Ask Ubuntu General Room

Rinzwind

7:00 PM

damn it Oli you beat me AGAIN today :(

Roland Taylor

brb

Oli

@Rinzwind Yeah wasn't quite as simple as I (and seemingly you) thought. 9.04 is dead.

Rinzwind

yeah I was hmmm posting before I actually realized he wanted 9.04

well at 1st I was like: ehhhhhhhh swat IS in the repo's :D

oh and I do not like the ubuntu pages for not including versions :(

this page should include a version number when swat was added: help.ubuntu.com/community/Swat

oh see the bottom! seems to work with 9.04

Oli

I haven't seen swat since I first started seriously playing around with Linux (would have been on Mandrake). And that would have been 8 years ago? Blimey.

Rinzwind

no one is showing us love for the excellent answers :(

I know someone who's addicted to swat :X

9 out of 10 ppl at work do a vi /etc/samba/smb.conf and he 1st opens swat :X

wow alot of ppl in chat :-P

and @Explorer is that you in the pix? If so: nice hair :D

Guandalino

7:13 PM

btw, hello.

Rinzwind

hello Guandalino and welcome!

Explorer

@Rinzwind =D thank u but what's pix?

Rinzwind

your image behind you name ;)

Roland Taylor

@Guandalino welcome son :)

brb - again

Explorer

thought u mean a special pixel

Rinzwind

7:18 PM

Son? :D

Roland Taylor

Luke, I am your cousin...

Explorer

@RolandTaylor But Really Boring? again?

Roland Taylor

@Explorer lol no be right back - again

I'll be away for about 20 minutes

Rinzwind

tsk

Guandalino

@Roland: Son? mmm, if you want so.. that's OK ;-)

Roland Taylor

7:20 PM

@Guandalino ;P I was joking :D

you can't ask me for an allowance...

(btw in Barbados that's quite fine, so say son to a random person)

Guandalino

@Rol: I'm sure you was!

Roland Taylor

anyway brb

Guandalino

ok, english....

FlackBot

@GeorgeEdison manpage for the gource command.

George Edison

@FlackBot: man gource

FlackBot

7:24 PM

@GeorgeEdison You're welcome.

George Edison

@FlackBot: Thanks!

Explorer

@Rinzwind i thought its a knight in ur pic :-\

Rinzwind

mine? Nooooooo that's Lucy \o

She's a diclonius >:D

@FlackBot lookup elfenlied

FlackBot

Elfenlied

"Elfenlied" (lit. "elf song") is a poem written in German by Eduard Mörike that was adapted into a lied by Hugo Wolf. The poem goes as follows: The poem ;In German :Bei Nacht im Dorf der Wächter rief: Elfe! :Ein ganz kleines Elfchen im Walde schlief :wohl um die Elfe! :Und meint, es rief ihm aus dem Tal :bei seinem Namen die Nachtigall, : oder Silpelit hätt' ihm gerufen. :Reibt sich der Elf' die Augen aus, :begibt sich vor sein Schneckenhaus :und ist als wie ein trunken Mann, :sein Schläflein war nicht voll getan, :und humpelt also tippe tapp :durch's Haselholz in's Tal hinab, :sc...

Rinzwind

Nooo flackbot! Not the poem! The anime.

The Evil Phoenix

7:27 PM

try adding (anime) at the end

Explorer

nice to meet her then

The Evil Phoenix

:P

Rinzwind

Though the anime is based on the poem iirc

FlackBot

@Rinzwind Unfortunately, I don't seem to have any information on that topic.

Rinzwind

@FlackBot lookup anime elfenlied

hmmm

GEORGE flackbot is broken >:D

The Evil Phoenix

7:28 PM

@FlackBot lookup elfenlied (anime)

FlackBot

Elfenlied

"Elfenlied" (lit. "elf song") is a poem written in German by Eduard Mörike that was adapted into a lied by Hugo Wolf. The poem goes as follows: The poem ;In German :Bei Nacht im Dorf der Wächter rief: Elfe! :Ein ganz kleines Elfchen im Walde schlief :wohl um die Elfe! :Und meint, es rief ihm aus dem Tal :bei seinem Namen die Nachtigall, : oder Silpelit hätt' ihm gerufen. :Reibt sich der Elf' die Augen aus, :begibt sich vor sein Schneckenhaus :und ist als wie ein trunken Mann, :sein Schläflein war nicht voll getan, :und humpelt also tippe tapp :durch's Haselholz in's Tal hinab, :sc...

The Evil Phoenix

DAMN YOU

Rinzwind

I knew that would happen

keep it civil @TheEvilPhoenix ;)

excellent music O+

►

that is the opening music \o

I had tears watching the ending :D

I scared everyone off?

Guandalino

I'd like to participate to the distributed version control classroom but I'm not sure I can attend.. should I register anyway? P.S. @Rinzwind, good music (though I don't know the anime ;-)

Rinzwind

you can always register but it would be nice to show up if you do (the 1st python session has 4 ppl and more registrants so that is a bit annoyinh)

The Evil Phoenix

7:36 PM

how do i install sun java onto 11.04? its not in any of the repos

and i enabled them all :P

Rinzwind

but you can always get the transcipt if you are not present so you can re-do the session yourself!

Guandalino

ok, then I'll wait to be sure I'll be there, thanks.

Rinzwind

np! :)

Guandalino

the classroom probably will overlap with another online meeting ;-(

anyway, I can handle the thing in a way or another!

/me reading how to compile kernel modules, bbl

Lekensteyn

XD

"Dear YouTube, i would like to report a major problem on this site.
This Video has a dislike button.
Please fix it.
dudu1245" - found on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJk6gZuPKRE - this comment is new and I like it :P

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Rinzwind

7:42 PM

@Oli check the comments on the swat topic ;-) and the comment here packages.ubuntu.com/natty-updates/net/swat

To someone who has powers on the wiki. I think this needs to be removed: help.ubuntu.com/community/Swat

"SWAT is no longer actively maintained, and its default configuration is not secure for use over an untrusted network. SWAT will also rewrite smb.conf, rearranging the entries and deleting all comments as well as include= and copy= options, so is not suitable for use in conjunction with hand-edited smb.conf files or the default package-managed configuration."

from: packages.ubuntu.com/natty-updates/net/swat

Roland Taylor

front

Rinzwind

back

left

right

Roland Taylor

side

Rinzwind

you do the hokey pokey

:P

@Lekensteyn good song :D

Explorer

under?

Lekensteyn

7:49 PM

in!

Rinzwind

over

Stefano Palazzo

funny tweet there

No old school insurance company, moving to a new physical address doesn't mean I get a new email address.

Tweeted by castrojo on July 5, 2011 at 5:20 PM

Lekensteyn

I don't get it. Did they ask for his new email address?

Stefano Palazzo

must be, yeah

Rinzwind

probably :D

Stefano Palazzo

7:52 PM

business idea there

Lekensteyn

Either that company is really dumb or I misunderstand it :?

Stefano Palazzo

register a top level domain, say ".berlin" and hand out email addresses based on physical ones :)

Rinzwind

what? mail adresses with street and house number in it?

that's not possible Stefano

Stefano Palazzo

219@anne-frank-str.berlin

2

that'd be pretty cool :)

Rinzwind

well in Holland at least ALL cities would own that domain

Stefano Palazzo

7:53 PM

@Rinzwind it is, it just costs a lot of money

Alvar

@StefanoPalazzo what if u move?

Rinzwind

alvar you get a new email

Stefano Palazzo

@Alvar then you're faced with a problem from the 1950s :)

it's old-school

Rinzwind

like postal services you get a 1 month free forwarding ;)

Alvar

@StefanoPalazzo what? a problem?

@Rinzwind how? why?!

Stefano Palazzo

7:55 PM

Like you have to tell everyone your address has changed now, you will just have to tell people

N.N.

If I mount an ssd@/ and a hdd@/home is there anything on the ssd that I should link off the ssd onto the hdd?

Alvar

@StefanoPalazzo lol

Rinzwind

0

Q: What can not ubuntu?

I've always wondered if ubuntu is so good that things can not do. Let's make a list of things you can do Ubuntu. It would be great to have a list of chores that can not ubuntu. Because you can do anything! They help me?

Alvar

@Rinzwind kind of hard to answer...

Rinzwind

I voted to close alvar ;)

Alvar

7:56 PM

@Rinzwind make money fly out of the cd

@Rinzwind I would if I could...

Explorer

@Rinzwind being too narrow?

Rinzwind

@NN put swap on hdd if you use it; enable trim on the ssd and pre-format the ssd to the correct blocksize with the live cd

Roland Taylor

back :)

Rinzwind

@Explorer yeah

Roland Taylor

N.N where is your avatar O.o

Rinzwind

7:57 PM

ha Stefano agrees \o/

N.N.

@Rinzwind Aye, already planned to put the swap on the hdd. Haven't started using it yet. So no need to preformat if I do all this on the live-CD when installing?

@RolandTaylor It is there

Stefano Palazzo

"member of Ubuntu Marketing Team" doesn't mean they work for canonical, right?

Roland Taylor

oh... k

Stefano Palazzo

just making sure

N.N.

@RolandTaylor It's a white square

Roland Taylor

7:59 PM

ohhh

clever :)

Rinzwind

I do not know if the live cd formats it they way the disc expects to be the best formatting; saw some comments on it on AU and UF @NN

Roland Taylor

Can you guess what mine is?

N.N.

@RolandTaylor First I tried a black square but I liked the white more

Rinzwind

@NN are you sure it is not a white circle?

Roland Taylor

I think its a white octagon...

N.N.

7:59 PM

@Rinzwind How do I format it to get the correct blocksizes?

Rinzwind

@NN I knew you'd ask that >:D

N.N.

@Rinzwind It's an Intel 320 series

Rinzwind

I used this:
# sudo fdisk -H 255 -S 63 /dev/sda
# sudo mke2fs -t ext4 -O ^has_journal /dev/sda1

Roland Taylor

@Explorer I had a minor delay in my setup of asterisk, but I'm going to try installing shortly :)

N.N.

@Rinzwind It's a square white square

Rinzwind

8:01 PM

BUT you need to find out sectors iirc for your disc and use that at the -H and -S

Roland Taylor

@NN I'm pretty sure that's a trapezoid

Rinzwind

(sda1 is my root)

Explorer

@RolandTaylor I never said 'that's so gentle of you" twice in one day

Roland Taylor

@Explorer well now you have :D

Lekensteyn

@NN Mount your /tmp tmpfs.

Roland Taylor

8:02 PM

why am I being nice O.o

my evil-juice is wearing off

Explorer

@RolandTaylor I hate you for that =D

Roland Taylor

sues the company that sold him that bottle

@Explorer lol!

chalk one up for me - one more hater :>

Explorer

@RolandTaylor want to check if it's related to my attendance here?

N.N.

@Rinzwind Is this the same thing as aligning a disk? According to askubuntu.com/questions/18900/… there is no need to do this because it's done by the installer

Roland Taylor

@Explorer hmm....

Rinzwind

8:03 PM

mount tmp in ram with this in /etc/fstab:
tmpfs /tmp tmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec,mode=1777 0 0

as @Lekensteyn suggested

Roland Taylor

>_<

o_o

=_=

+_+

Rinzwind

@NN cool! yes I think it was mentioned as "aligning". Seems the installer does it but not with every ssd at the time I bought mine

Explorer

_

Roland Taylor

@Explorer lol... let's just say... it might be?

Explorer

dumb chat

Roland Taylor

8:04 PM

I'm not sure :D

Lekensteyn

If you mount it noexec, you must add configure apt to mount it exec again, otherwise some packages will fail to configure themselves

Roland Taylor

d_b

N.N.

@Rinzwind I guess I can skip manually doing it then. Thanks anyway.

Roland Taylor

q_p

Explorer

* _ *

Rinzwind

8:05 PM

dumb? :-(

Roland Taylor

lol

Explorer

it converts all starts to bold and italic

doesn't care what you want

Roland Taylor

yeah

it's annoying

N.N.

@Rinzwind @Lekensteyn Last week I read about some disadvantage of using ramdisk. Can't recall it now...

TheX

Hi

Rinzwind

8:07 PM

heya Thex

Roland Taylor

THEX!

(not even the Z!)

TheX

Hi

Rinzwind

and there's the main man \o

Lekensteyn

@NN: 1) if power failure occurs, you loose informatioon (not critical for /tmp) 2) if the ramdisk is accidentally filled completely, the RAM fills quickly and the system may start swapping (olution: set a smaller ramdisk size using size=, e.g. size=1G)

Rinzwind

yeah but with a good working system that should not matter and the adv is less wear and tear on the disc.

so it's a balancing act between stability and durability :D

N.N.

8:11 PM

@Lekensteyn @Rinzwind Aye, it was the power failure issue.

Guess I'll put the Firefox cache on the ramdisk too then

Explorer

@RolandTaylor u don't see a knight in @Rinzwind avatar?

Roland Taylor

@Explorer lol yeah, only Rinzwind is not a Knight :D (just kidding)

N.N.

Any reason to also put /var/tmp, /var/log, /var/log/apt, /var/cache on the ramdisk? It is suggested by askubuntu.com/questions/1400/optimizing-the-os-for-ssds/…

Roland Taylor

@MarcoCeppi hai I didn't notice you had joined

Lekensteyn

@NN: For that, go to about:config and set browser.cache.disk.parent_directory to /tmp/ff-cache

Stefano Palazzo

8:15 PM

@NN I'll say no :)

premature optimisation is the root of all evil

or something

N.N.

@StefanoPalazzo True, I don't want to end up with problems, e.g. on upgrades or other changes. Do you advice against anything else that was suggested?

Stefano Palazzo

yes I do

Lekensteyn

@NN do not put /var/log and /var/cache on a ramdisk. 1) /var/log contains useful information which are lost on power failure 2) the ramdisk will grow in size 3) /var/cache contains apt package state too (which may be regenerated, but cost time)

Jorge Castro

@Lekensteyn did your kernel thing get sorted?

N.N.

@StefanoPalazzo Well, what?

Rinzwind

8:17 PM

I'd say only /tmp :-P

Stefano Palazzo

you should not optimise anything unless you have a real, proven need for it. Otherwise, you're just going to be bothered by problems - for very little gain

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Lekensteyn

@JorgeCastro I ended up filling a bug report: bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/806032

Stefano Palazzo

I'd rather have a system that works than one that's 2% faster or lasts 2 weeks longer. You'll end up posting to AU. "I've done [hideous hack], now everything's broken"

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Roland Taylor

Ubuntu command line installation is so much more intuitive than windows :).

N.N.

@StefanoPalazzo True. That reminds me of when I started using linux and someone in an IRC chat fooled me into running sudo rm -R ./. I managed to cancel after it had run for a while but it was too late.

Stefano Palazzo

8:22 PM

:\

N.N.

@StefanoPalazzo Not implying I'm getting fooled here though!

Rinzwind

:-X

Stefano Palazzo

well, they do have a point sure. These hacks will make your system faster and all that

the important bit:

Jorge Castro

When I was learning linux I gave someone on IRC a root account with ssh!

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just as bad as sudo rm -rR ....

Stefano Palazzo

The default configuration runs on millions of computers. So, it's gonna work

Rinzwind

8:23 PM

yeah :D :D

N.N.

We should make a list of our most shameful mistakes in learning linux!

Stefano Palazzo

When I first installed Debian (I was about 12 years old I guess, and I didn't speak English of course), I selected "Vanilla" on some screen. Shouldn't have done that. :D (hint: I was back to using windows quite quickly, and it lead to me learning Delphi...)

Lekensteyn

Another threat: wget http://example.com/bugfix && sudo bash bugfix

Rinzwind

I do not make mistakes :-D I only do experiments on live systems>

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The Evil Phoenix

heh

Stefano Palazzo

8:28 PM

@Lekensteyn that sort of thing makes me cringe...

Rinzwind

I might have told this before... I know a windows sys admin that was told to make shares with a SCO/Unix system and decided to use the /usr/home/{user_name}/ directories to create these shares... 1 month later I get calls that they can not login to their SCO system...

Stefano Palazzo

yikes

Rinzwind

the users discussed about what those . files are in their share and decided they did not know so they deleted them............................

Stefano Palazzo

changes the channel topic to: War Stories

Rinzwind

war stories is a good title \o

Stefano Palazzo

8:31 PM

go on then :)

Rinzwind

:D

Stefano Palazzo

When I were a lad cough, Debian came on 451 floppy disks

N.N.

If I have 4 GB RAM, what would be a reasonable size for the ramdisk where /tmp is to be kept? 1 GB?

Stefano Palazzo

@NN no that's too small.

For instance, brasero (I think!) saves an iso image in /tmp before burning a CD

or a DVD even

lazyPower

@StefanoPalazzo you are correct. as of Ubuntu 10.04 they did that, so i cant imagine them changing it. it creates an intermediate iso for use in writing the disk, unless of course you're writing an iso to disk in the first place. then it just binchunks that.

N.N.

8:34 PM

@StefanoPalazzo Better not use the size option at all?

Stefano Palazzo

@NN I'd say, relatively confidently, that putting /tmp onto a ram disk is just a terrible idea full stop

lazyPower

@JorgeCastro how was ireland?

Stefano Palazzo

software authors expect the space on /tmp to be limited by hard disk space these days. So they might well assume that it's okay to swap out gigabytes of data there.

Rinzwind

bb2morrow \o

Stefano Palazzo

if it ever overflows, you're looking at quite a crash

@Rinzwind if I deciphered that correctly: bye o/

N.N.

8:38 PM

@StefanoPalazzo The reason why I'm looking at putting \tmp on a ramdisk is to reduce wear on a ssd

Stefano Palazzo

yeah I understand that

I'm saying it's not worth the trouble :)

N.N.

@StefanoPalazzo I agree with your sentiment, I want a system that (ideally) will never break

@StefanoPalazzo Though I want the ssd to last a couple of years

Stefano Palazzo

I don't know about that, sorry

mine's only a year old now (rounding up)

N.N.

I'm planning to use the mount flags noatime and discard for the ssd

Stefano Palazzo

and it's a cheap one. So, I s'pooooooose, if you bought a recognisable brand, it wouldn't be too crazy to expect a couple of years life out of it

N.N.

8:43 PM

@StefanoPalazzo It's an Intel 320

Stefano Palazzo

oh

that's like the best you can buy isn't it?

in terms of build quality and reliability (among desktop ssds)

N.N.

@StefanoPalazzo Dunno

Lekensteyn

@NN I've a 320 too, seems reliable to me. I'm fine with /tmp as ramdisk as I do not use programs that depends hugely on tmpfs. If it gets full, let be it. You'll receive a warning and can adjust yourself accordingly..

N.N.

@Lekensteyn Without using the size option?

Lekensteyn

@NN: yes, I've limited it to 2G (my system has 8G RAM).

N.N.

8:48 PM

@Lekensteyn Mine will have 4 GB RAM

Lekensteyn

If you're using chromium, ln -s /dev/unll ~/.cache/chromium. By default tmpfs takes half your RAM

Stefano Palazzo

As far as I know, windows thrashes the hard disk pretty badly

I still maintain, it's reasonable to assume that it'll survive two years of /tmp quite easily

N.N.

@StefanoPalazzo If I get 10 year out of it I'll be happy. 2 year seems too short.

Lekensteyn

My previous SSD (OCZ Vertex 2) lasted only 5 months. Of course I had a backup... not. Now I'm still struggling with an automated backup script :o

Stefano Palazzo

in two years, you will be able to buy a similar SSD for something like a quarter of the price

that's, in my opinion, why it's not worth the trouble. I.e. might have to pay 50 euros in three years, and in exchange you get less crashes and a more reliable system.

Sorry I'm still banging on about it :)

N.N.

8:53 PM

@StefanoPalazzo No, I appreciate it. I want to come to a conclusion that I'm happy with – that's why I'm still here.

The Evil Phoenix

@Explorer welcome back to the crazy farm :P

Roland Taylor

when multitasking... installing OS's can take a LONG time O.o...

I need 3 screens :/

Explorer

@RolandTaylor oh wrong room for me then

Roland Taylor

@Explorer haha

why?

N.N.

@RolandTaylor Everything takes a long time on systems where askubuntu.com and all other Stack Exchange sites are not blocked

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Roland Taylor

8:55 PM

@NN XD

good one

I would start that but I'm out of ninja gear...

The Evil Phoenix

starred :P

N.N.

How do you modify /etc/fstab in 11.04? It's still straightforward in that you just modify it as root and reboot for effect, right?

Roland Taylor

XD thanks @TheEvilPhoenix

as soon as this install of xserver etc finishes...

it's on to asterisk :D!

@Explorer almost there :)

Lekensteyn

@NN after modifying it run sudo mount -a to apply the changes immediately.

N.N.

@Lekensteyn Saves me from rebooting?

Lekensteyn

9:07 PM

@NN: yes it should

N.N.

@Lekensteyn cheers

Lekensteyn

@NN oh, it works for new mountpoints, but it does not change existing options. mountall works fine for the options but I'm not sure if it can be used as-is (read the manual page). I've tested both in a VM

N.N.

Any reason to use LVM on a desktop?

Roland Taylor

any reason to use LVM?

N.N.

It was suggested to me in askubuntu.com/questions/51426/advice-on-partitioning/…

Jorge Castro

9:22 PM

@N.N. when you're submitting an edit, just don't remove the person's name, try to find as much to fix in the question as you can

ie. make the edits count!

Roland Taylor

+1

Jorge Castro

@lazyPower awesome, they didn't bring bling though, so you'll have to wait until UDS.

N.N.

@JorgeCastro I usually try to edit everything that I think is needed to be changed while respecting the OP

Roland Taylor

Can someone suggest a super light browser for a minimal test system?

N.N.

@JorgeCastro Sorry if I caused unnecessary work for the mods

Lekensteyn

9:26 PM

@NN: I wouldn't use LVM for sharing LVs on the HDD and SSD as your performance gain will be lost. LVM would be interesting if you're using encrypted partitions because you can encrypt the LVM partition once and therefore only need to enter a passphrase once

Jorge Castro

no need to apologize!

N.N.

@RolandTaylor CLI or GUI?

Roland Taylor

@NN gui

Jorge Castro

it's just usually if you need to edit you can fix up more than just their name/sig

Roland Taylor

lol I need to be able to see images

:D

N.N.

9:26 PM

@JorgeCastro Aye

Roland Taylor

I was going to install midori, but then I said, there must be something lighter

something about as light as a banks beer

N.N.

@RolandTaylor superuser.com/questions/152421/ultra-lightweight-web-browser

Roland Taylor

ty

that's for windows...

I'll just use midori :P

N.N.

@RolandTaylor There are browsers for *nix mentioned

@RolandTaylor e.g. SkipStone and Uzbl

Roland Taylor

midori is in the repos, so I'll use that :P

Charlie

9:31 PM

Differences between GNOME 2 and GNOME 3 http://bit.ly/rcLMuw #gnome

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on July 5, 2011 at 9:26 PM

N.N.

@Lekensteyn Noted, thanks.

Explorer

@RolandTaylor finished?? can u forgive me? I was busy on something

Roland Taylor

@Explorer I got asterisk installed, it's the gui part that looks tricky

Explorer

@RolandTaylor yeah I agree

Roland Taylor

@Explorer I forgive you by the way :)

The Evil Phoenix

9:34 PM

unforgives @Explorer on @Roland's behalf

:P

Roland Taylor

I'm going to try to install it from a ppa first

if that does not work, then I will use the more difficult method of compiling from source...

which will make me a hero

The Evil Phoenix

lies

it will not make you a hero

Roland Taylor

I shall be remembered for all ages as the guy who compiled asterisk-gui from source - just cause he could

The Evil Phoenix

:P

Roland Taylor

(oh and he did it with just a minimal install running openbox!)

^----- if nothing else that makes me a hero...

The Evil Phoenix

9:37 PM

you shall be remembered for all ages as the guy who did nothing worthwhile by compiling asterisk-gui from source

Roland Taylor

:P

at least I will be remembered.

you, will not.

Explorer

@RolandTaylor that won't change anything (I'm not flirting, no I'm not)

Roland Taylor

@Explorer neither am I...

O.o...

Lekensteyn

Night all.

FlackBot

@Lekensteyn Goodbye!

Roland Taylor

9:38 PM

<--- must remind himself to be careful coming across wrong by being a bit, TOO nice...

<--- is slightly confused

(what did I do?)

afk

The Evil Phoenix

called yourself confused

k

N.N.

If I'm gonna migrate data from one system to another and decide to plug to the hdd of the old system into the new system (for speed instead of sending it across the network), is the best way and fastest way to just cp the files I want to migrate? Or is there a better way, e.g. to treat permissions etc?

Guandalino

a lot of interesting stuffs happened tonight.. I solved myself askubuntu.com/questions/51743/how-do-i-compile-a-kernel-module and the related problem (slow broadband detection), yay. I'll reply for the posterity :)

oh, got an upvote too :p (N.N. maybe)

N.N.

@Guandalino You should post your solution as an answer and, if no one else provides a better answer, accept it

Guandalino

fine, I'll do this way

The Linux Kernel Module Programming Guide helped a lot..

N.N.

9:48 PM

@Guandalino That way other people who experience the same problem may learn from you

@Guandalino Also your answer, if well written, might get upvotes!

Roland Taylor

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