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16:00
@kalina You are irrelevant. Prepare to be assimilated.
@RoryAlsop So, user has a six-month history of just plain being stupid on SE. And they apparently seem to be trying to hand off their adult responsibilities, and insisting that the businesses they deal with bend their policies to suit their personal whimsy. I'm not sure SE is the only thing they need to be banned/suspended from.
@Iszi And you taste the delights of being a mod
@RoryAlsop random Q. for you did Emma Leave $large_bank?
@JourneymanGeek 111?
the grammar there seems odd ;p
16:10
@RоryMcCune Emma = @RoryAlsop's XYL?
@RоryMcCune yes
@Iszi XYL?
@Iszi I'm pretty sure that whatever XYL is, the answer is no
@RoryAlsop ahh didn't think there'd be that many people with the same name who were security directors
@RоryMcCune Amateur Radio slang for "wife/girlfriend".
16:11
@RoryAlsop who's the new Emma?
@Iszi ... LOL no then
@RоryMcCune now at $LARGE_TELECOMS_CO
@RоryMcCune there isn't one yet
@RoryAlsop that was the context I saw the name in
which is causing some challenges
@RoryAlsop was that your interview you had then?
:op
@RоryMcCune heh - no. Although I'm unsure as to whether the role will be up. I will apply if it is, but I think that it is not going to exist
that whole function now reports in via the CTO
which is ... odd
16:16
@RoryAlsop Ew.
Oh. @RoryAlsop @RоryMcCune - Apparently UD says that XYL is wife, YL is girlfriend. Though I always understood YL to just be any "young lady".
@Iszi I have only once ever had a YL called Emma. Rest easy that this one wasn't any kind of YL
@RoryAlsop that is .. odd, you'd have thought CRO or these days direct to the board
@RoryAlsop Interestingly enough, hams don't have a slang for "old lady". Technically, I guess XYL (based on the fact that many seem to interpret it as "ex-young lady") would work, if it weren't for the general usage of that term to specify someone in a romantic relationship. And also interesting is that all males in ham radio are called "OM".
@RоryMcCune I have discussed appropriate models, and things may change (my preference is CISO, but hey)
@RoryAlsop ahh CISO there's a poison chalice of a role, if ever I saw one
16:22
@RоryMcCune Yeah - I've sort of revised my long term career aspirations to not have CISO, but perhaps have CRO :-P
until the responsibilities are sorted out industry-wide, or at least agreed
Interestingly, Wiki says that about a third of CISOs still report to the CIO.
Bah. Wikipedia should cache all reference pages.
@RoryAlsop yeah safer.
Now that would be a cool feature. Cache the page, and when you click the reference you're automatically jumped to the relevant section of the page (which is also highlighted).
any job where responsibility is greatly > than authority is a bad idea (tm)
Anyhoo. All that to say that the one reference for the CISO article is a borked link.
16:27
if anyone's looking for security vids to watch B-Sides Manchester have their track one stuff up
Videos from @BSidesMCR Track 1 are now on our YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1mLiimOTqZFK98VwM8Ke4w The rest are coming, as are the slides. Enjoy
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Q: cryptographically linkable random tokens

user3312054Are there any algorithms/protocols that let you produce a specific length of random tokens/bits in such a way that you can cryptographically determine which 2 or more tokens/bitstrings where produced using the same seed/key. Is it possible at all? any pointers will be greatly appreciated For exa...

:24259446 sorry had to remove that
I mean, I didn't have to, but I had to :)
Yeah, :24259446.
@TildalWave wrong tab?
hmmmm huh?
@RoryAlsop no one @Simon is quite enough thank you, I don't have multiple tabs where I converse with other @Simons open :P
16:36
wot
Oh. Did we miss this?
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Q: Congratulations! Cryptography is graduating!

Grace NoteIt's a big day. You've been cleared for graduation by the Stack Exchange Community Team! Cryptography has already met our threshold for graduation-worthy sites, and today joins in the new design-independent graduation process! Reaching 'mature community' status is a big milestone, and you should ...

@Iszi No, you did.
Proof:
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Q: Migration path to crypto.se

MarkCrypto.se is graduating. Does that mean we can finally add an official "vote-to-close" option for our fourth-most-popular migration target?

@Simon The statement seems to presume you're speaking to one entity.
@Iszi we all knew it was
it's just you
rekt
16:41
@Iszi I wouldn't say we were missing it Iszi
@Iszi pls, do you even star trek?
if I was irrelevant the borg would leave me alone as I would provide no obvious biological or technological improvement over the collective in its current configuration
if you're going to put me down with such geeky things, at least get them right
@kalina pls, my ex-dad is the nurdiest of them all, of course he star treks.
@Simon obviously not in this instance
@RoryAlsop It's bad as essentially a list question, making it too broad. TL;DR there isn't any single definitive answer to it that can be voted to the top and accepted, that wouldn't also be too long to write.
since a little girl just ran rings around him
he should be ASHAMED
also his geek card should be revoked immediately
and set on fire
16:44
gotta love longer TL;DR's than main content LOL
@kalina That reminds me of that picture of a house burning down and the little girl holding a book of matches
oh somebody illustrated me in action?
3
oh yes :)
16:45
@DavidFreitag that the one?
oh that's like a decade old, before I went into witness protection
Some images there is a little hand with a book of matches shopped in there too
Man, the fogey beat me to the image. What is this world coming to?
@DavidFreitag YNFYL
@RoryAlsop really? why just a week then?
@RоryMcCune hwat?
16:47
I thought suspensions are supposed to be incremental
@DavidFreitag "You're Not Fast, You're Last"
:op
did you just make that up
@RоryMcCune I'd rather be last to a fogey than be a fogey :D
Three logicians walk into a bar.
The bartender asks, "Do you all want something to drink?"
The first logician says, "I don't know."
The second logician says, "I don't know."
The third logician says, "Yes."
@kalina Presumably, since when I googled "YNFYL" google was like WAT?!
16:48
@DavidFreitag he has image powerzzz
variants thereon
@Iszi boring
@TildalWave yes, but this was for his editing - quite a minor issue, but he got flagged a fair bit, and it upset folks
@RoryAlsop I spend a few seconds pondering what my search history would look like to other people with "girl watching house burn down" in it
@RоryMcCune Timberland featured a zombie in one of their ads?
16:49
@DavidFreitag I can't imagine that makes it worse than it already was
@DavidFreitag they'll assume you are searching for a meme, same as everyone else
@kalina At work? My search history contains only "digikey ..."
I'm pretty sure based on some of your other conversations you've already got something like "how to be intimate with an oscilloscope"
@RoryAlsop ah ok, as long as he's upset about as much about his suspension as all of us about whatever he didn't comply with this time :P
@kalina I didn't need to google how to be intimate with an oscilloscope, that was ingrained in my DNA.
16:51
@TildalWave if that's the benchmark, I'm way more unhappy than he is
and thus his ban should be extended to literally 9000 years
since my unhappiness is over 9000
@kalina it was a bit cynical remark actually
I try to be fair based on what I personally see
@DavidFreitag that's a bit disturbing
for which I apologize
@TildalWave :o
16:52
I do take into account his suspensions elsewhere, but mostly as a slight reduction of my tolerance level, as he should know better
where is the real @TildalWave and who are you?
@kalina this is Canadian @Tildal
ew, Canadian? :/
@kalina I'm here, I just found a coffee so good that everything looks better after drinking it
@kalina Please, like you had to search google for how to properly play with the knobs on your audio equipment :P
16:53
might involve a bit of scotch in it tho
@DavidFreitag no but I did need to google on ... nevermind
@kalina Really? I bet that produced some interesting results.
@kalina whaaaaat 9000?!?!
@DavidFreitag you'd be surprised how few women get turned on by hardware synths
like, I'm alone in the world
I should just /quit
@RоryMcCune over NINE THOUSAND
@DavidFreitag I'm sooooo tempted to edit that to remove "audio" LOL
16:55
@TildalWave mod abuse is not big or clever, or... acceptable
@TildalWave I really really wanted to say that without the "on your audio equipment" but I think that would be too easy to flag.
but if you want to be the room's next lighty, feel free
@kalina talking about it helps tho, and is at least acceptable if not big or clever :P
^Villains of DBZ
@RоryMcCune LOL
16:56
@DavidFreitag in DMZ? c'mon it would be pinned to the star wall
I've never watched DBZ so fortunately I can ignore that completely missed reference
@kalina Me too
@kalina :o
@kalina but that was the over 9000 reference!!
@RoryAlsop :O
16:57
@RоryMcCune gamer, duh
I have seen the clip, but DBZ makes me need to turn over after about 2 seconds
I've never even attempted
@kalina Do you regularly use references to things you have never seen before?
hey twitter suspended the account that replied to every mention of 9000 in a tweet with "9000 ?!??!?!"
I don't do anime
16:58
@RoryAlsop You should watch DBZ abridged. It's hysterical.
@RoryAlsop you should try the vid @DavidFreitag talked about
@RоryMcCune #rekt
seriously
there is an echo in here
@DavidFreitag no idea what you're on about guv
can we set up an anechoic chamber to remove the echos
16:59
Although do be warned @RoryAlsop it is pretty NSFW
Which reminds me, what happened to Duck Quacks Don't Echo? I enjoyed that series
@DavidFreitag I'd cope with that, it's the graphic style and voices in the original that I object to
@TildalWave it's still on
I think
Saw it last week
It is? Oh I missed it then :(
you guys noticed there's a new Limitless series with the actor from the movie?
looks good so far
@RoryAlsop The abridged series is not done by the original creators
The voice acting is better, and they reduced the whole 300 or so episodes down to like 50
And the fact that it's hysterical makes up for some of the issues
@kalina Sure, all you need is some cardboard and a lot of free time
17:09
olle
@RоryMcCune which clip?
@DavidFreitag ty
lol youtube isnt loading for some reaason
Was following up on the ping about the latest suspension... and looking at the list of suspensions... some people have really tried extra hard and their suspensions end in 2024/2025. One poor bastard got 2042.
@kalina - never played this, but it's a game, with explosions:
17:15
it's basically GTA
the other one is Saints Row
Hmm, apparently they're network-wide suspensions, not our own... but often 3650 days and 10240 is apparently another magic number.
@JeffFerland trying to remember who that was
ahh - not one of ours
our longest is 2026
@JeffFerland what do you do to get suspended until then?
@RoryAlsop what did he do to deserve that :P?
@LucasKauffman many, many things. Over and over and over...
@LucasKauffman I imagine it would be like 5th major offense
17:27
@kalina For me it'd probably be a faked one
@Iszi - you were being very sensible with your comments, but that is what she does - she drags it out into huge discussions and then acts surprised when folks get annoyed. SO I have just deleted the entire thing.
@RoraΖ ew - you fake it?
@RoryAlsop Yeah you know, when I'm tired it's enough already.
that's how we got @JohnP here, so all is good
@TildalWave He's used to people faking it?
"In either case, I believe that we need to prompt for research, not to close it for a canned reason." This is exactly what I was thinking. "Closed Question" seems too harsh an action. Would it be too much to edit the question to include the questions we'd like the OP to answer? — RoraΖ 46 secs ago
@RoraΖ hehe dunno about that
but he like digs or masters or something martial arts and with @Simon around we can use more of those
17:39
wot
Because I attract trouble?
Oh well, #yolo.
@Simon #sleds
17:57
@RoryAlsop DUUUUUUDE I CAN'T WAIT
JC 2 was da bomb
@TildalWave Not a master yet. Got probably about...mmm, maybe 8-9 more years before I can get that title.
@JohnP You can jujitsu the jam out of a donut can you? That's good enough :D
@TildalWave Does Google-fu count?
@TildalWave Oh, don't mention donuts. I just started back into the gym and eating better. :( :(
@LucasKauffman no :)
18:02
@JohnP What kind of world do you live in to ask someone to not mention donuts?
@DavidFreitag Googling "How to play with your knob" could be interesting. :)
@JohnP I dunno, you should collect some empirical data and report your findings.
@Simon A world where I'm back into the World rankings for my age/belt in 3 divisions, and need to up my game before June.
@JohnP so I probably shouldn't mention bacon, beer, scotch, ham, kebabs and so on?
or intentionally dining out in restaurants that are uphill so you can roll back home once you ate all you could there?
Oh god yes bacon! That never goes away. Beer only on the weekend, I don't do hard liquor, ham is ok, as are kebabs. Mostly jsut really starchy/fried/fatty is off the table.
Speaking of, it's lunchtime. bbl.
18:16
@DavidFreitag Jesus came again already?
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@RoraΖ Yeah like three times, bro.
@JohnP Lunch time? It's 2pm!
@DavidFreitag Damn, can't believe I missed it twice. That's Haley's Comet type shit.
18:39
@RoraΖ There's a Mary Magdelane joke in there somewhere.
18:50
@DavidFreitag honestly, I had never heard of this franchise. Guessing that's because it is like GTA and as it sucked in every way I can think of I probably assumed this would be as bad
@RoryAlsop Nonono, JC was fantastic!
The entire point of JC is to cause havoc and destroy things!
Explosions purely for the fun of it!
And maaaaaaaan is that game pretty :U
That I can definitely get on board with
I can't vouch for the original JC game, but I have JC2 on steam and I think I played like 200 hours of that game
You can ride a supersonic jet fighter like a surfboard! :O
Anyway, I can admit that the gunplay is kinda crap, and the vehicle controls could be better, and the storyline is pretty meh, but it's a really fun game.

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