The Nineteenth Byte

TheBitByte

00:03

@Geobits Dun f hd rthr ply chs thn glbl thrmonuclr wr, bt...

@Dennis T defintly rls ut infnte chans. Il rmv t.

Geobits

Please stop pinging people with garbled responses.

Destructible Watermelon

fun fact: that isn't actually amusing

TheBitByte

38

Q: And the rest is hstr!

This is an entry in the 14th Fortnightly Topic Challenge. Ha, nice, a new fortnightly challenge. What's more, it is about history! It seems that people didn't like sports that much, huh? Fortunatly, there are (good) puzzlrs around here who seem to lke history. Like @Sleafr, who alredy postd t...

Geobits

Having a question on Puzzling about that doesn't make it better, believe it or not.

Downgoat

French question: is etre one syllable?

TheBitByte

00:09

@Downgoat Hint: "rasion d'etre" is 4 syllables. Maybe you can figure out the rest yourself.

@Downgoat etre would actually be two syllables.

Conor O'Brien

@Downgoat eh-tru(ugh`)

Downgoat

:( my song won't work then

Conor O'Brien

where ugh` is that french R sound

Downgoat

quesiton: what is a six-syllable line to describe participle passes avec etre

trichoplax

Syllable count can be pretty malleable in songs...

Downgoat

00:14

@trichoplax yeah but it sounds pretty rushed then

Doorknob

@Downgoat According to Wiktionary, one.

Conor O'Brien

@Downgoat c'est tres terriblement

Downgoat

thank you

hopefully that will make teacher laugh and put her in good mood and give me good grade :D

Conor O'Brien

@Doorknob oops I've been saying it wrong

etr(gh`)

Downgoat

hm :/ could I do "ce ne sont pas mauvais"?

TheBitByte

00:17

@Doorknob Nah, it's two man.

Not one.

Downgoat

@ConorO'Brien I say eh-truh too. i can't get the th/t sound that my french teacher makes

Doorknob

@ConorO'Brien If that's <r> as in English r /ɹ/, that's not how it's pronounced.

Conor O'Brien

@Doorknob no, I just don't know how to type the french r

@TheBitByte two if you're saying it in english, maybe. in french, it's one

@Downgoat it's sort of like a sigh and a cough

Downgoat

XD nice description +1

Maltysen

1 hour ago, by Dennis

Also, Perl is typeless, so it has to.

some SO 1 rep guy accepted me answer then deleted his account >_<

oh wait that's not what happened

Destructible Watermelon

00:24

Worlds Smallest Violin

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Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@quartata is a tame djinn any good? nethack

nice avatar @ArtOfCode

ArtOfCode

ta

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

3565094!

Downgoat

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ wat

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

It's basically λa.a(λbcd.b(cd))!

@Downgoat Give me a number and I'll respond with a lambda function!

(It has to be a positive integer!)

Downgoat

00:33

29854

Destructible Watermelon

7

Conor O'Brien

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ 123123912031239082309475896348925734658923452345

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

Please give me a second!

quartata

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ How on earth did you get one

To answer your question they're decent. They don't eat and can use weapons and armor which is like 90% of what makes a good pet

It won't be as useful later

Helka Homba

US VP debate 20m

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

00:45

@Downgoat λa.a, λab.b!

Downgoat

halp how to sing song if you cant sing

quartata

Don't

Downgoat

;_; french teacher requires us to sing song

and she will play it in front of entire class

this sucks

i have autotune app but i still sonud like shit ;_;

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@DestructibleWatermelon λa.a!

@Downgoat ikr

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@quartata magic lamp didn't know it was magic or not

trichoplax

00:46

@Downgoat Just read it rhythmically and call it a bleat poem

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

didn't want to waste a holy water though I did have one (waste on oil lamp) so I rubbed

quartata

You lucky....

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

got one

yes

@quartata no longer tame but I have a tame cuatl

from prayer when fighting 5 dwarves

quartata

.....

I...

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

hahaha

quartata

00:47

And you still haven't ascended

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

yes

>_>

quartata

I thought couatls generated from praying to angry gods were hostile

How did you do this

Wheat Wizard

CMC: Determine if parentheses are balanced in Brain-Flak.

quartata

FFS. This stupid build script uses python even though on most systems that's python2

Aliases don't apply to subshells

And I can't modify it since I'm pulling it directly from Git

Ugh how do I do this again

Doorknob

@quartata Lots of Arch PKGBUILDs run a sed -i or similar on certain files as part of the compile process because of similar things.

DJMcMayhem

00:58

@WheatWizard that sounds awful

quartata

It's output from configure, but I don't call configure directly

It's called from another Makefile

OK, I think I might be able to do something here....

Wheat Wizard

@DJMcMayhem It shouldn't be too hard

quartata

Ah, found it.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@quartata angry?

no

happy god?

quartata

I just need to do s/PYTHON=python/PYTHON=python3/ on another Makefile that was buried

You thought dependency hell was bad you haven't seen Makefile hell

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

01:02

this is dNethack, that's probably why

quartata

All right, I think it works

Oh boy though I can't wait until I have to port this to batch

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@quartata shit how fix food poisoning

Downgoat

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ sip water and restr

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

that actually worked

>_>

Downgoat

:O :D

DJMcMayhem

01:10

@WheatWizard Well, I suppose if it's only parenthesis, not other brackets it wouldn't be too bad

quartata

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Why did you get it in the first place

Wheat Wizard

@DJMcMayhem Oh yes that was the intention

brackets would be a nighmare

Geobits

@HelkaHomba Nothing but canned speeches so far. So, all in all, better than the presidential one :P

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@quartata idk it was just killed

quartata

OK... so.... this script....

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

01:11

i think it was an old gnome corpse on a new one

quartata

was made for Python 2 after all

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

but holy water worked

quartata

but

DJMcMayhem

@WheatWizard Yeah. Multiple if's aren't fun

quartata

it makes a Python 3 style call to bytes

end my suffering

did it ever work

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

01:12

what code?

quartata

static-python's add_builtins.py

Maltysen

@quartata oh, this is cool

quartata

@Downgoat what's better codecov or coveralls

@Maltysen Thought so too until I decided to build it...

Maltysen

I used to use cx_Freeze before, but that actually used to make a temp folder, unpack python and your code, and then run it

quartata

Yeah cx_Freeze sucks. I'm hoping I can write my stuff in Cython, turn them into modules and then build them with this and static_freeze a wrapper

DJMcMayhem

01:16

@WheatWizard CMC: Print the input in decimal but in -A (ASCII out) mode

So input of "78" (decimal) prints "78" (ASCII)

Wheat Wizard

@DJMcMayhem Just one number?

DJMcMayhem

Sure.

Downgoat

@quartata codecov

it provides better way to see where your coverage is lacking

codecov basically gives you a giant list of files and each's coverrage

codecov gives you graphs and all

quartata

Does that work for all coverage engines. I'm using coverage.py

El'endia Starman

@DJMcMayhem Minkolang, 6 bytes: n6Z$O.

quartata

01:19

Also why are you using both? :P

Helka Homba

@Geobits idk, it annoys me when they don't directly answer the question at hand

Geobits

I'm not sure I've ever seen a debate where that happened much, tbh.

DJMcMayhem

@El'endiaStarman Haha, I should have mentioned that it was a language specific CMC

For brain-flak, where that would be much harder

Sp3000

@ConorO'Brien Technically yes, just in a less severe way now

Conor O'Brien

@DJMcMayhem so given a number, output a string of it?

@Sp3000 oh, that's good to know

DJMcMayhem

01:21

@ConorO'Brien Yeah, print the string representation of the input.

Sp3000

None of the remaining XSS I know of trigger automatically, is what I mean

DJMcMayhem

@ConorO'Brien One of my favorite features of brain-flak is that it separates input and output formats, so it's possible to take ASCII input and decimal output, or vice-versa, or both ASCII or both decimal (the default)

Sp3000

You should probably specify the input range - I can imagine handling 0 to be annoying :P

Wheat Wizard

@DJMcMayhem brain-flak.tryitonline.net/…

El'endia Starman

@DJMcMayhem Hehehe, I figured it was language-specific. :P

Conor O'Brien

01:25

@WheatWizard you are a wizard of more than just grains

5

Wheat Wizard

CMC: Take an ASCII number in and output it as decimal (use only the -a) flag

(In Brain-Flak)

Downgoat

@WheatWizard -1, close vote, and delete vote into oblivion for language restriction :P

Conor O'Brien

blame the dj

1000000000

@WheatWizard brain-flak.tryitonline.net/… 126 bytes, super not stack safe, but I think it gets the job done

(determines if a string of parentheses is balanced)

Downgoat

@DJMcMayhem (print) <- cheddar

Conor O'Brien

01:35

reticular, 3 bytes: io;

Sp3000

@WheatWizard Too lazy to golf properly: brain-flak.tryitonline.net/…

Wheat Wizard

@Sp3000 It is still much golfier than mine: brain-flak.tryitonline.net/…

DanTheMan

I'm writing a bash script, but echo >> file works in the shell but not when I put in in a script. Do any of you know why this might be?

noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC

02:00

assembly is syntactic sugar for brainf**k

DanTheMan

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC If your computer uses a brainf**k CPU, then yes.

Downgoat

pls halp where 2 get brainf**k CPU

DJMcMayhem

From your brain

Geobits

Why on earth am I still watching this debate? -_-

Downgoat

questoin: is best way to make lyric video to make screencast of powerpoint presentation?

Geobits

02:05

If by "best" you mean "most popular method on youtube" :/

DanTheMan

@Downgoat Don't use PowerPoint. Use Excel; it is vastly superior.

Downgoat

@Geobits yes

@DanTheMan how to do in excel?

quartata

@Geobits What's happening? I figured it would be dumb so I didn't want to watch

Downgoat

in Ask Ubuntu General Room, 6 hours ago, by Kaz Wolfe

how to scare everyone at starbucks: https://www.robscanlon.com/encom-boardroom/

Geobits

@quartata More substance than the presidential one, but not by much. Overall it's just pretty boring. Pence is keeping busy saying "he never said that" a lot, though, so that's kinda entertaining.

DanTheMan

02:12

Excel animation tutorial

So instead of "Wrong" and "I never said that" it's "He never said that"?

Geobits

Yeah. Kaine keeps hitting him with "I can't believe he would defend his running mate on this", etc.

When he really really did say that.

El'endia Starman

Err, who's debating?

Geobits

Oh, and that was the third or fourth time he said "and this is one you can just go to the tape on" just now.

Kaine v Pence, VP debate

El'endia Starman

Kaine is Trump's?

Conor O'Brien

wait VP debate? that's like shouting at a stone audience

Downgoat

02:17

@El'endiaStarman Kaine is Hillary's running mate

Geobits

@ConorO'Brien They're both oddly soft-spoken. It's very jarring after the other one :P

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat Oooh, okay.

Conor O'Brien

@Geobits Oh, that's nice.

El'endia Starman

Who's doing better so far?

Geobits

@El'endiaStarman I'm biased, but I'd say Kaine overall. But like I said...

Conor O'Brien

02:18

> “Senator Clinton is like the prune juice of this election,” he said. “She might not seem very appetizing, but if you don’t take her now, you’re gonna be clogged with crap for a very long time!”.

Geobits

Baldwin was great on SNL this week :P

Conor O'Brien

this is the one SNL I watched and I was not disappointed :P

quartata

I have to say Pence feels like a really weak VP pick on Trump's part. He doesn't appeal to any new audiences or really add anything

@ConorO'Brien SNL is great

Geobits

Eh, Kaine's not a real winner in that regard, either.

They're both very "safe" picks, at least for their own crowd.

quartata

Fair although I think Kaine is a little better

Helka Homba

02:23

@quartata He represents the "career politician, DC insider" group, kinda an audience Trump doesn't have

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@ConorO'Brien λa.a(aaa(λbc.aa)(a(λd.d))(a(λe.e)(a(λf.a)(λgh.h)a))), λa.a, λab.a, λa.a!

quartata

Sure but I think he's already alienated that crowd beyond any hope really...

Conor O'Brien

feature-request: switch presidential candidates with their VP's

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

Question: What are major elections like in governments outside the U.S.?

Conor O'Brien

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ papal election! (idk)

Downgoat

02:26

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ is this your next username?

PhiNotPi

DM: "roll for dragon" player: rolls nat 20

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

@PhiNotPi ?

PhiNotPi

It's a Dungeons and Dragons thing.

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ

ik, but what's a nat 20?

ASCII-only

natural 20 on a d20 roll

PhiNotPi

02:28

Rolled a perfect score, basically.

quartata

Natural 20.

Geobits

wow, you're on a roll

Conor O'Brien

things are getting a little dicey in here

(you ninja'd my pun, so I had to make a new one :P)

quartata

oh no not again

Geobits

@quartata You could always switch over to the debate. They're talking about abortion atm :/

Downgoat

02:31

@ConorO'Brien these puns are the opposite of para_dice_

ok that was weak

Conor O'Brien

it could've been better

then again, I thought there were no more dice puns left :P

Geobits

There's no chance we've run them out already.

ASCII-only

@Downgoat it's normally spelt pair of dice btw

Downgoat

Damn it

quartata

A critical error

Geobits

02:37

Conor O'Brien

these puns make me want to die :P

quartata

flawr eyes

Conor O'Brien

flawrless

Steven H.

What would you guys think of a series of challenges designed to build upon one another in order to create a fully golfed neural net?

Geobits

I can only imagine how long it would take to train a fully golfed neural net :P

Destructible Watermelon

02:46

what kind of neural net?

Geobits

A golfed one

Steven H.

Fully connected arbitrary-layer (golfed)

I'd try to institute performance checks on each of the stages to ensure that we don't get O(n!) solutions or similarly low-performing

(especially since I'm hoping to test the final output with CIFAR-10)

ASCII-only

why not fastest-code instead

Steven H.

Honestly? I just want to see Dennis build a Jelly neural net

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Geobits you should make 2 clean markies (markys?) and have them talk to each other, after listening to the original @MarkyMarkov for a bit.

Geobits

02:49

Oh god why?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@quartata hm, nice

Geobits

Marky is clean atm though. All the South Park is gone, replaced by Star Trek.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

hahaha

wait train him on south park that's an even better idea

Geobits

He got chat banned when I did that :/

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

wat

Geobits

02:50

Yep

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

link to conversation?

Helka Homba

Well, Pence was more measured and focused, but he didn't adequately defend Trump. If Pence had any other running mate I'd call him the winner, but...

ASCII-only

@StevenH. I want to see Dennis build a neural net that runs way faster than everyone else's

Geobits

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Don't have a link. There was a pinned message in beep boop about it for some time. Might be gone by now though.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

hm, okay

Geobits

02:53

@HelkaHomba Seems like a fair assessment. Kaine's strongest moments were pushing Pence to defend something, because he just wouldn't do it.

Dennis

@quartata This piece is just an opinion, and like any JavaScript framework, it shouldn’t be taken too seriously. Pure gold.

DJMcMayhem

@HelkaHomba But that's just kinda the weird nature of a VP debate. Even if pence was kicking kaine's butt the whole night, if someone hates trump it's a moot point. And vice versa.

Geobits

If he didn't have to constantly defend Trump (which he didn't try very hard to do imo), he would've done better imo. It wasn't so much "I hate Trump so Pence was bad", but "Pence had a hard job cut out for him".

quartata

03:09

@Dennis At this point they've so overbuilt these JS stacks it's hard to take them seriously

I'm sorry but that's bloat if I've ever seen it

Dennis

I've used jQuery once or twice in the past, but I usually just stick to vanilla JS. A big deal of what I used to do in JS can now be accomplished with CSS anyway.

quartata

It's too bad JSFs involve Java, with a few libraries they cut out a massive chunk of what people need JS for

Async polling is a one liner with Richfaces

but the backend becomes hell because Java servlets suck

Geobits

Yes. Yes they do.

Dennis

I write my backends in Bash, so what do I know. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Geobits

I bashed my back end once when I was learning to skate. Could barely sit for a week.

Dennis

03:20

Fortunately, I have a strict no-sports policy.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@flawr reddit.com/r/avocadosgonewild

DJMcMayhem

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ WTF, why is it NSFW?

Geobits

Did you not see those pictures? No clothes anywhere.

quartata

@DJMcMayhem It's a parody of a certain subreddit

DJMcMayhem

Really the more disgusting thing is the avocados. Blegh

@quartata yes, I had guessed as much

quartata

03:29

You must not get good avocados where you live because avocados can really only be described as a delicacy

Precious and delicious

DJMcMayhem

Avocados are disgusting. Not only is the taste awful, but the texture is all slimy and gross too.

Geobits

I can't believe what I'm hearing right now.

quartata

Slimy? That sounds wrong

Downgoat

@ConorO'Brien hvae you posted your cheddar quine on the quine quetsion?

quartata

Avocado flesh should never be slimy at least not the flesh near the pit. The greener flesh near the peel can be

And it's not supposed to have a strong taste. It should be nutty but not overpowering

conclusion: you got a shitty avocado

Downgoat

03:40

...

are you guys seriously bringing this meme up again

Geobits

No? It hasn't been speeled terribly yet :P

DJMcMayhem

No. We're discussing the taste of a fruit.

Dennis

@Downgoat The meme is pretty worn out, but as long as we're talking about the actual fruit...

Downgoat

oh... :|

Dennis

I've never had avocados in any other form, but guacamole is frickin' delicious.

Downgoat

03:45

^ I tried to have normal avocado and it was pretty bad. Guac is great tho

DJMcMayhem

Even though I hate regular avocados, I agree that guac is OK.

Downgoat

Charlie bit me(Arabic)

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lmao

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