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9:00 PM
They are derived from the same folder or file?
 
@RolandTaylor anyway, stop linking to random tarballs on 3rd party websites
there's no way to tell if that's a .desktop file or a trojan
yea, they both just use .desktop files
 
I try not to do it often :S
Not to be picky but "stop linking" implies I do it often
 
I don't know if you do or not.
 
"Stop linking" as in stop it already.
 
jrg
Well, what's the best way to link to projects like that? Should we make a launchpad project that does stuff like this, or something else?
 
9:02 PM
"don't do again."
 
Just saying, for future reference "don't" is better than "stop verb"
 
okay I'm running again :P
 
go afk :P
 
chairs! (and tables)
 
9:02 PM
quoting and stuff is fine
 
@Explorer <3
 
it's the "oh just wget this tarball from a random blog" thing that is the problem
 
@RolandTaylor <3
 
A direct link to a tarball is more dangerous than a link to an article or page holding that tarball.
If I understand it correctly.
 
or, if it's just a .desktop file anyway put it in pastebin instead
so that someone can inspect it
the problem with blogs is that they go out of date
and then we're stuck having to rewrite the answer anyway
 
9:04 PM
True that. The links can go kaboom!
 
ok plane is here, bai!
 
bye!
 
jrg
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Q: Use of download links in answers

Christopher StansburyHi this may be a question that has been asked before but after a bit of searching I could not find anything this specific so I have taken the liberty to ask just in case. I have just answered a question over on the main site concerning some problems with the Grub2 loader. How can I recover Endpo...

@jokerdino take care!
That meta question is relevant to the current discussion.
But not really.
 
It might be.
Actually it kinda is and isn't
 
jrg
Ok, time to ask another meta question!
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Q: Download links in answers - best way to handle this?

jrgRelated, but not really: Use of download links in answers Ok, now that I've got that out of the way, it was recently posted in the chatroom that folks have a tendency to post answers with links to random blog sites/download sites, and there's no way to make sure that is' really what they're dow...

 
9:13 PM
Who are all the mods in the site?
 
the word "random" get overused.
 
jrg
Marco Ceppi, Stefano and Oli.
 
How did they get that post?
From the Superuser?
 
jrg
which post?
 
post as in their position.
 
jrg
9:16 PM
the were elected by the community back in Feb.
 
That's all I am asking. Thanks
 
jrg
:) you're welcome.
 
@RolandTaylor light gaming?
 
thanks. I had a good read.
This is what I am doing with my terminal knowledge. :P forum.diviad.com/…
 
jrg
that is.... whoa
looks like a perl program. :P
 
9:25 PM
It is a long string of terminal commands.
actually i wrote a lot more than that. i haven't updated it on the forum :P
 
yes, light :D
it's only been 1/2 an hour :D
I normally go for hours on end :P (jk)
urban terror ftw
When is the next election? If jrg, Jorge, and George are not chosen, the world will end abruptly :)
 
I think @jrg is all over my Facebook profile by now.
 
jrg
Nope, deleted my facebook several weeks ago.
 
What is the maximum number of mods? I think we need a couple more mods.
 
jrg
@RolandTaylor I'll consider running.
For this site, 3. I think.
 
9:30 PM
me too
 
Hmm.
 
It should be 7
(I'm serious btw)
(about 7)
 
Is that you @RolandTaylor favouriting all my messages? o.O
 
7 is too much , they cannot set a time for a meeting
 
y u no add me of fb before deleting?
@jokerdino :)
@Explorer Oh I didn't know they had meetings
 
9:32 PM
you should be a moderator
they're not available here
 
LOL
 
anything funny?
(I'm serious BTW :D)
 
me -> moderator == funny
I'm gonna try though :D
 
I'll vote for you
 
9:33 PM
yes you should try.
 
One day I will try for Ubuntu member.
 
Ubuntu membership should be easy
just need to be a good contributor in some way to the community (tmk)
 
it's awful that we cannot downvote for someone
 
jrg
9:34 PM
@jokerdino go for it.
 
Actually it's a good thing :P
Some people would abuse the downvotes thing
 
it's also true about upvotes, no?
 
I want to try for membership but they have a bad time for their meetings
@Explorer yeah
 
Well I will try it one day.
 
downvotes can be bad in elections though
especially if someone is not liked by a group of people or a single person
 
9:35 PM
Right now, I need to improve my rep in AU.
I am working on Ubuntu translations to Tamil.
 
because people can easily rally support for a downvote wave/spam
 
no, you can downvote when you cannot tolerate someone as a moderator, what'd be better?
 
And, when @RolandTaylor invites me to blog at 2buntu, all pieces would have fell in piece.
And then, I will try for Ubuntu member :p
 
@Explorer giving a good reason why they shouldn't be one
 
Wooo
 
9:36 PM
@jokerdino invites :D?
 
the evil plan :D
 
I thought you were going to ask us :D
 
Whichever way :P
 
I thought you were interested but I wasn't sure :D
consider this an invitation :)
 
:D
How do I accept it? :D
 
9:37 PM
@Explorer although you do have a point :D
@jokerdino there's no real official way :P... just create an account and we'll set you up :D
 
also, when you become a moderator please don't answer your own questions
 
I'll send you an email later with details about our "rules and regulations"
 
@RolandTaylor you can take it that way :D
 
Create what account? I already have a wordpress. :p
 
@Explorer haha
I would answer my own questions more often :P
@jokerdino I mean on 2buntu :D
 
9:38 PM
:D
 
I'd encourage people not to vote for someone like that
XD
<4.5
 
lol even me?
<6
 
why is it in my spam?
 
you're an exception, a great one
 
9:39 PM
@jokerdino no clue
@Explorer awww :3
thank you :D
brb
 
:D
 
Uh-oh... VBox just crashed on me.
 
:(
 
...in the middle of installing packages :P
prepares for corrupted package database errors...
 
autoclean FTW
 
9:47 PM
@jrg: What's CosmOS?
 
where did you pull that off?
 
> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
I thought so.
 
Is dpkg more powerful than apt-get?
 
I believe apt-get is just a front-end to dpkg.
...but I'm not 100% sure on that.
 
@GeorgeEdison hey hi
did you get my msg?
 
9:53 PM
Explain front end?
Wiki says apt-get was initially a front end of dpkg
 
bin is empty
 
@Explorer No.
:(
Would you be willing to try the process again from scratch step-by-step?
 
scratch?
 
Well, start the steps from the beginning.
 
I did it over 3 times
is it needed to do it again?
or I should tell you what I do for each step?
 
9:57 PM
Sure.
 
thanks
 
Actually, hang on.
I'll give you one long command to run - that mgith help.
 
LOL
 
cd ~ ; git clone git.zx2c4.com/sony-acpid ; cd sony-acpid ; echo -e "16c16\n< \$CC \$CFLAGS \$LDFLAGS \$DEFINES -o \$OUTPUT \$SRC_DIR/*.c\n---\n> \$CC \$CFLAGS \$DEFINES -o \$OUTPUT \$SRC_DIR/*.c \$LDFLAGS" >compile.patch ; patch compile compile.patch ; ./compile ; ./run
I know it's long, but if you copy and paste that into a terminal - and then give me the output - that would be great.
 
mgith :D
I'll be afk for while guys :D
"mgith" XD
 
9:59 PM
hoi
i signed up already.
 
:2380155 open_file: can't open /sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop/als_defaults: No such file or directory
 
i am still waiting for the invite :P
 
Hmmm...
 
@RolandTaylor I thought you were and it's over
 
it's over?
what's over?
 
10:00 PM
@Explorer Well it sounds like everything compiled then - and the bug is with the program itself.
 
(I heard the ping so came back)
 
@RolandTaylor afk period
 
@RolandTaylor Hint Hint :O
 
@GeorgeEdison yes sir, what should i do?
 
ohhhh
@jokerdino haha!
 
10:01 PM
Is there anything in ~/sony-acpid/bin?
 
lol bye all - will be back in ~45mins
 
:/
dispnted
 
@GeorgeEdison bin / sa/ compile / run
 
What's in bin?
I assume it's the program itself.
 
@GeorgeEdison empty
 
10:06 PM
What's the output of this command: ls /sys/devices/platform/sony-laptop
 
driver         kbd_backlight_timeout  power      uevent
kbd_backlight  modalias               subsystem
 
Aha!
That program is expecting a file named als_defaults and it appears that it is not present.
That explains the error message that you saw earlier.
 
Is there a solution for that?
 
I'm afraid not :(
You would have to talk to the people who wrote that program.
You might consider filing a bug here.
 
thanks a lot for your time anyway, I'd choose your answer as the best.
 
10:13 PM
:)
Yay I got the talkative badge. :D
 
you deserve it ;)
 
haha thanks :P
 
Thank you :)
 
jrg
10:26 PM
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Q: How do you obtain an @ubuntu.com email address?

WilliamI recently saw the question "How to add an @ubuntu.com email address in Thunderbird" and wondered how one obtains an @ubuntu.com email.

duplicate!
@GeorgeEdison CosmOS: think ChromeOS, but without the Google influence.
And with a Ubuntu/debian core instead of a gentoo thingy.
 
Hey gang.
 
jrg
WHOA. Hello @TheX!
 
hi @TheX
 
Whats up?
 
jrg
Trying to figure out what your gravatar is.
 
10:30 PM
Oh that,,,
is a screenshot form a video game
 
jrg
ok.
How're you doing?
 
Okay...
still gripping about the new ipod app
 
jrg
heh.
 
but that is OT here...
 
jrg
Time to journey in yum-land! :)/:(
 
10:33 PM
yum land?
 
jrg
@TheX OT for the site perhaps, but griping of all sorts is welcome here!
Yeah, Fedora.
 
Oh...
I get it
 
jrg
yay, geeky nerdy linux package manger joke!
 
Did you start the 2buntu page on G+
 
jrg
Yup.
 
10:35 PM
yes
 
Cool...
 
i am following it already
 
I think we might have spammed it a bit today with some rather useless nonsense...
 
jrg
@TheX oh, what'd you do this time?
 
um... it wasn't me.... *looks away sheepishly *
 
jrg
10:37 PM
ok, what'd I do this time? :)
 
It was Roland...
 
jrg
oh, what'd HE do then?!
 
and @GeorgeEdison might have been involved...
 
jrg
@TheX oh, the whole thing about the logo?
 
Oh sorry not @GeorgeEdison
but a few other random people
 
jrg
10:39 PM
... man, you're going to make me login to G+ to find out WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED. :P
 
Nah more along the lines of whether 2buntu is human or not
 
jrg
Oh, that.
 
It was rather comical...
 
@RolandTaylor is not a random person
 
@Explorer I never said he was... go read again...
 
10:41 PM
you said
2 mins ago, by TheX
but a few other random people
 
Yes, but I singled @RolandTaylor out before that.
So therefore neither did I say he was a random person, nor did I imply it.
 
Can I point to my previous chat message? It is starred over there >> With 3 stars... :P
 
jrg
@TheX that youtube video is sym/random/weird.
 
Um, let him judge himself
@jokerdino I'm Jerry, yes ..
 
@jrg lol no it makes perfect sense in the context of the last part of that conversation.
 
jrg
10:46 PM
Yes it does, but it doesn't.
 
But yes it was a bit on the weird side
2
 
well technically it does
ok dont discuss others.
 
stops discussing
 
@RolandTaylor I have to go to bed , it was more that 45 minutes . good night <3
 
@Explorer Good night.
 
10:49 PM
good night @TheX
 
Gd night @Explorer
It is 7 in the morning now. @jrg
 
4:50 pm here, I already have a full days work in.
 
Weee, I joined the Indian Ubuntu community.
 
jrg
Yay, you're getting involved in the Ubuntu community @jokerdino.
 
Congratulations
 
jrg
10:54 PM
You're never going back to normal life now - Ubuntu will obsess you until you die.
 
@jrg should I apply for Ubuntu Membership so I can get rejected?
 
jrg
Yes. Up to you though, since you're probably not going to get rejected.
 
LOL
 
Lol thanks for the positive spin...
 
well @jrg I was already translating Ubuntu into Tamil for the oneiric cycle.
I am now waiting for the precise cycle. XD
 
10:55 PM
Is that some kind of pepper?
 
;(
 
That was a joke :D
 
But I agree. Ubuntu has already obsessed me. :(
 
jrg
TOO LATEEEEEEE
 
yeah :(
 
jrg
10:58 PM
I was going to warn you to run while you still could, but it's too late for you now!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA :P
 
Just wait, Ubuntu is just the start of you Linux freedom!
 
you need to go to sleep. it is too late for you. :P
 
jrg
@jokerdino it's 6PM. :P
 
Oh.
Hmm
 
He needs to have food
 
jrg
10:59 PM
you on the otherhand do need to go to sleep - it's almost 7 AM there, right?
 
I will sleep in the school.
 
jrg
@TheX no, I need to get away from amazon cloud docs. That stuff is confusing as heck.
 
@jrg lol
 

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