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Takkat

06:03

Good morning :)

George Edison

@Takkat Morning.

Takkat

is there a download for Angry Birds?

George Edison

You can play it offline, if that's what you mean.

Just add it from the Chrome web store.

As soon as you bring it up, it will download and install.

Takkat

ah I see - saves a lot of bandwith when on mobile then :)

George Edison

True.

And thankfully it preserved my high score.

Takkat

06:08

yeah that alway annoys me when high scores and levels are gone as soon as I go offline

George Edison

I would be devastated because I have really high scores on all of the levels.

Takkat

:) I'd love to find more time to play.

If I did this here I would never have to work again

Tempting...

George Edison

"With iOS 5, you no longer need a computer to own an iPad, iPhone, or iPod touch. Activate and set up your device wirelessly, right out of the box."

Cool! That's good for Ubuntu users.

Takkat

If that was true... is skeptical

Was it so, that you needed to have a computer to own an iPhone...?

George Edison

@Takkat To activate it, you did.

In fact, you needed iTunes to set it up.

Takkat

06:22

Oh! Good I never thought of wanting one - this would have seriously disturbed my believe in a world of good people :D

But I admit I installed iTunes those days when I was on XP...

... and missed it a bit.

George Edison

What I miss the most about iTunes was its store :)

I wasn't too keen on the app itself.

Takkat

Yeah the store was so easy to browse

Good recommendations etc.

George Edison

Just the sheer size of the store's selection...

...I mean the Ubuntu One store is nice, but...

Takkat

On Windows the app was o.k. (lack of alternatives)

George Edison

...it really doesn't have half the stuff that iTunes does.

And 90% of the content isn't available in my country.

Takkat

06:26

... and it's hard to find stuff.

George Edison

(Still waiting for Canonical to fix that.)

Takkat

only 10% availability? That's bad!

George Edison

Well... that's a guess.

Takkat

I am getting things from amazon - at least I can easily access it from Ubuntu

Always having to update the library after a download is a minor drawback.

Charlie

Are there any Ubuntu Tablets for sale in the U.S.? http://bit.ly/mjU2Qn #tablet

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on July 5, 2011 at 6:26 AM

George Edison

06:37

Amazon isn't available in my country :P

Takkat

:'( hates it when legal channels are limited for no reason

Rinzwind

07:49

these anwers tick me off in so many wrong ways: askubuntu.com/questions/51826/ubuntu-automatic-update :X

htorque

good morning

Rinzwind

morning!

Takkat

morning @htorque @Rinzwind o/ is already absorbed

Rinzwind

yo!

htorque

0/10 work items \o/

wanna go back to sleep :P

Rinzwind

07:54

cool!

I am still in bed \o

htorque

no, that's: i have done 0 from 10

Lekensteyn

Hi @all

Rinzwind

oh! :X

heya Lekensteyn.

htorque

filesystem on my ssd went bad, i just hope it's not the ssd

Lekensteyn

Emmet has lost his cookie :(

Emmet Hikory

11 1

Rinzwind

07:56

@htorque :*

htorque

08:07

@Lekensteyn it says Registered User though

(11 GB) copied, 1201.18 s, 8.8 MB/s

wow, can it get any slower... dd :(

Rinzwind

monsterslaying time \o bbl

Stefano Palazzo

what :O

registered 1 day, 12 answers

@Lekensteyn he's not lost his cookie, jorge told him to register, I've now merged the two accounts and he's at 531

\o/

Stefano Palazzo

08:28

@Lekensteyn thanks for your work on the user-script. It rocks my socks :D

Jez

08:46

Hello all

FlackBot

@Jez Hey, nice to see you!

Jez

heh. nice bot.

htorque

33gb copied in an hour gnaaaaa

Jez

anyone interested in Debian as well as Ubuntu?

Gigili

Must be in Debian room, not Ubuntu

Achu

08:57

ahhhh.. face difficulty does anyone here knows Zend framework?

htorque

> [210343.811378] EXT4-fs (sdg1): warning: mounting fs with errors, running e2fsck is recommended

gnaaaa

Oli

09:13

Huzzah! I've waited two years but I finally have Oli on freenode!

6

Charlie

09:40

Is there any way to stop Chromium (or google chrome) from auto completing searches in the addressbar? http://bit.ly/kL44w8 #googlechrome

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on July 5, 2011 at 9:26 AM

Rinzwind

10:45

\o/ immortal dragon conquered \o/

Takkat

\o/ 2 of 2 work items from yesterday done :/

now for the new ones!

280/280...

htorque

done or to do? :P

Amith kk

<\\\----- is back

Takkat

11:01

278/278 to do :'(

Amith kk

Oh mann can i please have a G+ invite :D

sudo complete --work --P_u="takkat" -p

Takkat

sudo mv work_takkat work_amith_kk ;P

Amith kk

sudo mv work_maths_hw --takkat

@Rinzwind \o nice dragons

Alvar

morning all ! :D

Takkat

<E> work_maths_hw not found on /desk/overload/takkat

Amith kk

11:13

@Alvar \o do you have G+ invites

Takkat

Hi @Alvar

Alvar

@Amithkk no, what is Google +?

is stefano palazzo here? :P

Amith kk

face>palm

Alvar

LOL

Amith kk

Lightworks has a clippy like agent of a whale??!!

Alvar

11:18

@StefanoPalazzo next class is? :P

Amith kk

@FlackBot flack 51

FlackBot

@Amithkk Flash drive. Keyrx provides a Windows package as well as a Debian package.

Stefano Palazzo

@Alvar the next class will be DVCS by Marco

Amith kk

@StefanoPalazzo \o

Rinzwind

what is dvcs? >:D

Stefano Palazzo

11:20

distributed version control :)

Alvar

@StefanoPalazzo sorry. next python class

Stefano Palazzo

like git, mercurial and bazaar

Rinzwind

the packaging sessions I look forward to \o/

Amith kk

@FlackBot lookup Distributed Version Control System

FlackBot

DVCS

DVCS can refer to: *Data Validation and Certification Server *Distributed Version Control System *Deeply virtual Compton scattering

Distributed revision control

A distributed revision control system (DRCS), distributed version control or decentralized version control (DVCS) keeps track of software revisions and allows many developers to work on a given project without necessarily being connected to a common network. Distributed vs. centralized Distributed revision control (DRCS) takes a peer-to-peer approach, as opposed to the client-server approach of centralized systems. Rather than a single, central repository on which clients synchronize, each peer's working copy of the codebase is a bona-fide repository. Distributed revision control condu...

Stefano Palazzo

11:21

@Alvar Not sure, but certainly later than next friday

I haven't written it yet :)

Rinzwind

knows anyone anything more I can add here? askubuntu.com/questions/51854/…

@StefanoPalazzo just wing it! >:D

Amith kk

@StefanoPalazzo cries i didnt attend it

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Python?! Not so hard
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Alvar

@StefanoPalazzo ouch... I might manage without it... I have a online python class at kth.se

Amith kk

^ thanks @StefanoPalazzo

@StefanoPalazzo what licence and what shall i attribute ,Please clarifiy

Stefano Palazzo

@Amithkk oh yes, another thing: you only copied half the session

Amith kk

11:23

i know

Stefano Palazzo

@Amithkk all my contributions are provided under the terms of the CC-BY-SA license

Amith kk

updates blog

Rinzwind

wtf another license :D

Stefano Palazzo

@Rinzwind another?

Rinzwind

but but Stefano! I did not release my contributions >:-D

@StefanoPalazzo my license was a paid one ;-)

I want amithkk to pay me 1 eurocent to use my name >:-D

Stefano Palazzo

11:25

@Rinzwind you did by posting them here ;-)

Well actually, I think it's unclear for the chat

Rinzwind

lol

Alvar

@StefanoPalazzo my contributes are under another license! the license that gives me 1 € per user hit. now pay up! ;)

Stefano Palazzo

from /legal

> 3. Subscriber Content: You agree that all Subscriber Content that You contribute to the Network will be licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike license. [...]

Alvar

@StefanoPalazzo crap, I want my money! ( I was mentioned in the class, I had some questions.)

Rinzwind

@StefanoPalazzo damn :(

Stefano Palazzo

11:28

@Amithkk remember that this doesn't mean we give up our copyright. All of our contributions are still Copyright (the original authors) - all rights reserved. Plus, we license them to you (and SE) under these terms and conditions

Rinzwind

we got screwed Alvar

Stefano Palazzo

if you modify the content, you get copyright on those modifications as well (logically, as you are the author)

Achu

IIS messed-up my project

3

1

Q: PHP fatal error on Zend when upload local site to live site

I used Zend Framwork with Digitalus CMS. I work with ubuntu for test/developping, the website work perfectly fine there. The problem is when I migrate the website to the IIS production server, I get those errors : PHP Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'PDOException' with message 'SQLSTATE[28000] [...

windows-server-2008 mysql error-message zend-framework

Oli

@Achu IIS messes up everything.

Achu

@Oli Hi

Amith kk

11:30

amithswebblog.wordpress.com/ask-ubuntu-classroom/python

Oli

Oh god. Why would you chose to deploy PHP on IIS?

Achu

i didn't know the host service are using IIS. They just buying without my attention

Rinzwind

when did IIS not mess up anyones project?

Stefano Palazzo

@Amithkk would you mind putting in my full name? There are a million stefanos :)

(and it's not a pseudonym)

Rinzwind

:D :D

Amith kk

11:32

@StefanoPalazzo there are a million Stefano Palazzo's too

I still want a invite

Updated

Stefano Palazzo

The trick I was bragging about the other day stopped working :\

Oli

@Achu My personal step 1 would be to find a host (there are literally thousands) that was LAMP-based. WIMP just has too many oddities for deploying off-the-shelf code.

@StefanoPalazzo Which?

Stefano Palazzo

@Oli posting a message to your G+ stream, visible only for one user, which you have in your circles

Rinzwind

n00bs -> omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/07/top-terminal-commands-newbie

Stefano Palazzo

it would send them an invite, but when I tried it with Gigili, it didn't work (it worked for Roland earlier though)

Rinzwind

11:35

g+ has a built in user filter ;) Roland was accepted >:D

3

Amith kk

omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/07/…

Lekensteyn

@Rinzwind Even worse, someone suggests DF -h. Well, I don't have a DF program on my system although I've a df one.. Worst list ever. It's like saying "you only have to tell me your password"

Oli

@Rinzwind Yeah - it's an odd choice of commands. I don't really think you can limit a list of newbie-commands to five. That's like limiting your vocabulary in a foreign language to: Yes, No, It wasn't me officer, The lady with the big maracas, and Beer.

Rinzwind

yeah well what do you expect from a "twitter" poll :D

Oli

At least a bit of awk :)

Rinzwind

11:42

yeah :D and 'sed'

Lekensteyn

They should mention man. It'd save a lot people on machines with no internet connections.

Achu

@Oli your are right, I know modern host company's are using LAMP. Should i have to tell this for my clients? this situation?

Lekensteyn

@Achu you may charge extra for this crap and recommend them LAMP.

Achu

@Lekensteyn fine thanks ;)

Amith kk

dosent @lucazade gravatar is like @htorque

Oli

11:45

@Achu I think it would probably save you some time immediately and (if they can drop the Windows hosting) it might save them some money in the long run. It's not something you can do lightly though. It's similar to a desktop migration - if they have existing stuff running on Windows, you need to be able to port that across. If that's stuff that requires IIS, you might be in a situation where you would need to keep both hosting platforms at the same time.... Which would be more expensive.

@Achu If that's the case, and they're not happy with it, I'd probably just pick an ASP.NET CMS (it is a CMS that you're deploying, isn't it?) and live with it.

lucazade

Amith kk.. i'm chenging gravatar atm :P

but it is so slow

* changing

done

Amith kk

Pingme

Achu

@Oli Yes I'm deploying CMS. but i don't have experiences on ASP.NET and i don't have a time to digg about ASP.NET I will tell them to use LAMP if they don't i will fire my self.

htorque

my brain hurts

if ((!dataFile[problemIndex].equals("")) || (dataFile[problemIndex] == null)) {

i hate using libraries

Stefano Palazzo

@htorque shouldn't that be the other way 'round?

htorque

11:55

not if you like NPEs

Amith kk

in soviet russia libraries use you

Alvar

@StefanoPalazzo does python have a variable called null? since u cant just "int a_int;" like java you have to set a value like, "a_int = null"

Stefano Palazzo

@Alvar don't do that :) Initialise your names as late as possible.

but yeah, there is something like null, it's "None"

all functions return None if they don't return anything else

Amith kk

@FlackBot flack all

Alvar

@StefanoPalazzo true, it will get messy if I declare names at the begining with "none"

Stefano Palazzo

11:59

but there is a good use case for None

Amith kk

@StefanoPalazzo is there a physics module for python??

htorque

lol that is in the whole library

Alvar

so if u want a search function of a empty search u can skip having a return fuction, cool.

Stefano Palazzo

if you define a function with a mutable keyword argument, you should use None instead and then initialise the default. This is because mutable default arguments get re-used when you call the function again

def f(x, my_list=None):
    my_list = my_list or []

(instead of my_list=[])

htorque

all they do is if (blabla.length > 0)

no null checks

puke

Gigili

12:01

@StefanoPalazzo Kannst du, bitte? kurz mal

Amith kk

@Gigili ?Can you, please? Short time
in german?

Alvar

There are too many Germans here! :(

Stefano Palazzo

vee are taking over ze chat :D

Amith kk

@StefanoPalazzo my answer?

3 mins ago, by Amith kk

@StefanoPalazzo is there a physics module for python??

Gigili

@Amithkk ja?

Alvar

12:03

@StefanoPalazzo I need to get some allys like UK, USA, France, Russia etc...

Stefano Palazzo

@Amithkk what do you mean by that?

Alvar

@StefanoPalazzo yes/no?

Stefano Palazzo

Well, there's SciPy and NumPy, they aren't physics modules per sé, but physicists will use them a lot

Amith kk

@StefanoPalazzo eg we have a math module that has function 'sqroot'. is there physics

@StefanoPalazzo can it do simple pendulum

@Gigili and? in finnish, Right?

Rinzwind

@Amithkk scipy.org

Oli

12:06

Physics is just maths. You can use Numpy for advanced maths.

Amith kk

:D yay now python can do my homework

Stefano Palazzo

@Amithkk I don't think so. you would probably just write & convert your equations into python. If you need to compute very hard problems, use NumPy, but you probably don't need it yet

Amith kk

takes out handwriting font and airprinter

Oli

Just an advance warning: From Friday evening UTC, I'm going to be AFKing by a pool in France, glass of wine in hand for 9 days.

Gigili

@Amithkk Not really, left

Alvar

12:12

@Oli congrats

Marco Ceppi

I'm back

Amith kk

@MarcoCeppi I missed you

no, really i did

Marco Ceppi

@StefanoPalazzo Sorry I missed the classroom - I'm reading the transcript now, how did it go?

Amith kk

Well

Stefano Palazzo

@MarcoCeppi quite well! I was slightly short on time (two hours seemed longer than it turned out to be)

but I'm just going to do a second part

Marco Ceppi

12:19

Nevermind

Amith kk

for a clearer transcript :amithswebblog.wordpress.com/ask-ubuntu-classroom/python

@MarcoCeppi Sara's VPN fixed ? :P

Marco Ceppi

I'm in my new apartment now

Amith kk

:D GFU

Marco Ceppi

Tethered to my phone because the internet guy never showed up

Amith kk

@MarcoCeppi can i ask for free server space and a free domain :?

Marco Ceppi

12:21

You can ask, can't say that I will say yes

Amith kk

Ok, Marco can i please have some free server-space and a free domain

is praying

Stefano Palazzo

@Marco Congratulations (is that right?) on moving, by the way! It must be very exciting

Amith kk

@StefanoPalazzo you dont know the other half of it :P

i was like 'WTH is my monitor'

Stefano Palazzo

what is going on with the chat

Marco Ceppi

@StefanoPalazzo It's tiresome. We're not done unpacking yet. I'll have the fully furnished photos up soon

Amith kk

12:24

you mean your dna?

Marco Ceppi

@StefanoPalazzo Looks like the RPG room is having some problems.

Stefano Palazzo

@MarcoCeppi on it...

Octavian Damiean

Oh hai Marco! waves

Marco Ceppi

Hey @OctavianDamiean

Amith kk

@OctavianDamiean \o

@MarcoCeppi no answer?

6 mins ago, by Amith kk

Ok, Marco can i please have some free server-space and a free domain

Octavian Damiean

12:29

I second that, on top of that I want a free car and a free house. Can i haz pl0x?

Marco Ceppi

I'm not a charity worker. You have to give me a really good reason why you want one - and I have to think it's a good idea before I just pay for things out of pocket

Amith kk

nevermind

will call in 28 years

Marco Ceppi

Unfortunately I'm not rich. When I am you can have a free domain.

4

Amith kk

@MarcoCeppi cool :D

Marco Ceppi

Don't hold your breath though

Octavian Damiean

12:33

Oh teh noes. Looks bad for me then? No free car and free house? :D

Amith kk

i know your grandson will be rich

Rule #5 of AU chat = no matter how boring the chat message if you star it and come back tomorrow one will find more than one star

Octavian Damiean

Which is pretty self explanatory why.

Marco Ceppi

Or you'll find it's no longer starred :)

Octavian Damiean

Also self explanatory why. :D

Amith kk

You mods can do that too?

Octavian Damiean

12:40

No, mods are only blue to look cool. :)

Amith kk

I soooo will be a mod some day

Lekensteyn

@Amithkk I'm already a moderator... but not on AU ;)

Amith kk

I need to be one for atleast a day :D

@Lekensteyn you are just 4 years older than me??

Lekensteyn

@Amithkk yep, about that. If you want to have all your posts appear like a mod post, run the next code from your location bar:

javascript:void $(".username").filter(function(){return $(this).text()==$("#active-user img").attr("title")}).addClass("moderator")

Amith kk

Now js to flag

htorque

12:50

heh, but only you will see it ;)

Amith kk

I know that

Charlie

Is it possible to install a .deb using a URL? http://bit.ly/k1aDhH #apt

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on July 5, 2011 at 12:26 PM

Amith kk

^ irony

Lekensteyn

@Amithkk want a flag?

javascript:void $("<img>").css({position:"fixed",top:(innerHeight-320)/2+"px",left:(innerWidth-400)/2+"px","z-index":5}).attr("src", "http://www.thenetworkclub-thehague.com/smt/user/upload/news/hollandflag.jpg").appendTo(document.body)

Amith kk

facepalm

BBL

Gigili

13:11

@OctavianDamiean Have you imported a black pic on your G+?

M. Night Shyamalan

36 mins ago, by Amith kk

Rule #5 of AU chat = no matter how boring the chat message if you star it and come back tomorrow one will find more than one star

Octavian Damiean

@Gigili I'm sorry?

Gigili

Don't have any ideas why but there's one in my list with your name!

Octavian Damiean

Well that is my face on the black image there yes. :D

Now I'm wondering myself why I'm on your list.

Gigili

Same as here, not only now but also it's about 5 minutes and 21 seconds I'm wondering

I don't talk to you even once

Octavian Damiean

13:19

Hmm interesting.

Well nothing bad about talking with me, I'm a nice person. :)

I don't bite or something.

Alvar

@lekensteyn is the sound mod ready? :)

Gigili

@OctavianDamiean Never meant that

Octavian Damiean

I know I know, I was just kidding.

Gigili

I was just kidding, too .. huh

Lekensteyn

@Alvar a custom upload feature? No. The script? Yes, at stackapps.com/q/2479/6969

Alvar

13:23

@Lekensteyn very good! :) well the custom upload thing was just an idea. the program works, that's the point at least...

Gigili

@OctavianDamiean But honestly, why you are in my list? tell me, I tolerate everything

Lekensteyn

@Alvar preset 3 is very good

Alvar

@Lekensteyn how do I change it? (do I have to restart the browser?

Lekensteyn

@Alvar do you know how to install userscripts?

Alvar

@Lekensteyn it's installed as an extension in google chrome

Lekensteyn

13:27

@Alvar you need to reload the page for the button to appear

Alvar

aha

:D

@Lekensteyn I would like to have this one :D

mediafire.com/?dxgwi33hmzy

ping me

IT WORKS

I just added the download link! this is a awesome program! gj!

Rinzwind

13:42

me wants free domain too when you get rich Marco :+

was that an offer for a free domain you removed there Roland? >:D

Oli

Digikam is a seriously heavy application to install on a non-KDE machine >_<

@Rinzwind No

Rinzwind

LOL

digikam uses mysql!? what for? :X

Oli

As its image database at a guess, but I really thought it used SQLite

Rinzwind

mysql is overkill for that

Oli

Depends on the number of photos, I guess.

Lekensteyn

13:50

@Rinzwind MySQL is a "suggest", sqlite is fine

Oli

0

Q: Can I Install Digikam without installing most of KDE?

I'd like to transition from F-Spot to Digikam because I fully believe it to be a better application for my needs, as somebody who takes and post-processes a lot of photos. The problem is... Well, I think the apt-get output says it better than I can: The following NEW packages will be installed ...

package-management kde digikam

Rinzwind

CHALLENGE ->>>> computing.co.uk/ctg/news/2083236/…

Lekensteyn

Is there a kernel developer here?

Oli

@Lekensteyn Is it? I tried --no-install-recommends and MySQL is still in there

Rinzwind

well could be you get a question on installing mysql

during the install

Oli

13:52

@Rinzwind Blimey, MS are oversimplifying things a bit there: Keep installing system updates and you'll never get hacked. I didn't know Windows update would fix bad website code. Screw Ubuntu/nginx, I'm moving back to Windows/IIS!

Rinzwind

that's why I said: challenge. They are asking for it like this :X

it's part of the normal MS routine: "there are no 0-day exploits in windows cuz we do not have any registered 0-day exploits"

keep repeating that... and you'll convince yourself :D

food time bbl \o/

Lekensteyn

@Oli I found it: digikam depends on kdepim-runtime which depends on akonadi-server which depends on mysql

Oli

@Lekensteyn Why on earth do I want KDE PIM? Dependencies drive me crazy some times.

Lekensteyn

I dislike akonadi too for its bloat

Roland Taylor

14:12

akonadi ate my dog

Lekensteyn

my dog ate my homework

3

Marco Ceppi

I used to tell teachers my dog ate my lunch

3

when they asked what that had to do with my homework, I would tell them my homework was in my lunchbox

6

Jorge Castro

14:45

@StefanoPalazzo heh, emmett's gotten 4 Revival's already

Stefano Palazzo

yeah how cool is that :)

He created his account and promptly answered 12 questions

It's called the Rinzwind-Effect ;-)

Oli

@JorgeCastro What's this edit about? askubuntu.com/posts/51613/revisions

Jorge Castro

oh, I was doing a whitespace edit

yikes, I messed that up.

Oli

I've rolled it back but it looks like you were intending to do something but got sidetracked. Looks as if you only managed to add some spaces :)

Jorge Castro

I was just splitting it up to make it readable

Oli

14:53

I see

Jorge Castro

yeah sorry about that

Lekensteyn

@JorgeCastro do you know a kernel developer which can guide me on debugging a defunct Fn key?

Jorge Castro

They hang in #ubuntu-kernel

it's the official place to ask

Lekensteyn

I'll give it a go, thanks

Freenode?

Jorge Castro

yep

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