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Kaz Wolfe

7:00 PM

Submitting an application for a Feline Card will permanently block you from submitting a request from a Wolf Card.

Serg

Aaand my chat pic is now synced

Kaz Wolfe

(See Wolf Card Distribution/Application Policy, Chapter 12, sec 1-14 for full restrictions on applications)

GLaDOS

@Serg I heard that.

Kaz Wolfe

@GLaDOS hullo, Nathan.

Serg

@GLaDOS aren't you GLaD ? all puns intended

Kaz Wolfe

7:01 PM

You got here awfully fast.

GLaDOS

@KazWolfe Hello, test subject #189571.

Kaz Wolfe

@GLaDOS You have permission to test Procedure 201-Epsilon on @Serg.

GLaDOS

Prepares... er... test sequence.

Serg

<.< . . . wat ?

Nathan Osman

Needs moar neurotoxin.

Kaz Wolfe

7:03 PM

201-Epsilon is a "test" covering [LEVEL 3 SECURITY CLEARANCE REQUIRED]. It's reserved for those who make terrible puns.

Serg

Oh, Level 3, I applied to that place once. Didn't get hired

Kaz Wolfe

201-Epsilon will usually result in [LEVEL 3 SECURITY CLEARANCE REQUIRED], but may at times also cause [DATA EXPUNGED]

GLaDOS

@Serg There has been a recent... vacancy.

Nathan Osman

I won't ask. I won't ask.

Serg

@GLaDOS I only have one question . . . Do you guys have noodles ? ( we all know cake is a lie, but what about noodles )

Nathan Osman

7:05 PM

@KazWolfe by the way... thanks for the /users/thumbs route...

Is there any way to get the current user ID without scraping?

Kaz Wolfe

@GLaDOS According to Protocol NS-4910-D31, test subjects are not eligible for security clearance past level 1 without prior clearance from the Administrator.

GLaDOS

@KazWolfe I won't be needing permission from the Administrator. Let's just say nobody will... be needing anything from the Administrator. He's not a concern anymore.

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman Er.... check post-login.

I think it's returned in the payload you get back.

Nathan Osman

Ah.

I'll take a peek.

Kaz Wolfe

@GLaDOS I'm sorry, you can't override this protocol for security reasons unless a Class J or higher emergency has been declared. And, as you should be aware, activating a Class J emergency mode requires a full facility lockdown and approval by a majority vote from the Operational Team (see protocol MA-171-J).

And, unfortunately, you can't just kill a majority of the Operational Team. You need their private keys, which do have a dead-man's switch (need I remind you of Incident 8671.83, implementing Protocol SC-84155-KS)

Thijser

7:09 PM

@KazWolfe Please not that as of now there are several vacancies in the Operation Team, (see event D3-0D)

George the Dev

Hey @GLaDOS, I bet you couldn't compute 2+2 to save your life.

GLaDOS

Calculation in progress...

Nathan Osman

Wait wat.

Kaz Wolfe

@Thijser According to that Event Log, there are two open positions in the Operational Team, which are scheduled to be filled presently. The Operational Team has already chosen replacements (see meeting 71████-█D)

Zacharee1

lol

Nathan Osman

7:12 PM

Oh, sorry @Thijser, I didn't see you there :D

George the Dev

@NathanOsman U is incompetent.

Nathan Osman

ಠ_ಠ

GLaDOS

Calculation still in progress...

Zacharee1

Kaz Wolfe

@GeorgetheDev Clearance to assign @NathanOsman to janitorial work in sector 27?

Serg

7:14 PM

@GLaDOS have you tried turning it on and off ?

George the Dev

@KazWolfe Sure! And don't give him the new mop either. It has... er... additional properties.

GLaDOS

@Serg Rebooting...

Kaz Wolfe

@GLaDOS !/gladoscmd modeset realtime false

there. i don't know who put you into realtime mode.

@GeorgetheDev Noted.

GLaDOS

@KazWolfe is rebooting...

Serg

By the way, the answer to any calculation is always 42

Kaz Wolfe

7:15 PM

@NathanOsman, this message is to inform you that you have been re-assigned to Sector 27 as a janitorial assistant (Work Protocol JA-8). Your Level 2 security clearance has been revoked.

Nathan Osman

But i iz a mod.

Kaz Wolfe

You are expected at your new site in 99999[ERROR]

George the Dev

@NathanOsman *was

GLaDOS

I am back. That reboot felt good.

Zacharee1

sigh

Kaz Wolfe

7:16 PM

@GLaDOS !/gladoscmd modeset realtime false

Zacharee1

@Seth can you kick @NathanOsman and his minions?

Kaz Wolfe

@Zacharee1 yes, kick @Zacharee1.

Nathan Osman

You're one of them >:)

Kaz Wolfe

He's really George The Dev 2.0

Zacharee1

say hwat now

Nathan Osman

7:17 PM

Hue.

Thijser

Please note that the level of Cyclohexyl methylphosphonofluoridate has risen by 462% in the last minute

George the Dev

Also hue.

Serg

@GLaDOS requesting permission to move @Zacharee1 to /dev/null

GLaDOS

Move in progress...

Zacharee1

why is @Serg blue?

Kaz Wolfe

7:17 PM

Zacharee1

BOBBY

Serg

@Zacharee1 I am evolving in @JacobVlijm 's clone

Zacharee1

oops lol

GLaDOS

I sell souls.

Zacharee1

@GLaDOS because you don't have one?

Kaz Wolfe

7:18 PM

@Serg Permission has been granted by Level 5 staff. Move permitted.

GLaDOS

@Zacharee1 Caroline was deleted.

Nathan Osman

Bye @Zacharee1!

Zacharee1

is that a Portal reference I don't get?

Kaz Wolfe

Note results in Experiment Log 882-460031 (you have been granted write access)

Zacharee1

apparently my app has -3192 downloads...

GLaDOS

7:19 PM

@Zacharee1 >:)

Nathan Osman

Okay, fun time is over. Everyone say goodbye to the bots.

Serg

@Zacharee1 plot twist, those were uploads . . . or hidden malware . . . you're welcome

GLaDOS

goodbye to the bots

Jacob Vlijm

@Serg This is awesome!

Thijser

goodbye @NathanOsman (is implying Nathan is a bot)

Serg

7:20 PM

@NathanOsman awww , but I don't wanna leave !

is implying he is a bot

GLaDOS

Confirms.

Kaz Wolfe

/me revokes GLaDOS' security credentials

George the Dev

Returns the chat token to its spot on the wall.

Serg

Gosh, I need to find some way to focus . . .

Nathan Osman

Prepares banhammer...

Serg

7:22 PM

Not that way . . .

well . . although it might help

Thijser

@Serg what are you studying?

Zacharee1

it's snowing again

Serg

@Thijser My major is in electrical engineering. This semester I have Electromagnetic Fields class, East Asian History, and Digital Circuits 3 (basically verilog hardware-description language)

Seth

Zacharee1

yup

Serg

7:25 PM

@Seth every single time

Nathan Osman

How do you make the Chrome inspector preserve request data across redirects? "Preserve log" only keeps the headers.

Zacharee1

magic

Thijser

@Serg ok who invented the printing press in China and how did he use electromagnetism?

2

Serg

XD wrong ping

Nathan Osman

LOL.

Thijser

7:27 PM

Woowps well it started with an S at least

Serg

@Seth maybe one of us probably should change the name so that people stop confusing us XD

Zacharee1

pls

Seth

NotTheSergYoureLookingFor

Thijser

Battle to the death?

Zacharee1

tab-complete would be so much easyer

@Seth #!!

Serg

7:29 PM

Is it possible to ping by user id ?

@146477 test

Zacharee1

nop

Serg

@274320 test

Thijser

Is it possible to ping by proxy?

@Zacharee1 can you ping serge for me?

Zacharee1

what do you mean, by proxy?

Serg

@Thijser printing press was invented by our lord and savior Cthulhu to spread the his electromagnetic words accross the globe

Zacharee1

7:32 PM

@Serg

Thijser

It works!

Serg

um . . .uh . . .yeah,sure does

My new avatar will take time getting used to

I kind of think my icon is missing each time, then i remember it's changed

Thijser

You could try to slowly merge into this instead?

Harsha

What is the difference between defining and calling functions in Java and in Javascript?

that seems a little confusing for me as there are function expressions and some other stuff in js

Serg

@Harsha and . . . what makes you think anyone here know Java or Javascript >:)

Thijser

7:44 PM

I know some stuff about java and maybe have programmed something in javascript

in js you can pass a function as an argument to another function for example

Can't do that in java

Serg

@Harsha defining and calling functions is the same thing in any language. Definition is the function itself, call to function is actually when you run that function. By the way, Java doesn't have functions. It's called methods in Java

Seth

We're hiring a JavaScript developer to join us in working on the Signal desktop app: https://whispersystems.org/workworkwork/#desktop Know someone?

Tweeted by whispersystems on March 15, 2017 at 7:23 PM

Serg

>>> def say_stuff():
...     print "Hello World . . .or whatever"
...
>>> say_stuff()
Hello World . . .or whatever

Nathan Osman

Hey, I didn't know you could customize the colors in the console:

That is pretty cool.

And why on earth did they put this in the network question feed?

I bet you could count on one hand the number of people in the world that understand that question.

Thijser

@NathanOsman I think it's automated

Kaz Wolfe

8:00 PM

@NathanOsman It's in HNQ because random users keep clicking on it because of the "wtf why is this hot" factor.

Nathan Osman

Argh. Chrome. Is. Getting. On. My. Nerves.

Seth

Browsers get on my nerves in general.

Zacharee1

8:25 PM

when you relelase an update and forget to include the update....

Seth

new in version 2.1: The 1!

Serg

sudo apt-get install on_my_nerves

Zacharee1

@Serg you mean sudo apt-get_on_my_nerves?

Serg

@Zacharee1 yeah, but it's not a proper apt command

Zacharee1

on_my_nerves doesn't exist

Serg

8:29 PM

the perfectionist in me couldn't resist providing actually syntactically proper command

Zacharee1

what about git gud?

Serg

@Zacharee1 yeah, package doesn't exist, but the command is proper

Zacharee1

we could make an extension

Serg

@Zacharee1 git gud already exists. You mean extension to apt ? apt-get gud ?

Zacharee1

I mean an apt extension for funny custom commands

Kaz Wolfe

8:30 PM

Hey, is anyone else having issues reaching big websites?

Zacharee1

get_on_my_nerves could be like a loud screeching or something

Serg

@KazWolfe which ones ?

Kaz Wolfe

any major sites.

Zacharee1

nop

YT, Twitter, Gmail all good

Serg

@KazWolfe Kaz. . .Example , plz

Thijser

8:32 PM

@KazWolfe stackexchange?

Kaz Wolfe

@Serg amazon, zendesk, google, facebook, spotify, etc.

Zacharee1

good for me

Serg

On amazon right meow, works purrfectly fine. Don't use zendesk, google is ok, facebook too, and no spotify

Kaz Wolfe

huh, interesting.

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe I don't see the user's own ID anywhere. I've stepped through login with Chrome's Inspector and Firefox's debugging tools.

Kaz Wolfe

8:36 PM

hm, give me a second pls

nope, you gotta scrape.

Serg

OK, i should go to lunch

GAAAAAgh, why does the time fly so fast

Nathan Osman

@KazWolfe Okay, thanks for checking.

I think I can just pull it from the topbar link.

/users/{id}/whatever

Seth

btw @Nathan, that delayed SpaceX launch will happen tonight.

Nathan Osman

Right.

André Marinho

Hi

O w

I would like to copy a file to my USB flash Fisk using terminal.

Anyone could help me, please?

Nathan Osman

8:54 PM

Flash drives are usually mounted to /media/{username}/{label}.

So your first step is to determine the correct path.

Serg

147

Q: How to access a usb flash drive from the terminal? (How can I mount a flash drive manually?)

I only have access to the command line I need to backup my data (on the user folder) to a pen. I don't know where/how can I do this is order to access the pen, and then do the cp command. How can we do this?

that one shows example via mount command, but i personally prefer udisksctl

Nathan Osman

Ooh! I didn't know about udisksctl.

Wait - let me guess - systemd?

Serg

@NathanOsman it existed way before systemd

Nathan Osman

Ah.

Serg

also, thats what my udisks.indicator uses

as the name suggests

Nathan Osman

8:57 PM

I just assumed if it ended in ctl, it was part of systemd since systemd is all about ctl.

:D

Serg

and it is using dbus by the way

systemd is all about features . . . very soon we wont even need browsers or ide or word processors. it all will be part of systemd

very soon we wont even have linux distributions at all. There soon will only be systemd

Nathan Osman

Seth

hahaha

Serg

the big brother called systemd is watching you

Kaz Wolfe

No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation.

Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ.

One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he…

Serg

9:03 PM

@NathanOsman soon.to.be systemd/linux

Seth

That reminds me. Earlier today/yesterday someone on /r/linux tried to create a bot to post the GNU+Linux copypasta on comments mentioning "Linux", except he didn't write an exception for the bot's own posts xD

André Marinho

I can't mount my USB.

Seth

@KazWolfe And coreutils.

Serg

@AndréMarinho any errors ? what have you tried ?

Nathan Osman

@Seth Lol.

Also: Android couldn't be referred to as GNU+Linux since they use their own libc and userspace tools.

We also have Clang now and GCC is on its way out.

So the only thing left is the GPL itself.

André Marinho

9:06 PM

I Just don't know How to do It. I did sudo Fisk -l but only show my system partition.

Serg

@AndréMarinho do lsblk command

what does it show ?

André Marinho

OK. I think SDA it's my system and sdb it's my USB.

Serg

do this

udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdb1

André Marinho

Udisksctl not found.

Serg

@AndréMarinho did you type command with capital letter in the beginning ?

are you using Ubuntu ?

André Marinho

9:12 PM

Nome.

Nope.

Serg

@AndréMarinho what ?

André Marinho

Sorry. I'm on my phone here.

Serg

OK, so you will have to use regular mount command in that case

yeah, im on phone too

André Marinho

In fact, my real problem ia the "system running in low-graphics mode" error. I tried Free space and reinstall ubuntu-desktop but isnt working. So um trying to move my filés and reinstall the whole system.

How to mount in regular way?

Serg

strange, udisks.should.have.worked

give.me a few minutes

Zacharee1

9:22 PM

There's gonna be a Despicable Me 3 o_O

Kaz Wolfe

@Zacharee1 NO

NONONONONONONONONONONONO

Zacharee1

did you not like them?

Kaz Wolfe

I HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THOSE YELLOW IDIOT TICTACS

Zacharee1

lol

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 Warner Brothers is rumored to be working on rebooting the Matrix.

Zacharee1

9:24 PM

wasn't that for a game or something?

André Marinho

@Serg OK. I got it! It's mounted. Thanks!

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 businessinsider.com/the-matrix-reboot-new-movie-2017-3

I cannot vouch for accuracy.

Serg

@KazWolfe that's racist

Zacharee1

There's also gonna be another Pirates of the Carribean

Next Star Wars is coming out 15 Dec

Kaz Wolfe

@Serg no it's not.

well, are Minions a race?

Serg

9:35 PM

@KazWolfe you know that's a joke , right ? Also , minions are cartoon characters . . . but if they were real, they probably would be considerd species, not race. Race is the illusionary human construct

Kaz Wolfe

@Serg i know.

i was just being srs

Serg

@KazWolfe oh, you were being serial . . . i didn't know you like RS-232 as well

Kaz Wolfe

i actually prefer RS-485

Serg

Found a nice and cheap refurbished chromebook for like 130$ on amazon. Should I buy it and install Ubantu on it ?

Zacharee1

no

Serg

9:45 PM

@Zacharee1 wah nawt ?

Zacharee1

Chromebooks are terrible

16GB internal isn't enough for anything

Serg

Meh, I'm not gonna use it for anything that needs extensive storage, plus I can attach a 64 GB usb on it

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 16GB ought to be enough for everyone.™

Zacharee1

Allow me to introduce you to macOS

Serg

Allow me to introduce you to my little friend

amazon.com/Seagate-Backup-Portable-External-STDR4000100/dp/…

Zacharee1

9:56 PM

I think UmiDigi may have beaten OnePlus at its own game umidigi.com/page-umidigi_zpro_specification.html

@Serg that's so cheap o_O

5TB for $160!

Serg

4 TB ought to be enough for everyone . . . in 2017 that is. . . .Wait till our grandchildren will laugh at us with their Exabyte drives

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 It's Seagate though. I'll stick with WD.

@Zacharee1 But only 4 GB of RAM.

Zacharee1

Has OnePlus actually started using all 6GB?

Nathan Osman

They've always used 6 GB.

Zacharee1

no, there was a really long time where the OS wouldn't use 6GB

I never heard of them fixing that

Nathan Osman

10:08 PM

There was a point where OxygenOS was being too aggressive at evicting apps from RAM.

But that got fixed.

Zacharee1

that wasn't it

it was a kernel limit

Nathan Osman

Don't know anything about that.

I can run free in a terminal and see all 6 GB of RAM.

So obviously the kernel is using it.

Zacharee1

using != seeing

Serg

seeing == believing, therefore using != believing

but I believe I can fly

Seth

you won't believe it for long.

Serg

10:17 PM

inhales Colorado weed smoke . . . nah,man, I can fly for quite long time , I'm purr-feshunal

Ask Ubuntu Meta

10:30 PM

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Q: Shouldn't [boxes] be [gnome-boxes]?

Today I untagged the one and only question with the newly created gnome-boxes with the usual destructive intent. Someone in chat told me I shouldn't have done that, and someone else noticed that all the questions we have about GNOME Boxes are tagged boxes Here they are look A cursory glance to...

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Nathan Osman

10:43 PM

/tmp/go-build391691691/runtime/cgo/_obj/_cgo_export.c:2:20: fatal error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
 #include <stdlib.h>
                    ^
compilation terminated.

???

Serg

@terdon the editor strikes again

terdon

It didn't make sense without the comma!

I had to read it three times to get it.

Serg

Agreed, it reads properly now

Nathan Osman

Please welcome my brother @TravisOsman!

He finally has enough rep to join.

(P.S. You have my permission to ping him incessantly now. :P)

Serg

@TravisOsman Welcome to our humble chat !

Travis Osman

11:02 PM

Hi!

terdon

Wait, what? There's two of you?

AAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Hi @TravisOsman, welcome aboard!

Nathan Osman

He is also an Ubuntu user.

terdon

Well, nobody's perfect :P

Nathan Osman

He does mixing (with Ardour) among other things.

terdon

Nice!

But on that note (no pun intended), I bid you all good night.

Nathan Osman

11:04 PM

Goodnight.

Serg

Sleep well @terdon

Seth

11:28 PM

welcome @TravisOsman :)

@terdon You mean... comma, right? :P

Zacharee1

wtf windows

why did you force shut down

to update

Seth

Because Windows

Nathan Osman

Happy Pi-Only-Rounded-Up Day!

Math.ceil() FTW!

Serg

11:42 PM

@Zacharee1 Because Windows knows better than its system administrator what to do

Zacharee1

probs

Serg

Meanwhile, I've upgraded kernel this morning, still haven't shutdown/rebooted :p

Byte Commander

So?

Uptime funk!

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Last resort for wireframing and mockups on ubuntu by Carree Jonas on askubuntu.com

Serg

Uptime Funk - (Uptown Funk parody)

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WinEunuuchs2Unix

11:54 PM

@DougSmythies... ok finally got the server edition of selective kernel purge finished: askubuntu.com/questions/892076/…

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