Ask Ubuntu General Room

Thomas Ward

00:00

those macOS installers are compressed slightly, yes.

Nathan Osman

Pretty sure they are compressed.

Thomas Ward

they end up installed with the downloaded bits it likes to try and download around 12G unzipped

Nathan Osman

El Capitan is 6.1 GB.

Yes, it doesn't include everything.

iMovie, for example, isn't part of the base DMG.

You can install it from the App Store though.

Did RemixOS ever work in VirtualBox?

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: curl with variables on bash script

As newbe on this matter its just not working how much i try on script when i use actual values on curl command it work and give me result but when i use variables it not working properly I think this is issue with how i define them on the command amz_t=$(cat amazon-token.txt ) flx_id=$(cat fl...

TheWanderer

wow MS is completely ignoring everyone

literally no one likes the new Skype, yet they're still updating it

Nathan Osman

00:14

My brother says it "improved" a bit.

I think the app is an abomination.

TheWanderer

it's unusable it's so laggy

Nathan Osman

Alas, my friends are still using it - though one on Windows Mobile and another using an older APK.

@TheWanderer And the margins on messages are so big you can hardly see anything.

TheWanderer

yeah I'm still using the 7.14 APK and I disabled auto updating

@NathanOsman and no notifications

Nathan Osman

It really is a garbage app.

TheWanderer

yup

Nathan Osman

00:16

The old Windows desktop app was great.

TheWanderer

oh no, did they upgrade Windows too?

I'm using the Win10 edition

Nathan Osman

Maybe they didn't yet...

But they will. Oh they will.

"If it ain't broke, break it." — Skype

TheWanderer

lol

I swear I remember the iMac G4 having a true gooseneck, and not the two-bracket thing

chaskes

Absolutely. I saw it too.

TheWanderer

00:31

I can't find any images of it though

chaskes

Maybe it was an optical illusion and we don't remember the real shape.

Anyway, here's the mac I had...

TheWanderer

I got my hands on two of those

had a lot of fun with OS 10.3.9's speech recognition

and OS9's stuff

"quit Finder"

chaskes

I had OS9, which I later briefly managed to run in SheepShaver in order to read an old cd.

chaskes

01:03

@TheWanderer I think our memories probably ran a curve-fitting algorithm on this shape.

TheWanderer

it seems so

Nathan Osman

We had even older Macs when I was in elementary school.

They didn't even have CD-ROM drives.

I love how as soon as I plug in my phone, it immediately thinks, "hey! AC is back, let's download ALL THE UPDATES."

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Adding run levels in ubuntu

I want my postgres service to start at run levels 2,3,4,5 and stop at 0,1,6. So, I ran the following command $ sudo update-rc.d postgresql start 30 2 3 4 5 . stop 30 0 1 6 . When I stop the instance, and start it back I can see my postgres service is started. However, when I run the following...

ubuntu rc runlevel

TheWanderer

@NathanOsman ikr

Nathan Osman

Yup.

Seth

03:05

allergies are the worst.

Nathan Osman

03:24

Yeah :(

Seth

03:38

@chaskes you had to pull the CMOS battery? that's messed up lol

chaskes

@seth yeah, it was on a lenovo ideapad S10-3. Luckily I could get to the cmos battery without doing more than taking the keyboard off. It happened twice, the 2nd time after I flicked the switch a year later, having forgotten about the problem. Luckily, info linked by @NathanOsman in an Q&A that nowadays would have quickly been vtc'd as OT had what I needed. One reason I take a broad view of what's on-topic.

Nathan Osman

Oh, I was helpful? :D

Seth

@chaskes as someone who actually uses my hardware switch fairly often I would find this extremely annoying

chaskes

@NathanOsman No, it was Oli as it turns out. askubuntu.com/a/32931/117123 (In my early AU days, I used to get you two mixed up in my mind a lot for some reason.)

Nathan Osman

Ah.

chaskes

03:46

@Seth Yeah, and now I'm scared to use the switch on any laptop!

Nathan Osman

The switch on my old laptop tended to cause problems on Ubuntu.

chaskes

@NathanOsman But that's another way of saying you're helpful. (of course, maybe it was just an OSman/Oli thing :)

Nathan Osman

:D

chaskes

The Ideapad 310 is now my dedicated RHEL computer.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

04:49

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Q: How do I get a choice of OS on Start-up?

I decided I wanted to dual-boot Linux/Win10, each to their own SSD. This, mostly, went off without a hitch. But I'm really tired of having to change the boot order to change OS. After reading around, I'm pretty sure the issue is that I installed Linux (Peppermint 8) in Legacy and Win10 is in UEF...

ubuntu windows dual-boot

SmokeDetector

05:28

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, link at end of body, +2 more: trycognimaxiq.com/alpha-muscle-complex/ by Advit1981 on askubuntu.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: fisherman and undoubtedly to enormous by hoperuideopstr on askubuntu.com

Nathan Osman

06:55

Apple Watch is getting LTE.

Why?!?

SmokeDetector

07:45

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, link at end of body, +3 more: www.pureasiangarciniareview.com/shred-fx/ by Muress1973 on askubuntu.com

badp

10:57

this single dialogue is easily the worst part of ubuntu

I thought using the command line would make this easier

xrandr --output DP-1-1 --pos 1080x0
xrandr --output DP-1-2 --pos 2160x0
xrandr --output DP-1-3 --pos 0x0

somehow this resulted in monitors 2 and 4 being mirrors of each other

Dan

11:50

Can we close the following questions as duplicate of askubuntu.com/questions/109404/… instead of closing it as too broad?

Eliah Kagan

12:05

@Dan I don't know what reviewers will think, but I agree and I've cast a reopen vote. It's a duplicate, but not too broad anymore ever since the last sentence was removed, and I think if it's marked as a duplicate then it can help people find the question that contains the answer.

user136984

14:47

@ThomasWard Oh, didn't know about #1, that should be advertised better with the option.

user136984

By the way, how come there are no weekly newsletter available for Meta sites too (excluding main Meta from that obviously)? Some are very inactive, others quite active, but regardless of that, email summaries might be nice and useful for those like myself who want them.

Nathan Osman

15:15

@badp Hey, remember when we used Xorg.conf for everything? Yeah...

badp

15:30

@NathanOsman I remember swearing at the Nvidia configuration utility

Nathan Osman

I also remember trying to get multiseat to work by editing xorg.conf. That was fun too.

noahnu

15:48

I have action_mail_acct configured for auditd. Anyone know if there's a way to force a report to be sent to test it?

Nathan Osman

16:24

"disk full" - great.

What does that even mean?

TheWanderer

Windows 10, is that you?

Nathan Osman

No, Dolphin in KDE.

I restarted Dolphin and it's working again.

It seems to be that it doesn't like browsing files on my DSLR when connected via USB.

Thomas Ward

@ParanoidPanda Yeah it's a little-known 'feature' but one reason we strongly hate VLQ.

Byte Commander

Jokerdino got a fan :D

vrom911, Saint Petersburg, Russia

16 2

bash command-line

He also hasn't been in chat for a while. Another guy I can't ping any more.

I can't get rid of the feeling that this room is starting to die out.

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Seth

It's been dying for years :(

Byte Commander

16:38

Huh? Oh, it's you.

TheWanderer

eek

Seth

But, jokerdino is on leave atm. He hasn't abandoned us.

TheWanderer

seth is different

Byte Commander

Less lizardy...

or iguanaish

Seth

I couldn't get a better iguana picture so I got the next best thing

Byte Commander

16:39

:D

Nathan Osman

@ByteCommander Noooooo!

Actually, this room is not dying out.

There have been times in the past where it was far quieter than this.

Byte Commander

It's just that many regular people have currently left for a while (i.e. are unpingable)

like Zanna, Sergiy, jokerdino, ...

Nathan Osman

Wow, I didn't realize I had 7 GB of photos on this camera...

Byte Commander

obligatory XKCD...

A good lifehack is to use messy and unstable systems to organize your photos. That way, every five years or so it becomes obsolete and/or collapses, and you have to open it up and pick only your favorite pictures to salvage.

@ParanoidPanda This XKCD must be about you:

'It has a ghost in it. Take it back.' 'No.'

TheWanderer

@ByteCommander Zanna left because she kept getting in arguments with panda

Byte Commander

16:53

:-(

Seth

@ByteCommander maybe we should up the community ads

TheWanderer

AUGRAUGRAUGRAUGRAUGR

Byte Commander

I think I did that already when the post was fresh, but I have them hidden here anyway

Seth

0

A: Community Promotion Ads - 2017

There, I copied Fabby's ad over from last year.

@NathanOsman say, you didn't put your 0 AD ad back up

Byte Commander

Does anyone have a 16.10 machine still running? I think askubuntu.com/q/946492/367990 needs verification whether it might be a bug in what comes with 16.10 or something else

TheWanderer

16:57

wtf is this one meta.askubuntu.com/a/17206/274320

Nathan Osman

It's for an Area51 proposal.

Seth

@TheWanderer links to an Area51 proposal about RC accessories.

Byte Commander

The old AU chat ad has about 4 clicks per day according to meta.askubuntu.com/ads/display/16682

user136984

@ByteCommander Sounds about right! :D

Seth

@ByteCommander That's up from last year's 4 combined: meta.askubuntu.com/ads/display/14925

Out of 2,200 clicks last year I'm not sure we got a single user to stick around. I suppose a lot of those clicks were from users with less than 20 rep..

Byte Commander

17:01

/shrug

Please make askubuntu.com/questions/84880/… gone

Seth

Ugh. Gone.

Byte Commander

Thanks

TheWanderer

17:17

what was

Seth

is yet to be

Nathan Osman

what it ought to be

TheWanderer

wat

Nathan Osman

Just completing random thoughts.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Remove windows after installing ubuntu mate

I just installed ubuntu mate with unetbootin, and I want to remove windows 7 so that it just boots straight to ubuntu without needing unetbootin. Is this possible?

ubuntu delete unetbootin

TheWanderer

17:37

what was the comment though

TheWanderer

17:59

@NathanOsman it's %1 for string formatting right?

Nathan Osman

Which language?

And what function?

TheWanderer

Java

String.format

wait it's %s isn't it

yep

AS warns me now

Nathan Osman

Yes, you must specify the type.

TheWanderer

hi%s%s

lol

I tried to copy a string into strings.xml and instead of copying the \n it parsed it

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

18:14

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Q: How to open Android studio without terminal on Linux 16.04

I am new to Linux. i am using Linux 16.04. Please help me to launch Android Studio IDE without using terminal

linux ubuntu android

Nathan Osman

Apparently, Photoshop Elements is 40% off.

Oh, nvm. It's just the Win10 Store App that's on sale.

TheWanderer

hue

TheWanderer

18:46

lol

Nathan Osman

GET RID OF THE 3 FOOT PADDING IN EVERY STUPID MESSAGE.

It's not rocket science!

TheWanderer

or, you know, just go back to the old version

Nathan Osman

That works too.

TheWanderer

pls upvote reddit.com/r/lgv20/comments/6tw94m/…

so there's hypothetical, but is there hyperthetical?

Nathan Osman

19:03

amdgpu-pro is out for 17.04?

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Unable to mount raid 5 array (mdadm), with no drive errors

I have a 3 drive raid 5 array using the following disks: /dev/sda /dev/sdc /dev/sdb I am no longer able to mount the drive with the following error: sudo mount /dev/md0 /mnt/md0/ mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/md0, missing codepage or helper program, or other e...

ubuntu mdadm raid5

Nathan Osman

Maybe finally I can get OpenCL working.

TheWanderer

no

Nathan Osman

Oh, hang on.

I think I misread the announcement :|

TheWanderer

see?

Nathan Osman

19:05

> "Besides adding support for the Radeon RX Vega series, there is now support for RHEL / CentOS 6.9 as well as Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS support. But this Ubuntu 16.04.3 support breaks support if still using Ubuntu 16.04.2 or older. This 16.04.3 support means the driver will now play with the Linux 4.10 kernel and X.Org Server 1.19. This should also mean AMDGPU-PRO should now work on Ubuntu 17.04, albeit unofficially."

Do I dare try?

TheWanderer

yes

Nathan Osman

I have LVM, so I could take a snapshot and revert if things go south.

TheWanderer

you just have to go into a TTY and run the uninstaller if it breaks things

Nathan Osman

You trust the uninstaller of a tool that just broke things?

TheWanderer

to AMD's credit, the uninstaller actually does what it should

Nathan Osman

19:07

That's good.

It's a 376 MB download :|

Be back in 20 minutes :P

TheWanderer

3G 3G 3G 3G

Nathan Osman

Oh yeah.

TheWanderer

get 66 you scrub

Nathan Osman

Cannot. No support on OP3.

TheWanderer

get a V20 you scrub

only $500

same as OP5

Nathan Osman

19:08

I'd have to sell this first.

TheWanderer

do eet

Nathan Osman

I like it too much.

TheWanderer

hey, we're also days away from second screen on AOSP

LG really needs to put more into marketing

I didn't even know the V10 existed until after I bought the V20

Nathan Osman

Argh.

Stupid AMD.

Their website doesn't allow hotlinking so I can't easily send the URL to my phone...

It's breaking my download manager.

TheWanderer

hue

Nathan Osman

19:11

They are so annoying.

LET THE PEOPLE DOWNLOAD.

Luckily I haz hacks.

TheWanderer

pls

edwinksl

20:02

pls

Tooniis

I am not able to type my password in gksudo running under Wayland

using Ubuntu 17.04 + GNOME on Wayland

it works in GNOME on X

is it a bug that i should report or should i ask a question about it?

TheWanderer

I tihnk gksudo's been deprecated for a while now

just use sudo -H or sudo -i

Seth

21:31

@TheWanderer really? lol

TheWanderer

yep

to be fair, I didn't know what the G3 or G4 looked like either, but I at least knew they existed

and somehow I knew about the LG Flex

TheWanderer

22:06

wow Reddit's vote counts are really inconsistent

they change (up and down) across refreshes

Jasper Loy

@Seth I see your new picture, too bad you hid youself in a cap and sunglasses. But you still look cute! =D

Seth

@JasperLoy :P

Jasper Loy

@Seth How do you get an ubuntu email? You work for ubuntu?

Seth

@JasperLoy No. You get one with Ubuntu membership.

Which is basically a process of becoming a recognized contributor.

Jasper Loy

@Seth Is it OK if I email you using that address to talk about private stuff?

Seth

22:18

@JasperLoy You may, but just know I am a very private person and may not respond with lots of information :)

Jasper Loy

@Seth Oh I see. OK. =D

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

22:42

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Q: Can't connect to Ubuntu Virtual Box via SSH Telnet or HTTP after Window 10 update

I had a working Virtual Box installation that I could access via a browser or SSH. After a windows update it stopped working. The host-only interface disappeared and after adding a new host-only interface I have been trying to connect to it ever since. I am trying to access the VM through the ...

ubuntu networking virtualbox

edwinksl

@TheWanderer that is intentional

TheWanderer

>_>

Byte Commander

@TheWanderer it's called vote fuzzing and is by design

TheWanderer

hmm

TheWanderer

23:13

uh

edwinksl

uh

TheWanderer

uh

edwinksl

hu

TheWanderer

e

edwinksl

ee

TheWanderer

23:23

pc

Byte Commander

23:36

Oh wow, that's a big update wave

The following NEW packages will be installed
  linux-headers-4.10.0-32 linux-headers-4.10.0-32-generic linux-headers-4.4.0-92 linux-headers-4.4.0-92-generic
  linux-image-4.10.0-32-generic linux-image-4.4.0-92-generic linux-image-extra-4.10.0-32-generic
  linux-image-extra-4.4.0-92-generic linux-tools-4.4.0-92 linux-tools-4.4.0-92-generic
The following packages will be upgraded:
  apt apt-transport-https apt-utils base-files chromium-browser chromium-browser-l10n chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra firefox

Were there any important security bugs in any common libraries that caused all those packages to get updated against it or something like that?

TheWanderer

are you on 16.04.2?

because that could be the 16.04.3 update

linux-generic-hwe-16.04

Byte Commander

I have those for a while already.

It's just the 4.10 kernel series

TheWanderer

well Chrome, apt and Firefox are being updated too

those are pretty core

Byte Commander

Hmm.... lsb_release indeed still says 16.04.2

Since when is .3 out?

TheWanderer

recently..?

Aug 1/3

Byte Commander

23:42

Ah, just found it too

Well, might be a repo mirror delay

TheWanderer

mebeh

edwinksl

my servers went to .3 a few days ago

your mirror delay is quite significant :P

Byte Commander

Ugh, Firefox 55 became ugly

For example the address bar keeps expanding to double height randomly

TheWanderer

Use Chrome™®©

*(sponsored by Google Inc.)

Byte Commander

No

TheWanderer

23:51

you already have it installed

where'd you go o_O

@NathanOsman pls remove parse for o_O

oh there you are

Byte Commander

And what is that thing in the bottom there?

TheWanderer

what

Byte Commander

Looks like a status bar

But I don't want one

TheWanderer

Byte Commander

Trying 56 from the firefox-next ppa...

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