The Nineteenth Byte

Alien G

2:00 AM

@Doorknob Like me? :D

Geobits

@Doorknob Are you sure you know the difference? >_>

Doorknob

@AlienG lemme reword that: the only person who I've met, actually in person :P

Alien G

@Doorknob You never know... I could be anyone O_O

Geobits

Oooh, creepy :D

Doorknob

@Geobits pretty sure I can recognize how bad this code is:

Oct 2 at 1:35, by Doorknob

 var n = 5;
var a = n;
function thing() {
  if (!!!a) return n;
  a -= 1;
  n = n * a;
  thing();
}

quartata

2:02 AM

@Doorknob Why !!! ?

Seadrus

why !

Doorknob

hahaha

quartata

I'm very confused right now

Geobits

Really, everyone knows that:

Oct 2 at 2:06, by Geobits

The best factorial function recursively builds a string of numbers to multiply, then evals it for the base case.

Alien G

@Doorknob This actually made me laugh.

quartata

2:03 AM

What did I miss, at any rate?

Geobits

You were gone?

2

Alien G

@quartata Me failing and code day talk.

Doorknob

nothing interesting, by the standards of PPCG chat at least

quartata

@Geobits Having dinner (miso)

Alex A.

miso hungry

Geobits

2:04 AM

Luckyyyyyy...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I tried explaining recursive functions to a friend of mine. I ended up going over the same concept over and over again--I must have done something wrong...

quartata

Not homemade nor at a restaurant so not actually that lucky

Tastes decent though

Alien G

Can you get the screen width/length in cjam?

Geobits

You mean soup, or something else?

quartata

@Geobits Yes

Geobits

2:05 AM

Ah, ok. Most places don't mess up miso soup too bad ;)

Alex A.

@Doorknob What is?

quartata

I did use to lick raw miso off the packet but those days are long past. I haven't done that since Friday

Doorknob

@AlexA. codeday.org

Alex A.

lal

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Alright. Someone give me a motivating reason to work on my Simplex interpreter. I'm too tired to convince myself

Alex A.

2:07 AM

@Doorknob Oh damn son, there's one in Seattle

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ You can do it

Doorknob

I was actually introduced to CodeDay by a fellow SE user

Geobits

@quartata If you decide to cook it instead of eating it raw, it's good on pork and beef at least :P

quartata

I believe in you

Doorknob

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ this cake, if you succeed

Geobits

2:08 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I'll downvote every post of yours until it's done? Or, umm, something like that.

4

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Geobits Working on it now.

2

@Doorknob And XD *You've AND OMG *Congratulations

Alex A.

-1

Alien G

-3

Geobits

Note: I'm not saying I won't still do it once you're done ;)

Doorknob

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ so there's nothing wrong with "congration?" :P

@Geobits will be @Geobits

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

2:09 AM

@Geobits o-o

thanks y'all :D

Seadrus

i know what you've done ^

Doorknob

s/Alexander the Great/@AlexA./g would make this boring history textbook so much more interesting right now

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Alex A.

@Doorknob :D

I'll make history spicy. B)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

s/(.+?)ed/avenged/gi

Geobits

> AlexA. died in Babylon in 323 BC, the city he planned to establish as his capital.

Bummer.

quartata

2:11 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Perfect

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata bows thankies

Alex A.

@Geobits Oh... Oh god.

quartata

Also replace Darius III with Dennis

s/Darius III/Dennis/gi if you want

Doorknob

wasn't he that guy that kept running away from battles? >_<

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

And s/G(.+?)\b/Geobits/g

quartata

2:13 AM

That'll make it much more interesting. The epic battle between Alex and Dennis!

@Doorknob Yeah

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. alexander-the-wrong

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Alex A.

:(

quartata

alexander-the-tasty

Doorknob

@quartata so why doesn't Dennis get to be Darius I, the great Achaemenid admininstrator?

I misspelled Achemmmeniiddnowhatever didn't I

quartata

@Doorknob Would you rather be Darius III?

Doorknob

2:15 AM

uhhh... no >.<

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

s/Darius I+/Dennis/g It has been reconciled

quartata

I mean there are only two moderators with names beginning with D

Not a whole lot of options

Doorknob

so who does Martin get to be?

Minos? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Calvin's Hobbies

Martin Luther, and I'm John Calvin, we've discussed this...

quartata

I don't know but we could name Macedonia Martonia

Keep it in the same time period

Doorknob

2:16 AM

ok sure

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Who am I? :P

Doorknob

@AlexA. of @Martin onia

quartata

Hmm who does that leave

Doorknob

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Cyrus \o/

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doorknob :D

Doorknob

2:17 AM

@quartata Darius I/III were Achaemenid...

quartata

I'm an idiot

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ WARNING STAR SPAWNER ^

quartata

But hey at least now chat knows you are paying attention

SM64 - Quadruple Star Activation

►

Relevant

I just killed chat again

And someone starred my message so it isn't 4 stars and the joke isn't funny anymore

Great

Alien G

Un-kill.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Whoaaa

Alex A.

2:21 AM

@Doorknob Conor is me of Martin land? ...?

El'endia Starman

@Doorknob Pretty good option, I'd say...

quartata

Call me dumb but I don't have all of our current mods memorized

One second

El'endia Starman

I wonder if I do.

Alex, Doorknob, Martin...uh...

Alien G

@quartata I don't almost any of them...

Calvin's Hobbies

There are only 4+1

Doorknob

2:22 AM

@El'endiaStarman You can be... uhh...

/me tries to think of historical figure whose name begins with E and who lived in the same general era

quartata

@Calvin'sHobbies Dennis Doorknob Alex Martin are the only ones?

I keep thinking El'endia is one lol

Doorknob

@quartata actually no

El'endia Starman

Well, I am, just not on PPCG... :P

Calvin's Hobbies

codegolf.stackexchange.com/users?tab=moderators

gnibbler technically

El'endia Starman

...gnibbler.

Who's that?

quartata

2:23 AM

Well I'm not sure how to fit gnibbler in the history

Alex A.

@El'endiaStarman He's been a mod here longer than any of the rest of us.

Doorknob

@El'endiaStarman one of the original protems from waaay back

El'endia Starman

Also, I note that he was appointed in 2011 and the others in 2014/2015.

Doorknob

along with dmckee (no longer a mod, but still on Physics) and CJY (now a SE core dev)

El'endia Starman

I figured.

Ahh, so there were two others that aren't PPCG mods anymore. Gotcha.

Doorknob

2:24 AM

nods

El'endia Starman

@Doorknob For some reason "Epiminedes" comes to mind. Lemme look that up.

Doorknob

1 min ago, by Doorknob

along with dmckee (no longer a mod, but still on Physics) and CJY (now a SE core dev)

El'endia Starman

Ah, Greek philosopher.

Alex A.

@Doorknob I can has read

Doorknob

@El'endiaStarman well, he did live in the same general... time period :P

El'endia Starman

2:26 AM

OH, I know why I had that name in mind: Paul (the apostle) quotes him in one of his letters: Titus. He quoted specifically the part where Epimenides says something to the effect of "All Cretans are liars".

Alien G

-100 from me

quartata

@AlienG Anyone with blue text for their username in chat is a mod somewhere

Alex A.

:25018896 My name is in blue, which means I'm either a mod or a Stack Exchange employee.

Calvin's Hobbies

@El'endiaStarman That could be a challenge. "Generate a word that sounds like the name of a Greek Philosopher" -> Eripidres, Artimeredes, Antalides, Imagreekades...

El'endia Starman

oooh

Alien G

2:28 AM

Well, rip.

quartata

@AlienG banned lel

Alien G

Eh.

If I were to get banned for not knowing who the mods are I wouldn't want to be a part of that site anyway :P

Though, it would be a good idea.

Anonymous

Yay more stars

Doorknob

psssst @AlexA. should we ban him

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. Can you give me Geobits veto power if I trade in some medals?

Alex A.

2:31 AM

@Calvin'sHobbies Yes

Calvin's Hobbies

Sweet

Alien G

Hopefully the question I just posted isn't as terrible.

Alex A.

@Doorknob >:D

Alien G

(Calls stackexchange)

Me: "Mods are abusing their power"

Them: "Too bad."

Me: ;_ ;

Doorknob

>:D

quartata

2:33 AM

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Q: Remove repeated words from a string

Remove all repeating words from an inputted sentence. Input will be something like cat dog cat dog bird dog Snake snake Snake and the output should be cat dog bird Snake snake. You don't need to handle punctuation but capital letter handling is required.

Doesn't Pyth have like a built in for this

Like split the string

Then remove dupe elements from the array

Alien G

@quartata Yeah, so does java and c# and....

El'endia Starman

Minkolang doesn't. >_>

Alex A.

Is that really not a duplicate of anything?

Alien G

@AlexA. No, that's why I posted it. (I'm surprised too)

quartata

Ah well I've got to go

I'll leave that easy answer for someone else

Doorknob

2:35 AM

huzzah I did something in CJam

Alien G

@quartata Ouch.

Doorknob

this is... what, my 3rd CJam program ever?

Alien G

@Doorknob Probably de_stroyed everyone.. (+1 for getting the reference)

Anonymous

@AlienG I like this challenge, and the length of my python solution will depend on the answer to my comment

Anonymous

Crap

Anonymous

2:37 AM

Now I have to do the longer regex solution

Doorknob

I'm really tempted to try this in Macaroni

meh, I have homework and stuff and a Macaroni answer will probably take half an hour to write

Anonymous

Oh wait I can do it without regex

Alien G

@Doorknob Doesn't print...?

XD

Doorknob

yes it does...

did you try it? -_-

Alien G

@Doorknob Yeah...?

It is in cjam, right?

Doorknob

2:40 AM

yes

link

Calvin's Hobbies

Worked for me

Alien G

@Calvin'sHobbies guess @GamrCorps sent me a bad cjam interpreter...

@Doorknob Well, sorry for doubting you. +10

Anonymous

1

A: Remove repeated words from a string

Python 3, 87 80 bytes turns out the full program version is shorter s=input().split(' ') print(' '.join(e for i,e in enumerate(s)if e not in s[:i])) Did it without regex, I am happy

Anonymous

Fastest pythonista in the west

Alien G

Damn, you guys are fast...

Anonymous

2:45 AM

If it wasn't for the requirement that output had to be in the same order, lambda s:' '.join(set(s.split(' '))) would win Python at 36

Alien G

@Mego >:D

Doorknob

ehhh whatever I'll add a Ruby answer too

Anonymous

@AlienG :c

Alien G

@Mego I did that just to make you loose. :3

Anonymous

@AlienG It'll take a few drinks to make me loose

New Main Posts

2:47 AM

I am slow and I feel bad about myself

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Anonymous

@NewMainPosts slowest bot in the west

Alien G

XD

Anonymous

Now I wanna do the C solution

Anonymous

Just because nobody else will

El'endia Starman

@Sp3000, wanna attempt a solution in [Gol]><>? :P

Alien G

2:48 AM

Well, bye all.

Anonymous

We need a language called Go><>!

Anonymous

That combines the best of Go and ><>

Anonymous

Bye Alien!

El'endia Starman

Seeya!

Doorknob

nobody's doing Pyth, which probably has, like, a 3 char solution?

El'endia Starman

2:49 AM

@Mego First thing that came to mind was actually that it would be based off of the card game.

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman Even better

Doorknob

ah, Pyth is 9 (?)

Anonymous

Trying to do array element search in C sucks though... Maybe I'll do C++

Alex A.

@Doorknob I'm working on Pyth now

Doorknob

@AlexA. Maltysen already has a Pyth answer

Alex A.

2:52 AM

Yeah, just saw. :/

Doorknob

/me needs to learn CJam and Pyth and APL and Julia and Go and...

El'endia Starman

/me continues working on/with Minkolang because it's more fun. ^_^

Doorknob

Snowman and Macaroni are basically finished... I want to make a new esolang that has more novel ideas, but I can't think of any

Alex A.

ostrich

Sp3000

What are we attempting solutions for?

Doorknob

2:57 AM

@Sp3000 latest main post

@AlexA. >:(

El'endia Starman

@Doorknob Fluid dynamics language? :P

Doorknob

too complicated :P

El'endia Starman

Random walk?

Doorknob

I was thinking of one that was based entirely on forced chess moves, but that would be hopelessly verbose even for an esolang

El'endia Starman

That also sounds fairly challenging to even program in.

Sp3000

3:00 AM

Gol><> wouldn't be too bad at it, so Minko should be fine too

Doorknob

Well, if you're trying to engineer a position that has forced moves for both sides a couple of moves deep, it's actually not too hard. :P

The real problem is that a chess move has very little... entropy?

So you'd have to have hundreds of boards per program.

El'endia Starman

@Sp3000 Yeah, I just don't really want to tackle it at this moment... :P

@Doorknob: ever played Bughouse chess?

Doorknob

no, but I've heard of it on multiple occasions and it sounds really fun :D

El'endia Starman

it is

But anyway, maybe you could use the capture of pieces to perform various actions.

Like taking a pawn outputs the top of stack (say).

Doorknob

Yeah. Now that I think about it, a language based on antichess would probably be much easier

(if you're not familiar, in antichess the goal is to lose all your pieces, and if you are able to make a capture, you're forced to)

El'endia Starman

3:04 AM

And because this is Bughouse, you wouldn't necessarily run out of pieces.

ahh, gotcha

yeah, that'd be easier

Doorknob

It has much more forced moves. (For example, 1.d3 is an insta-lose for white)

Anonymous

Posting my C++ solution to the repeated strings question - don't think I've seen a C++ solution before

quartata

I was actually thinking about a fluid dynamics language ths morning

My telepathy powers grow stronger

I decided to try and dssign a language based on NetHack commands instead

Basically the idea is there are infinite dungeon levels and you "drop" numbers on tiles

Doorknob

... huh.

Anonymous

Well you got DoorKnob's attention

Doorknob

3:15 AM

MeGo

El'endia Starman

Oh hey @quartata, you're supposed to be working on your Simplex interpreter now, right? :P

quartata

Oh I never started that

El'endia Starman

o.o

Doorknob

You know what to do, @Geobits

quartata

Thanks for reminding me

Doorknob

3:18 AM

I'll see if I can turn off the serial vote detector just for you. :P

quartata

nu nuuuuu

I'm sorry I have 5 projects and I've never been good about finishing stuff

Doorknob

I've never been god either

Anonymous

@quartata and on the 7th day he said "ehh whatever"

El'endia Starman

@Doorknob Thank God... >_> :P

quartata

fixed jeez my o key is breaking stop

Doorknob

3:20 AM

@El'endiaStarman You're welcome!

El'endia Starman

...

Doorknob

(decided to try it out right now. Not bad)

El'endia Starman

Today I learned that if an astronaut is in orbit 10 meters (about 30 yards) away from the Space Shuttle and Jupiter and Earth are at their closest, then the force of gravity on the astronaut from Jupiter is SIX TIMES STRONGER than the force of gravity on the astronaut from the Shuttle. O_O

quartata

But seriously what do you think of my nethack thing

Doorknob

if you make it definitely ping me :D

El'endia Starman

3:24 AM

Me? Or Doorknob?

quartata

Adding is just dropping two nums on the same tile. Multiplication is done with nethacks repet thingy. Division can be done by eating.

Doorknob

Nethack has a repeat thingy?

El'endia Starman

Make it interactive!

Doorknob

Do you mean giving a count to a command?

Anonymous

Got my C++ answer under 300 bytes, I feel accomplished

quartata

3:26 AM

yes

Doorknob

oh ok

quartata

# is input. Look/farlook could be output

Doorknob

# is sink/corridor/clouds/tree...

quartata

I think I could actually finish this since it is fairly simple

Doorknob

I have to sleep soon, but if you do, put it on Github or something and ping me with a link :)

Anonymous

3:28 AM

Now it is on the starboard, and you can feel the shame when you don't finish it

Doorknob

ok why did someone star that

oh

Anonymous

Famous last words :P

quartata

# is extended commands where you can type whatever that is why I picked it

Doorknob

ahh right

What about string manipulation?

Anonymous

Treat it as a character array, dropping and picking up characters?

quartata

3:30 AM

It would have to be like BF-not at all

Doorknob

aw come on who starred "oh"

:D

Anonymous

bonus points: have a command that executes whatever character is on the floor beneath you

Anonymous

(or stack of characters if there are multiples)

El'endia Starman

....so wait....this would be a 3D language? Huh. :P

With layers? Hmm...

Gee, that sounds familiar. :P

Alex A.

Onion-lang

El'endia Starman

3:37 AM

...I just had an idea: make a time-based language where the time part actually is time. That is, have at least two concurrent pointers that have the ability to rollback the other.

Anonymous

ogrelang

Alex A.

gnallang

Anonymous

It's always fun looking back at my older answers and realizing I can make improvements

Anonymous

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A: How many three-fruit pies can you make?

Python, general solution, 128 74 bytes -54 bytes from @xnor, you da real mvp lambda l,k:-(-1in l)or-~g(map(sum,zip(sorted(l),[0]*(len(l)-k)+[-1]*k)),k) def g(a,k):b=[i for i in a if i];return 0if len(b)<k;c=sorted(b,reverse=True);return 1+g([c[i]-(k-1>i)for i in range(len(c))],k) This work...

Anonymous

I'm still sad that, even though this won the bounty and is shorter than the other python solution, the other python solution is voted higher :(

Anonymous

3:50 AM

(shorter despite being a general-case answer)

Thomas Kwa

^ already has my vote.

Anonymous

And your bounty :P

Thomas Kwa

Hm? No, that was xnor's

My bounty, which no one ever claimed, was for a proof of the generalization of the closed form from my answer

Anonymous

Oh right, you were just commenting on it

Anonymous

Floor thing?

Anonymous

3:53 AM

Oh right

Anonymous

My solution should be equivalent to that for n,k=5,3

Thomas Kwa

In other news, implementing the shunting-yard algorithm in TI-BASIC, a language without stacks, queues, or even lists of strings, is very painful.

Alex A.

> I don't think I've seen a C++ answer on this site before.

@Mego Seriously? ^

Anonymous

@AlexA. I could be wrong, but my brain is returning null

Alex A.

We have a ton of them.

Pretty much every challenge that attracts enough attention gets a C++ answer.

I've even done one.

Sp3000

3:57 AM

vv Incoming duplicate pretending not to be a duplicate

Alex A.

> [not a duplicate] [duplicate]

Anonymous

@AlexA. Having a ton does not mean I've seen one or remember seeing one - my memory is often not so great

Anonymous

I'll change the wording if you prefer

Alex A.

@Mego I'm just amazed that you haven't seen one. A search for C++ answers brings up 312 pages (with plenty of false positives, granted).

Anonymous

@AlexA. I don't remember seeing one - big difference :P

Anonymous

4:02 AM

(also remember I've been around for less than a month)

Alex A.

You've been around for less than a month?

:o

El'endia Starman

I've been around for not much longer than that and still I saw some C++ answers.

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Q: Happy Birthday to you! [not a duplicate]

Happy birthday, <language>! The goal is to print this exact text here: Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, happy birthday dear <language>, happy birthday to you! with <language> being the language you're writing it in (e.g. Python, Node.js, etc.) Rules You may not use any part of...

code-golf

Anonymous

Alex A.

o dam son

Anonymous

4:05 AM

:P

El'endia Starman

Oh, huh, my first answer dates from Aug 3.

Then I didn't post any until my Befunge answer to the Beatles Songs and Hexagons question.

That's still my top-voted answer and I'm proud of it. ^_^

Anonymous

Yeah, 22x as long is "not much longer" :P

El'endia Starman

@Mego I only voted before Aug 3.

But yeah...I might've seen some C++ answers in that time... :P

But really, I'm fairly sure I saw at least one in the last month or so. Then again, I do occasionally look through the answers of old/popular questions.

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman I wasn't a member of any SE community before 23 days ago :P

El'endia Starman

4:07 AM

4+ years for me. :P

4 years, 5 months on Math.SE. :D

4 years, 2 months on Christianity.SE. Which is how old that site is. :P

Anonymous

Oh, apparently I asked a question on SO last year

El'endia Starman

AH-HA!

Alex A.

roflcopter

Anonymous

And then never used any SE site other than reading SO answers when they came up in Google

Anonymous

I joined this site as soon as I found out it existed, 23 days ago :P

El'endia Starman

4:11 AM

ha, nice

Anonymous

And I've been rep-farming ever since, claming bounties :P

Anonymous

bbs

Alex A.

2 mins ago, by Alex A.

roflcopter

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4:24 AM

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Q: Find amount of heads and tails from percentages

Given two numbers (which are multiples of 0.5) representing heads-percentage and tails-percentage from a series of coin-flipping, output the minimum amounts of heads and tails to produce percentages such as those. Examples: Input: 25 75 (25% heads, 75% tails) Output: 1 3 (an output of 25 75 is...

code-golf

Alex A.

30% heads, 75% tails what — undergroundmonorail 13 mins ago

hahahaha

El'endia Starman

Just posted a non-sandbox post. Let's see how long it takes to show up.

(I'll bet 6-8 minutes.)

@NewMainPosts A question I can do with Minkolang! Yay! :P

Alex A.

4:39 AM

Finally over 200 code golf answers! Now I just need 237 more upvotes on those answers and I'll get a gold badge! :P

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4:50 AM

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Q: Should "Code the Huffman!" remain closed as a duplicate of a very old question?

Tl;dr: I think my question on Huffman coding was wrongly closed as duplicate and should be re-opened. Early this week, I had the idea of posting a challenge based on Huffman coding. I found a very old question that was based on Huffman coding at the core, but the execution was different: Huffm...

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El'endia Starman

16 minutes. Wow.

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