Quill

are you going to trade or use the mew glitch to catch them all

on a related note, that's where I learned my basic integer structures from :D

Egobits

8:52 AM

If they announce a Mew event I won't glitch it, but I'm not holding my breath for that :(

Quill

I don't know how that's going to work for Virtual Console, but they did a Mew event for ORAS/XY

Egobits

@Quill what??

When was this?

Quill

recently, ended like last week

Egobits

Are you kidding me?

Quill

kotaku.com.au/2016/02/…

Justin

8:54 AM

My sister got Sapphire from EBay. So when it came time to catch Rayquaza, the ball used was a repeat ball.

Egobits

Oh well. At least I can pick up a Genesect later.

Quill

I neeeeeeeeeeeeed a Darkrai

Egobits

I've got a Darkrai in OR I think.

Quill

I have a few in Diamond and Pearl from events

I could probably trade them forward

Egobits

You should be able to.

Justin

8:55 AM

This is part of the reason why I like Pokemon Emerald: it has a duplication glitch.

Quill

@Justin so does RBY

Egobits

There was a terrible browser glitch for 3DS last year sometime.

Free custom pokes via barcode.

Quill

there was an iphone app out a few years ago that you could make your own pokemon and trade it in

Egobits

@Quill I thought about doing that for android. I got halfway into the comm protocol and gave up :/

Nintendo's fake wifi is no joke.

Anonymous

9:00 AM

The playlist has now wrapped back around

Anonymous

Time to go to bed

Egobits

But it's only 4AM ;)

Anonymous

But the music ran out

Egobits

@Quill These events kinda suck, though. I have no idea where the closest EB store is, but it sure isn't in this town. What happened to Gamestop events?

Quill

EB is the australian gamestop

Justin

9:01 AM

@Mego If you have Spotify, you can visit my playlist

Takes 16 hours to wrap around.

Egobits

They have them here, too, but just not here here.

Anonymous

Now if everybody could go upvote all of my things while I'm asleep, that'd be great

Anonymous

@Justin Given the songs you've posted, I think you and I have very different tastes

Egobits

@Mego What's that? Downvote all the things? Got it.

Anonymous

@Egobits Yeah something like that

Anonymous

9:02 AM

It's been an honor jamming out with you gentlemen

Egobits

Rest easy, soldier.

Justin

You too, gentle-penguin.

Quill

see you later, space cowboy

Egobits

@Quill Are you sure you don't mod at Anime & Manga?

Quill

@Egobits I visit, but I don't moderate. The mods over at A&M are great

Anonymous

9:04 AM

Wise words from a sleepy penguin: don't sweat the petty things, and vice-versa

Egobits

@Quill I've visited the Maid Cafe from time to time. Not bad, but it's no Nineteenth Byte :P

Quill

It's usually pretty slow, but when the conversation starts, it's good

P.O.D. - This Goes Out to You (Audio)

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Egobits

I'm not a big fan of Taisho, though.

Quill

meh, I mean, I've always been surprised there wasn't a bot for TNB, but I can't imagine a purpose for a bot that doesn't come down to a toy here

Egobits

Marky would object to being called a toy, but...

Optimizer

9:10 AM

how are you guys changing names so often?

i thought it sticks for a month

Egobits

Magic ponies for the most part.

Quill

He's cool, but realistically, he doesn't serve an overall purpose that benefits the room and/or the site

Optimizer

-_-

Quill

@Optimizer sign up to a new SE site, change your name there

Egobits

@Quill Sure. Data is definitely more useful.

@Quill You don't need to sign up for a new one if you already have 50+ accounts. Just only change the user name per site.

Quill

9:12 AM

^ that @Optimizer

Egobits

Not that I know anything about that.

Optimizer

Zip It More?

Egobits

Zip It More really is the perfect complement to Optimizer.

Optimizer

as in?

Egobits

To optimize the space used for something, you zip (compress) it more.

Optimizer

9:14 AM

well, at one point, further zipping increases the size due to zipping overhead

Egobits

Well sure, but no need for the specifics in a pun anagram.

I doubt any other anagram would fit as well, at any rate.

Quill

I might homebrew my spare 3ds, I hear homebrew for 3ds has a gba emulator

Egobits

@Quill I've got a gba emulator on mine. And snes, nes, genesis...

Quill

I really got into modifying the old gb and gba pokemon games a while ago

you can modify pretty much everything

Egobits

Homebrew for the 3DS is beautiful, too, because it's all on the card. No mods to the system necessary.

Quill

9:17 AM

I did most things besides modifying sprite appearances. Hexcode was a seemingly difficult thing to understand at 11

Egobits

I'd have to agree. At 11 I was mostly modifying ELIZA bots and random BASIC games.

Though if my nine-year-old is any indication, kids are different these days :D

Quill

I'm not sure if this is a new thing, but a lot of kids (and maybe even adults) aren't interested in looking under the hood

of anything

Egobits

Oh, not mine. He loves peeking into how things work.

He's far too much like me for his own good, I think.

Justin

I wonder if I should make a list of things I've taken apart

Quill

eventually you've looked at everything that's in there, and then you want to make your own

Justin

9:22 AM

Naturally, you have to put it back together too

Egobits

I remember getting in some serious trouble for taking apart our VCR a looooong time ago.

The tape heads are really cool, though >_>

Justin

Haha

I've always loved the whirring of a VCR

Egobits

Ours didn't whir very much once I was done with it.

Hence the trouble part.

I doubt my dad would have been upset if it still worked.

I can only imagine what the 14-year-olds will think of this conversation if they happen across it in the transcript. "What's this VCR thing?"

Quill

Interesting piece of information, the original gameboy uses the same processor as the TI-84

Egobits

Huh. Did not know that. Makes sense, I guess.

Then again, it also ate through batteries like nothing else.

Well, except the Game Gear. That thing was the worst on batteries I've ever seen. Stupid color display.

Should the test case 280 30 be 9:05 or 9:5? — A and N 49 mins ago

@AandN This test case isn't valid, since the minutes aren't a multiple of 60.

A and N

10:34 AM

@Egobits Oh, I didn't see that. Thanks.

wizzwizz4

@Egobits A VCR is a device for reading magnetic tapes and converting the information stored on them into video and audio, with optional closed captions. Good ones also do it the other way around!

While I'm at it: A computer is like a smart-phone, just bigger and better.

And a command-line is a way of talking to a computer with text, not pictures.

A floppy disk is a roll of magnetic tape that stores information. It's a bit like a CD, just bendy, made of layers and lasts longer.

A CD is a round piece of plastic with a small metal layer that stores information. They are very shiny.

A cathode ray tube TV makes pictures by... erm... firing a laser gun at a piece of glass. (Sort-of.)

ELIZA is this

BASIC is great.

Everything is awesome.

A GameBoy is like a smartphone, but it's just for games.

And if you don't know this stuff already, why are you even reading this transcript?

Ok, I quit. I'm not defining any more words for the next minute. Maybe even longer, if I feel like it.

So there.

Justin

11:17 AM

Something I've been thinking about lately and I just don't get it: why does everyone think that using the C preprocessor is bad practice? Yes, you can use it for horrors, but you can use it to generate repetitive code; is that considered bad? If I was defining a class which overloads the arithmetic operators in all the same ways, I'd make a macro to assist in the definition. More recently, I created a bunch of macro functions for the purpose of defining an FSM with a transition table.

I must be missing something here

Oh the more recent one, I didn't have access to C++, just C

Important to note that; C++ has more powerful tools

flawr

Sleep Bomber : Sound of a B-17 Airplane Engine - 8 Hrs Long

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Q: Find the Words on the Grid!

Write a program or function that extracts a word from a wordsearch using its start and end coordinates. The Input Your program or function should accept three parameters: the start coordinate, the end coordinate, and a wordsearch from which to extract the word. The start coordinate can be tak...

tac

1:51 PM

I... left... the comments... in a golf answer...

Those people who say "remove comments is not an answer" on tips? They don't know me.

Dennis

In you defense, even the comments looked well golfed.

Mars Ultor

Remix OS FTW (It's really nice, except for the fact that it keeps rebooting on my craptop (it's still in beta))

mınxomaτ

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Q: Fluctuating ranges

Given a list with number, output the ranges like this: Input: [0, 5, 0] would become [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0]. Some other test cases: [1, 9] > [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9] [10, -10] > [10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0, -1, -2, -3, -4, -5, -6, -7, -8, -9, -10] [3, 0, 0, -3] > [3, 2, 1, ...

code-golf array-manipulation

tac

@MarsUltor yes!

@MartinBüttner I tend to imagine you just sauntering up to people IRL, carrying a large rubber hyperlink and saying in a deadpan voice, "Related." XD

Martin Büttner

is that not what people do?

tac

@MartinBüttner it's what friendly SE users do, i suppose

mınxomaτ

I always thought Martin was a younger Tom Baker.

tac

indeed

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Q: Who said that? 2016 Presidential election

In this challenge, your task is to make write a program with less than 300 characters that takes a short paragraph or a few sentences that a candidate has said and output who said it. Input: Can be taken as a parameter to a function, input to a program etc. It will be a short paragraph, properly...

code-challenge classification test-battery

^ needs one more close vote

mınxomaτ

2:29 PM

A question for avid bash scripters. What's the best way (as in safe and short) to "extract the first match for this RegEx from the source of a website"? Preferably without creating intermediate files.

flawr

@tac Sic here

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Q: Fluctuating ranges

Given a list with number, output the ranges like this: Input: [0, 5, 0] would become [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0]. Some other test cases: [1, 9] > [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9] [10, -10] > [10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0, -1, -2, -3, -4, -5, -6, -7, -8, -9, -10] [3, 0, 0, -3] > [3, 2, 1, ...

code-golf array-manipulation

tac

@mınxomaτ exactly

Please don't spec-golf. The challenge should be about writing code to solve a problem, not about trying to decrypt the spec by finding relationships between datasets. Please post challnge suggestions in the sandbox before asking on main. — tac 1 min ago

mınxomaτ

@tac exactly?

tac

@mınxomaτ that's exactly what the question is about... unless you weren't referring to that and wanted an answer?

mınxomaτ

I wasn't referring to anything :D. I need this for my purposes.

I'm looking for a safe way to do this. That was a genuine question.

tac

2:38 PM

Ooh. In that case, do something like curl yoursite.com/page.html | sed <options>, but you'd want to look for a sed regex tutorial / walkthrough or sed regex debugger

on the other hand, just do it in Perl or Python

mınxomaτ

Perl or Python might no exist on the system. I'll try with curl

tac

@mınxomaτ curl will write the full page's HTML to stdout, and sed is by far and away the regex language of choice for the shell.

mınxomaτ

Yeah, I know what curl is, I just completely forgot that it exists for a moment :D

Dennis

I'm seriously surprised that the Unix dictionary has bogey.

Wait, it has like 6 different meanings with 3 different pronunciations.

I'm just bad at English.

Martin Büttner

2:56 PM

@Dennis aw, thanks for the explanation. I was really wondering how that worked...

Dennis

:D

Martin Büttner

@Dennis you're lucky that it works correctly for repeated integers. I think that behaviour is actually inconsistent.

tac

@mınxomaτ egrep can also do PCRE-ish stuff

@MartinBüttner harsh! :o

Dennis

@MartinBüttner Yeah, I was pretty surprised too.

mınxomaτ

@tac I basically need to extract the first match of (v[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\.[0-9]+-[a-z]+\/Turbo-latest.zip) from github.com/turbo/Source/releases. I'm currently experimenting with ordinary grep in perl mode.

grep -Po did the job.

LegionMammal978

3:14 PM

Challenge idea: Expand a recursive acronym as fast as you can.

For example, with the input "LOL" -> "LOL out LOL"

A possible output would be ` out <<<<< out >>>> out ` etc.

Cut after x amount of time

Score is number of complete levels/characters/whatever

Dennis

That sounds like run time is completely dominated by printing the output.

tac

@LegionMammal978 or, detect a recursive acronym and stop expanding after a depth

LegionMammal978

@tac Nah, too many built-ins for that already

tac

@LegionMammal978 ಠ_ಠ

LegionMammal978

@Dennis That's why your code should try to find the most efficient output method

Another (more interesting) idea:

Explain acronyms in the input

For example {"DoS"->"dEnIaL oF SeRvIcE"} and "Oh no! A DoS attack!" should return "Oh no! A DoS (Denial Of Service) attack!"

Dennis

3:21 PM

OK, but it's just a printing challenge.

LegionMammal978

You also have to account for capitalization

CoolestVeto

RDFTD

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mınxomaτ

Is there a good unix util that can unzip from stdin? unzip itself has a bug (since '09...) that prevents unzipping more than the first file from an archive.

LegionMammal978

Or {"HTTP"->"hypertext transfer protocol","HTTPS"->"HTTP over TLS","TLS"->"transport layer security"} and "My site uses HTTPS!" should return "My site uses HTTPS (HTTP (HyperText Transfer Protocol) over tlS (Transport Layer Security))!" (the chosen capital letters should have the lowest mean distance to the beginnings of words)

Martin Büttner

3:46 PM

what?

CoolestVeto

Umm.

y dorknoob

y

LegionMammal978

How much [door] could a [doorknob] [knob] if a [doorknob] could [knob] [door]?

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CoolestVeto

xD

Anonymous

4:19 PM

What on earth is going on here? Mod caboose?

Martin Büttner

I was trying to destroy evidence of VTC's mistake, I guess it could've been a bit subtler...

Anonymous

VTC makes mistakes? What are you talking about?

Vihan

strawpoll.me/7000244

Anonymous

+1 for "I don't care" option

lirtosiast

Sorry to bother everyone, but why are there downvotes on codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/74835/… ? I didn't get any negative comments in the sandbox.

Anonymous

4:31 PM

@lirtosiast Maybe because it's really more of a kolmogrov question, and people think it is boring?

Martin Büttner

wow, 4 downvotes, what on earth

lirtosiast

It could be seen as boring. I thought it was a novel kolmogorov, though.

Anonymous

It's also not tagged as kolmogrov

lirtosiast

@Mego I tagged it as kolmogorov in the sandbox, but that was disputed.

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Q: Follow the dots

The Challenge Given a rectangular grid of characters A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T and a grid with the same dimensions of dots and spaces . . . . . . . . . . . Output the string which is generated by following the dots through the grid starting in the upper le...