In the past we ran a Clean Up week to find abandoned questions or questions that needed votes, and so on.
Oli set up an awesome site here where it would find older questions and give you a queue that you could just go through when cleaning up. This worked out well, and we went from something lik...
then I got a complaint that no one wanted to answer my questions because I had a low ... like "#### rate" forgot the term used... so ... doesn't that force people to go back to all the questions they posted and check answers that really actually werent answers at all ... just to get someone to at least give them some feedback...
My feature request (or anti-feature-request perhaps) is the following:
Let's stop displaying a user's accept rate.
For those of you who know "Fawlty Towers", the whole issue of a visible accept rate and our behavior towards it starts to feel like "Don't mention the war!".
We generally seem to ...
As has been mentioned over and over again on Meta, in a wide variety of topics relating to 'unethical questions', 'newbie users', 'annoying users', 'leech-like users', 'unwise architecture' and other such questions, the answer has always returned:
Answer the technical question. No one should ...
And if someone complains, point him to that accepted answer that says “NO, it is not appropriate to change your behavior because of some user's acceptance rate. This includes commenting on it.”
there's gotta be a better way to get people to check satisfactory answers... why not make it possible for answers to be selected as THE ANSWER once they reach a certain amount of upvotes
In order to increase engagement between the people asking questions and the rest of the community, we’ve rolled out two new features.
The first is a “batting average”, if you will.
Below the question owner signature block, for non-community-wiki questions, we show the percent of accepted answers for that user. It won’t always appear, though. The following rules are used in the calculation:
Questions must not be community wiki.
Questions must not be closed.
Questions must be more than 3 days old.
Questions must have at least 1 answer.
There must be at least four eligible questions as determined by the above rules, otherwise the statistic will not appear. …
I don't think that, as a community, Ask Ubuntu currently has a strong consensus about whether or not it's appropriate to post comments encouraging people to accept more answers. We have a weak consensus, supported by a moderator that it is very appropriate to do so.
I recommend against responding to such comments in such a way that claims that we do have a consensus against it. However, if in practice a comment is not constructive, then of course it should be flagged, as should all rude comments.
Furthermore, it seems that our community may be changing its viewpoint on this issue, toward the idea (expressed in Meta.SO and not necessarily directly applicable to our specific community) that these comments are bad and should be posted. I'd invite anyone to post on meta about this, or if people prefer, I'd be pleased to unaccept Oli's answer in that meta question so that the conversation can continue there.
@Gilles, I totally agree that it is a personal thing and that is why ultimate control of that check mark could be left in the hands of the poster to "take the check back" if he wants to
@jokerdino There are many such comments. I'm not sure what we should take that to mean, though. Their presence doesn't necessarily mean the community as a whole supports them. Are you suggesting that the presence of those comments means that the consensus that we should have them is strong?
from a practical standpoint, worrying about the checkmark is worrying about a small problem anyway. A bigger problem is to get people to accept answers!
@JorgeCastro, if the poster does indeed have the power to take the check back as you say, then ... the personalness is not violated at all by OPs checking answers they feel are valid and a note sent to the poster that they have the ability / option to take it back if they want
@jokerdino Ah. I understand. Well, there's a pro-forma comment about it. Perhaps more people are using pro-forma comments, so more people see that one and use it?
Pretty much what the title says. Trying to cat /var/log/daemon.log doesn't produce any output, while cat /var/log/daemon.log.1 does. Why do daemons store logs to the /var/log/daemon.log.1 file instead of /var/log/daemon.log? Is there a specific reason they are storing on the other file?
NOTE: ls...
all I know is the other day I got a complaint (not on askubuntu ofcourse >:D ) that my accept rate was too low and realized I was getting absolutely no responses to any of my questions and I was forced to find all my past questions and randomly click a ton of answers checked ... 100% immediate accept rate and I find I'm getting a few more responses
I think you're both right in a way. I think there used to be a default pro-forma comment. That's gone, I think. But there's still one in the meta question where some pro-forma comments are shared, right?
I'd like to gather a list of boilerplate comments for Ask Ubuntu which can be used in combination with the awesome Pro-forma comments userscript.
Post suggestions too, you are not required to use the script.
Please wrap your comments into a code-block for easier copying.
@JoshuaRobison personally I don't look at it. I have more important things I consider, like the question itself. I imagine anyone that's been here for some time is similar, but you might not get the flood of answers with a low acceptance rate, sure.
@JoshuaRobison That sounds bad, and is perhaps evidence that these accept rate comments are not a good thing. It's valuable for users to accept answers because it shows what answers were most helpful, and it shows that the question was answered. If accepting an answer doesn't achieve either of these goals (and speciically, if it shows unanswered questions as answered or unhelpful answers as helpful), it should not be encouraged.
@JoshuaRobison Since you accepted answers under pressure, you might want to unaccept some answers. Also, you can reply to the comment(s) asking you to accept answers by explaining briefly why, unfortunately, it would not be helpful for you to do so, because they don't have answers that helped, yet.
it's hard enough as it is working with arm and tablets... I barely have it running on my tablet but because it is such a new environment to linux as a whole ... it really is unfortunate that an accept rate comes into play
you'll get a list of comments to choose from, and at the click of a button, you insert them. we share these common comments. so all same comments everywhere.. makes us look like bots
@JoshuaRobison Also, in my opinion, flagging these comments, even if they're politely written, is fully acceptable under these circumstances, though maybe use a custom flag explaining why the comment happens to be non-constructive.
@JoshuaRobison Well, it's your choice. If people are answering your questions because your accept rate is higher, I don't want to tell you that you should have fewer accepted answers. But that does suggest a problem with the system as it is right now (not that I'm the first to say that!), in that people are acting more helpfully toward you because you have more accepted answers even if, in this particular case, it wasn't inherently helpful for them to be accepted.
@EliahKagan all it takes is one prolific person on AU to use accept rate as a criterion, and apparently izx is one such person. So there would be a noticeable decrease in answers :-)
@JoshuaRobison Another thing that you can do with old questions that don't have good answers, if you have found the answer (and this applies even to newer questions), is to answer your own question. (Then you can accept your own answer, 2 days later.)
@jokerdino, yes... not just concerning technology though but ... everyday I'm honestly feeling more cynical .... that is really ... kind of disarming that you noticed that O_o
@Chan-HoSuh I know izx has posted some accept-rate-related comments. (I have too, though not for a while, ever since I felt that community opinion had started to turn against them.) Are you saying izx is actually deciding whether or not to post answers, based on accept rate?
Guys, sorry for combo breaking, just a quick question I came up just now. Do you get reputation if you answer your own question and select the answer as accepted?
@NlightNFotis No, you do not get reputation for that. (Not even the +2 for accepting an answer.) However, it is still good to accept your own answer, if it is the best answer.
@jokerdino, yes. community support is not the most friendly to start with... we're not paying-customers after all... can't expect the same treatment but ... i've never used NSFW language or called someone names in an IRC channel like some OPs do , for messing up my system
njallam has been working on some random text editor, probably as homework for school, and couldn't figure out serialization properly. i suggested subclassing and adding a method and he thought it would make it not readable, so i posted what i think is a really readable example
I would like to learn more things about os principles and development, and was looking around for a distribution that would be open to newbie developers such as me
My feature request (or anti-feature-request perhaps) is the following:
Let's stop displaying a user's accept rate.
For those of you who know "Fawlty Towers", the whole issue of a visible accept rate and our behavior towards it starts to feel like "Don't mention the war!".
We generally seem to ...
As has been mentioned over and over again on Meta, in a wide variety of topics relating to 'unethical questions', 'newbie users', 'annoying users', 'leech-like users', 'unwise architecture' and other such questions, the answer has always returned:
Answer the technical question. No one should ...
I'd like to gather a list of boilerplate comments for Ask Ubuntu which can be used in combination with the awesome Pro-forma comments userscript.
Post suggestions too, you are not required to use the script.
Please wrap your comments into a code-block for easier copying.
