The Nineteenth Byte

$ apropos
apropos what?
$ apropos your mom
no.

wh- how do you code-block in chat?

Dennis

Like that. :P

Four spaces, Ctrl + K, or by clicking the fixed font button.

12:47 AM

@tac Mine does this:

mom: nothing appropriate.

llama@llama:~$ apropos your mom
byzanz-record (1)    - record your desktop session to an animated GIF
File::HomeDir (3pm)  - Find your home and other directories on any platform
File::HomeDir::Darwin (3pm) - Find your home and other directories on Darwin ...
File::HomeDir::Darwin::Carbon (3pm) - Find your home and other directories on...
File::HomeDir::Darwin::Cocoa (3pm) - Find your home and other directories on ...
File::HomeDir::FreeDesktop (3pm) - Find your home and other directories on Fr...

also, thanks, now that's in my zsh history

@Dennis I-I don't have a fixed font button :c but, thanks for using your mod-wand :D

@Doorknob I cut out the rest of the list but yeah that's what it does lmao

@tac you do for multiline messages

@tac You have to hit shift enter.

12:49 AM

@AquaTart oh, well that's interesting.

@Doorknob This needs an Ostrich answer. >:D

@Chatgoat Who told you you could be in here?

/kill

@AlexA. whoops sorry

hehe I just posted one of my code golf answers to SO

well, not exactly verbatim

@Vihan Haha it's alright

A: Python eval: is it still dangerous if I disable builtins and attribute access?

I don't believe Python is designed to have any security against untrusted code. Here's an easy way to induce a segfault via stack overflow (on the C stack) in the official Python 2 interpreter: eval('()' * 98765) From my answer to the "Shortest code that returns SISSEGV" Code Golf question.

1:03 AM

lel

@AlexA. haha I haven't touched Ostrich in ages but it's just so perfect

I will... see what I can do

Does anyone know if Macs auto-turn off under any condition?

@Vihan Off off? I think only when they run out of batteries.

Overheating?

1:08 AM

I'd hope their BIOS is sophisticated enough for that...

@AlexA. I've given my Mac mini like an inch around it of breathing room... I doubt that's the case

Cosmic rays?

@Vihan Kernel panic?

Angry kitten?

1:09 AM

I'll have to check the system logs :/

nope no panic

I like how the crash log is just a bunch of memory addresses, that'll help me figure out why my computer crashed...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@feersum I read this as "Python is evil: is it still dangerous ... "

Python is evil, it doesn't have any braces...

@Vihan Yes.

They can autoshutdown at too much CPU

@AquaTart pls halp massivelymultiplayerdemocracy.com/nethack

does mac have CPU usage logs?

yeah

I forgot where though.

1:14 AM

weird, there's no shutdown logged...

shutdown  ~                         Fri Aug 28 17:12
shutdown  ~                         Wed Apr 22 08:36
shutdown  ~                         Tue Apr 21 22:16

what happened?

Do Macs turn back on if the power goes?

Q: Segmentaton Fault (Core Dumped)

New Main Posts

1:42 AM

In my server socket program on Linux,I have the perfect program that is as follows: #include <stdio.h> #include <stdlib.h> #include <sys/socket.h> #include <sys/types.h> #include <netinet/in.h> #include <errno.h> #include <error.h> #include <string.h> #include <unistd.h> #include <arpa/inet.h>...

@tac What do you mean, kill doesn't have a sigsegv?

@feersum I was making fun of your typo (sissegv), sorry D:

heh, this joke doesn't work in face of auto brain correct :P

It's funny; a C Hello World program uses 8550 compiled bytes on gcc with all optimizations enabled, and a C# Hello World program on mcs with all optimizations disabled uses only 3072 compiled bytes. (Also, for fun, a handcrafted x86 program using syscalls and compiled with nasm -felf64 and ld uses 933 compiled bytes.)

Rust Hello World is... 574kb >_<

1:47 AM

@LegionMammal978 mcs?

@MarsUltor C# compiler I think

C# binaries made by Visual Studio are relatively small as well iirc.

@LegionMammal978 933 is a bit much

@MarsUltor (Mono C-Sharp compiler)

Haskell Hello World is like 1 MB IIRC

1:48 AM

@mınxomaτ Mainly ELF headers, I guess

@LegionMammal978 Then it's CIL, which is a low-level language, not assembly.

@LegionMammal978 ELF headers are even smaller than PE's, so it's even worse

Sadly, Linux does not seem to have an equivalent to ngen.exe

@Doorknob Dam Son

I like how Alex says that and immediately leaves

"My work here is done"

1:49 AM

@LegionMammal978 What's that?

@AquaTart (Native image GENerator)

@LegionMammal978 But still, I don't think it's fair to compare CIL with assembly.

@LegionMammal978 mkbundle -o blah --static --deps <whatever other optimization> blah.exe

Give me a minute

You might want to edit the CC path for that. (-Os -s -fomit-frame-pointer etc.)

1:54 AM

-rwxrwxr-x 1 matt matt 15503 Mar  4 20:52 WORLD_CS_BUNDLE
-rwxrwxr-x 1 matt matt  8550 Mar  4 20:41 WORLD_C
-rwxrwxr-x 1 matt matt  3072 Mar  4 20:35 WORLD_CS
-rwxrwxr-x 1 matt matt   933 Mar  4 20:52 WORLD_x86

Once again, no optimizations

933 is still way to much. E.g. this is only 512 bytes. (Runs only on x86 linux though).

Anybody else want to play this?

@EasterlyIrk what is that?

ಠ_ಠ Who set the settings dialog height to 40% in the graduation userscript?

@Vihan NetHack