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Byte Commander

5:13 PM

@terdon posted and expanded my con argument rebuttal: meta.askubuntu.com/a/15746/367990

Did you already cast your downvote or was that somebody else?

terdon

Yep, already seen and downvoted >:)

Byte Commander

I updated it after the first post though, you might want to read it again?

(not really assuming that this is going to change your opinion, but anyway)

CodeX

3 - 7 Votes

terdon

@ByteCommander Not really, no :) If we could include code from PPAs instead of linking them, I would much prefer to do so. Since we can't, we have no choice.

Byte Commander

o.O

Rinzwind

5:24 PM

@jokerdino HAM VES ROS (10 sec penalty drops him to 3rd)

jokerdino

:(

@Rinzwind I root for ROS.

Byte Commander

afk, time to vacuum the floor...

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Where is pywfdb installed from pip?

Condition: unable to find pywfdb module/library installed by pip Differential conditions: upstart/systemd design bugs in Ubuntu since Ubuntu >=14.10 Settings PATH /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin PYTHONPATH blank in $HOME/.bashr...

Rinzwind

@jokerdino he aint going to be WC :+

Anonymous

5:46 PM

Okay, okay, I'm about to erase my disk to install Xubuntu. Do I want to use LVM? IDK what it is, but is it good?

jokerdino

@Rinzwind :(

Rinzwind

:-)

Anonymous

I'll just skip LVM and drive encryption then...?

Android Dev

This guy wants to mirror his display, right? askubuntu.com/q/797073/518562

CodeX

I don't think you will need LVM .. unless you are installing it on a server

Android Dev

5:53 PM

@onebree LVM = Logical Volume Management.

Anonymous

What about encrypting the new Xubuntu installation for security

Android Dev

@onebree Encryption will slow down your boot times.

CodeX

I would not choose encryption

Anonymous

And does "erase disk and install Xubuntu" format the disk, or just delete all partitions/data?

Anonymous

Okay no encryption

Android Dev

5:55 PM

@onebree It rewrites the partition table.

CodeX

unless I will be using my laptop to store top secret files xD

Anonymous

Does that mean it formats the drive as well? If not, SHOULD I format the drive?

Android Dev

@onebree Understand there is a difference between a "quick format" and a "format".

CodeX

is this on VM ?

Android Dev

@onebree A full format zeros out every sector. A quick format does not.

CodeX

5:57 PM

if so go for Erase disk and install Xubuntu

new vm*

Anonymous

I want to install just Xubuntu on my SSD, which currently has windows, allocated space for a VM, and Ubuntu

CodeX

oh no

wait

Anonymous

OK waiting.

CodeX

is this on VM or you are installing Xubuntu alongside windows

Anonymous

My SSD currently has windows and Ubuntu. I was to install Xubuntu cleanly on my drive, removing everything currently on it

CodeX

6:00 PM

if its alongside .. you can shrink your windows partitiona

Anonymous

Do I need to format it before doing so?

Anonymous

I am not installing alongside

CodeX

ok then Erase option ..this will remove Ubuntu and Windows

Anonymous

Will the erase option also format?

CodeX

yeah quick format

Anonymous

6:02 PM

Should I regular format it instead?

CodeX

Not needed

Anonymous

Okay!

Anonymous

Thank you again codex

CodeX

you are welcome

Anonymous

Should I install third party software now or wait

CodeX

6:04 PM

I choose Install

Mateo

@ThomasW. have to see what that is... Still could be a server thing for buisness users... Exact wording There’s something interesting coming for Linux users" not 'desktop' linux users or 'skype for Linux' users, cant really expect what they will do

Maybe they will just test and make the video calls work on the web version? Could be anything

CodeX

For skype "Exciting news coming for #Linux users! Tune in to the Skype Community Q&A on 7/13 at 7am PST "

Anonymous

When I select "something else", it shows SDA 1, 6, 5, 3, 4. When I select "erase disk", it says only partition #1 and #5 will be formatted. What about the other ones?

CodeX

can you delete all partitions from something else .. and create two one / one swap

Anonymous

Okay will do

Anonymous

6:11 PM

"new partition table "?

CodeX

yeah ?

Thomas W.

@Mateo Given blogs.skype.com/2016/07/08/exciting-news-for-linux-users shows it in the Skype blog, I'm making assumptions. We'll have to see on Wednesday, but it better be a skype update, otherwise the Linux users're going to have a day of rage.

figuratively speaking :P

Anonymous

Okay so now I have "free space". I'm highlighting it and clicking +

CodeX

go back choose "Erase disk " xD

and press continue

Anonymous

Will ALL partitions be erased though?

CodeX

6:14 PM

#1 will be ext4
#5 would be swap

yeah

Anonymous

Thank you

CodeX

selected location ..keyboard type ?

Anonymous

Did that I'm entering my computer info now

Anonymous

Cool it's installing now

CodeX

great

Anonymous

6:20 PM

So it appears Razer has no official driver for synapse, the cloud config for my keyboard.

CodeX

you have Razor ?

Anonymous

My keyboard has an additional set of 5 macro keys, which I want to use while on Linux. Are there layouts already present for that, or will I need a custom driver

CodeX

razer*

that laptop is bit different from common laptops

Anonymous

Black widow 2014 ultimate keyboard

Zanna

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Q: macro keys for Razer BlackWidow Ultimate

I bought a new keyboard, a Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Elite. All keys will operate until the macro keys M1 to M5. xev gives no output for this keys. Is there a way to use keys with Ubuntu? % lsusb | grep Razer Bus 007 Device 003: ID 1532:011a Razer USA, Ltd

keyboard 15.04

Anonymous

6:24 PM

Thank you

Anonymous

I'm on my phone right now so it's hard to Google the right thing. Let alone even use this chat

Anonymous

Alright, install finished. Will be back on my PC!

Zanna

@terdon er hope this isn't super boring, but on further work-avoidance daydreaming, my brain threw up a possible reason for that text file being UTF-8 on arrival and ASCII after sorting. Maybe it had a byte order mark added by some windows program en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte_order_mark#UTF-8 which then got sorted out of its magic number position at the start of the file? (+ the file having no non-ASCII chars)

terdon

@Zanna Um, maybe? That's way above my head. I don't know how these things work at that level.

CodeX

in News : Ubuntu's Unity desktop environment can run in Windows news.slashdot.org/story/16/07/10/1436208/…

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Screenshot cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/9023392/16705685/…

Zanna

6:39 PM

@terdon sorry yeah super boring, back to work xD

terdon

@Zanna Not boring at all. Just beyond what I understand.

CodeX

you lost me after byte order mark

Zanna

@terdon :) I will go learn all the things

@CodeX lol

CodeX

xD

terdon

@Zanna Yeah, you do that. Learn'em good! :P

Zanna

6:52 PM

^_^

Byte Commander

I added another argument pro GitHub:

> better usability for newbies

Imagine you are a rather new user who simply wants stuff to work and does not care too much about the details. You only have a very basic IT knowledge and just want something to double-click, not its entire code - I guess this is the average Ask Ubuntu visitor.

Now from the perspective of this user, compare an answer saying

"I made a script for this problem and published it on GitHub here (→link). Simply download this (→link) file and make it executable (chmod etc.), then you can run it."

@terdon Would you like to emphasize that compromise (include simple, minimal, but working script version in answer, provide updates and extensions through GitHub) in your answer a bit or do you want (me or yourself) to post that as separate answer?

Jacob Vlijm

7:19 PM

@ByteCommander Although we like to help OP, answers never are just for OP. Not a helpdesk. This is a con actually.

The lack of joined insight for me is the most important issue though. Everyone should be able to instantly look at it and commend/suggest.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

8:07 PM

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Q: How to Complete this Texlive 2016 installation in Linux?

Condition: incomplete TexLive 2016 installation Differential conditions: Ubuntu-related system bug; installation of TexLive 2015 complicating new installation Settings in $HOME/.bashrc PATH="/usr/local/texlive/2016/bin/x86_64-linux:$PATH" I have the old system from apt-get still in my system. ...

ubuntu software-installation latex

Byte Commander

8:18 PM

@JacobVlijm That described user is probably the average visitor. Only a minority of all visitors are advanced users who would actually review the code they run, like you and me.

Jacob Vlijm

@ByteCommander Not only OP, but many times, code is commented on (for the better in my experience) by other users. Although python is not that common here, I've had quite some usefull comments and suggestions over time.

...probably wouldn't have happened if code wouldn't be readable instantly. (I know I wouldn't)

user136984

8:38 PM

Any of you know how to do this? :)

user136984

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Q: How to only append to clipboard (but not overwrite current data)?

I have a rather large file, I need to copy the entire contents somewhere, but when I scroll down the page all the data I have selected becomes unselected. I could just copy and paste block by block, but I would find it much easier as there is a lot of data, to just be able to append the contents ...

gnome shortcut-keys clipboard copy

user136984

@CodeX No no no... I saw a screenshot of that today... It's not right...

user136984

:D

user136984

Made me have a very odd feeling.

edwinksl

@Zanna i see you are about to hit 2k rep soon, no more waiting for approval of edits

SmokeDetector

8:50 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer: How to copy or move a file from a folder to desktop? by jorina on askubuntu.com …

CodeX

xD

Zanna

that will be good, no more agonizing about wasting time of others

edwinksl

bracing myself for a long string of zannas on my feed when you go on an editing spree :D

Zanna

but everyone better save their upvotes until tomorrow cuz i'm going to hit the limit

Byte Commander

@CodeX @Zanna @edwinksl Long Path Tool is spam software.

Zanna

8:55 PM

thanks @ByteCommander flagged it as spam

Byte Commander

Please see mywot.com/en/scorecard/longpathtool.com

edwinksl

affirmative

will flag as such

terdon

@ByteCommander I put the compromise in bold, will that do?

Zanna

@ParanoidPanda appending to clipboard - great question!

edwinksl

@Zanna when you hit your daily cap, you will be 7 short of 2k :/

Byte Commander

8:58 PM

@terdon You should maybe add that the answer should contain a simple minimal working version of the script that answers the question, but any additional features and updates (except severe bugfixes) can be delivered through GitHub - I guess that is how you meant it, right?

user136984

@Zanna: Thanks! Hope I get a great answer too! :)

Zanna

@ParanoidPanda I will definitely be using it if you do

Mateo

@terdon ooo, here is a good cause: change.org/p/…

edwinksl

reminds me of comicsanscriminal.com

user136984

@ByteCommander: Did I understand you correctly in your comment?

Byte Commander

9:04 PM

@ParanoidPanda I don't know, but I just came up with a perfect solution. Gimme a few minutes to post it :)

@ParanoidPanda Appending to the clipboard using a newline is simple, but I guess it will be a bit complicated to get rid of that.

user136984

@ByteCommander: I wouldn't even mind a system which takes out all of the current clipboard contents, puts it somewhere where it combines it with the new stuff, and then puts the whole lot back into the clipboard.

Byte Commander

No, sorry. My mistake. It's easy without adding a newline in between.

user136984

Ah, well, you could still use the system I suggested above for that.

user136984

@ByteCommander: Couldn't you just get it to have the script put the contents in a file, add a new line to the beginning, and then append it to the clipboard?

user136984

And similar for the method where it does all that, but puts the contents at the beginning of the other contents (obviously the new line would be at the end for this one rather than at the beginning, to separate the data).

Edity

9:15 PM

good morning

yawn

@CodeX I would not like a unity desktop

user136984

@Edity: What is it you have then?

Byte Commander

@ParanoidPanda That should be possible, but I'm facing a different issue now:

Edity

classic windows desktop

Byte Commander

Is it ok for you if the command appends the last selected text snippet instead of the currently selected one?

In other words, I can find out what text has been selected last, but I don't know if it is still selected at the moment.

user136984

Selected last?

Byte Commander

9:21 PM

You select a word. That copies it into the primary buffer automatically.

But clicking anywhere so that the word is no longer selected does not clear the buffer.

So to the command accessing it, it looks like the word is still selected.

CodeX

@ByteCommander I see ..thanks for that info

Byte Commander

I can clear the buffer manually though.

CodeX

@Edity Cool

user136984

Just wait for me to finish my sandwich so that I can type again quickly. ;)

Byte Commander

:D

terdon

9:24 PM

@ByteCommander un, not really. My main point is that answers should be self contained. I don't see git as adding any extra value at all. All I'm saying is that if you want to use it, please also include the script in your answer.

Byte Commander

You eat sandwiches? No bamboo or chocolate cake today?

user136984

It turned into a rather messy battle with the thing! Ever time I bit into one end, all of the contents of the other came bursting out! :D

user136984

@ByteCommander: I'm on a diet. :P

Byte Commander

@terdon Then I will add that as own separate answer.

user136984

Right, anyway, so when a bit of new text is selected the buffer gets that new stuff overwriting the old stuff, right?

Byte Commander

9:25 PM

Yup.

user136984

So what is the problem exactly?

Byte Commander

And you can run a command to append that primary buffer to the regular clipboard and assign it a shortcut.

Edity

I might test the unity for windows :P

Byte Commander

However, I can not determine whether a word is still selected at the moment or not. I only know which word you selected last.

user136984

@ByteCommander: So is the only issue that if no word is selected and I run the command that it will just take what I previously took?

Byte Commander

9:28 PM

Exactly.

user136984

Oh, that's no big issue then. :)

user136984

I don't mind.

user136984

But how do other programs avoid this problem?

user136984

Or perhaps do they not but because the contents is the same you just don't notice?

Byte Commander

I don't know, probably they simply do not use xsel but a lower level library

user136984

9:29 PM

Would it be possible to manually clear the buffer after a successful append or something?

Byte Commander

Yes, I can clear the buffer manually at any time you wish.

You want me to do that to prevent double-appending?

user136984

Yes, unless you can think of any unintended side-effects?

user136984

Like this wouldn't affect normal copy and paste activities would it?

Byte Commander

I don't think so, testing it at the moment...

No, it should not affect it.

user136984

Good, then implement that. :)

Byte Commander

9:32 PM

Except in the terminal window. If you reset the primary buffer there, the highlighted selection gets canceled.

user136984

And have you got the opposite thing of adding the text to the beginning instead (with and without the new line depending on they shortcut)?

Byte Commander

You can do that manually using whatever tools you want. Maybe printf or something like that should do a good job here.

It's all about reading the primary buffer and writing to the clipboard. Everything in between is exchangeable.

user136984

@ByteCommander: Perhaps make it (the manual clearing of the primary buffer) an optional functionality then (get it to call the script with an argument specifying whether or not it should do this).

user136984

@ByteCommander: But for what I am doing in Terminal it doesn't really matter so much even if it does deselect the text, but some may prefer otherwise so you could add the option in.

Byte Commander

it'S not a script, but simple one-liners.

You can add an ; xsel -c at the end or not.

user136984

9:37 PM

Well, it doesn't really bother me anyway if it selects the stuff in Terminal or not.

user136984

So you could just say that then.

user136984

@ByteCommander: How close are you to completing the answer?

user136984

:)

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