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njallam

12:00

My goodness!

It works!

Thanks @aking1012

Anwar

AFK

NARQ vote? askubuntu.com/q/183190/61218

njallam

@Anwar I flagged as Very Low Quality.

aking1012

@njallam i told you it works here: askubuntu.com/questions/183029/problem-serialising-textbuffer

njallam

Only trouble is my loops are all screwed up...

I hate debugging.

@aking1012 I meant my save script works... somewhat.

My eyes are sore... — njallam 20 secs ago

Eliah Kagan

@Anwar Yeah, I think it's fine to close it as not a real question. Of course, it's a very new question...it would also be OK to wait. I voted to close. If we close it and then the OP edits the question so it's clear what the OP is trying to do, I'll vote to reopen.

jokerdino

12:08

dupe? - askubuntu.com/questions/171022/…

njallam

@jokerdino Looks like it.

jokerdino

Thanks.

njallam

still not pinging huh...

jokerdino

No. >:)

The Interrupter

When are "you can do this different thing instead" answers considered good? http://meta.askubuntu.com/q/3989?atw=1

Tweeted by AskUbuntu on September 2, 2012 at 12:00 PM

njallam

12:12

Why can't PyGObject just be documented properly!

@aking1012 if you feel like some more Python, paste.ubuntu.com/1181323 <-- that method is driving me insane. See if you can spot some errors in it.

self.subjects is a Gtk.Notebook()

Each page in subjects contains another notebook.

Each page of that contains a Text View

mateo_salta

@EliahKagan It was one of those short answers in the comment, that didn't really explain it, since I'm not going to maintain the answer, and it seems community wiki answers really seem to discourage others to improve(rep wise) I'm not going to transfer answers from comments that way anymore.

jokerdino

@mateo_salta +1

I have a nice solution

njallam

AFK

Anwar

@jokerdino looks like, You are following him in Au

jokerdino

@Anwar :P

i actually edited two of the nice solutions.

but i kept finding newer ones

Anwar

12:23

make sense.

brb

jokerdino

bye

Anwar

@Ketan_Patel great answer dude. — AthloX Aug 4 at 6:14

nothing to say

jokerdino

heh

Eliah Kagan

@mateo_salta You may want to post on meta about this. Posting CW answers with information from comments, to make clear how the OP solved the problem and close the question, is very common. I'm not saying you were wrong to delete it, but I do think this general topic deserves consideration and discussion.

mateo_salta

@EliahKagan so the answer was basically to use help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair

jokerdino

12:25

@EliahKagan I understand his POV. I stopped CW-ing answers that I didn't understand.

If someone questions its validity, I wouldn't be able to rectify it.

mateo_salta

I can give you the full text if you want to maintain the answer.

jokerdino

So, I figured no answer is better than "probably might work answer"

@mateo_salta 10K+ can see the answer. :)

Eliah Kagan

@mateo_salta Well, we're both 10k users, I can see the deleted answer. :-)

(I mean jokerdino and I.)

jokerdino

waves

Eliah Kagan

@mateo_salta I'll consider reposting it myself as CW. I don't think your choice to delete it is in any way unreasonable. Let me think about the matter. (I didn't want to repost it before talking to you, though, since I wasn't sure why you'd deleted it ...plus, I don't have the original comment for reference.)

jokerdino

12:28

Why am I dominating the star zone?

Anwar

anyway, I think, it is too noisy to see the deleted (red backed) answers ;)

jokerdino

@Anwar Yes.

IAMA Sockpuppet

hi

Anwar

I starred several of your msg, supporting it. brb

mateo_salta

there were others, that I tried posting that they say solved... and they got put through the washer on "this is not an answer" and such, maybe its a bit different, but if the poster say they solved Its hard to tell where to go from there

fossfreedom

12:30

o/

IAMA Sockpuppet

o/

ctrl-tab doesn't work in epiphany :(

jokerdino

@mateo_salta heh it isn't your fault.

@IAMASockpuppet get a real browser

5

More stars. Aww

@aking1012 --^

mateo_salta

@jokerdino you are going to clear the star board, with all your posts soon

3

jokerdino

lol

There you go!

fossfreedom

dupe or close? askubuntu.com/questions/183217/…

jokerdino

12:39

how goes the weekend @foss?

btw, i dropped a comment on that question.

Eliah Kagan

@fossfreedom I'd dupe it to this.

fossfreedom

@jokerdino quiet apart from an almost electrical failure with the car - struggled to get home!

@EliahKagan good dupe - thanks and closed.

jokerdino

@fossfreedom wow, fixed the car yet?

@EliahKagan Yay, fixed the numbering.

Eliah Kagan

@fossfreedom It was inspired by jokerdino's comment (which was perhaps even intended as a reference to that question).

mateo_salta

so, this is the best case for the CW comment to answer that I had, askubuntu.com/a/142087/47291 and this was the worst, askubuntu.com/a/174280/47291 so...

Anwar

12:43

But, if he was asking to remove ubuntu and only install windows, then it would be an off-topic. anyway closed

jokerdino

@EliahKagan I was asking for clarification. If he had said yes, I would have linked to that question. :)

fossfreedom

@jokerdino put in a new battery ... if it runs out of juice ... probably the alternator. You wouldnt believe how scary - middle of the night - middle of no-where with the lights and dashboard blinking and throwing warning lights and the car almost dying!

jokerdino

@fossfreedom it ... is... scary. --Shatner

Eliah Kagan

@Anwar I'm not sure I fully understand what situation you're saying would be off-topic ...but I don't think it's obvious that a question about how to stop using Ubuntu is off-topic for Ask Ubuntu or any other Ubuntu site.

jokerdino

@mateo_salta You were doing the community a favour. Don't feel discouraged because of these incidents. :|

Anwar

12:46

@EliahKagan ok. i got the point

mateo_salta

maybe the question should be not how to stop using ubuntu, but how to install windows, I don't know why people feel there is some way to "uninstall" ubuntu, aside form using wubi.

Anwar

maybe because they don't know, an OS can't be uninstalled. it is removed

Eliah Kagan

@Anwar Well, I'm just saying it's not obvious. You may be right. It's a good thing to discuss on meta. (Oh dear...perhaps I am becoming to much of a meta fiend... :-) )

jokerdino

Got to discuss that on meta.. :)

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Q: installing google chromium i.e. chromium on ubuntu 11.10

I want to install google chrome i.e chromium on ubuntu 11.10. I went to the software center,and then tried to install chromium. But the error shown was check your Internet connection but the net was working fine.

11.10

Google Chromium?

Anwar

@EliahKagan yes. i was saying "helping removing ubuntu may be off-topic"

Eliah Kagan

12:49

@jokerdino It's probably a typo. (Or just a mistake. I remember I called it Google Chromium for a while after I started using it, before I realized that Google is not in the name for Chromium.)

jokerdino

I just happened to read the question when fixing the answer.

Anwar

the answer? may be it is the second answer ;P

jokerdino

heh :P

Eliah Kagan

@jokerdino Edited. (And upvoted Uri Herrera's comment.)

jokerdino

Looks like it is a dupe then. Main dupe - askubuntu.com/questions/77487/…

Eliah Kagan

12:54

@fossfreedom It seems to me that the answers in this duped question ought to be merged into the master question.

jokerdino

@Anwar Ketan Patel specializes in Wine and boot.

Eliah Kagan

@jokerdino Agreed.

Anwar

can be.

jokerdino

@EliahKagan Thanks.

Chan-Ho Suh

13:10

-1

A: how to install ubuntu 12.04 on mac book pro

I would say, don't do it. I messed up my Windows because I wanted to test Ubuntu. However, it is nearly unpossible to uninstall it and switch back to Windows. If I would be you, I wouldn't do it. Don't waste your Macbook. Ubuntu doesn't run even Modern Warfare 3.

jokerdino

13:21

I feel like a terrible person.

@Chan-HoSuh That is just wrong.

Anwar

terrible u say?!

jokerdino

@Anwar yeah lol

Anwar

How many votes are required for a question being considered answered. is it 2?

jokerdino

1

Anwar

@jokerdino why?

jokerdino

13:24

@Anwar hm i edited most of his answers >.>

but i didn't downvote any of them though

Anwar

nice!

jokerdino

heh

Eliah Kagan

@jokerdino Nearly impossible is very subjective. For some people, if they don't have their Windows installation media, switching from any OS to Windows might seem nearly impossible.

jokerdino

@EliahKagan I was talking about the ideology behind the answer. :)

> Don't waste your Macbook. Ubuntu doesn't run even Modern Warfare 3.

hey @Sathya

sock puppetware

Chan-Ho Suh

@jokerdino when I saw Ubuntu didn't run Modern Warfare 3, I realized I had made a mistake installing Ubuntu! :-p

jokerdino

13:34

@Chan-HoSuh :P

He forgot Mac doesn't run MW3 either

Chan-Ho Suh

@jokerdino heh... it's funny you know that

jokerdino

What's wrong with me saying that?

Chan-Ho Suh

don't be so defensive :-) I was just surprised you'd know it didn't run on a Mac. Do you know a gamer with a Mac?

jokerdino

Well, everyone knows no game runs on Mac. :)

Except for Farmville.

Chan-Ho Suh

aha, well. Ok.

I think what's important is you can run DOSbox on OS X.... really, what more do you need?

Anwar

13:40

Can dosbox run modern games?

jokerdino

dosbox. lol

Eliah Kagan

@Chan-HoSuh I do know gamers with Macs. Most of them run Windows on their Macs. One of them games on Mac OS X (a number of Steam games--including Half-Life 2 and its offshoots, I understand, run natively on Mac OS X now).

3

jokerdino

looks around. I know nothing about Mac.

4

Chan-Ho Suh

Nobody's going to star my DOSbox comment?! :-|

@EliahKagan yes, that's true. I haven't kept up, but it always seemed Macs were underpowered for games, even putting aside the OS issue.

Anwar

@Chan-HoSuh ★

Chan-Ho Suh

13:43

Incidentally, DOSbox is easy enough to get running on Ubuntu using apt-get :-)

Anwar

you mean historically? ;P

Sathya

@jokerdino hi there

jokerdino

@Sathya heya. Who pinged you?

Sathya

@jokerdino in here? no one, just dropped in

jokerdino

askubuntu.com/review-beta/suggested-edits/22755 close question as TL.

@Sathya Alright. Cool then. Have a nice stay.

Sathya

13:45

:-)

Anwar

Is U&L older than AU?

jokerdino

Probably not.

Anwar

Then i'd say, this guy is awesome

jokerdino

@Anwar He is everywhere :)

He once answered my question on UL. He had 10.5k rep back then.

Anwar

I am reading this answer from him

I also decided to use that style (before reading his answer)

jokerdino

13:50

The reason he has that much of rep is because, the ratio of posts to voters is pretty high in UL.

er I mean more voters for less posts.

Anwar

hmm.. are there really less posts?

jokerdino

How do I put it?

Anwar

You haven't explained anything about /dev/stdin and friends here. The question isn't about how to program in C. — Gilles 11 mins ago

jokerdino

Much less questions. Congregated voters. Significantly high quality answers. == 100k rep

Sathya

@jokerdino I don't think so, his answers are just awesome.

Anwar

13:53

I wanted to use his answer to answer that question. God saved me

jokerdino

@Anwar :P

@Sathya Not disagreeing. His answers are top-notch.

Anwar

believe me, I first wanted to call him to answer this question

jokerdino

Get him above 10k rep. :P

Sathya

oh, Tim is here, too ;|

Tim

1.7k 5 17

linux shell text-processing bash command-line pdf ssh

Jorge Castro

@Roland mine is back up to 12, but I'm on it now!

jokerdino

13:55

@Sathya The curious tim? :)

2

Anwar

can't do it, he is still 500 rep behind

jokerdino

He has less than 5 answers in the entire SE network. Scratch that. less than 10

Sathya

well, yeah

0

Q: I have an Nvidia GPU GTX 470 - Can I get it's Serial number with out opening the case?

Is it possible to get the serial number of a GPU without opening the box? The current card is an Nvidia GTX470.

nvidia gpu

yeah, look at the back of the box

jokerdino

lol

@JorgeCastro oh the close votes?

Jorge Castro

yeah

jokerdino

13:57

i have 11 here.

Anwar

@jokerdino the word was perfect! thanks

jokerdino

@Anwar I have been following him since quite some time. He is one of the peculiar people on the network.

Anwar

peculiar now you say. I am getting interested.

Sathya

> I'm also a unix amateur

sure you are, Gilles

Gilles, Paris, France

20.2k 2 23 61

linux ubuntu bash emacs command-line ssh unix

jokerdino

Sarcasm level : Gilles

Anwar

13:59

Then what level we are in?

Sathya

my rep throughout the network has been stagnant :/

jokerdino

Don't even look at mine.

Jorge Castro

I'm trying to give mine away!

Sathya

promises not to look

@JorgeCastro I could use a bump to 3k ;p

Jorge Castro

find me something to bounty

I have an open bounty I can use

jokerdino

14:02

Sathya, I approve of your proposal.

Anwar

@JorgeCastro What about a question "setting different default applications for different DE"

jokerdino

But I have upvoted almost all of your posts :/

Sathya

-1

Q: ubuntu 11.10 gets stuck few minutes after booting

i have installed Ubuntu 11.10 it works fine for a while and then it gets stuck.Mouse pointer moves but everything else is frozen.Any help is appreciated

nvidia dual-boot windows

such a fine question

jokerdino

wish AU had a garbage collector.

Jorge Castro

we do

72

Q: What should I do when Ubuntu freezes?

All operating systems freeze sometimes, and Ubuntu is no exception. What should I do to regain control when... just one program stops responding? nothing at all responds to mouse clicks or key presses? the mouse stops moving entirely? In what order should I try various solutions before decidi...

freeze troubleshooting debugging

easy dupe, heh

cleanup.thepcspy.com is a good garbage finder

we just need to use it more

jokerdino

14:08

oh wow, i totally forgot about that

we need one more cleanup before 12.10

Jorge Castro

yeah, it should be easy now with the close queue

Anwar

openid failed error is shown. i used my gmail account

jokerdino

same error here

Anwar

it worked with launchpad account

jokerdino

thanks. got in

aking1012

14:18

@njallam - I don't know why you're doing it such a tedious way. If you have a notebook of notebooks and you're going to be operating on the text a lot, subclass the interesting page and define a "save" method so you can just builder.get_object("my_custom_thing").get_children()[0].save()

Anwar

Holy paranoid much? Something has been hidden and renamed unexpectedly... IT MUST BE A VIRUS TARGETING ME FOR EXTORTION!!!! ;) — techie007 Mar 24 at 17:49

smartboyhw

OK I'm back!

jokerdino

Jorge is on full cruise mode. Time to take a slack.

IAMA Sockpuppet

hi

Anwar

i have been given this question , where is @HacktoHell?

jokerdino

14:26

Don't know.

Your highness Gilles makes a presence.

Gilles

@Sathya yes, as opposed to professional

@Sathya funny, that's not the profile I'd have cited

Sathya

@Gilles how do you mean?

Gilles

@Sathya Wouldn't my U&L profile be more relevant?

Sathya

@Gilles you bio's same, I was mentioning that :) plus your U/L profile is linked above (not oneboxed though)

jokerdino

Just curious. Who pinged him? o_O

Anwar

14:30

@HacktoHell can you now tell him, what process should he follow? askubuntu.com/q/115843/61218

jokerdino

@Anwar Relax. You are not compelled to cleanup everything.

Sathya

@Anwar migrate, I can close as dupe & then merge

Anwar

oh. ok thanks @jokerdino

jokerdino

Just flag for migration as Sathya suggests.

Gilles

@jokerdino it's that comment thread that Anwar cited (askubuntu.com/a/183241). I was wondering if kmassada was asking for my head in chat (it happens, sometimes — I've had accusations of plagiarism (!), for example, in situations pretty much like this one).

Anwar

14:38

> if kmassada was asking for my head

lol

jokerdino

@Gilles I don't remember him coming to chat.. at all. Well, I did upvote your answer.

Gilles

ah, I was forgetting

@Anwar AU is older by a couple of weeks, see askubuntu.com/q/1 and unix.stackexchange.com/q/1 or look at the Area 51 pages

this was back when Area 51 was less strict, otherwise both proposals would have been closed as duplicates of SU and each other

jokerdino

In a way, both the sites left a legacy.

Anwar

Do you believe they are duplicate?

jokerdino

They should have been closed as dupes of SU.

Gilles

14:46

@Anwar no, they all have different communities

@jokerdino SU should be closed as a duplicate of U&L + Apple + Windows + PC

(the latter two don't exist)

SU is too broad

Anwar

^^ exactly, IMHO

jokerdino

@Gilles fair point.

Gilles

AU has its own audience, the topic is a subset of U&L but the two are very different

you couldn't merge U&L with AU: either the Ubuntu content would drown the rest, or there wouldn't be all that Ubuntu content

njallam

@aking1012 I have a tendency to overthink things, also this way makes the file easier to understand in a text editor. Although I agree with you, to sacrifice easy to understand filedata for a working save script may be better.

Joshua Robison

anyone know a quick way to add tiling to xubuntu?

bodhi has an awesome tiling feature for enlightenment DE

wish I could mimic that

I'm using a tablet with xubuntu so ... really want to keep the xfce panel and compositing and then just make all windows open full screen without wm boxes around them

I could open and close them from a script attached to the xfce panel

Eliah Kagan

14:51

@Gilles I agree. IMO, Robert Carataino explains it well here:

Blog - Stack Exchange: Unix and Ubuntu: Why Both?

Robert Cartaino on August 13, 2010

Update: we ultimately put this to a vote on each community.

You may have noticed that two similar Area 51 site proposals have reached commitment and launched betas:

You might well ask: aren’t these the very same thing? Why have two communities on the same topic? What, then, is the difference between unix and ubuntu? The answer to this question cuts to the very heart of what community is.

I sometimes wonder what Stack Exchange would look like in an alternate universe; one where we, as Evil Stack Overflow Inc., bypassed the community-process of Area 51 and came up with our own site ideas; a series of logical subjects, neatly organized into their own Q&A sites. …

Joshua Robison

and then split the screen. since it's only a small 10inch I only would need one split

I know that blue tile is one option

but anyone know of a better option ... blue tile still leaves open/close buttons on the windows as well as an ugly panel

Eliah Kagan

1 more close vote needed to dupe this:

0

Q: NTFS for Windows

I want to install Windows to my computer. However, Windows needs NTFS -filesystem for hard disk. I want to replace Ubuntu with Windows. How do I do that, because Ubuntu doesn't use NTFS, and Windows installation requires it.

windows uninstall ntfs

jokerdino

@EliahKagan that was closed in a giffy.

28 minutes without a mod.

njallam

Hello @jokerdino

jokerdino

@JoshuaRobison you only want to use xubuntu? or maybe try i3-wm?

Anwar

14:54

<-- (wonders how Eliah Kagan finds all those questions needing 1 more close votes)

jokerdino

@Anwar 10k close queue

Joshua Robison

@jokerdino, yeah, i expected a suggestion to use a full tiling wm but I just want to use xubuntu with tiling added onto it... like e17 does

or bodhi linux

jokerdino

:/

Joshua Robison

I still keep all the compositing and xfce panel which is cool. but just makes all the windows open full screen

jokerdino

i would suggest you ask on SU. Better chance of a good answer.

Joshua Robison

14:55

and cuts off the open/close buttons

Gilles

@jokerdino not U&L?

jokerdino

Sure. U&L would work too.

I think Gilles would answer that question anyway :)

Anwar

:)

Gilles

@jokerdino no, you might have noticed I hardly ever answer GUI questions

I answer about the tools I know... I've been using sawfish for a long time. Other wms, I don't know much.

Joshua Robison

the thing is U&L ... I almost never get answers there... is anyone alive in there O_o

jokerdino

14:58

@Gilles I do. You answered my question long time ago on U&L.

Joshua Robison

I'm actually surprised at askubuntu recently as well....

jokerdino

@JoshuaRobison no one alive in here?

Anwar

@JoshuaRobison surprised for?

Gilles

@JoshuaRobison you have a single unanswered question, it's not that bad

ok, I admit I didn't look at the quality of the answers

@jokerdino not so much, when you divide by the number of questions

Joshua Robison

@jokerdino, so i've posted several questions on askubuntu.com formally and then didn't get any answer for several days... nothing.... so then I come into this chatroom and directly ask the same question and two minutes later I have the answer

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