The Nineteenth Byte - 2015-11-14 (page 2 of 9)

« first day (1750 days earlier) ← previous day next day → last day (3096 days later) »

El'endia Starman

2:00 AM

55 mins ago, by El'endia Starman

Ta-da! Googled and here's the answer I was looking for!

@AlexA. My code is still borked, and it will continue to be borked as long as I live.

user image

Remember to check out my challenge!:

16

Q: Decimal concatenation of squares

Premise One night, I was just contemplating on numbers. I found out about something unique about numbers like 7, 10, 12, 13, and more. They are squares of squares! Meaning, that when squared, are comprised of squares themselves. The OEIS calls them Squares which are a decimal concatenation of tw...

code-golf number sequence number-theory set-partitions

@phase Maybe when you're like 80 or something it'll be unborked

And here's the one I was actually looking for when I found that last one:

user image

2:02 AM

@AlexA. I swear it better not take they long cause I need to win all the challenges right this instant

Dennis will beat you anyway

It's just a fact of life.

Maybe Dennis will go on vacation and give us normal humans a chance to win

El'endia Starman

@Martin would have to go on vacation too...

Calvin's Hobbes can stay because he posts way more questions than answers. :P

oh wow golfscript.com/golfscript is up

\o/ it was down before?

2:11 AM

It was down like all over summer

@Doorknob You might need some WD-40; I heard you turn when you entered the room.

oh, wow. I guess then it's been back up since august

@AlexA. you must be hallucinating

I never enter or leave

because I don't have another doorknob with which to go in/out of places

therefore I am always here, enabling others to enter and leave

@Doorknob Oh right, I had forgotten that I did a bunch of LSD earlier. It's making me see Doorknobs everywhere.

SE chat isn't comfortable with immortal beings, so it sometimes shows me as gone

6

2:16 AM

I... uh... okay.

Anyone know any Virtual Machines that work with 32 bit?

I have VMWare Fusion on my Mac and I'm fairly certain I can set up a 32-bit VM, if that's what you mean.

Or do you mean software that runs on a 32-bit host?

32 bit host

Does VirtualBox not?

nope.jpg

2:21 AM

Hm.gif

You can look into VMWare but it costs money.

urg no

OSS or nah

well it costs money so...

So not VMWare.

I don't know of any VM software other VMWare and VirtualBox.

Anonymous

qemu

Anonymous

If you're running windows good luck

Anonymous

2:24 AM

Unless it's gotten better in the last few years

ugh

I was just going to install Crystal anyways :\

Anonymous

Try this

Someday there will be a mass awakening and everyone will abandon Windows entirely.

OS X too :P

ಠ_ಠ

I'll abandon OS X when I'm dead. #maclife

2:27 AM

Somebody that needs to make a virus for windows that kills everthing

Anonymous

@phase Vista?

It exists but it gets blocked by Norton Antivirus.

Vista was a failed attempt at genocide

wait... I thought Windows is a virus

Anonymous

I don't feel like going through the effort of setting up a Linux install with everything I use from Windows

2:28 AM

Windows once asked me whether I trust Windows Security Essentials, otherwise it wouldn't run.

Anonymous

Easier to stay the course

@Mego that's weird because you're currently going through the much greater effort of using Windows

:P

Anonymous

@Doorknob It's not that bad

Yes it is

Anonymous

I really like Win10

2:29 AM

@Mego how do you know?

Stop lying to yourself

Windows 10 is ok

Anonymous

@Doorknob Because I've used both of the OSes (and OS X, too)

I remember my elementary school had computers with some really old version of OSX. But they had THPS so it was ok.

user image

2

2:30 AM

@SuperJedi224 looks fun

@DigitalTrauma ♥►▬◄♣0de♦dark•light♠5 works too. :)

@phase "Syntax highlighting" for BotEngine.

Anonymous

Because let's face it, OS X is just BSD with a fancy desktop environment and an ass-backwards package system

@SuperJedi224 More like "scattered lines everywhere that make it look like I know what I'm doing"

user image

@Mego uhh... not... really

2:31 AM

Why can't all computers be this simple?

Anonymous

@Doorknob shh I'm trying to bait Alex

@phase It's supposed to indicate the potential execution paths

For valid inputs, at least

It looks good :D

El'endia Starman

@Mego Me too! :)

Windows 10 - it's not that bad™

2:36 AM

Unless you use McAfee...

Windows 10 - Well, we tried, lol. Sorry it sucks.

2

™

Just noticed, wasn't PPCG supposed to graduate on November 1st? I swear I heard that somewhere...

ಠ_ಠ

rofl @Geobits ^

El'endia Starman

@GEOBITS. YOU LIAR.

2:38 AM

@Geobits Gratuitous ping

Anonymous

user image

6

Haha

That about sums it up

har har har

Seriously though. A coworker had been nagging me all week that her computer didn't work anymore since the Windows 10 update. No WiFi, random freezes, Chrome wouldn't start, took forever to delete files... She gave it to me to take it home over the weekend. I only needed five minutes: Step 1. Uninstall McAfee.

4

Anonymous

I think I fixed the while loop bug in Seriously

Anonymous

2:39 AM

Need alcohol for testing

@Dennis When I had a Windows computer many years ago, Norton antivirus would run randomly. It used like 200% CPU and would crash everything else I was doing. It wouldn't let me schedule it or turn it off either.

Yet another reason not to use antivirus programs.

I have Sophos antivirus on my Mac. I rarely remember it's there except when it finds something.

2

@AlexA. sophos is nice, but since i have a lot of hacking tools and payloads, it constantly bugs me about them

@TheDoctor 3ds 2.5 payloads?

2:43 AM

Hacking tools?

The last time I used AV on one of my own computers was many, many years ago. The computer caught a bug, but everything was still working. Then the AV tried to eliminate it. Broke everything.

@AlexA. metasploit for infosec competitions

@AlexA. probably telnet :p

@TheDoctor I don't know what any of those words mean

Anonymous

Using WireShark for my computer networking class was a royal pain in the ass with computers with strict AV

2:45 AM

Since Windows 7, you don't really need an AV anyway. Even on Windows.

information security competitons - legal hacker thingies

Anonymous

I use Windows Defender for AV, and run anything I don't trust in Sandboxie

Anonymous

Hi CJY bye CJY

@AlexA. that one time we won

Anonymous

> missoulian

Anonymous

2:46 AM

That's like the furthest thing from English I've read today, and I've been on Reddit a lot

@Mego That's what I activated on my coworker's computer.

@TheDoctor jeez, that page has "cyber" all over it

Anonymous

<insert relevant xkcd here>

@aditsu xkcd.com/1573

Anonymous

thank mr doge

2:47 AM

np :)

yes, I didn't post that because it was already posted a bit earlier...

eh

@TheDoctor => Meme Queen

@aditsu https`d so it won't onebox

Anonymous

@TheDoctor that's pretty awesome though, cyberjokes aside

2:50 AM

:D

Anonymous

I have a degree in compsci, minored in math, and learned security from a former USAF software engineering instructor, and I'd probably miserably fail at that

Anonymous

Said professor's last job before becoming a professor was figuring out how to attach a laser to a 747 to shoot down missiles

2

Anonymous

He was/is super cool

all we need is sharks with laser beams on their heads

'Now, minions, I'm off to inspect our shark cages.' 'Do you really need to inspect them this often?' 'PRISONERS MUST NEVER ESCAPE.'

tldr; disaster

Anonymous

2:57 AM

The Boeing YAL-1 Airborne Laser Testbed (formerly Airborne Laser) weapons system was a megawatt-class chemical oxygen iodine laser (COIL) mounted inside a modified Boeing 747-400F. It is primarily designed as a missile defense system to destroy tactical ballistic missiles (TBMs), while in boost phase. The aircraft was designated YAL-1A in 2004 by the U.S. Department of Defense. The YAL-1 with a low-power laser was test-fired in flight at an airborne target in 2007. A high-energy laser was used to intercept a test target in January 2010, and the following month, successfully destroyed two te...

@phase VirtualBox can emulate 32 and 64 bit machines

I can confirm this 100%

If it doesn't show up for you then something is wrong

hot dog

I'm already working on something else :P

Ah, OK.

Just wanted to point out that anyone who told you VirtualBox couldn't do that was lying and was probably paid by VMWare to say that

Long live the VirtualBox revolution

Anonymous

So I'm considering putting up my currently sandboxed challenge soon. Any feedback?

Anonymous

1

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Gamma Function Given a real number x between [-1E9,1E9] as input, output Γ(x), also known as the Gamma function, which is defined as follows: You may not use a built-in Gamma function to solve this task. Your output should be accurate to 6 significant figures. Python's built-in Gamma function...

3:00 AM

All Hail VBox

this is really tempting

What happened with the sequence badge?

Anonymous

Yay bronze code-golf badge

@Sp3000 a tag needs a minimum of 20 answers for (bronze) tag badges to be awarded

someone probably just posted the 20th

wait, scratch that. It's 100.

Oh, that's interesting. Thanks :)

(I got the number of total answers confused with the number of answers that a single user needs)

Anonymous

3:04 AM

It may have just gotten slapped on to TanMath's challenge, bringing it over the limit

@Mego i heard my name?

Anonymous

Or the fact that the tag was added to it 5 hours ago was only noticed by the StackBots just now

Anonymous

@TanMath Just discussing your challenge :) Didn't mean to ping you, I thought only @ would do that

Anonymous

I threw a bounty up on this because 2 answers is simply not enough

@Mego you didn't.. I just happened to be here.. I didn't follow what you were saying about me...

Anonymous

3:08 AM

@TanMath We were talking about the sequence tag, which your question happened to be the newest one tagged with it

Anonymous

user image

Anonymous

Shouldn't the second imply the first?

@Mego no.. because the bronze badge must be the first answer

YES! Now I'm actually getting error messages! They make less sense than getting nothing, but at least they're there!

5

Anonymous

@TanMath Oh, I didn't realize where the badge came from. I thought I got it from the Seriously question, but it turns out I got it from Meta for the languages post

3:21 AM

halp CoffeeScript is weird

Anonymous

@Doorknob use more jQuery

I am using jQuery

that doesn't make CoffeeScript any less weird

0

A: Showcase your language one vote at a time

Thue Thue (the correct pronounciation is either "TOO-eh" or "TOO-ay", I've heard both) is a language based on nondeterministic string rewriting. It is presumably named after Norwegian mathematitcian Axel Thue. A program consists of a list of zero or more substitution rules (terminated by the nul...

El'endia Starman

Hmm. I probably should get around to doing that for Minkolang...

My cat is just rubbing his face all over my computer

3:27 AM

Cats tend to do that.

@Doorknob that must mean you're not using enough jQuery

Anonymous

If your code is anything but jQuery, it's not enough jQuery

Technically it would be called "Javascript with jQuery"

no

it's jQuery with JavaScript

2

And it may be a good idea to specify the jQuery version as well

3:28 AM

jQuery with Ruby

jQuery with jQuery

$ with jQuery

user image

3:42 AM

@Doorknob I think this is just a general fact.

0

A: Showcase your language one vote at a time

ShapeScript Factoid I created ShapeScript as one half of my submission to Create a programming language that only appears to be unusable as a simple, stack-based language with a simple syntax. While ShapeScript is all but unusable, it lacks traditional loops and conditionals, variables, a way ...

About time.

Well, goodnight guys.

El'endia Starman

G'night!

@ThomasKwa I didn't say what I wanted to, did I?

I can't tell you that

3:57 AM

huh

ShapeScript can modify only the two topmost stack items.

Oh, I misread

No, I think I miswrote.

El'endia Starman

Alright, I've tossed in mine.

0

A: Showcase your language one vote at a time

Minkolang Factoid Minkolang is a Minkowskian (2+1)D stack-based semi-golfing language. The "Minkowskian (2+1)D" part simply means that there are two dimensions of space and one of time. The spaceship (or program counter, if you prefer) travels through time when it's not traveling through space....

I was thrown off by the "While.. all but unusable"

4:00 AM

Yes, that doesn't really mean what I wanted to say.

The entire paragraph sounds weird. Is this better? While ShapeScript is far from unusable, it does not have traditional loops, conditionals or variables, cannot modify any stack item except the topmost two, can only modify strings using split and join, etc.

Much better.

Though there's still a triple negative

OK, can modify only the two topmost stack items.

El'endia Starman

1. Post factoid.
2. Add length 1 snippet for upvote.
3. Add length 2 snippet because it got upvoted in the meantime.
4. Add length 3 snippet because it got upvoted in the meantime.

How long will this continue?!?

as david after dentist once said... "is this forever????"

Martin made it two 144 snippets...

Well, no. Snippets up to a length of 144.

El'endia Starman

4:06 AM

Oh, there's upvote 4.

you're welcome

El'endia Starman

Before I figured out what to do for upvote 3... :P

Thanks. :)

Well if everyone is doing this:

0

A: Showcase your language one vote at a time

TeaScript Factoid: TeaScript was born after I got fed up with JavaScript's incredibly long String.fromCharCode function. It was originally made to have just shortened property names but TeaScript has grown a lot since.

0

A: Showcase your language one vote at a time

O Factoid O is a programming language inspired by GolfScript, Pyth, K, and tons of other languages. It was made by Phase (me) over the summer of 2015, so it is relatively new. The interpreter was originally written in Java, but development has recently switched to a C interpreter. Here are some...

@Vɪʜᴀɴ oh I was so close

El'endia Starman

HA! Awesome!

4:09 AM

I basically stopped updating my language showcases. I have about 4 of them up I think.

@AlexA. you horrible person

2 rep away from 900

I have R (my highest voted answer on the site!), Julia, Fortran, and Perl. I made Perl a CW because I realized I don't know Perl (or want to know it) well enough to keep that post up to date.

@phase Make an edit, get it approved.

@AlexA. I know none of those languages, so sure

I see no point in posting a language to that thread unless it's a language for golfing. You'll never get to anything cool in verbose languages, unless they are already popular

@quintopia Julia can be golfed pretty well

4:13 AM

@phase I wasn't talking about the language showcase, I mean to get +2 rep, make an edit on something. If it's approved you'll get +2 rep.

@AlexA. ah, I've done like 2 before

@phase no doubt! And it's decently popular already

@quintopia I disagree. The showcase isn't about golfing, it's about displaying interesting features of each language.

@Alex A. Yet it naturally favors golfing languages, since they are designed with being able to do cool things with fewer bytes in mind

Maybe I should enter Deltaplex. Unless Lode Vandevenne frequents this site?

@phase O has a C interpreter now? That's great!

4:17 AM

As an example of a language that would do poorly in such an environment, here's Hello World written in SELECT. esolangs.org/wiki/SELECT./Hello_World

@quintopia Not necessarily, so long as people upvote the answer it'll be able to get longer snippets. I got up to 41 in R, which is certainly not an ideal golfing language.

@Dennis That is literally all I've been complaining about all week...

Well, mostly about the IDE which is written in Python

I thought you were complaining about Gunicorn

I remember you complaining about G unicorns, but I didn't notice you had switched to C.

@Alex A. 41 bytes isn't even enough to do Cat in SELECT. :P

4:19 AM

@Dennis @kirbyfan64sos actually made a PR with some code that he had made and we went from there!

@quintopia Each snippet doesn't have to be runnable on its own. For example, my length 1 snippet in R is just T, which is a synonym for TRUE in R.

@Alex A. I get your point. But then, I can also point to a language in which there is not even a single command shorter than 5 bytes :P

Haha

i'm back

Hi Back, I'm Front.

4:33 AM

i booted Kali on my Mac

@AlexA. hi Unoriginal Joke, I'm Doorknob

Who is Kali?

@Doorknob Hi Doorknob, I'm Dejected.

:P

@AlexA. linux distro

Did you set it up with Bootcamp or a VM?

4:38 AM

rEFInd

Uh what

i have a vm but kali likes the low level hardware

docs.kali.org/installation/kali-linux-dual-boot-on-mac-hardware

XD

El'endia Starman

So, uh, my Minkolang answer to the cat question was actually wrong, but no one noticed. >_> (I've fixed it.)

@El'endiaStarman That's probably why people can get their code to such few characters..

El'endia Starman

4:42 AM

5 chars before, 5 chars after.

How much your answer gets checked is inversely proportional to how long your answer is

@El'endiaStarman See, less. (5 < 5)

Proof by intimidation

Proof by intimidation (or argumentum verbosium) is a jocular phrase used mainly in mathematics to refer to a style of presenting a purported mathematical proof by giving an argument loaded with jargon and appeal to obscure results, so that the audience is simply obliged to accept it, lest they have to admit their ignorance and lack of understanding. The phrase is also used when the author is an authority in his field presenting his proof to people who respect a priori his insistence that the proof is valid or when the author claims that his statement is true because it is trivial or because he...

3

El'endia Starman

...so my answer should have totally been checked! :P

What? No. There's 0 bytes there, 5 is so much longer than 0

El'endia Starman

4:43 AM

Oh, right.

5 >= 5

This statement is true.

It doesn't fail this time! Only errors... o-lang.herokuapp.com/link/code=1o&input=

> -e: 1: -e: o-ide: not found

The IDE says "halp where did ide go"

2

El'endia Starman

@AlexA. E-I-E-I-O...

Again: Works fine locally, blows up on heroku

I think heroku just sucks at python

El'endia Starman

4:56 AM

git push origin master

@phase Tell that to Pyth

btw, when did @Mego leave?

Mego has never existed. He's a figment of your imagination.

El'endia Starman

[shrugs] People come and go...

@El'endiaStarman just pushed to github.com/phase/o

4:57 AM

@AlexA. really? then how do you know?

El'endia Starman

@phase Well, actually, I meant to wherever on Heroku.

That's how I update the public-side interpreter.

@TanMath I'm Mego. You're Mego. We're all Mego.

El'endia Starman

...actually, now that I think about it, you have to also have post-receive on the server that checks out the code...

@El'endiaStarman I make a bunch of commits and push them to heroku, and then when I get something working I push to origin

El'endia Starman

ahh, okay

4:59 AM

I never get any of my code working, so I never push to github ;-;

El'endia Starman

:(

Logs?

« first day (1750 days earlier) ← previous day next day → last day (3096 days later) »

Transcript for

Nov '1514

The Nineteenth Byte

The Nineteenth Byte: General discussion for codegolf.stackexc...

join this room
about this room

00:00

06:00

12:00

18:00

all times are UTC

site design / logo © 2024 Stack Exchange Inc; legal

mobile